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G930F Exynos/herolte: LinOS 14.1 microG ROM or another 8/9 based ROM?

I have no experience with this device and have it not here to test. Want to maybe install a Custom ROM for a friend to get away from a "destroyed" Stock. So I need to be sure if I want to do that, since I can not test around with the device.
My main question is if I should go with lineage-14.1-20190302-microG-herolte.zip (camera performance?) or because of better camera performance, stability, speed and long autonomy go with another ROM based on 8/9 (maybe MicroG also possible to install there)?
Bluetooth support/stability is certainly important (car, home stereo) as well as usage of apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram and Signal. For E-Mail, Calendar, Addresses I think we could switch to Google Alternatives as well as as to FOSS/F-Droid Alternatives for others. Not sure if the friend needs Google Maps - would install OSMAnd.
Any experience and advise welcome. Thanks a lot.

ChriMo said:
I have no experience with this device and have it not here to test. Want to maybe install a Custom ROM for a friend to get away from a "destroyed" Stock. So I need to be sure if I want to do that, since I can not test around with the device.
My main question is if I should go with lineage-14.1-20190302-microG-herolte.zip (camera performance?) or because of better camera performance, stability, speed and long autonomy go with another ROM based on 8/9 (maybe MicroG also possible to install there)?
Bluetooth support/stability is certainly important (car, home stereo) as well as usage of apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Instagram and Signal. For E-Mail, Calendar, Addresses I think we could switch to Google Alternatives as well as as to FOSS/F-Droid Alternatives for others. Not sure if the friend needs Google Maps - would install OSMAnd.
Any experience and advise welcome. Thanks a lot.
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I can tell you from my own experience it is much faster with lineage rom and you will have much more storage and ram avaible than the stock rom. By the way if you decide to install lineage knox will not work anymore and microg would be possible to install

It may also be worth considering the unofficial ports in these forums, they're built off the LOS nightly releases but given more special attention.

Beanvee7 said:
It may also be worth considering the unofficial ports in these forums, they're built off the LOS nightly releases but given more special attention.
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Ok, but since it is not my device (can not test ROMs) and I seek support-free daily driving I'm not ready to take the risk of unofficial ports as well as they might work, unless experienced users comment here comparing current well supported ports directly to official LinOS 14.1 (microG) builds. As far as I can see the only official Pie 9.0 ROM is Resurrection Remix v7.0 from 20190310; but MicroG is not supported and deodexing services.jar for NanoDroid MicroG install seems too complex for this case. If it would be my device I would try, no problem then.

ChriMo said:
Ok, but since it is not my device (can not test ROMs) and I seek support-free daily driving I'm not ready to take the risk of unofficial ports as well as they might work, unless experienced users comment here comparing current well supported ports directly to official LinOS 14.1 (microG) builds. As far as I can see the only official Pie 9.0 ROM is Resurrection Remix v7.0 from 20190310; but MicroG is not supported and deodexing services.jar for NanoDroid MicroG install seems too complex for this case. If it would be my device I would try, no problem then.
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That's part of why I was recommending unofficial, as far as I'm aware the official LineageOS builds are nightly, which is technically non-stable branch. Unofficial ports aim to be 'stable' quality.
Either way you probably won't get a support free OS out of LineageOS. There's always oddities, although usually small.

Beanvee7 said:
That's part of why I was recommending unofficial, as far as I'm aware the official LineageOS builds are nightly, which is technically non-stable branch. Unofficial ports aim to be 'stable' quality.
Either way you probably won't get a support free OS out of LineageOS. There's always oddities, although usually small.
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Thank you for explaining. Small oddities should be fine, at least I hope since I never used TouchWiz (immediately installed LinOS on a S5m) and do not know how easy it is for a Samsung user to come to the AOSP/LinOS World.
I probably would go with a PIE MicroG supporting ROM like AospExtended 6.3, HavocOS 2.2 or crDroid 5.1 if any of them would be official like Resurrection Remix v7. I know it is not a quality distinction per se, but without some experience it gives a little more confidence to at least currently have something cared for.
LineageOS 16 because necessity of deodexing etc. is not a candidate for me.

