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Fast Dual Charger?

I am looking for a nice quality dual port charger to charge both my Motorola Moto X 2nd Gen and my Nexus 7 Tablet. Recently my Nexus 7 charger took a dump and doesn't seem to be working properly, with that in mind I'd like to upgrade to a "high mAh" charger.
It is my understanding that you can have a 5mAh charger and if you phone only charges at 1mAh it will just use that much amperes, in essence wont harm or help anything. However since my Tablet charger is 2.1A (I believe) I'd need something big enough for that. Obviously there are a slew of these chargers on ebay and most of them from china with little to no quality in their build.
Can anyone recommend a good charger that will charge two devices quickly? Higher the Amps the better (incase of future devices)
P.S. I am aware of the "Turbo Charger" for my Moto X, but I'm looking for a "daily driver" charger right now.

Car Turbo Charger

Does anybody know of a car charger that does turbo charge the Moto Z? Apparently Motorola/Lenovo doesn't offer one and a third party QuickCharge 3.0 I tried failed...
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I got this one :Nekteck 5.4A USB-C Car Charger from Amazon for 15$ and it does turbo charge my phone .

I don't believe that the Z Force is set up for Qualcomm Quick Charge. And while it doesn't Turbo charge, I use the Verizon brand rapid USB-C car charger. I've also read that we have to be careful with what charging cables we use with our Z Force phones.
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zaki67 said:
I got this one :Nekteck 5.4A USB-C Car Charger from Amazon for 15$ and it does turbo charge my phone .
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Thank you, I will try that one then ?.
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karlmf said:
I don't believe that the Z Force is set up for Qualcomm Quick Charge. And while it doesn't Turbo charge, I use the Verizon brand rapid USB-C car charger. I've also read that we have to be careful with what charging cables we use with our Z Force phones.
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At least Motorola claims it supports QuickCharge if I'm not mistaken. Apparently, though, it also has additional requirements for turbo charging to kick in... I looked at the Verizon charger, too, but a) there's not much info on its website, b) calling Verizon didn't help - they don't have a clue, and c) there is some comment / review saying that it "burned out" some user's battery (which is of course unconfirmed to be related to this charger, may have been something else).
Anyways, given the utter lack of info and the suspicion of harming the battery, I stayed away from it... not to mention the ridiculous $40 price tag.
On an other note, though, Verizon has the original Motorola TurboCharger (wall charger) at a 50% discount.
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pb1379 said:
At least Motorola claims it supports QuickCharge if I'm not mistaken. Apparently, though, it also has additional requirements for turbo charging to kick in... I looked at the Verizon charger, too, but a) there's not much info on its website, b) calling Verizon didn't help - they don't have a clue, and c) there is some comment / review saying that it "burned out" some user's battery (which is of course unconfirmed to be related to this charger, may have been something else).
Anyways, given the utter lack of info and the suspicion of harming the battery, I stayed away from it... not to mention the ridiculous $40 price tag.
On an other note, though, Verizon has the original Motorola TurboCharger (wall charger) at a 50% discount.
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No USB-C device can support Quick Charge - it violates the USB-C spec. Any quality USB-C charger that is higher amp will TurboCharge a phone. Moto screwed up by using TurboCharging name with both QuickCharge and USB-C - they are different.

The Moto Z is absurdly picky when it comes to quick charge specs.
I have a Blitzwolf QC2.0 with a type C and a Type A connector in my wifes car, and it will ONLY enter quick charge if I use the Type C to Type C cable I bought from Blitzwolf.
It will not turbo charge if I use a high end Type A to Type C cable, but my wifes LG G5 will do so happily.
I also bought a QC3 compatible charger, with the cable integrated like the original charger, and this works too, and is faster than the QC2 charger.
Both are definitely charging at more than 10 watts, the maximum for 5V 2A mode chargers.
And in fact, using a Non-QC 5V 3A charger, caused my cable to melt, and start to glow.
Incredibly my phone charging port survived.
Blitzwolf may very well be the only brand that works fully, as I just bought a Chuwi QC3 power bank, and it will refuse to quick charge my phone.
But works on some others.
And on another note, I used the Type C to Type C in a modern laptop a while back, and when I plugged it in, my phone displayed the message about receiving quick charge.
If I'm not mistaken, the Type C spec allows quick charging, but only if you use C to C, with the extra pins it's able to keep better track of the charging process I guess.

