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How would you compare camera in Mi4c vs Galaxy s4 ? Is there any one who moved from s4 to Mi4c ? I have browsed all pages with pictures and comparison tools however cannot find real user experience. I am currently using sgs4 and camera is enough for me, however with new phone I would like to get a bit more Will I get it with Mi4C ?
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If I were in your place, I'd wait for mi5. S4 ain't a bad device
The only thing i liked about the S4 was the screen. The camera takes blurry shots 4/5 times and it lagged to no end. The Mi4c is worlds above it.
I had i9505 2 months ago I sold It and bought mi4c I think mi4c has a better camera as compared to s4 and if we talk about features of camera mi4c has awesome manual mode which s4 lacks
I agree with ermacwins. You should wait a little for mi5
hey, as far as camera is concerned the mi4c is miles ahead of the s4 (and it should be, actually, it's a flagship two years ahead !) i wasn't a sg4 owner but i have used it a lot and i'm also a previous xperia z owner (both share the same imx135 sensor) and i can safely suggest the mi4c as a camera update over the sg4. however if you are very interested in night photography mi4/mi note will suit you better (and of course mi5).
mi4c's imx258 is way ahead of s4, IMO the worst thing about mi4c's camera is the MIUI camera app itself - you've got plenty of options, but in worse light conditions it ruins 9 of 10 taken photos - a much simpler google camera takes much better pictures as it uses better exposure parameters and doesn't try to wipe out the higher ISO noise along with all the detail left
and yes, wait for the mi5 to appear - the mi4c price will drop making it even better buy
Hi, I come from a family of S4 owners but used a LG G2 instead.
The Mi4C takes much better pictures than the S4 (main reason being its fast PDAF focus). The processing is mature, it capures much more light in the same conditions as well and shutter lag is much less. Like the other people here, I advise you to wait for the Mi 5 release, but here are some pictures I took with my Mi 4c:
xdadevet said:
Hi, I come from a family of S4 owners but used a LG G2 instead.
The Mi4C takes much better pictures than the S4 (main reason being its fast PDAF focus). The processing is mature, it capures much more light in the same conditions as well and shutter lag is much less. Like the other people here, I advise you to wait for the Mi 5 release, but here are some pictures I took with my Mi 4c:
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I remember reading your comments on the xda portal camera related on cm roms. If you havent tried cm13, try it now because it has a new snapdragon camera and it rivals the miui stock camera.
adamuadamu said:
mi4c's imx258 is way ahead of s4, IMO the worst thing about mi4c's camera is the MIUI camera app itself - you've got plenty of options, but in worse light conditions it ruins 9 of 10 taken photos - a much simpler google camera takes much better pictures as it uses better exposure parameters and doesn't try to wipe out the higher ISO noise along with all the detail left
and yes, wait for the mi5 to appear - the mi4c price will drop making it even better buy
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actually the miui app has proper manual controls and the g. camera has not. but yes, in auto mode your night shots come out both blurry and full of noise. (who makes the software? the camera picks 1/12 s.s. and 3000 iso ! tons of noise and shake too ! )
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I remember reading your comments on the xda portal camera related on cm roms. If you havent tried cm13, try it now because it has a new snapdragon camera and it rivals the miui stock camera.
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I'm on Team Superluminal's CM13. I'll definitely look into it. The stock camera of CM13 is horrible, it doesn't even support PDAF. At the moment I have to restore a MiUI build when I know I'm going to spend the day taking pictures, and revert back to CM13 afterwards. Thank you for letting me know, camera quality is the one thing that bugs me on AOSP.
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I'm on Team Superluminal's CM13. I'll definitely look into it. The stock camera of CM13 is horrible, it doesn't even support PDAF. At the moment I have to restore a MiUI build when I know I'm going to spend the day taking pictures, and revert back to CM13 afterwards. Thank you for letting me know, camera quality is the one thing that bugs me on AOSP.
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Are you on the latest build because it was added with the ROM. I'm on a older build and had to flash the camera. There was some flickering but apparently fixed.
