Might the U12+ have Dual Frequency GNSS (High precision GPS)? - HTC U12+ Questions & Answers

Reading this, and with the U12+ having the 845, I am wondering if anyone has tested to see if it's enabled. If you have one, can you test and post results here?
TIA!

Just tried on mine, no L1 or L5 data, and no repeated satellites, so no QNSS or whatever it was called. no dice

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Gps performance (sirf 3 vs qualcomm)

Hello,
I have a question. I read that in the diamond and the touch pro htc doesnt use the sirfstar 3 anymore but the qualcomm gps receiver.
The sirf 3 is a very good receiver but i dont have any experince with qualcomm. I read a review on the internet that qualcomm's performance is less effective than the sirf 3.
(http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/articles.asp?id=175&page=6)
Does anyone have any experience with the new qualcomm in htc's diamond or touch pro?
Look in the Diamond section, there's plenty of talk of issues with the GPS. No one has the Touch Pro yet since it hasn't released, so no one here could answer your question.
Black93300ZX said:
Look in the Diamond section, there's plenty of talk of issues with the GPS. No one has the Touch Pro yet since it hasn't released, so no one here could answer your question.
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But can't you summarize it??
So, I had Sirf Star 3, now I have Diamond (Qualcomm navigation). For a car use, Qualcomm performs as well as SirfStar 3, for pedestrian use, it is unusable, due to Static navigation can not be swithced. Diamond least for 2 hrs and 20 minutes of navigation, due to small batery, but like I said, for pedestrian it is unuseable, and in car you can recharge it permanently, so, iGO and TomTom works well. COM4 baud 4600.
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So, I had Sirf Star 3, now I have Diamond (Qualcomm navigation). For a car use, Qualcomm performs as well as SirfStar 3, for pedestrian use, it is unusable, due to Static navigation can not be swithced. Diamond least for 2 hrs and 20 minutes of navigation, due to small batery, but like I said, for pedestrian it is unuseable, and in car you can recharge it permanently, so, iGO and TomTom works well. COM4 baud 4600.
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Is this a software or hardware limitation?
pokevitek said:
for pedestrian use, it is unusable, due to Static navigation can not be swithced.
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I have some difficulties to understand that. What is the point with "static navigation"?
First, someone thinks it is a software problem, someone thinks its hardware. Anyway, static navigation solves the probem with "jumping" GPS coordinates when staying on one place (in car, coordinates mey be +- 5 meters off), so, navigation will not actualise location in car if speed is under 3 km/s. That is it.
Ah okay, I understand.
But this "static navigation" should be handled by the application not by the GPS driver. So the navigation software can and should decide by itself if there is some advanced map-matching applied to the coordinates.
Is this "static navigation" feature only an issue with TomTom or does this apply to GoogleMaps as well?
As far as I can remember my old TomTom 6 application had a pedestrian mode as well. I would assume this "static navigation" feature would be turned off in this case.
Does TomTom 7 have no pedestrian mode or is this really something that is handled by the GPS driver?
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Is this "static navigation" feature only an issue with TomTom or does this apply to GoogleMaps as well?
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Does TomTom 7 have no pedestrian mode or is this really something that is handled by the GPS driver?
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I think you should ask this on the Diamond forum, because almost noone has this phone right now. But if you manage to get an answer, pls let me know, because I'm really interested in this question (I mean the 1st one).
Barkeeper1979 said:
Hello,
I have a question. I read that in the diamond and the touch pro htc doesnt use the sirfstar 3 anymore but the qualcomm gps receiver.
The sirf 3 is a very good receiver but i dont have any experince with qualcomm. I read a review on the internet that qualcomm's performance is less effective than the sirf 3.
(http://www.gpspassion.com/fr/articles.asp?id=175&page=6)
Does anyone have any experience with the new qualcomm in htc's diamond or touch pro?