Shadowdancer123 said:
The Moto Z is absurdly picky when it comes to quick charge specs.
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And on another note, I used the Type C to Type C in a modern laptop a while back, and when I plugged it in, my phone displayed the message about receiving quick charge.
If I'm not mistaken, the Type C spec allows quick charging, but only if you use C to C, with the extra pins it's able to keep better track of the charging process I guess.
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Yes, it seems all matter of cables...!
I have a Blitzwolf QC3.0 too BUT I'm able to obtain "Turbocharge" indication only using a *single* micro USB to type C adaptor. This with every cable and every charger. Even when connected to a USB port!
If I use every other cable or similar adaptors (I've tested many...), the "Turbocharge" never shows (except original charger obviously...).
With Blitzwolf QC3 and this cable/adaptor I got a full charge from less than 5% in about 70-75 min... during the charge cable was OK, while the adaptor (with metallic/aluminium exterior) was quite warm but never really hot in dangerous way...

Here's more information than any of you probably care about, but I'm tired of seeing the same misinformation and confusion being thrown around (not just in the Moto Z forum, but in a bunch of others, too).
chromedome00 said:
No USB-C device can support Quick Charge - it violates the USB-C spec.
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That's not true. Case in point: my ZTE Axon 7 and LeEco S3 both use QC 3.0 and both are USB-C. The common confusion comes from using "USB-C" (a connector) and "Type-C" (interchangeably used to refer to the connector and the power specification) incorrectly. Clarification below.
chromedome00 said:
Any quality USB-C charger that is higher amp will TurboCharge a phone. Moto screwed up by using TurboCharging name with both QuickCharge and USB-C - they are different.
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This is mostly true. "TurboPower" is the stupid name Moto uses to refer to the Type-C power specification. Actually, I'm being unfair: it's confusing that they called it "Type-C" in the first place and Moto took the opportunity to market the spec as their own thing.
Before going any further, let's use a common analogy to make the relationship between, wattage, voltage, and amperage easier to understand in broad terms. Wattage is the amount of water going through a pipe. Voltage is how fast that water is moving and amperage is the size of the pipe. 15W is 15W, but you can get there by having a tiny pipe (1A) with water moving really fast through it (15V) or a really big pipe (3A) with water going more slowly through it (5V). They both move the same amount of power, but in different ways. Got it? Good.
Anyway, Type-C has a fixed voltage and maxes out at 15W ([email protected]). Quick Charge 1.0 does only 10W ([email protected]), 2.0 does 18W (5/9/12V @ 3.6/2/1.5A respectively), and 3.0 does 18W with varying voltage (3.6-20V) and amperage (5-0.9A) to match. That is the advantage of QC over Type-C: a higher voltage can (usually) be run through those old and cheap USB cables without issue since voltage tolerance is determined largely by the phone and the charger. As long as the amperage doesn't exceed the capacity (gauge) of the wire, higher voltage is fine.
Amperage, though, that's what causes non-compliant or crappy cables to burn up. Really old or especially cheap cables can handle 1A max (heck, if they were built to spec, only 500mA for USB 2.0), but most cables of reasonable quality can handle 2A without much issue. They tend to use lower gauge (thicker) wires and should *not* feel warm at all when using it to charge. Some manufacturers (Samsung, for example) used to disable data on their USB cables and use it for additional amperage capacity, which is why you would occasionally buy a phone with a cable that wouldn't work for data transfer in the computer but would charge your phone just fine.
Moving on. Technically, QC 1.0 and QC 3.0 do not violate the Type-C power spec. QC 1.0 because it can't exceed it and QC 3.0 because it's variable. That said, QC 3.0 (and possibly QC 1.0, I don't know) require protocol negotiation; if that negotiation is lacking (in the case of the Moto Z), it's going to default to a "safe" charging rate (around 5W, plus or minus some). Your QC 2.0 does technically violate the Type-C spec because its voltage and amperage rates are fixed: you can get 5V at up to 3.6A. The "up to" bit is the important part. I have seen in various threads folks claiming their non-QC 3.0 phones will work with QC 2.0 chargers just fine and it's probably because the amperage tolerance is there (ie. it will actually allow 3.6A, violating spec) or it gets throttled (ie. sticks to 3A, keeping to spec).
Shadowdancer123 said:
The Moto Z is absurdly picky when it comes to quick charge specs.
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And in fact, using a Non-QC 5V 3A charger, caused my cable to melt, and start to glow.
Incredibly my phone charging port survived.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Type C spec allows quick charging, but only if you use C to C, with the extra pins it's able to keep better track of the charging process I guess.
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All Type-C and USB-PD compliant devices are picky about the charge specs, not just the Moto Z. Or, at least, they're supposed to be for the reasons outlined above (namely the amperage). QC devices are less picky because it frequently uses higher voltage, which we established above as being much more tolerable for cables of varying quality.
Your cable melting and glowing is to be expected when you push 3A through a cable that likely can't handle more than 2A or so. Your phone charging port survived because it's designed to handle 3A.
I'm not entirely sure about which pins do what on a USB-C connector, but you're right in the C-to-C is the only connection that (should, according to spec) support Type-C and USB-PD (Power Delivery). The rate is negotiated via the USB Power Delivery 2.0 "power rules", which define four acceptable voltages (5/9/15/20) and variable amperage (0.1-5) to obtain charge rates as low as 0.5W and as high as 100W. "Type-C" is part of the Power Delivery spec, but is usually limited to only the 5V rule. I'm fairly certain the Moto Z does not support anything past the first level power rule, which is why you likely won't find the Moto Z to charge significantly faster with the TurboPower 30 included with the Moto Z Force than it does with its original TurboPower 15 charger. No clue as to whether that's a hardware or software limitation.

