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After purchasing the Mi4c and waiting for it for three weeks, I keenly unboxed it and started tweaking the living hell out of it. Among others I installed several Google apps, the google account manager (switch off sync in China as it will draaaain your battery), and MIUI 5.10.16 dev. So far so good.
However, when I tried the camera, the online shots of which were very promising, I was so disappointed I ordered the Nexus 5X straight away. In any circumstance that isn't sunny, the rear-facing camera will perform horribly. What I mean is that, unless you stabilize the phone securely with two hands, any shot in a fluorescent light or otherwise slightly dim environment will result in heavy blur. As if you were shaking the phone while you took the shot. Comparing with the Nexus 5 (2013), where you could take a shot from your wrist while riding a bicycle and still have an acceptable result.
Can anyone else confirm? Do I have the worse of two sensors, is it just the tiny objective, or is it software-related? Or is it just what I should learn to accept from a 1500 RMB phone?
Hello mate,
this is what you should learn from a 1500 RMB phone, camera sux as soon as conditions are not optimum. Tried a lot of apps, but the results is still the same. Some apps will focus better though (lenovo super camera v5 for instance).
Nevertheless, a part from the camera, the phone is way better with CM12.1 than the nexus 5X which handle apps horribly again... Very slow to open and reload apps. Which is kind of a big deal.
upload some pics if possible..
let's see it...
Maybe the camera app just sucks hard? You should try others to compare...
These are all shot from the wrist with minimal effort at stabilizing, the way I used to snap pictures with my Nexus 5
Try to take a few indoor shots with a steady hand. It could be that the software uses a quite long shutter time, which results in a blurry shot if the hand isn't steady.
The second step would be: manually set the shutter time according to your preference.
Sure, steadying the phone entirely will work. But that's not really a solution, as you often take a quick snap, the device is light and therefore in almost all situations your hand will be unsteady. It felt like the nexus5 was able to use shorter shutter times in low-light conditions and took steady pictures almost all of the time.
potentially a software problem; after flashing CM Rom the camera improved significantly (also switched from N5 to 4C)
agreed, it got significantly better with the CM rom. Still fairly noisy and a little blurry though. Looks like the camera app (I use Google Camera 4.0) actually takes its time to focus rather than attempting to deliver the quickest shot possible.
bluppfisk said:
agreed, it got significantly better with the CM rom. Still fairly noisy and a little blurry though. Looks like the camera app (I use Google Camera 4.0) actually takes its time to focus rather than attempting to deliver the quickest shot possible.
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Can you check which sensor you have please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/camera-sensor-sony-samsung-t3213510/page4
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Can you check which sensor you have please
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/camera-sensor-sony-samsung-t3213510/page4
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He already has, yesterday
Maybe we can have some more samples from another camera app ? We know you have the Sony sensor now, it could be interesting to see if someone has a Samsung one and how is it different in picture quality.
Here are some, as your see low light ones aren't very good and blurred. But even the sunlight ones are a little grainy and not perfectly crisp. Sony sensor.
bluppfisk said:
Here are some, as your see low light ones aren't very good and blurred. But even the sunlight ones are a little grainy and not perfectly crisp. Sony sensor.
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Ok thanks ! And this is with the MIUI app ?
No the last batch was with CM
I created a post on official eu.xiaomi.com about this bug, if you can, please, confim in "bug" section of xiaomi mi4c
link?
http://en.miui.com/thread-180040-1-1.html
Inviato dal mio Mi-4c utilizzando Tapatalk
So, i'm really very confused now... someone says it is very great (e.g. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63730763&postcount=44) and you say it is bad and open a bug!
I would prefer great camera and battery over LTE band 20, but here i don't understand yet if mi4c have or not great camera... Can you please help me understand? Thanks
Well... Depends by user.. 50% say camera is awesome 50% not - You can see something like this on many phones
Hello, so I been using this phone for few weeks, and now I gave up. Camera quality is terrible, only close and with flash shots are okay. But even outside, little bit further it comes blurry. What's the problem? Third (3) photo is looking great with flash outside. Second photo is blurry, if just zoom little bit.. Others without flash just look's terrible, and I don't know what's the problem...
itsignas said:
Hello, so I been using this phone for few weeks, and now I gave up. Camera quality is terrible, only close and with flash shots are okay. But even outside, little bit further it comes blurry. What's the problem? First photo is looking great with flash outside. Second photo is blurry too, if just zoom little bit.. Others without flash just look's terrible, and I don't know what's the problem...