Hopefully in the next days I can try the migration. I will try in this order: HavocOS 2.2 (no experience) > AospExtended 6.3 > LineageOS 15.1 microG

less Google in a ROM

hello.
I have a question. which is the custom ROM with less from Google? Thanks

I too have been looking into this for some time. Easiest method is Lineage OS with MicroG. Other more difficult options are:
Calyx OS - Mostly uses OP3/3T and 7/7T/7T Pro
Graphene OS
/E/ Project - although personally I would avoid
CopperheadOS - uses Pixel devices only - for future reference
Some options for email would be Tutanota (free account with limited storage but has calender and contact and email sync), or (more popular but I have my reservations) ProtonMail.
Another option is keep the rom you are using and flash (after full backup and sd card back up just in case) nanodroid.zip - see below links for ideas:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/help/module-nanodroid-microg-pseudo-debloat-t3923478
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/guide-microg-deodex-signature-spoofing-t3862961

thanks again.
I just wanna ask you why will you avoid efoundation??
ozzmanj1 said:
I too have been looking into this for some time. Easiest method is Lineage OS with MicroG. Other more difficult options are:
Calyx OS - Mostly uses OP3/3T and 7/7T/7T Pro
Graphene OS
/E/ Project - although personally I would avoid
CopperheadOS - uses Pixel devices only - for future reference
Some options for email would be Tutanota (free account with limited storage but has calender and contact and email sync), or (more popular but I have my reservations) ProtonMail.
Another option is keep the rom you are using and flash (after full backup and sd card back up just in case) nanodroid.zip - see below links for ideas:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lenovo-p2/help/module-nanodroid-microg-pseudo-debloat-t3923478
or
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/guide-microg-deodex-signature-spoofing-t3862961
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[And I will like to know which ROM are for the ONEPLUS 6
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I just wanna ask you why will you avoid efoundation??[/QUOTE]

pekas said:
[And I will like to know which ROM are for the ONEPLUS 6
QUOTE=pekas;83557313]thanks again.
I just wanna ask you why will you avoid efoundation??
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I am not saying /e/ foundation is bad, but I have read multiple places that state they are basically copying and pasting code with out giving props to whoever they are pulling sources from. Plus the 6 and 6T roms are very old, only on A9.

In my opinion they are copyng and pasting cause everything is open source and mostly free, so.
i dont understand the only on A9?
I am not saying /e/ foundation is bad, but I have read multiple places that state they are basically copying and pasting code with out giving props to whoever they are pulling sources from. Plus the 6 and 6T roms are very old, only on A9.[/QUOTE]

AAAHHH
you mean that their ROM is in Pie.... OOOkay, but it works I guess
anyway. Another custom ROM with the less possible of Google. Syberian that was my favourite I just find out that has so many things from Google, and the Havoc that I love to, has camera and maybe some other things from Google
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pekas said:
In my opinion they are copyng and pasting cause everything is open source and mostly free, so.
i dont understand the only on A9?
I am not saying /e/ foundation is bad, but I have read multiple places that state they are basically copying and pasting code with out giving props to whoever they are pulling sources from. Plus the 6 and 6T roms are very old, only on A9.
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Just use any rom that has signature spoofing and doesn't include gapps and install NanoDroid Micro G and Fdroid and use Fdroid for your app store instead of Google. If whatever rom you prefer doesn't have sig spoofing there an xda thread that tells how to add it.
AOSiP, Bliss, Corvus, Omni Micro G all have spoofing just to name a few.. And there are more. NanoDroid xda thread link is in second post of this thread. You get a lot better battery life without Google's services and all running 24/7.

Stupid question about degoogling and custom roms.

I have one of these coming in the mail, I bought it used. I bought it only because it's the smallest modern device with lots of modding support, and I already downloaded the necessary tools to try out a bunch of roms. I am mostly interested in CalyxOS and Lineage, but I was wondering, is there some degoogled stock rom, or something else based on the stock Pixel rom with Google removed? Also what are some other custom roms without Google that I can try out? I'm mostly interested in something that is fast and customizable, I don't like Google but I also don't need something as hardened as GrapheneOS.

AFAIK there is no de-googled stock or even stock-ish ROM. The recent Google devices are extremely hard to de-google. Google integration goes into the software for the radios.
You can look at this thread on the e/os support forums for info on the Google Fi app still being in custom ROMs. (I'm tnadovada)
I tried Calyx and couldn't stand it. I don't need a ROM constantly nagging me about making plain phone calls being "insecure". I'm not going to pester my friends to use Signal.
You can try e/os it's based on Lineage, but uses the bliss launcher, which is very different from stock Android. You could put Trebuchet on top of e/os for a more stock-like experience.

The dev for SuperiorOS had compiled a version without gapps if I remember and was looking for someone to test it. You might get in touch with him.

i was using grapheneos on my pixel 3a, its good but i missed googles services so i went back to lineage with a few google services i use.
Its the camera i need most, you can use this to bypass (https://github.com/lukaspieper/Gcam-Services-Provider/) but i end up needing Lineage

Thank you for the replies. Eventually something happened with the shipping and I'm still waiting on my delicious 4A. I'll look into the roms you recommended and report back if needed. Thanks again.