Also, to answer the OP's original question: any reputable (Anker, Aukey, Choetech, Belkin, etc) that uses an actual USB-C port will work. Most (if not all) dual port units will have a USB-C port that will work with the Moto Z (or any other Type-C/USB-PD device) and a QC 3.0 compatible "traditional" USB-A port. I have yet to find one that includes two USB-C ports and I really hate the ones with integrated cables.
My personal favorite is the Choetech for $16 since its QC 3.0 USB-A port is reversible: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AAGH8OY/
This Aukey is cheaper ($15) and would be fine: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01E764DXM/
Here's a Tronsmart for $16, as well: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B018K7LHBU/
Even this $10 Vinsic should be okay: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B014F2NQ36/
Just for funsies, here's a spreadsheet of the Benson Leung cable and charger tests: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
Interestingly, the $10 Vinsic is on his list of approved. So there. Go buy a $10 car charger and be happy.

I have the aukey 6 port usb charging station with two QC 3.0 ports, I am using high quality braided usb 3.0 to type c cables - I have tested both QC 3.0 ports and the other ports (using ampere) - Every port lists charging as "normal" - QC port 1 shows a min of 640mA and a max of 1040mA. QC Port 2 shows - min of 530 mA and a max of 980 mA. Regular ports 3-6 all show a min of 270mA and max of 870 mA. Not one port indicated it was ever turbo or fast charging. This same charger does fast charge my lg G5 and Samsung S7 Edge.

this one is verified to give the "TurboPower connected" message when plugged in.
From what I have read, both QC 2.0 and 3.0 doesn't turbo charge moto phones. Qualcomms QC charging works by increasing the voltage and decreasing the amps. So you can have 12v and 2amp for a total of 24 watts, but that won't turbo charge the moto z. Moto works on 5 volts but needs at least 3 amps. It is the amps that seem to engage the Motos into turbo charge mode, and they have to be at least 3 amps.
This Belkin model, for example, is what Benson Leung uses for his pixel xl. Its one of the few on Amazon that is USB-IF certified for 5v 3amp.