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mydexterid said:
I think you should ask this on the Diamond forum, because almost noone has this phone right now. But if you manage to get an answer, pls let me know, because I'm really interested in this question (I mean the 1st one).
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My experience with the Touch Diamond and iGO8 is that there is a time lag (when you stop the car the GPS continues moving 10 - 15 meters) and a lag consistently showing that my position is some 10 - 30 m behind the actual position. At least I have never seen iGO8 showing my position ahead of the actual. The latter becomes a problem when using smart or auto zoom when zoomed to the highest level. In that case it may look like i should turn at the next intersection and not the one I am in, and that is anoying. However, I believe its possible to set max zoom level also in the auto or smart mode somewhere, and that should improve matters (have not taken the time to do so).
However, the article you refer to does tell me that I'll have to live with some sort of issue, but by-and-large I find it is quite OK, especially if I zoom to a fixed level showing a little more than just 20 m road. I may add that iGO 8 in principle only runs on devices with SD support due to copy protection.
I tested (on the road) both Diamond and Touch PRO.
Diamond:
Worse performance than SirfIII receivers I've had. No GPS lag. Still, the performance is acceptable.
Touch PRO:
Performance comparable to SirfIII. Got GPS lag though.
I'm sure that the put a better GPS antenna to Touch PRO, since it gets stronger signal, faster TTF and more reliable navigation.
I hope that GPS lag is software issue that will get fixed.
Cheers,
robal said:
I tested (on the road) both Diamond and Touch PRO.
Diamond:
Worse performance than SirfIII receivers I've had. No GPS lag. Still, the performance is acceptable.
Touch PRO:
Performance comparable to SirfIII. Got GPS lag though.
I'm sure that the put a better GPS antenna to Touch PRO, since it gets stronger signal, faster TTF and more reliable navigation.
I hope that GPS lag is software issue that will get fixed.
Cheers,
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Sounds a bit wierd as TD and TPro is the same processor (and not up to the Sifr chip's performance - but that can be compensated by a well made software). Have you tried it using google map, that could be interesting. Or alternatively put it in pedestrian/off road mode and leave the road.
Lag on Raphael is driving me crazy......
Yeah, I'm seeing some pretty nasty lag myself... Just tested it out going from work to home last night, using iGo8. Seems when I stop my car, it keeps moving for a while, speed decreases quite slowly... Not quite as good as my Holux M-1200, but I'll keep testing and see...
Does anyone know/think that a software/radio/rom upgrade might fix this? Or is it just a hardware limitation?
I'm not getting hardly any lag using TomTom Navigator 6, seems perfect to me. I did set the baud rate to maximum, maybe that's why or maybe it's a software issue with IGo?
ukdj78 said:
I'm not getting hardly any lag using TomTom Navigator 6, seems perfect to me. I did set the baud rate to maximum, maybe that's why or maybe it's a software issue with IGo?
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Hmm, I'll try that tomorrow if I get a chance, although I have my doubts it'll make any difference. I was using the same setup on my Elfin, and although there was some very slight lag, nothing like what I see with the Raph....
But I'll try setting the baud rate to max and retry... I'll let y'all know...
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I'm not getting hardly any lag using TomTom Navigator 6, seems perfect to me. I did set the baud rate to maximum, maybe that's why or maybe it's a software issue with IGo?
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Most people report lag time regardless the navigationsoft. Maybe the iGO is a bit worse. I surely observe a speed dependend lag sometimes, but even while waiting in an intersection I sometimes observe that iGO informs up to 20 m to the intersection. Sometimes the turn indicator reads 0 m while the main screen surely shows that I am not yet at the intersection. Never I observerd that iGO showed a position ahead of the true position.