Best Android 12 Rom So Far

Hi guys,
after almost 2 years with MIUI, Android 10 and Android 11 with MIUI 12.5, I would like to try a custom Android 12 rom before selling the device after the summer and buy something new.
As usual, there's a lot of custom roms. Even with A12. Onestly I would prefer to focus on a specific rom avoiding to try all the possibilities, this phone is my daily driver at the moment.
So I can see CrDroid, Evolution, Aosp, Voltage, Arrow... etc etc. Maybe seems a newbie question but which could be not a best rom but the first one to be tried ? Mainly I'm using the X3 to make call ( of course ), surf the web ( of course ), take photos to my children ( so the quality is very important for me ) and use it for GPS ( Mapy CZ and Here Maps ). With an eye on the battery duration...
Which A12 rom could be a good initial attempt ? Not so hard to be installed, I don't want to spend hours in bootloops or issues eheheh.

PYCON said:
Hi guys,
after almost 2 years with MIUI, Android 10 and Android 11 with MIUI 12.5, I would like to try a custom Android 12 rom before selling the device after the summer and buy something new.
As usual, there's a lot of custom roms. Even with A12. Onestly I would prefer to focus on a specific rom avoiding to try all the possibilities, this phone is my daily driver at the moment.
So I can see CrDroid, Evolution, Aosp, Voltage, Arrow... etc etc. Maybe seems a newbie question but which could be not a best rom but the first one to be tried ? Mainly I'm using the X3 to make call ( of course ), surf the web ( of course ), take photos to my children ( so the quality is very important for me ) and use it for GPS ( Mapy CZ and Here Maps ). With an eye on the battery duration...
Which A12 rom could be a good initial attempt ? Not so hard to be installed, I don't want to spend hours in bootloops or issues eheheh.
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If you want something stable with good long-time support, there's only Lineage, ArrowOS and maybe AospExtended
If you take lot of photos, ArrowOS offers you unlimited storage in Google Photos. In Lineage you can add that feature using a Magisk module.
I went with ArrowOS for the unlimited photo storage and a few pixel features.
I have found a phone app that automatically records all calls and a Gcam that makes great photos.
Everything is better than MIUI really

On other phones, I was happy using AOSP Ext and CrDroid. What about this last one? I can start trying Arrow maybe...

PYCON said:
On other phones, I was happy using AOSP Ext and CrDroid. What about this last one? I can start trying Arrow maybe...
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CrDroid should be good as well.
The developer made a break of 2 - 3 because he gave the phone to his wife but now it continues to receive regular updates.

Noter2017 said:
If you want something stable with good long-time support, there's only Lineage, ArrowOS and maybe AospExtended
If you take lot of photos, ArrowOS offers you unlimited storage in Google Photos. In Lineage you can add that feature using a Magisk module.
I went with ArrowOS for the unlimited photo storage and a few pixel features.
I have found a phone app that automatically records all calls and a Gcam that makes great photos.
Everything is better than MIUI really
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Could you provide the name of that phone app that records calls and gcam which makes great photos?
I am looking for exactly the same thing as the op. Right now on stock but it is so sloow

no1geek said:
Could you provide the name of that phone app that records calls and gcam which makes great photos?
I am looking for exactly the same thing as the op. Right now on stock but it is so sloow
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Here you go
Mod Edit: Link Removed
AOSP dialer has to be installed in Magisk.
GPay SQLiteFix is a fix to make Google pay work, has to be flashed in Magisk as well.
After installing Aspen (GCam mod) create a folder called ConfigsSettings8 on your phone's storage and paste the aspen2.xml there.
Start Aspen, double click on the black area of the screen and select aspen2.xml

@Noter2017: I'm curious here about your setup, so a few questions?
Is Bluetooth working alright with external audio devices?
Does GPS work reliably?
Is general wireless connectivity stable?
Can advanced reboot be enabled easily?
Is button navigation possible and can buttons be reversed?
I see you have Magisk, so no questions about rooting...