rczrider said:
Here's more information than any of you probably care about, but I'm tired of seeing the same misinformation and confusion being thrown around (not just in the Moto Z forum, but in a bunch of others, too).
That's not true. Case in point: my ZTE Axon 7 and LeEco S3 both use QC 3.0 and both are USB-C. The common confusion comes from using "USB-C" (a connector) and "Type-C" (interchangeably used to refer to the connector and the power specification) incorrectly. Clarification below.
Moving on. Technically, QC 1.0 and QC 3.0 do not violate the Type-C power spec. QC 1.0 because it can't exceed it and QC 3.0 because it's variable. That said, QC 3.0 (and possibly QC 1.0, I don't know) require protocol negotiation; if that negotiation is lacking (in the case of the Moto Z), it's going to default to a "safe" charging rate (around 5W, plus or minus some). Your QC 2.0 does technically violate the Type-C spec because its voltage and amperage rates are fixed: you can get 5V at up to 3.6A. The "up to" bit is the important part. I have seen in various threads folks claiming their non-QC 3.0 phones will work with QC 2.0 chargers just fine and it's probably because the amperage tolerance is there (ie. it will actually allow 3.6A, violating spec) or it gets throttled (ie. sticks to 3A, keeping to spec).
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I think you are propagating mis-information. If you want to catch up on why QC 2.0/3.0 violate the USB-C spec, here it is from the horses mouth:
https://plus.google.com/+BensonLeung/posts/cEvVQLXhyRX
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...omm-quick-charge-with-android-incompatibility
Interestingly Qualcomm has QC 4.0 now and they call out integration with USB-C and USB-PD https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...livers-20-faster-charging-improved-efficiency
"Quick Charge 4 also integrates USB Type-C and USB-PD support, making the industry’s most popular battery charging solution available on the widest variety of cables and adapters."
USB-C has 24 pins while standard USB-A has 4. Quick Charge chargers (2.0/3.0) only have the 4 pins of USB-A - so if it can't use the data lines, then it can't quick charge via USB-C. Since there are only 4 outputs, plugging a USB-C cable into a QC 2.0/3.0 charger will not change anything. Still only 4 wires originating from the charger. The data lines are not allowed to be used for voltage, so your QC charger will only supply a fixed 5V to the phone. So no Quick Charge.

If QC3 supports [email protected] couldn't it supply power at [email protected] to turbocharge?
Looking for a solution to turbocharge my Moto Z and support QC3 for LG G5/Samsung S7.

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zaki67 said:
I got this one :Nekteck 5.4A USB-C Car Charger from Amazon for 15$ and it does turbo charge my phone .
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Just ordered one of these. This one specifically
Hopefully it'll work out well

This one works fine.
https://store.google.com/product/belkin_15w_usb_c_car_charger
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swejuggalo said:
This one works fine.
https://store.google.com/product/belkin_15w_usb_c_car_charger
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YES! I can confirm it!

QuickCharge 3.0, across 6 chargers, is somehow not working on my V20

I picked up a T-Mobile V20 2 days ago. Rooted it the same night, and tested out a few chargers I had laying around to make sure the ones I had, along with cables, worked properly after having most everything not work properly with my Pixel XL.
The stock charger would not charge my phone at more than 3 watts (but I never touched the stock charger until I started noticing the issue).
A Samsung QC charger, with any cable, would not charge my phone more than 9 watts.
An Anker PowerPort+ 1, Type C, QC 3.0 charger, with any cable (to include Anker cables and the Pixel XL OEM cable), will not charge over 12 watts.
Absolutely NONE of my QC 3.0 car chargers register as "fast charging" - these include an iVoler Type C and USB A, Anker USB A, Tronsmart Type C, with various cables. A standard cabled Type C charger from i-Orange does not say "fast charging," but seems to be charging at 5V/3A as it is MUCH faster than all the others.
The ONLY charger that is fast charging my phone is the Pixel XL OEM charger. Measured at the wall, it has peaked at 19.2 watts.
I'm really confused. I don't know if my QC 3.0 has been defective since I got the phone, or if plugging my phone into the USB PD Pixel XL charger somehow screwed things up...
Does anyone have any ideas here?

All my old QC chargers work and I'm currently using the note 7 oem one atm as it does not get as hot (charger not phone) as the LG oem one under load. What does the app ampere say your getting?

It takes a while, try a very low battery and give it 10 minutes or more screen off, must be cool too

I got an existing aukey qc 2.0 fast charging fine while using a Samsung adaptive fast charger also fine, I am waiting for my qc 3.0 aukey one to be arrived possibly tomorrow to see if I could charge faster and lower temperature than my existing ones, I cannot check the watts though

My phone is either defective (not surprising given LG's GARBAGE quality control) or the software has somehow screwed up from root, etc. (highly unlikely as I am the only one with an issue).
With that said, I made an interesting discovery. My phone, using USB Power Delivery, charges much faster than my girlfriend's, using QuickCharge 2.0 or 3.0. I tested this 2 times from 5% battery on both phones. I tested this with a QC 3.0 car charger and the OEM QC 2.0 charger. The difference is substantial... first test was about 40 minutes. My phone was near 80%, hers was at 55%. The 2nd test was only 15 minutes. Mine was near 40%, hers only 27%.
reaverclan said:
All my old QC chargers work and I'm currently using the note 7 oem one atm as it does not get as hot (charger not phone) as the LG oem one under load. What does the app ampere say your getting?
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Don't remember what Ampere says, but it was <500mA. Also, I used a USB current meter. It hovered around 5V/0.5A no matter what charger I used. I don't have a Type C/Power Delivery current meter, so I couldn't test those chargers... but USB PD is CLEARLY working very well on the V20. Much better than QC.
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It takes a while, try a very low battery and give it 10 minutes or more screen off, must be cool too
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It does not take awhile - takes <5 seconds to begin the QuickCharge process. Phone does not need a very low battery - will show fast charging regardless of the %. Does not need to be cool - fast charging is shown when the QC handshake occurs - not based on actual charging current. My girlfriend also has a V20. Every charger I tested with mine (which did not work), successfully QuickCharges hers.