It is known that the TD processor is not as accurate as the Sifr chipset so I wonder if it's because the navi soft is averaging the position locking you to the road. Try to let it track your position in a mode not locking to the road (or use google map) and you'll see that the curser is moving even up to 20 m even the phone is left steady on the table.
i notice allot of gps lag with garmin mobile xt and little with tomtom 7 but it's there. Also i notice that the gps bars on tomtom or garmin do not maintain fixed, not the signal, that would be normal, but the satellite number. This is very strange when i have a few satellites with a very good signal and suddenly the gps software stops using it, why ??? If i was moving around i would accept that, but since i'm not moving why doesn't it maintain the same satellites ??
Always jumping around satellites instead of maintaining them and this is probably caused by the driver that decodes the gps/satellite information.
I really think that the problem comes from the driver that windows uses for the gps + the radio version.
I'm really confident that future ""HTC"" updates will solve the problem, not cooked roms having has base the actual htc rom(s)
Only time will tell , we will have to wait for the next htc update.
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i notice allot of gps lag with garmin mobile xt and little with tomtom 7 but it's there. Also i notice that the gps bars on tomtom or garmin do not maintain fixed, not the signal, that would be normal, but the satellite number. This is very strange when i have a few satellites with a very good signal and suddenly the gps software stops using it, why ??? If i was moving around i would accept that, but since i'm not moving why doesn't it maintain the same satellites ??
Always jumping around satellites instead of maintaining them and this is probably caused by the driver that decodes the gps/satellite information.
I really think that the problem comes from the driver that windows uses for the gps + the radio version.
I'm really confident that future ""HTC"" updates will solve the problem, not cooked roms having has base the actual htc rom(s)
Only time will tell , we will have to wait for the next htc update.
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Satellites are moving and the atmospharical conditions changing all the time affecting the signal you receive.
The chipset used by HTC is also not performing as well as the the Sirf III having a lower accuraccy, but that doesn't change the signal strength received of course.
guitarguy said:
Yeah, I'm seeing some pretty nasty lag myself... Just tested it out going from work to home last night, using iGo8. Seems when I stop my car, it keeps moving for a while, speed decreases quite slowly... Not quite as good as my Holux M-1200, but I'll keep testing and see...
Does anyone know/think that a software/radio/rom upgrade might fix this? Or is it just a hardware limitation?
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its an IGO8 issue. i believe its programmed in so that if you lose sattelite it makes assumptions about where you are going (since you gave it the end point anyway, its fair to assume that you are continuing in that direction). What i wish they would do is put you 3 secs ahead of where it currently shows you, more often than not it would be an accurate assumption. I love igo8 but in a complicated intersection i often miss the correct turn.

Reboot and freeze with Locations

I had some reboots and freeze during HTC Locations premium navigation. Anyone has a similar problem?
heavyhms said:
I had some reboots and freeze during a 15 min. HTC Locations premium navigation (with no data and bluetooth enabled). Anyone has a similar problem?
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After 30 min. Google Navigator navigation (with data and bluetooth enabled and vehicular charger connected to maximize heat generation) no freeze or hangs... maybe a Locations Bug or a defective microsd
LG O2X vs. Desire S
Sorry to steal your thread, but seem to have both Desire S and LG Optimus 2X.
How would you compare them?
I'm interested especially in display usability outdoors. I have seen some information about comparative brightness here: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_s-review-590p2.php (a table in about middle of the page).
But that contradicts some other reports I have seen (like Desire S having better display than Incredible S which some users reported). And also that one disregards reflexivity of displays which is very important outdoors.
I'm also interested in non-obvious build quality differences.
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Sorry to steal your thread, but seem to have both Desire S and LG Optimus 2X.
How would you compare them?
I'm interested especially in display usability outdoors. I have seen some information about comparative brightness here: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_s-review-590p2.php (a table in about middle of the page).
But that contradicts some other reports I have seen (like Desire S having better display than Incredible S which some users reported). And also that one disregards reflexivity of displays which is very important outdoors.
I'm also interested in non-obvious build quality differences.
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Outdoor performance are noticeably better on Lg ips screen: the Sony Superlcd is poorly readable (but usable) on direct strong sunlight. On the bottom line LG screen is NOT usable at all in landscape if you use polarised sunglasses (you cannot see anything).