pnin said:
@Noter2017: I'm curious here about your setup, so a few questions?
Is Bluetooth working alright with external audio devices?
Does GPS work reliably?
Is general wireless connectivity stable?
Can advanced reboot be enabled easily?
Is button navigation possible and can buttons be reversed?
I see you have Magisk, so no questions about rooting...
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1) Bluetooth works fine for me. I use it with my Mi Band and a portable speaker. Personally I never had problems with Bluetooth, no matter which ROM I used.
2) I use GPS on a daily basis and it also works.
3) Works. With a speedtest get 400 Mbps on my 5 GHz WiFi at home (1 Gbps cable).
4) Can be enabled in Settings - Gestures
5) I use button navigation and didn't face any problems. You can revert the layout in Settings - Gestures - System navigation
Only problem I face after moving to ArrowOS 12.1 was that some backups made with Migrate didn't work. A few apps would crash immediately (Tailscale, for example) after starting (had to clear storage), my taxi app asked to verify my credit card again which didn't work. Had to remove and add the same card again.
Also customization is pretty much absent which might be a problem for some people.
I had a long free weekend, so I decided to spend a few hours upgrading. If the ArrowOS wouldn't have worked reliably, I would have changed ROMs to something else. ArrowOS 12 is EOL and I will stick with ArrowOS 12.1 till the end of the year. Really getting too old to do clean flashes all the time

I think CrDroid 12 (8.4) is superior. I use it with ANXcamera and Magisk

Development [ROM][Official][Weekly] LineageOS 20 for Edge S / Moto G100

LineageOS is a free, community-built, aftermarket firmware distribution of Android 13, which is designed to increase performance and reliability over stock Android for your device.
Code:
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
/*
* Your warranty is now void.
*
* We are not responsible for bricked devices, dead SD cards,
* thermonuclear war, or you getting fired because the alarm app failed. Please
* do some research if you have any concerns about features included in this ROM
* before flashing it! YOU are choosing to make these modifications, and if
* you point the finger at us for messing up your device, we will laugh at you.
*
*/
LineageOS is based on the Android Open Source Project with extra contributions from many people within the Android community. It can be used without any need to have any Google application installed. You will need to provide your own Google Applications package (gapps). LineageOS does still include various hardware-specific code, which is also slowly being open-sourced anyway.
All the source code for LineageOS is available in the LineageOS Github repo. And if you would like to contribute to LineageOS, please visit our Gerrit Code Review. Your changelog is whatever was merged into gerrit.
Important information:
This thread is for LineageOS 20 builds for Edge S / Moto G100. The following will not be supported here:
Custom kernels
Mods
Xposed
We don't support Xposed and any logcat which includes an Xposed module will be ignored. You're kindly invited to not report bugs if you:
Flashed a custom kernel
Installed or did mods from untrusted sources
Modified system files
Installation:
https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/nio/install
Notice on SafetyNet:
As announced in the charter, LineageOS does not ship any hacks to help you bypass SafetyNet. The Universal SafetyNet Fix (USNF) Magisk module is a popular 3rd-party choice to workaround SafetyNet on custom ROMs. However, USNF is not sufficient to bypass SafetyNet on LineageOS, because we track the latest Android security patches while SafetyNet fails if the underlying security patch level (SPL) doesn't match stock.
To workaround this issue, I created a simple Magisk module to spoof SPL, which can be downloaded at https://github.com/MoetaYuko/spoof-spl/releases. Activating both USNF and spoof-spl should enable you to bypass SafetyNet checks. Noting that this is provided for convenience and NOT an official LineageOS solution.
Source code:
https://github.com/lineageos
Credits:
LineageOS Team & Contributors
Code Aurora Forum
Special thanks to Electimon, this work is heavily based on his prior ones.
......
Changelog & Download:
2022/10/7 initial release:​https://drive.yuko.moe/d/E5/Android/nio/lineage-20/lineage-20.0-20221006-UNOFFICIAL-nio.zip​2022/11/4:​https://drive.yuko.moe/d/E5/Android/nio/lineage-20/lineage-20.0-20221104-UNOFFICIAL-nio.zip​
Sync latest source
Fix wifi display
Reduce auto brightness latency
Other minor fixes
This is supposed to be the last custom build before official release
2023/1/2 and later:​https://download.lineageos.org/nio​

Ok. I upgrade from 19.1 to 20.0 and everything work exelent on this moment.

sp6ina said:
Ok. I upgrade from 19.1 to 20.0 and everything work exelent on this moment.
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Dirty flash?!?!
@dianlujitao , did you use test keys or can I upgrade after a clean install of your build to official 20.0 when it is coming out? Probably I will just do a clean install then, but good to know

Yes. Dirty flash.

Moto-J said:
@dianlujitao , did you use test keys or can I upgrade after a clean install of your build to official 20.0 when it is coming out? Probably I will just do a clean install then, but good to know
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Okay, installed 20.0 myself for test and indeed other build signature.
Great build, everything seems to work, no issues so far.
Dirty flash probably will work as @sp6ina mentioned, though I would recommend a clean flash always when you update to a mayor new version.