Are you you using 56 k resistor cables?plus being rooted a kernel app would have a section to disable fast charge or enable it. Most devs disables by default. So if using custom kernel something to look in to. As I doubt there is anything wrong with your phone.
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Just got the aukey PA-T15 qc 3.0 seems fast charging fine though I have no time for a 0% to 100% test yet

Dark Jedi said:
Are you you using 56 k resistor cables?plus being rooted a kernel app would have a section to disable fast charge or enable it. Most devs disables by default. So if using custom kernel something to look in to. As I doubt there is anything wrong with your phone.
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All of my cables are good. No custom kernel, and I've never seen a dev disable fast charging by default... that would be very unpopular.
Anyway, it seems that LG's recent phones, to include the G5 and V20, are actually supporting both QC 3.0 and USB PD. This is also probably why QC 3.0 chargers that use Type C do not work (the Anker PowerPort+ 1 in my case). On a C to C connection, with USB PD present, USB PD will take precedence over QC 3.0 (since QC 3.0 is illegal with C to C anyway). But that still doesn't explain why my phone doesn't QC via USB A to C... so I'll chalk it up to LG's garbage quality control.
I'm glad it worked out this way. USB PD charges my phone WAY faster than QC 3.0 charges my girlfriend's V20. So I would suggest you all dump QC 3.0 (because it's non-compliant to anyway) and grab USB PD equipment since it's the way of the future anyway.

I'm starting to think that there's something wrong with the way V20 handles QC 3.0. I'm in a somewhat similar situation with you, tested three different QC 3.0 using almost 10 different A->C cable (including the OEM cable) and none of them would deliver QC 3.0 speed. (I just came in a from Axon 7 and the difference between charging speed is night and day).
Additionally, I wish there's an app to properly identify what's going on during charging.
Using the built-in battery test from Service mode (see screenshot), it always says that I'm on QC 2.0 whenever I'm charging using QC 3.0 chargers.

My unit (LG-H990DS) is charging very quick though.
Using stock charger & cable, charging time is very consistent from 0 to 100%. 95 mins is all it takes.

yluxion said:
My unit (LG-H990DS) is charging very quick though.
Using stock charger & cable, charging time is very consistent from 0 to 100%. 95 mins is all it takes.
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The stock charger that LG sent with the V20 is actually a QC2.0 unit.
and with QC3.0, it'll take you less than an hour to fully charge.

baymon said:
The stock charger that LG sent with the V20 is actually a QC2.0 unit.
and with QC3.0, it'll take you less than an hour to fully charge.
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Original Charger
Aukey QC3.0 Charger
Both results are similar.
So now LG V20 under utilise the Aukey QC3.0?

yluxion said:
Original Charger
Aukey QC3.0 Charger
Both results are similar.
So now LG V20 under utilise the Aukey QC3.0?
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I can't say for sure, because I have no way to get a baseline on how fast a QC 3.0 charger charge at the correct QC3.0 rate on the V20....
At least according to the battery test from the service mode menu, none of my QC3.0 chargers are being recognized as QC3....and it definitely doesn't charge as fast as 3.0 based on my previous experience with axon 7.
on The Axon 7, I can still be playing Mobius FF (which is very battery intensive) and still charging up at about 1% per minute.