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The Mi4c camera seems to be on par with most other midrange Chinese phones. Coming from a Nexus 5, everything about this phone is an upgrade, except the camera - which is a shame because it's not like the N5 had the best camera ever - but it was still better under most conditions than the Mi4c
So this is normal? I mean only close shots are fine, right?
Mi 4C actually has better image quality than most phones at the same price range. But admittedly its auto-focus is a bit problematic. Your photos seems to be the problem of auto-focus as well. My Mi 4C produces very good photos (close or far objects) when focused correctly.
If you are using Snapdragon Camera, try disabling Zero Shutter Lag (press Red Eye Reduction a couple of times to enable developer options).
I have miui 8, and it's stock camera, may you know where to get snapdragon camera? Thanks
Okay, front camera looks like painted if little bit zoomed in. It is because im not using snapdragon camera?
itsignas said:
Okay, I took selfie, and front camera looks like painted if little bit zoomed in. It is because im not using snapdragon camera?
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That's normal. You shouldn't zoom in with a phone camera because there is no optical zooming. Zooming in on a phone is like enlarging a photo on your computer. Of course it will look painted. It's not because you are not using Snapdragon Camera.
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itsignas said:
I have miui 8, and it's stock camera, may you know where to get snapdragon camera? Thanks
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Snapdragon Camera is the default camera in CM13. It's OK if you don't have it.
Try these steps to see if you can take a decent photo:
1. Find an outdoor place with bright sunlight
2. Hold your camera very steadily (find something to support, like a table, light pole, etc)
3. Press the screen to focus
4. Press the shutter button lightly (to reduce camera shake)
The Zero Shutter Lag function keeps making the photo blurry for some reason. I don't know if there is Zero Shutter Lag function in MiUI camera, or whether it can be disabled. If everything fails, try another camera app.
Calebz said:
The Mi4c camera seems to be on par with most other midrange Chinese phones. Coming from a Nexus 5, everything about this phone is an upgrade, except the camera - which is a shame because it's not like the N5 had the best camera ever - but it was still better under most conditions than the Mi4c
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My Mi4c takes way better photos than my N5 ever did. That was one of the worst cameras I ever owned.
Karly Johnston said:
My Mi4c takes way better photos than my N5 ever did. That was one of the worst cameras I ever owned.
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Interesting. I find with the Mi4c that the pictures come out ok only if taken in full daylight and the subject is perfectly still. The N5 camera captures objects in motion. For example, my 2 year old splashing in the pool. The Mi4c will show the pool and surroundings well enough, but the kid and the water splashes are just a blur. The N5 will capture the kid in motion and even the individual drops of water.
I admit, that on release in 2013 , the N5 camera was a bit of a potato, but subsequent updates to Google camera turned it into a relatively decent shooter.
Calebz said:
Interesting. I find with the Mi4c that the pictures come out ok only if taken in full daylight and the subject is perfectly still. The N5 camera captures objects in motion. For example, my 2 year old splashing in the pool. The Mi4c will show the pool and surroundings well enough, but the kid and the water splashes are just a blur. The N5 will capture the kid in motion and even the individual drops of water.
I admit, that on release in 2013 , the N5 camera was a bit of a potato, but subsequent updates to Google camera turned it into a relatively decent shooter.
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So use Google camera. I get better focus from it, not to mention 4k.
Karly Johnston said:
So use Google camera. I get better focus from it, not to mention 4k.
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Which ROM are you using? I'm on TSCM 13.1 and Google camera doesn't seem to work well.. at least not the version I had on the phone (3.2 I think)
Calebz said:
Which ROM are you using? I'm on TSCM 13.1 and Google camera doesn't seem to work well.. at least not the version I had on the phone (3.2 I think)
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sMiUI, it required a fix to enable HDR but no problems sense.