Moto-J said:
Dirty flash?!?!
@dianlujitao , did you use test keys or can I upgrade after a clean install of your build to official 20.0 when it is coming out? Probably I will just do a clean install then, but good to know
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I personally don't use officially signed builds so can't tell.

Really excited for this, thanks @dianlujitao !
I do hope the echo/noise cancellation bug with speakerphone is fixed with the upcoming official release, as I'm still stuck on stock because of it being broken in 19.1...

Some small issues here, further very stable build:
1. USB file transfer seems not to work, though PTP is (phone not showing up in explorer);
Edit: solved this by installing "Mobile universal MTP USB device" driver and now XT2125-4 is recognised ;-)
No idea now if the reason was the LOS20 install, though when it happenes, you know what to do.
So: Portable Devices - Default MTP Device - MTP USB Device solved it.
2. Some app settings seems to reset after reboot like battery setting restricted
That's it for the moment, looking forward for the next build! ;-)

I modified my phone to 16gb of RAM, but the system can't fully utilize the memory. Even though continuous use can use up to 80 percent of the memory, there are still a lot of applications that get killed in the background after a while.
The number of apps running in the background is not as good as the 12gb pixel.
Is there any possiblity to improve it？

@dianlujitao
Do you plan new release of LineagoOS 20 ?
I know, newer ask about release time but... you know

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I modified my phone to 16gb of RAM, but the system can't fully utilize the memory. Even though continuous use can use up to 80 percent of the memory, there are still a lot of applications that get killed in the background after a while.
The number of apps running in the background is not as good as the 12gb pixel.
Is there any possiblity to improve it？
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GitHub - kerneltoast/simple_lmk: A simple low memory killer kernel driver for Android devices. Pick from the branch that corresponds to your kernel version.
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NFC, gpay?

I love lineageos, but I really need my camera. You essentially discard your 64MP camera when you flash a custom ROM. Is there any app that has the option to use your ULTRARES cam? Open camera and all the others go up to 16MP. Has lineage found a way to make use of all the cams / options? Also, has an option to remap the bixby button been included?

I noticed same volume issues like on version 19.1.
e.g. can't control volume when on speaker, can't change volume when using headset (wired) in signal, wire....,adds stronger echo for the other side
Can anyone confirm?

Latest is working great here; no issues found till now. Ready for official I think
Great work @dianlujitao !

nahoda said:
I noticed same volume issues like on version 19.1.
e.g. can't control volume when on speaker, can't change volume when using headset (wired) in signal, wire....,adds stronger echo for the other side
Can anyone confirm?
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I confirm, same issues of 19.1. Echo on the other side is a real pain

Strange thing happened .. i was able to control volume during last wire call I made (both when on speaker and with headset). I changed nothing except installed magisk. But that shouldn't matter. I'm confused.

nahoda said:
Strange thing happened .. i was able to control volume during last wire call I made (both when on speaker and with headset). I changed nothing except installed magisk. But that shouldn't matter. I'm confused.
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Happens to me too.
This is what I experienced:
- Call volume cannot really be changed from the settings app (you can slide it, but nothing will change)
- Most times you cannot control call volume during a call. Sometimes, you can, but it's rare.
However, even if I slide the call volume to the minimum (if I can do it, which is rare) my caller still hears echo. The only workaround is using a pair of headphones (or stock rom). It's really sad that all custom roms have this problem and nobody seems to be able to figure out how to fix it. I tried to contact a few developers of custom ROMs to see how I can help but so far I got 0 answers...

Demax55 said:
However, even if I slide the call volume to the minimum (if I can do it, which is rare) my caller still hears echo. The only workaround is using a pair of headphones (or stock rom). It's really sad that all custom roms have this problem and nobody seems to be able to figure out how to fix it. I tried to contact a few developers of custom ROMs to see how I can help but so far I got 0 answers...
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Thanks for your involvement. It's unfortunate that noone can track the cause down.
I also noticed the echo is not present with headphones, tho if it's headset with mic it has echo.
I tried to experiment when i was still on 19.1 to replace sound related xml files with files from stock rom (i think from vendor fs), it did't help much, but headset behaved as headphones without mic, just using phone mic and echo wasn't present in such case.

This morning I was looking at the build server sites etc... to find some info about the status of LOS20. Is there a place where we can find info about the progress (not the changelog) and planning of it?
Just wondering ;-)