I'm pretty sure our phone doesn't have QC3 as I just mentioned in another thread. I'm like.. 97% sure? I remember reading early on that it was QC2, and a blend of LG that got it a little more robust than that. I'm not sure all of what's required for QC3 to work, obviously the 820 SOC supports it, but, not sure why I read that we don't have QC3.,

dbornack said:
I'm pretty sure our phone doesn't have QC3 as I just mentioned in another thread. I'm like.. 97% sure? I remember reading early on that it was QC2, and a blend of LG that got it a little more robust than that. I'm not sure all of what's required for QC3 to work, obviously the 820 SOC supports it, but, not sure why I read that we don't have QC3.,
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Yeah, I'm starting to believe that's the case now. I just updated the thread btway, now they're saying that 3.0 isn't enabled by LG.
Not sure this is the case of Tmo employee not knowing their sh*t or what.

baymon said:
Yeah, I'm starting to believe that's the case now. I just updated the thread btway, now they're saying that 3.0 isn't enabled by LG.
Not sure this is the case of Tmo employee not knowing their sh*t or what.
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FWIW, I have a couple of Aukey chargers. One is QC2, and one is QC3. They both "fast-charge" my phone, but I don't think I get the fastest charge on anything but the LG adapter. Usually it's fast enough for me, but I guess if I was 10-15% left, and I needed 100% in less than an hour, it might not happen.

I just picked up a US996 (Unlocked V20)... and found this site while trying to make a decision on buying new chargers, cables, etc.
I opened a chat with LG to ask them if the V20 supports USB-PD... and I got this response:
Merwin
Not that we can verify, Ryan we because we have not tested it. I highly suggest you to use the OEM charger of the V20.
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So... no help from Merwin @ LG. It seems they're not allowed to comment on it, and can only recommend the OEM charger. I was unaware that it was only QC2.0, according to the testing above.
Has anyone done more testing since? Can I buy a USB-PD charger and C-to-C cable? Should I avoid QC3.0?
Thanks

I'm interested in this as well having bought 2 QC3 chargers and neither charge my phone as fast as QC3 advertises.
I have used my brothers stock Nexus 6p charger from Google and the times are about equal to my QC3 chargers I bought

I'm using a Samsung QC 2.0 charger for mine:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-EP-TA20JWE-Travel-Charger-Devices/dp/B00TEUVEIO
I use it because I lost the LG one. It does quick charge but I can't measure the rate in the service menu. It just stays blank.

This is real easy, it happens with qc 3 on my v20 and s8+
The phone does not quick charge when the battery is warm or when the screen is on. Its really that simple. You can get faster charge times using a qc 2.0 charger or a dumb 18 watt adapter. Neither one is as picky about sending power to a warm battery, but your batteries life will be shorter than it was designed to be.
QC 3 will charge a cold empty battery faster, but in real life, it will preserve your battery over fast charging the phone.

Does the moto G5 supports the Turbo Power 15W charger?

An answer in Lenovo's support forums says the G5 does not support Turbo Power, but it comes with a 10W rapid charger. The problem that here in Brazil not even this 10w charger gets shlpped with the phone, neither can I find it for sale, so I'm thinking about getting a 15W Turbo Power charger, does anyone knows if it'll charge the G5 (25W and above are reportedly not working with the G5)

It won't work, But you'll get fast charge tho (NOT TurboCharge, which is even faster. Just standart fast charge)

Randonio said:
It won't work, But you'll get fast charge tho (NOT TurboCharge, which is even faster. Just standart fast charge)
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Will fast charge charpe it faster than a 5V-2A charger?

freeZbies said:
Will fast charge charpe it faster than a 5V-2A charger?
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Maybe? I'll test it, and say the results

Randonio said:
Maybe? I'll test it, and say the results
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Ok, if you do it, that'll hilp a lot, since moto G5 came with this standard 2A charges.

I bought my Moto G5 in Brazil near the launch date, it did come with the 10 W charger (5V-2A, W = V x A, do the math). As far as I know, Snapdragon 430 support Quick Charge 3.0. I bought a ROCK charger with Quick Charge 3.0, just waiting for it to arrive from Aliexpress, should work just fine.

Sephirothrx7 said:
I bought my Moto G5 in Brazil near the launch date, it did come with the 10 W charger (5V-2A, W = V x A, do the math). As far as I know, Snapdragon 430 support Quick Charge 3.0. I bought a ROCK charger with Quick Charge 3.0, just waiting for it to arrive from Aliexpress, should work just fine.
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Well, I didn't know that this would result in 10W. Anyways, as far as I know the moto G5 doesn't support Turbo/Quick charge, despite using the Snapdragon 430. I say thay because none of the TurboPower chargers in Motorola's website cites the G5 as supported (only G5+/G5S), in addition, I read many reports in Lenovo's official forum repporting it doesn't support Quick/Turbo Charge, like here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...g-with-Qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0/td-p/3828209
In other words, a 15W charger is not supposed to provide great advantages over the regular charger that came with it.
Anyways, thanks for showing me a 5v-2a equals 10w, I googled and confirmed it.