I love this mode from my Huawei ascend mate 7, i could take pictures of the stars.
With the new and approved Galaxy S7 camera, i would like this mode added.
With a mod or other method.
Yes, that would interest me.
If someone can port the Huawei camera app to the S7, maybe it'll work, but that's about the only way.
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I'm sure it can be done. The S7's camera has fantastic low light capabilities, so to be able to port over a software setting to optimize night pics like that should be doable. Samsung will probably update their stock camera software to include that ability soon. With the developments of HTC, Sony, Samsung, and LG (Ibelieve the G5 will be the device to watch this year. With their modular camera accessories, they can continue to improve the hardware with the same device. It's a brilliant concept), I expect smartphone camera technology to be able to take perfectly professional pictures in the very near future
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I'm sure it can be done. The S7's camera has fantastic low light capabilities, so to be able to port over a software setting to optimize night pics like that should be doable. Samsung will probably update their stock camera software to include that ability soon. With the developments of HTC, Sony, Samsung, and LG (Ibelieve the G5 will be the device to watch this year. With their modular camera accessories, they can continue to improve the hardware with the same device. It's a brilliant concept), I expect smartphone camera technology to be able to take perfectly professional pictures in the very near future
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That is bullocks.. The camera stays the same.. And the camera on the G5 isnt that special. They can only improve Software not the hardware....
You can easily take a photo of the stars by tinkering on the pro mode.
Simply look at the lowest ISO and decreasing the shutter speed. You will need to stablise your phone of course.
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I'm sure it can be done. The S7's camera has fantastic low light capabilities, so to be able to port over a software setting to optimize night pics like that should be doable. Samsung will probably update their stock camera software to include that ability soon. With the developments of HTC, Sony, Samsung, and LG (Ibelieve the G5 will be the device to watch this year. With their modular camera accessories, they can continue to improve the hardware with the same device. It's a brilliant concept), I expect smartphone camera technology to be able to take perfectly professional pictures in the very near future
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So people are gullible enough to believe LG can add sth else apart from batteries with their module? The only other possibility is a lens attachment which won't change much. The G5 isn't that modular in the real sense of the word. The camera won't change.
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In pro mode select aperture settings and select 10, this sets the exposure to 10 seconds, with this you can achieve amazing photos of the sky and and milky way, very impressive for a phone.
Why you need that app for that?
Already available on the S7 in Pro Mode.
So I'm having trouble deciding between the 6x and the 8. I'm coming from a Nextbit Robin with a Snapdragon 808 and 3GB of RAM. I use NFC to bump to my camera, but I can live without it if it saves me enough money.
I'm gathering that the 6X display isn't quite as nice as the honor 8's (density, lack of oleophobic, etc), but otherwise how is the performance and what made you pick the budget version over the more expensive "flagship" 8? I must admit, one of my big hesitations is EMUI- I'm a fan of stock Android, and many of my touchwiz etc devices have been flashed to CM/OmniRom/Lineage OS, etc to get the original Android feel back. Heck, even my Nextbit robin which is quite stock out of the box aside from a custom launcher, is now running OmniRom with more-or-less weekly updates that are surprisingly stable. Which of the two phones have more stock-like custom roms available?
I'd think the 8, but I'm seeing a lot of unfinished WIPs Anything stable enough for daily driver on the Honor or 6x?