Build quality is better on Desire, noticeably better on loudspeaker (LG one has very noticeable distortion on hight volume). On LG the flashlight cover hole is a open door to the dust: if you cannot fix by yourself by home made rubber gasket you can notice dust under the camera protection after a couple of days.
(my english is horrible, sorry )
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(my english is horrible, sorry )
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No problem for me. Thank you.
Did you notice a difference in how much a battery lasts (for similar use patterns)?
I have the same problems with locations. It freezes when I move around in the program.
After routing for app. 30 min, it either reset the phone or just close the phone.
/Michael
Desire S
mhfalken said:
I have the same problems with locations. It freezes when I move around in the program.
After routing for app. 30 min, it either reset the phone or just close the phone.
/Michael
Desire S
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today i had two 30 min. route without no problem, but i don't have played much with options. Maybe re-downloading maps and repairing memory card filesystem has fixed the issue
not yet,for not a long time via using...
but who knows whether this can happen to me...
here to learn some tips

Kingzone K1 Turbo / K1S Video Review - MT6592 - NFC - Wireless Charging

Hi guys
I just got this phone and I wanted to share this with you:
Specs:
5.5" inch capacitive 5-Point Multi Touch Screen
Display 1920x1080 pixel Full HD resolution, IPS-Display, LTPS-technology
CPU: MTK6592 true octa-core @1.7GHz
GPU: Mali 450-MP
Android 4.2.x Jelly Bean
2GB RAM / 16GB of internal memory / TF-card support
Quadband, unlocked, 3G / UMTS / HSDPA+ / WCDMA
Wifi, Bluetooth, GPS, A-GPS, g-sensor, proximity sensor, light sensor, magnetic field sensor, gyro sensor, notification LED
OTG - USB on the go
NFC - Near Field Communication
Air Gesture Control
Wireless charging (with smart cover)
OTA - Over the Air firmware updates
Main camera: 14MP output ,autofocus, LED flash, F2.2
Front camera: 8MP output , autofocus, F.2.4
Dual Sim - Dual Standby (regular size and Micro Sim)
More pictures to be found here: http://colonelzap.blogspot.de/2014/05/kingzone-k1-turbo-video-review-mt6592.html
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.
I get this, too. The metal chassis feels premium. A little bit expensive though.
I too received mine last week.
overall this is a really good phone , nicely built , beautifull full hd screen , very fast.
only negative point , but i don't know if this come from my unit or if its general issue from this phone,
the WIFI and Bluetooth signal are weaker than my other phone ( Samsung Omnia 7 / Sony XPERIA U )
if i stand in my rooter room i got no problem , but if i go in my kitchen , i lose signal while the 2 other phone have very low but some signal still.
And about bluetooth , when i connect my audio headset , and put the phone in my pocket it sometimes disconnect when i turn my head in the opposite direction of my holster .
that never happended with my Omnia7.
Actually i can live w/o bluetooth but the WIFI signal at my job is low in my office as being far from rooter and i get trouble connecting
Can you guys test your WIFI and bluetooth signal ? against other smartphone ?
everything is just works fine , only we need custom roms
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And about bluetooth , when i connect my audio headset , and put the phone in my pocket it sometimes disconnect when i turn my head in the opposite direction of my holster .
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AFAIK every Mediatek phone with Android 4.2.2 suffers from that issue. Might be better with the upcoming 4.4 ... hopefully.
Ulster94 said:
AFAIK every Mediatek phone with Android 4.2.2 suffers from that issue. Might be better with the upcoming 4.4 ... hopefully.
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this phone runs android 4.3.9 but it might be the same . i hope it software or firmware related .
i contacted the shop but i doubt they will do anything as it does works but the signal is just a bit weak IMHO.
and i guess the chip is the same for bluetooth and wifi ... so same problem.
edit: made a picture but can't link it here due to being newbie
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this phone runs android 4.3.9 but it might be the same .