freeZbies said:
Well, I didn't know that this would result in 10W. Anyways, as far as I know the moto G5 doesn't support Turbo/Quick charge, despite using the Snapdragon 430. I say thay because none of the TurboPower chargers in Motorola's website cites the G5 as supported (only G5+/G5S), in addition, I read many reports in Lenovo's official forum repporting it doesn't support Quick/Turbo Charge, like here: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G...g-with-Qualcomm-quick-charge-3-0/td-p/3828209
In other words, a 15W charger is not supposed to provide great advantages over the regular charger that came with it.
Anyways, thanks for showing me a 5v-2a equals 10w, I googled and confirmed it.
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You are welcome.
To be honest I have been using the Quick Charger but can confirm if it's working or not. I usually just plug the phone before going to sleep, when I wake up it's already 100% . I will search if there's anything available to detect if it's using the quick charge or not.

Did it work?

I'm using my wife's charger from her G4+ and it seems not boost the charger at all. It takes the same time with my own charger. Normally, batteries got a regulator that protect the battery from being overpowered and, maybe, exploded. So, if it was setted to 2A max it won't work anyway. Also, the official charger detects, through USB interface, if the device support Boosted Charging before sending 3A. If you wanna save your money, my advice is don't buy it.

Moto G5 doesn't support Qualcomm 2.0 or 3.0 which charge at 9V or 12V. My original charger used to charge at 5.2V and up to 1.5A, but it doesn't anymore, now doesn't go over 5.0V. Very difficult to charge when powered on when normal charger only manages about 0.6A . Also have problem with portable battery packs, best option is to connect external battery when full, and it just about stops internal battery falling. Maybe the connector wearing out, have tried different cables....

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Moto G5 doesn't support Qualcomm 2.0 or 3.0 which charge at 9V or 12V. My original charger used to charge at 5.2V and up to 1.5A, but it doesn't anymore, now doesn't go over 5.0V. Very difficult to charge when powered on when normal charger only manages about 0.6A . Also have problem with portable battery packs, best option is to connect external battery when full, and it just about stops internal battery falling. Maybe the connector wearing out, have tried different cables....
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Sometimes it can be as simple as a tiny piece of pocket lint/crud in the USB charging port. You can buy cans of compressed air to blow them out same as used on Camera lens or check with magnifying glass and then a toothpick with care to clean anything found out.
HTH

Blast from past on old phone! The usb port eventually failed completely, fortunately the little board is easy to replace, but the replacement board only lasted a few months. I still have the phone as a spare and charge the removable battery out of the phone.

mstombs said:
Blast from past on old phone! The usb port eventually failed completely, fortunately the little board is easy to replace, but the replacement board only lasted a few months. I still have the phone as a spare and charge the removable battery out of the phone.
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Sorry about that
But glad you still have the phone

Be careful with Huawei Power adapter:

Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!

Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?

CorruptedSanity said:
Good catch!
Thanks for sharing.
I thought charges and/or device ports had a regulator to control input voltage?
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Most electronics with a USB port will only be rated for say 5v, or maybe 6v to allow for naughty USB power supplies. 9v is nearly double 5v, and on sensitive low-tech chargers, like resistive ones that charge 18650 or whatever, you could expose the battery to a much higher voltage than what it should have, which could cause an explosion or whatever. I used a fan since it should be able to handle the extra voltage quite happily.

What do you mean fan?
Used a fan to cool what?

Michaelflat1 said:
Basically, when the charger is unplugged, the adapter runs in 5V mode, which is safe and good. But when the tablet is connected, then it is upgraded to 9V mode. any USB devices connected with a splitter on the charger wire will receive 9V also! This near doubling of voltage could cause devices to be fried, so make sure your Huawei power adapter isn't powering any hubs!!
YouTube demo video coming soon, overvolting a fan!
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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.

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There is not problem at all. Qualcomm charge technology and USB 3.1 do the same. The charger and the device negotiate what voltage they want to send the same power but less current (more efficient). You are not supposed to o what you did, it your fault and not from Huawei.
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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).