Hi, the performance of this phone fits well with an high usage, i came from a dead S4 Mini on this phone due to the report price/quality and I'm very satisfied; it never gets hot, so the ram is well managed by the SoC and camera quality is awesome, for example; the only thing that suffers on devices with Huawei's Kirin processors, for as much they can handle the phone well, is a strong development community behind. We have a team working on custom Roms, but as you could imagine it can't be compared to the strength of devices powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon processors, wide open to third-party development, and so supported by many more teams of developers. Huawei released sources for Honor 8 and 6X too, but there are still some known bugs on cooked roms; like the possibility to use the stock Huawei camera app, that gives his best on pictures results. Or HwComposer bug, that have an impact on UI performances making it laggy. Looks like other developers aren't interested in working with Kirin processors at the moment. Aside this, i dunno if custom ROMs situation at the moment is better on 6X or 8 because i own a 6X and i know a few about honor 8, but not the state of rom development. It should be better on 8 at the moment if I'm not wrong, but bugs mentioned above are still present. If you mind to have a strong mid-range phone at a good price, go for 6X. If you want some more, go for 8
Yeah, the unique dual-sensor camera is something I'm concerned about as I'm sure that isn't even close to standardized, so I was thinking it would probably only work properly on the original factory firmware. Camera is a pretty significant part of the decision process on this phone, so having to choose between clean Google UI without any unexpected quirks (I've heard about EMUI's power management aggressively closing background apps among other things), or having that beautiful camera work properly.
With all due respect, coming from the S4 Mini this must have been a huge upgrade for you! The s4 mini didn't even have 2GB of ram if I recall correctly, and very underpowered dual core CPU. I'm coming from a Snapdragon flagship-class chip with 3GB.
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I agree with you, to me camera is an important thing too to keep in mind while choosing a device. Here surely you wouldn't make a wrong step, I am very satisfied by the camera that this phone is carrying with him. EMUI's background killer instinct is adjustable however it let you choose which apps kill or not, something similar to Greenify.
Regarding my old Sammy, it's bad that it just hard-broke one day from another due to a simple call received. I answered, and then it suddenly shut off... Forever. I've tried a lot of stuff, nothing worked. It's a stone now. I'm sure that this is exactly a programmed obsolescence by Samsung, especially after the hundreds, or better, thousands of help threads that I've seen appearing both on XDA and other tech forums in the same splice of time. You're right it had 1,5GB of ram, it has been a great jump of performances indeed. Which phone you have anyway?
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I agree with you, to me camera is an important thing too to keep in mind while choosing a device. Here surely you wouldn't make a wrong step, I am very satisfied by the camera that this phone is carrying with him. EMUI's background killer instinct is adjustable however it let you choose which apps kill or not, something similar to Greenify.
Regarding my old Sammy, it's bad that it just hard-broke one day from another due to a simple call received. I answered, and then it suddenly shut off... Forever. I've tried a lot of stuff, nothing worked. It's a stone now. I'm sure that this is exactly a programmed obsolescence by Samsung, especially after the hundreds, or better, thousands of help threads that I've seen appearing both on XDA and other tech forums in the same splice of time. You're right it had 1,5GB of ram, it has been a great jump of performances indeed. Which phone you have anyway?
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I'm using a P8 Lite 2017, and the 12MP camera is amazing, so I can only imagine the Honor 6X is even better. I came from a Galaxy Note 4 (Snapdragon 805 and 3GB RAM) and I can assure you that the Kirin 655 is well optimized. I'd say go for the 6X and have money to spare. You won't be disappointed
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I'm using a P8 Lite 2017, and the 12MP camera is amazing, so I can only imagine the Honor 6X is even better. I came from a Galaxy Note 4 (Snapdragon 805 and 3GB RAM) and I can assure you that the Kirin 655 is well optimized. I'd say go for the 6X and have money to spare. You won't be disappointed
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Shoots awesome pictures, it just lose some points on photos with low light. Details are wonderful! The Kirin handles the phone in an excellent manner. The really weak point is development community
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Shoots awesome pictures, it just lose some points on photos with low light. Details are wonderful! The Kirin handles the phone in an excellent manner. The really weak point is development community
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I agree completely. Fingers crossed that our devices receive Android 8
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I agree completely. Fingers crossed that our devices receive Android 8
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Fingers crossed that the Oreo-EMUI fusion won't be worst than Nougat, more than everything battery performance was way better optimized on Marshmallow than on Nougat... Because if Huawei fails on this, i prefer to remain on Nougat
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Fingers crossed that the Oreo-EMUI fusion won't be worst than Nougat, more than everything battery performance was way better optimized on Marshmallow than on Nougat... Because if Huawei fails on this, i prefer to remain on Nougat
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I find battery life with the 3000mah battery in my P8 Lite 2017 mediocre. The phone shipped with Nougat out of the box so I don't have experience with the Kirin 655 on Marshmallow. However, my Huawei P8 had great battery life on Marshmallow even though it used a power hungry Kirin 930 and had a substantially smaller battery. Nougat and EMUI 5 is brilliant however as it has the app drawer option finally available. I also like the quick toggles and notification shade. I wish we had the transparent notification shade and more gestures like the high end devices. Rooting is very risky at the moment as there is too many steps. It's disappointing that the UI elements were disabled in the software
What is the price difference between these two models on your region. That is also one of the biggest factor for comparison.