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It definitely does NOT run on Android 4.3.9, an Android version like that does not exist!
As I said in my video, I am sure it runs on 4.2.x, probably 4.2.2
I also don't have any problems with Wifi at all, with MY setup, this phone has a very powerful wifi reception, a LOT better than most of the other phones I had so far
ColonelZap said:
It definitely does NOT run on Android 4.3.9, an Android version like that does not exist!
As I said in my video, I am sure it runs on 4.2.x, probably 4.2.2
I also don't have any problems with Wifi at all, with MY setup, this phone has a very powerful wifi reception, a LOT better than most of the other phones I had so far
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well i received a message from the shop this morning to send the device back.
guess i'll send it back as it seems my device is faulty.
As ColonelZap wrote - it is definitively Android 4.2.2 and not 4.3.9. There are currently no drivers from Mediatek for Android 4.3.x.
I have two other phones with a Mediatek cpu and both have the same BT issues like the K1, not with a headset (never tried) but with car connections (different cars verified). Establishing a connection is never an issue but any transmission is interrupted. Sometimes earlier sometimes later (1 min upto 5 min.)
But the WLAN connection of my K1 is pretty fine.So maybe your device has a hardware issue in addition.
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But the WLAN connection of my K1 is pretty fine.So maybe your device has a hardware issue in addition.
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yeah , i think that too , but what worries me is that the WIFI does works , just not so well , so i hope they don't send the same unit again...
well i will write down the serial number and IMEI and see
thanks for the feedback guys.
Just ordered this phone, i hopes everything runs well, waiting for another review or issues of the batteries, gps and etc?
@colonel zap can you share with us what you are doing with this phone until it's so powerful like that?
Thanx in advance :good:
maxilimian said:
@colonel zap can you share with us what you are doing with this phone until it's so powerful like that?
Thanx in advance :good:
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What am I doing with this phone? Not much, so far I only "tested" it
I made a little "update" video:
And I also uploaded a few camera test pictures on my blog:
http://colonelzap.blogspot.de/2014/05/kingzone-k1-turbo-video-review-mt6592.html
terrible phone call quality
Hello I had 6 chinese MTK phones in the past 3 years. This one has the best build quality. Howeve it has ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE voice/call quality, the other side can hardly understand me over all the humming, hissing, parts of words missing. So far I have not been able to complete a single phone call without the óther person saying "I can hardly understand you and what is all the noise and humming" This occurs in areas with very strong signal and gets even worse with weaker signal. It is impossible to make the phone call with less than 4 signal bars out of 5.
So far terrible experience at this price.
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maxilimian said:
Just ordered this phone, i hopes everything runs well, waiting for another review or issues of the batteries, gps and etc?
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GPS locks fast and has strong reception - NO GLONAS SUPPORT (or at least during the testing I did not receive a single GLONASS sattelite) contrary to what is sometimes mentioned on certain chinese sites.
With 1-2 phone calls, hour of wifi and hour od GPS battery has about 40% at the end of the day.
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Howeve it has ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE voice/call quality, the other side can hardly understand me over all the humming, hissing, parts of words missing.
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Are you sure your microphone is o.k.? Have you tested a voice recorder? So far nobody I had on the phone has complained to me that they can't hear me well?!?
ColonelZap said:
Are you sure your microphone is o.k.? Have you tested a voice recorder? So far nobody I had on the phone has complained to me that they can't hear me well?!?
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Voice recorder as well as VOIP (Skype test service). Standard and OK sound quality.
Only occurs during phone calls. I have not yet had one without the person saying he/she can't hear me well or at all...
tomisdn said:
Voice recorder as well as VOIP (Skype test service). Standard and OK sound quality.
Only occurs during phone calls. I have not yet had one without the person saying he/she can't hear me well or at all...
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I only made a couple of phone calls so far and for "testing purposes" I always leave myself a message on my machine, sound quality was just fine! My service provider operates on GSM1800 (eplus Germany).