Calebz said:
Interesting. I find with the Mi4c that the pictures come out ok only if taken in full daylight and the subject is perfectly still. The N5 camera captures objects in motion. For example, my 2 year old splashing in the pool. The Mi4c will show the pool and surroundings well enough, but the kid and the water splashes are just a blur. The N5 will capture the kid in motion and even the individual drops of water.
I admit, that on release in 2013 , the N5 camera was a bit of a potato, but subsequent updates to Google camera turned it into a relatively decent shooter.
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The difference between N5 and Mi4C that you mentioned is probably due to the difference in lighting conditions. When you took the photo with N5, you were likely under very bright sunlight so the camera used a fast shutter speed (e.g. 1/500s), freezing everything in the frame. When you took the photo with Mi4C, you might be under weaker sunlight (e.g. overcast) so the camera used a slower shutter speed (e.g. 1/50s), so everything that was staying still appeared sharp and everything that was moving (your kid and the water splash) appeared blurry.
If you still have your N5, try both phones under the same lighting condition. I think Mi4C will give better results. If Mi4C still gives blurry shots in good lighting, try manually setting a high ISO value (e.g. ISO1600) to force the camera to use a fast shutter speed.
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Calebz said:
Which ROM are you using? I'm on TSCM 13.1 and Google camera doesn't seem to work well.. at least not the version I had on the phone (3.2 I think)
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Google Camera doesn't work well on CM13. There is probably no fix for that. I think Snapdragon Camera (the default camera in CM13) is very good, despite its slightly inconvenient UI.
legacyofthevoid said:
The difference between N5 and Mi4C that you mentioned is probably due to the difference in lighting conditions. When you took the photo with N5, you were likely under very bright sunlight so the camera used a fast shutter speed (e.g. 1/500s), freezing everything in the frame. When you took the photo with Mi4C, you might be under weaker sunlight (e.g. overcast) so the camera used a slower shutter speed (e.g. 1/50s), so everything that was staying still appeared sharp and everything that was moving (your kid and the water splash) appeared blurry.
If you still have your N5, try both phones under the same lighting condition. I think Mi4C will give better results. If Mi4C still gives blurry shots in good lighting, try manually setting a high ISO value (e.g. ISO1600) to force the camera to use a fast shutter speed.
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Google Camera doesn't work well on CM13. There is probably no fix for that. I think Snapdragon Camera (the default camera in CM13) is very good, despite its slightly inconvenient UI.
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Unfortunately, it wasn't a difference in conditions. I had one phone in each hand in full daylight.
By no means am I suggesting that the N5 is the best camera in the world, or that the Mi4c is terrible. The Mi4c clearly smokes the N5 in terms of how long it takea to start the camera, how fast it can take pictures (though using HDR, it's probably a wash), and ability to focus on still objects at much closer range.
I read as widely as I could when looking for a new phone and overall am still eminently pleased with my choice. I just wish for once that a professional reviewer would take into account the idea that sometimes people take pictures of living things that move instead of just trees, random buildings or the crap on their desks :lol:
Calebz said:
Unfortunately, it wasn't a difference in conditions. I had one phone in each hand in full daylight.
By no means am I suggesting that the N5 is the best camera in the world, or that the Mi4c is terrible. The Mi4c clearly smokes the N5 in terms of how long it takea to start the camera, how fast it can take pictures (though using HDR, it's probably a wash), and ability to focus on still objects at much closer range.
I read as widely as I could when looking for a new phone and overall am still eminently pleased with my choice. I just wish for once that a professional reviewer would take into account the idea that sometimes people take pictures of living things that move instead of just trees, random buildings or the crap on their desks :lol:
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If the lighting condition is the same, it's probably the difference in algorithm in exposure calculation that causes the difference. Try using a high ISO on Mi4C, or switch to "Sports Mode" (if any). Maybe that'll help.
Post samples, it's very possible that your unit has a faulty lens.
Gabbbbbbb said:
Post samples, it's very possible that your unit has a faulty lens.
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Added.
I still think it is the problem of focus.