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what I was getting at is that if you were to use a splitter, like I did, then be careful, as the voltage might raise. This is not a concern most of the time, but it's good to just be careful.
My OnePlus 5T and it's dash charging only works when these 3 conditions are satisfied:
Dash charger
Stock OnePlus lead
Nothing else plugged in
otherwise it will default down to normal. It's a shame that this didn't happen on the Huawei charger, but hopefully this means that it will be easier for implementation for powerbanks, I can't find any dash charge power banks. And also apparently Huawei phones usually play nice with other chargers. (USB-C power delivery I'm not sure on this device).
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I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277

alvinlwh said:
I am just annoyed that Huawei do not use QC or USB-PD standards and I must use their charge to charge fast. I do not mind the 9v as my QC devices charges fast on the Huawei charger but not the other way round, forcing me to either change all my chargers or carry an extra charger.
Not sure if you are talking about FCP for in or out of powerbank, I have a Tronsmart powerbank that supports both QC3 and FCP out. It also supports QC in, which means it MAY charge faster with the Huawei's stock charger. I had not tested it that way yet but I think it should as the Huawei charger charges my other QC devices at QC speed.
Tronsmart Presto Power bank:
https://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto-10000mah-quick-charge-3-0-power-bank
Note that their own specifications regarding the input is incorrect, this picture shows the actual specifications behind the device, which shows it can take [email protected] in.
https://the-gadgeteer.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/tronsmart-presto-3.jpg
Also refer to my thread from a while back discussing FCP and QC.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mediapad-m5/help/m5-quick-charge-t3822277
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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).

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I know your trouble, I have a OP5t, and that charges at 7.5W from my Huawei charger, when it can charge at 20W using dash charger, my mediapad charges at 10W from the dash charger, out of 18w capability. I do look silly carrying round two chargers with the same plug on them!!
Yeah no dash charger power bank, at least there is a Huawei FCP one like you said, I might get that as my next one, but I've got a lovely EC technologies powerbank, and that only does 10W no matter what, shame really as it is 82whr (massive!).
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Luckily (for me at least!), I do not normally carry my M5 around and therefore do not need quick charge on it. Even if taken on holiday, it can charge overnight in the hotel. However this put me off Huawei (and OnePlue, Oppo and any other brands that do not use QC standards) for my future purchase.

Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?

StephenMSmith said:
Wow, I didn't realize how bad this bites. MediaPad was my first QC3 device. Used it's charger in my bedroom. Then got a LG v35 QC3 phone last week to replace old Nexus 6P (USB C-PD). So excited to see the Huawei charger fast-charging both devices. So irritating to now realize that the LG QC3 charger won't fast charge the M5!
And Huawei is using a proprietary QC3 charging mechanism? ie. are there any compatible chargers on Amazon or only the charger from Huawei will fast charge the M5?
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Sorry, Huawei does not use QC standards but their own FCP/SCP instead. QC chargers will not fast charge Huawei gear but Huawei charger MAY charge QC gear fast.

So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?

StephenMSmith said:
So if I plug my M5 into a standard QC3.0 charger (9v I think), does it at least charge somewhat faster than a standard, non-QC charger? I would assume so. And are they're any 3rd party fasxt chargers compatible w/Huawei's dumbarse proprietary QC3 charging?
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No it doesn't, as confirmed by a V/A USB meter. It will only top out at 5V/2A.
I repeat again, Huawei does NOT use QC3 technology, but FCP/SCP technology. If you are looking for a charger that can do both QC and FCP from the same socket, read through the tread again as I had already posted a brand and model that had been tested and confirmed to do both.

Ah, sorry, me dumb and had in my head that M5 was QC3. Now I get it -- FCP, not same as QC3. OK, I see your link and several other chargers compatible w/QC3 and FCP. Thanks!

Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?

sz.hatef said:
Hi,
I have a ThinkPad E580 which comes along with a charger Type-C, on the charger has been written : OUTPUT: 20V-3.25A / 15V-3A / 9V-2A / 5V-2A
Is it safe to try charge my MediaPad M5 by this charger?
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I had used USB PD adaptors on the M5 before and it charges fine, but not quickly.

My Pad (M5 10.8 WiFi) charges via USB PD with 18 Watts using the 9 Volt Profile. What doesn't work is Quick Charge. Power delivery works fine

Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.

reubenray said:
Is there anything special about the actual Huawei furnished cable? I need a longer one than what was furnished.
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Nothing whatsoever
But get a good one that supports high wattage.
Some cables only transmit 5 watts
Meaning 5v and 1 amp
Technology from 2005