ColonelZap said:
I only made a couple of phone calls so far and for "testing purposes" I always leave myself a message on my machine, sound quality was just fine! My service provider operates on GSM1800 (eplus Germany).
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This is clearly related to the HW/FW of this one phone. It occured right out-of-box during first call and persisted ever since. It is not related to the GSM signal, location, provider (tested 2 different providers), contact I am calling.... Second phone I have in identical situation work jsut OK.
Not saying this affects all units, just sayng to be careful when buying.
Support from Kingzone is ZERO (sent 3 requests for advice and/or firmware file to try reflash)
If someone finds or gathers stock ROM let me know.
Tomas
I made some sample camera pictures:
Does anybody in the USA have this phone? If so, what service are you using it on and what kind of data speeds are you seeing?
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What am I doing with this phone? Not much, so far I only "tested" it
I made a little "update" video:
And I also uploaded a few camera test pictures on my blog:
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Already watch it before posting so you only root it?hehe
Waiting for availability of the cwm or twrp that might works?
tomisdn said:
Hello I had 6 chinese MTK phones in the past 3 years. This one has the best build quality. Howeve it has ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE voice/call quality, the other side can hardly understand me over all the humming, hissing, parts of words missing. So far I have not been able to complete a single phone call without the óther person saying "I can hardly understand you and what is all the noise and humming" This occurs in areas with very strong signal and gets even worse with weaker signal. It is impossible to make the phone call with less than 4 signal bars out of 5.
So far terrible experience at this price.
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GPS locks fast and has strong reception - NO GLONAS SUPPORT (or at least during the testing I did not receive a single GLONASS sattelite) contrary to what is sometimes mentioned on certain chinese sites.
With 1-2 phone calls, hour of wifi and hour od GPS battery has about 40% at the end of the day.
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A-GPS support? wondering the battery durability with the 3G signal on the whole days ...
tomisdn said:
This is clearly related to the HW/FW of this one phone. It occured right out-of-box during first call and persisted ever since. It is not related to the GSM signal, location, provider (tested 2 different providers), contact I am calling.... Second phone I have in identical situation work jsut OK.
Not saying this affects all units, just sayng to be careful when buying.
Support from Kingzone is ZERO (sent 3 requests for advice and/or firmware file to try reflash)
If someone finds or gathers stock ROM let me know.
Tomas
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Wow i think it's hardware problem if colonel zap or other didn't have the same problem, or maybe the problem is with another person phone/provider which made a call with you? since you didn't have problem hearing the calls from her/him?
Ulster94 said:
As ColonelZap wrote - it is definitively Android 4.2.2 and not 4.3.9. There are currently no drivers from Mediatek for Android 4.3.x.
I have two other phones with a Mediatek cpu and both have the same BT issues like the K1, not with a headset (never tried) but with car connections (different cars verified). Establishing a connection is never an issue but any transmission is interrupted. Sometimes earlier sometimes later (1 min upto 5 min.)
But the WLAN connection of my K1 is pretty fine.So maybe your device has a hardware issue in addition.
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I found the articles on another sites, that i think JB 4.3.9 is somekind of CusROM called Ali Cloud OS .. similar thing like AMIGO OS JB ?

Is it a good buy?

Hi guys, I have a quick question for you.
I am considering buying a new phone but don't want to spend too much. I have noticed how the Mix 2s has singnificantly dropped in price lately.
With regard to the camera in particular, how does it compare to let's say the s10e? If I install a custom rom/camera will it still be below the s10e one? Basically, is the hardware of the two too different for the mix 2s to reach s10e level via software optimization? Thanks to those who will help me out
That depends, the camera is good on this phone, no doubt about it. I don't know how it compares with the S10e, but I think if I had the chance I would not buy the Mi Mix 2s again. My main problem, the selfiecam that's below the phone. I don't take selfies very often, but when I do it's annoying to flip the phone every time.