When the camera focuses correctly, everything in the frame is very sharp:
But when the camera screws up the focus (which happens quite often), then the photo becomes blurry like the one you have shown:
Your last 2 samples look like serious lens decentering, but then before the decentering seems to be on the other side. Almost as if a lens element, or an element group is lose.
Alright, I took few more photos few days ago. Last photo looks very sharp, maybe good focused, but that was hell a pain. Almost every photo is out of focus then. Only that looks fine, and close shots while steady.. It's kinda really hard to get focused shot even steady.
Hi guys,
I appreciate that this is a specific Mix 2 question but couldnt see a mix 2 section yet to post in.
I recieved my Mix 2 about a week ago and my first impressions are that its a great phone - it does everything I want....... apart from when it comes to the cameras.
Firstly, the quality is pretty bad and a large step back from the oppo find 7 I am switching from. Both front and rear facing cameras fail to properly focus and always seem to take photos like there is a dirty lens, a sort of soft look, most obvious when photographing text, which just isnt sharp at all.
Secondly, it appears that the second rear facing camera doesn't do anything - is it even real?!? I believe its there for the optical zoom option, but even when you zoom in with the camera app, you can still cover this camera and it has no effect on the photo, therefore it is not used.
Any ideas on how to improve the picture quality? I presume its going to be a case of waiting for Doogee or some developers to take this device on to update the firmware......
Thanks
joeyjoejoe206 said:
Hi guys,
I appreciate that this is a specific Mix 2 question but couldnt see a mix 2 section yet to post in.
I recieved my Mix 2 about a week ago and my first impressions are that its a great phone - it does everything I want....... apart from when it comes to the cameras.
Firstly, the quality is pretty bad and a large step back from the oppo find 7 I am switching from. Both front and rear facing cameras fail to properly focus and always seem to take photos like there is a dirty lens, a sort of soft look, most obvious when photographing text, which just isnt sharp at all.
Secondly, it appears that the second rear facing camera doesn't do anything - is it even real?!? I believe its there for the optical zoom option, but even when you zoom in with the camera app, you can still cover this camera and it has no effect on the photo, therefore it is not used.
Any ideas on how to improve the picture quality? I presume its going to be a case of waiting for Doogee or some developers to take this device on to update the firmware......
Thanks
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A new update of the firmware is being "cooked" to solve this problem.
I know that will be released soon.
AlexCode said:
A new update of the firmware is being "cooked" to solve this problem.
I know that will be released soon.
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It would be great... Camera performance is the main issue of the device. On the other hand, all the other features are quite well
Sorry to put this query here. Even i haven't got any place to right it down. I also have a same problem. Rear camera not working. Bought this phone specially for camera specifications. When will be the updates release to make the second rear camera work. Even 8 MP Nokia camera takes better picture than this 16 MP. And there are many bugs. Many apps crashes. And on YouTube I have seen many videos which shows many camera app showing 4k video recording option, but I think that was after update and I still haven't received it.i show that video 1 month back.
New update from company has improved the camera lil bit. But still not a usable one. And it keeps on hunting for focus in video.
From morning all Google apps are getting closed by itself. Please help to solve the issue in mix 2
no updates have improved the camera on this phone for me so far. Taking photos of static images is ok - maybe 6/10, if I use whatsapp to take a photo of anything it always appears very soft and a little blurred. If I try to take a photo of my cat.....no chance, the shutter is so slow, unless the object doesnt move at all you cant capture the image. I do like the phone and previously havent been bothered about camera specs, but that was when all my previous phones could take decent pictures. This might be the reason I get rid of this phone in a few months, it turns out a decent camera is a must for me - I was spoilt with my Oppo find 7, which had an incredible camera
joeyjoejoe206 said:
no updates have improved the camera on this phone for me so far. Taking photos of static images is ok - maybe 6/10, if I use whatsapp to take a photo of anything it always appears very soft and a little blurred. If I try to take a photo of my cat.....no chance, the shutter is so slow, unless the object doesnt move at all you cant capture the image. I do like the phone and previously havent been bothered about camera specs, but that was when all my previous phones could take decent pictures. This might be the reason I get rid of this phone in a few months, it turns out a decent camera is a must for me - I was spoilt with my Oppo find 7, which had an incredible camera
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+1 about camera perfrmance, i bought it to do a review and the camera is the worst thing in an otherwise decent phone. I did a comparison with the honor 7x, which has a much better camera at the same price.