Camera - is better on 8 and does well woth same MP of pixels for rear cam amd performs well in low light as well. With that said, 6X is definitely not a bad option for camwra, it does well dor sure.
Battery -better on 6X, i think, with 3340 mAh but as honor 8 has a smalled screen, it may be neck to neck here.
Design- both has it own cons and pros. 8 is simply awesome in blue but with glass design you may need to be careful as it may be slippery. On the other hand, 6X looks stunning in metal body but camera bump is bad and could be damagee easily if not managed. Design wise, 8 is better on any day.
Custom rom development- 8 has got many roms than 6X and i dont we may see much here for 6X.
Android O update- not officially disclosed but 8 will get (99.99%) and there are lot of confusion on 6X update but it should get (99.98% LOL).
Screen size- 5.2 of Honor 8 is much handy and easily carried in pocket than 6X but if you dont have issues with 5.5 inch screen.
Dual sim- your region may not have dual sim support (Indian variant has this issue)
Honor 8 was a upper mid range flagship level phone and 6X is excellent mid range model.
Rest your choice :good:
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I find battery life with the 3000mah battery in my P8 Lite 2017 mediocre. The phone shipped with Nougat out of the box so I don't have experience with the Kirin 655 on Marshmallow. However, my Huawei P8 had great battery life on Marshmallow even though it used a power hungry Kirin 930 and had a substantially smaller battery. Nougat and EMUI 5 is brilliant however as it has the app drawer option finally available. I also like the quick toggles and notification shade. I wish we had the transparent notification shade and more gestures like the high end devices. Rooting is very risky at the moment as there is too many steps. It's disappointing that the UI elements were disabled in the software
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I agree, the drawer is way better, using a launcher could help even if this wouldn't happened already with the upgrade to EMUI 5 but giving the chance to the user to choose the home style is a must. For transparent notification menu, there's a voice in the local.prop file in root/system/emui/lite/prop that with a little change of a Boolean value from true to false, gives transparent notification panel and enables the camera to shoot raw pictures (if didn't enabled already by default), but could have an impact on UI with some lags while scrolling. I had rooted my phone 3 weeks after that i bought it and even if harder than other phones, it was essential to enable an adblock and another feature not available by default on all 6X models, it's the call record feature. Some countries have it enabled from beginning, other not because more restrictive in privacy laws. But here on XDA i found everything that was necessary to do it
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What is the price difference between these two models on your region. That is also one of the biggest factor for comparison.
Camera - is better on 8 and does well woth same MP of pixels for rear cam amd performs well in low light as well. With that said, 6X is definitely not a bad option for camwra, it does well dor sure.
Battery -better on 6X, i think, with 3340 mAh but as honor 8 has a smalled screen, it may be neck to neck here.
Design- both has it own cons and pros. 8 is simply awesome in blue but with glass design you may need to be careful as it may be slippery. On the other hand, 6X looks stunning in metal body but camera bump is bad and could be damagee easily if not managed. Design wise, 8 is better on any day.
Custom rom development- 8 has got many roms than 6X and i dont we may see much here for 6X.
Android O update- not officially disclosed but 8 will get (99.99%) and there are lot of confusion on 6X update but it should get (99.98% LOL).