Regarding the software: I've been using a lot of custom roms, but ended up with the Global Beta MIUI-rom. It's stable, receives weekly updates, and gives me the best battery life. No more custom roms for me.
Good luck with your choice!
Hey, you ask about the camera, and i can say when i first got my phone , the camera blew me away, amazing shots, good quality, the selfie cam takes nice shots in good light, video quality improved alot with 1080p 60fps and 4k 60fps, for its price recommended, the ceramic back is just gorgeous, about custom roms, we got google camera from good devs, and also a port of MIUI CAM for AOSP ROMS, with working 60fps recording.
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Hi guys, I have a quick question for you.
I am considering buying a new phone but don't want to spend too much. I have noticed how the Mix 2s has singnificantly dropped in price lately.
With regard to the camera in particular, how does it compare to let's say the s10e? If I install a custom rom/camera will it still be below the s10e one? Basically, is the hardware of the two too different for the mix 2s to reach s10e level via software optimization? Thanks to those who will help me out
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Thank you both guys! Yes the price has gotten very competitive lately. I like its design but I understand the selfie camera position is quite inconvenient. Not sure I will get this phone yet, there are some things about it that I don`t really like (lack of headphone jack above all) but it`s nice to see most users are liking the phone despite some minor downsides. Thanks
DON'T BUY IT!
It has good camera, but since january there are so many problems with gsm and connectivity that You should not treat this device as phone Right now I needed to get another phone and move one of sim card there, because mimix2s usually is out of range. My operator sends me sms each time I was out of range and somebody tried to call me, in last months I had hundreds of them being in center of city with "full range". Many callers complains about voice quality, often You are disconnected on call. When signal is not strong You will be offline, phone gets got trying to connect, sometimes restart helps.
I told You in january there was a change that brake connectivity, last ROM without problem is 10.0.7.0. User reports that some AOSP ROMS are good too, but I can't confirm that on my side, signal is just weaker on them. I have now one of cards in samsung A40 and this phone just works, has full signal when this struggle to get anything, bluetooth don't disconnects, and nobody complains about voice quality, data connections works. My device is not broken, many other reports this issue right after ROM update, this depends on country, region, maybe some specific GSM operator settings. Xiaomi needed to make change because of SAR: https://piunikaweb.com/2019/04/01/x...port-weak-no-signal-and-other-network-issues/
Problem is still not fixed: http://c.mi.com/thread-1896725-3-1.html
I also don't experience any of these problems you're describing
i was thinking to buy MI mix2s too. Is it a good phone? I surveyed all other phones with similar specs (except camera) and found this. Probably the cheapest sd 845 phone in my country for now. I dont care about camera quality but i am a serious multitasker and gamer. Is the battery life good? Someone guide me please and very appreciated. Thanks :3
ninikninik said:
DON'T BUY IT!
It has good camera, but since january there are so many problems with gsm and connectivity that You should not treat this device as phone Right now I needed to get another phone and move one of sim card there, because mimix2s usually is out of range. My operator sends me sms each time I was out of range and somebody tried to call me, in last months I had hundreds of them being in center of city with "full range". Many callers complains about voice quality, often You are disconnected on call. When signal is not strong You will be offline, phone gets got trying to connect, sometimes restart helps.
I told You in january there was a change that brake connectivity, last ROM without problem is 10.0.7.0. User reports that some AOSP ROMS are good too, but I can't confirm that on my side, signal is just weaker on them. I have now one of cards in samsung A40 and this phone just works, has full signal when this struggle to get anything, bluetooth don't disconnects, and nobody complains about voice quality, data connections works. My device is not broken, many other reports this issue right after ROM update, this depends on country, region, maybe some specific GSM operator settings. Xiaomi needed to make change because of SAR: https://piunikaweb.com/2019/04/01/x...port-weak-no-signal-and-other-network-issues/
Problem is still not fixed: http://c.mi.com/thread-1896725-3-1.html
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Czesc
I'm having problems with this phone also, I'm in Canada, and I get constant network drops, 10-20sec before it reconnects back to any network.