Hdr+
Hallo guys, there isn't a procedure to flash Google camera hdr+ on this smartphone o mediatek CPU. I founded everything for Qualcomm but nothing to mediatek.
Hello,
A few weeks ago I've upgraded to EMUI 9.0.0.
The camera with EMUI 8 performed incredibly good, except for a few crashes when making extra long exposure shots.
Since the EMUI 9 upgrade I recognized several issues and drawbacks compared to EMUI 8.
1. To get the same nice colors and lights, I need to enable "AI", but at the same time this makes the camera much slowlier with shooting. Which makes it unusable for quick snapshots of moving targets.
2. Once in AI mode the picture resolution cannot be changed anymore. It only allows for full resolution. I loved the 18:9 format.
3. OIS seems to work way worse (or not at all) in AI mode. Maybe this is correlated to the previous topic, that full resolution is chosen automatically in AI mode. Having a final pic of full resolution I think it would leave no margins for OIS. For sure with EMUI 9 it is much harder to get clear shots.
4. Panorama mode: Pictures are almost impossible to get them sharp and several times the panorama shot was not able to be stopped/completed. Instead the app had to be closed and the panorama repeated.
Did anyone else experience similar behavior and/or has a solution to it? I'm already thinking about downgrading to EMUI 8 as for the bad performance of the camera app.
Thanks for any inputs!
IKR. I am experiencing the same thing. Quality of photos has reduced a lot and face unlock is slower.
I made similar observations concerning reduced photo quality over the course of updates for my Huawei Mate 9. It took me several downgrade attempts with different firmware releases to get it back to the photo quality it delivered when it was new.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75034023&postcount=242
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=78311258&postcount=46
One could be forgiven for thinking that they do it intentionally to push their new models.
I have heard others complain.
I don't think the quality changed on mine
C675 b190.
Here's a picture of my week old kittens
Looks good to me.. But then I don't expect professional quality from a cell phone.
They make specific cameras for that.
This is so sweet. I love taking photos of my 6 years old tomcat Louis too. But I have to be quick, he is always sceptical about it ;-
Though your sample looks really cute it should definitely be sharper. Your phone is capable of taking photographs with amazing technical quality, in good lightning conditions often regardless of its firmware, but then again your sample picture could have suffered from the forums compression during upload.
itsjustmeagain said:
This is so sweet. I love taking photos of my 6 years old tomcat Louis too. But I have to be quick, he is always sceptical about it ;-
Though your sample looks really cute it should definitely be sharper. Your phone is capable of taking photographs with amazing technical quality, in good lightning conditions often regardless of its firmware, but then again your sample picture could have suffered from the forums compression during upload.
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Facebook does the same.. All my photos.. Even with quick shot.. Volume shutter.. Pictures come out good.
Night shots.. Yeah they suck
Not being.. Ya know
But Asians putting out bad cameras?
Got to be trolling.
Anyway, I decided not to update my Honor View 10 anymore to avoid the risk of quality degradation as I experienced with my Mate 9.
Btw. It is interesting seeing a phone camera perform without the bells an wistles of the vendor software optimizations. Just try any other camera app.
Ok, guys, since it's a very important topic, one of the pros of this device and what it is advertised for, I feel the need and obligation to speak about the front camera ridiculous noiseness, blurriness and inability to focus.
Alright, I won't even bother with the mighty rear cameras because there's enough fuss about them. What I noticed clearly is about the front. Dude, this camera configuration by the date is horrid. I say configuration because, thank god, it seems to be a software error.
In low light, the front camera is simply a wreck full of noise. And what is most is that I noticed that because I've came from the g7 plus, which had a great front camera, recording 4k. And even without using 4k on that one, I noticed the bad quality of the g8 plus HD one. I don't want to mention that bad adjusting to light conditions, too.
Now, after downloading Gcam and testing it, it seemed to get rid of substancial noise, but not too good.
I hope you guys noticed this too and we get reedeemed by a future update on this crap. It seems software problem
We need custom roms.