Screen size- 5.2 of Honor 8 is much handy and easily carried in pocket than 6X but if you dont have issues with 5.5 inch screen.
Dual sim- your region may not have dual sim support (Indian variant has this issue)
Honor 8 was a upper mid range flagship level phone and 6X is excellent mid range model.
Rest your choice :good:
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By the time Honor 8 was released, it was a high end flagship level phone. But since OEMs are very quick, it is considered as mid-range now.
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Front camera of my Honor 6x has gone Amazing to Irritating after the nougat. Colour production in outer/natural lighting is fine but sucks in indoor and artificial lighting. It crazy brightens your face with really bad colour reproduction and overly exposed results. It has been an issue for many users and a thread was also raised on the Honor Community but got closed later. The last update BLN-L22C675B340 which said
about fixes like camera improvements and some optimizations. It did nothing good to the camera. Although, Ram management got better.
Does anybody know about how to fix this issue?
P.S: Front camera was awesome in marshmallow.
Rear Camera is good anyway.
Sadly, artificial light makes this camera bleed... on natural light everything is fine, but in my house for example, the camera works very blurry and without a focus, photos comes out kinda bad. Actually, stock camera apk on stock EMUI is the best that you can find around, since that at least it's synched with kernel sources... Third-party camera apps could never reach same results. Maybe try to write directly to Huawei CS (customer support) including your actual build number, in way that if they should read about this, they could provide a correction patch or at least make it better in next update released for your build.
ive seen camera specs both are 19 MP (f/2.0, 25mm, 1/2.3") so how come XZ2 has better quality?
ive seen a video comparison in low light, its not that the XZP is a lot worse or bad at all, but xz2 does seem to have a brighter video, more realistic with the light it captures through, plus when the guy zoomed in to the max the xz2 could maintain a lil more details, which is weird because both phones have the same camera...
Is sony planning on releasing a similar camera algorithms in the next update?
if not, is it possible to make our XZP camera look just as good as the XZ2? Since they both have the same camera.
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ive seen camera specs both are 19 MP (f/2.0, 25mm, 1/2.3") so how come XZ2 has better quality?
ive seen a video comparison in low light, its not that the XZP is a lot worse or bad at all, but xz2 does seem to have a brighter video, more realistic with the light it captures through, plus when the guy zoomed in to the max the xz2 could maintain a lil more details, which is weird because both phones have the same camera...
Is sony planning on releasing a similar camera algorithms in the next update?
if not, is it possible to make our XZP camera look just as good as the XZ2? Since they both have the same camera.
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The camera hardware is identical, the software isn't. Sony tuned the processing and algorythms a lot, the image quality difference in general is noticable, and in low light it's massive. Both still and video.
You can have the XZ2 camera app on the XZP, but you have to root it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/themes/camera-app-xz2-2-1-0-31-t3770138
I doubt Sony will update the XZ lineup with the new camera software, at least not soon, because they need to sell the XZ2 lineup, and the camera is a great selling point, if not the only one, compared to now a lot cheaper and still brilliant XZ1/XZP. Maybe we see some improvements in 8.1 or Android P, but I highly doubt it.
I was always amazed how rarily a company such as Sony updates the actual camera app on their phones, you'd think it would be a major focus feature.
I understand that it's not only the actual .apk that's different, probably some drivers as well and what not, but if the main hardware (and most of the surrounding hardware) is the same or similar, it shouldn't be a difficult thing to upgrade older devices.
I've asked Sony about this,still no answer. In the same mail I also asked them how come there is no option to lower the framerate of the slowmo video down from the 960FPS so that you could take longer slowmo videos. 960FPS is really cool, but almost unusable, let's face it, unless you plan the shot for half a day and everything is just perfect and still you won't get it the first time arround.
Not only has the same camera, but I'm pretty sure that the idiots from qualcomm just renamed the CPU flag as snapdragon 845 and enabled 4k60fps in drivers, which Sd835 is very capabile of. Also has 400 MHz more speed, bleah!