Entering big buildings like shopping mall, or for example Home Depot (Obi) I get no signal anymore.
Love the phone for it's value, but it's starting to be useless when I need it to work.
What would you recommend to switch to, mi 9 or mix 3 maybe ?

thinking of buying the poco x3 nfc, need advice!

i read here and elsewhere about some issues with this device, but i can't tell for sure if its common or just certain people who were unfortunate.. i have a few questions and i hope you guys could help..
1- is there a common issue with wifi and/or cellular(LTE, 4G, 3G) connectivity in this device, such as dropped calls, dropped signal, wifi misbehaving ?
2- is there a common issue regarding the stereo speakers? (some say people around could hear the person you're talking to on the phone, others say the phone vibrates when playing music!)..
3- is it possible to set the display refresh to say 60hz from settings, or does it change automatically and can't be controlled by the user?
4- are there any common issues with custom roms, for example custom roms for the note 8 pro all have issues with automatic brightness and maybe a few more things!!
5- is there anything else i should know or worry about regarding this model?
hope you guys could help. thank you.
jaikat said:
i read here and elsewhere about some issues with this device, but i can't tell for sure if its common or just certain people who were unfortunate.. i have a few questions and i hope you guys could help..
1- is there a common issue with wifi and/or cellular(LTE, 4G, 3G) connectivity in this device, such as dropped calls, dropped signal, wifi misbehaving ?
2- is there a common issue regarding the stereo speakers? (some say people around could hear the person you're talking to on the phone, others say the phone vibrates when playing music!)..
3- is it possible to set the display refresh to say 60hz from settings, or does it change automatically and can't be controlled by the user?
4- are there any common issues with custom roms, for example custom roms for the note 8 pro all have issues with automatic brightness and maybe a few more things!!
5- is there anything else i should know or worry about regarding this model?
hope you guys could help. thank you.
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This phone is the most bang for your buck imo, but nothing is perfect, so to answer your questions:
Signal strength in this phone is absolutely great, especially the 4G+/LTE+ mode (if your carrier supports it). If i were to to compare Poco x3 to high end devices, I would compare it to a Samsung Note 9 or in the similar generation/production year. Some Custom ROMs have issues with 5GHz wifi reception, but on most of them and stock MIUI you will find no issues.
After MIUI 12.0.4.0 (currently 12.0.7.0 is latest) the speaker problem was resolved. It mostly was due to the fact that calles were handled in stereo mode instead of mono and the treble was too high, but It was noticed quickly and dealt with. Music will still rumble a bit in highest volume, although it gives the bass a better boost (people here have different opinions on this issue).
If you plan to use the phone at stock MIUI, you will get two refresh rate options: 60Hz and 120Hz, both of which are dynamically adjusted to the content you are on. For example youtube will scale down to 30Hz when watching a video regardless of which option you chose. Custom ROMs (all of them) have this feature/annoyance called displayfeature hal removed and have added a 90Hz mode as well. So a stock experience isn't advised.
Nothing notable comes to mind. Ok maybe Camera is slightly an issue, but Gcam is getting better everyday where it's almost the same as stock cam (if not better). If you divide different xda phone forums into alpha, beta and stable, then our phone has already transitioned from beta to stable status. You have missed the "beta" phase by a few months now.
Like all Xiaomi devices, EDL mode is locked. Meaning a hard brick is costly to fix/repair. If you never flashed a phone shipped with android 10 before (most people haven't), then read all instructions very carefully, especially recovery threads. Magisk CTS sometimes doesn't pass, but that issue isn't really exclusive to this device.
I have bought two devices. One early in September, which has no issues. The other I had to return recently due to QC issues, as it only had 85% battery capacity (from official seller), so my advice would be to check everything including sensors and battery. If everything looks ok, then you're all set.

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