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Love this tablet but this last few days it has started to get really warm on occasion.
On the left side, about an inch in from the SD card slot, the temperature really builds up quickly starting first on the back of the device and eventually getting so hot on the glass it becomes uncomfortable to hold and to swipe. I've seen 48 degrees!
I have noticed this happening when using Dolphin HD browser and particularly if Skype is running in the background.
I wiped the tab, didn't reinstall from market and just loaded Dolphin and it didn't make any difference.
I'm guessing faulty device since there are only a few isolated reports of this online.
FloridaPhil said:
Love this tablet but this last few days it has started to get really warm on occasion.
On the left side, about an inch in from the SD card slot, the temperature really builds up quickly starting first on the back of the device and eventually getting so hot on the glass it becomes uncomfortable to hold and to swipe. I've seen 48 degrees!
I have noticed this happening when using Dolphin HD browser and particularly if Skype is running in the background.
I wiped the tab, didn't reinstall from market and just loaded Dolphin and it didn't make any difference.
I'm guessing faulty device since there are only a few isolated reports of this online.
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Really strange, Phil. Based on your recommendation in "other" forums I turned in my Nook Tab and got a GTab7Plus and I'm just lovin it. Does everything I'd hoped it would do and more I haven't even figured out. So far, (knock on wood) I haven't gotten the Screen of Death nor has the unit gotten hot for any reason and I'm using dolphin browser exclusively. So......you may have a defective unit. Good luck.
Yeah, I think it was faulty. I took it back to Best Buy and they had not had any other returns for this issue.
Unfortunately they are also out of stock so I don't currently have a tablet at all! Seeing what is coming down the pike in the way of tablets I might just wait and see what transpires in the next 3 months. If I get antsy then I'll just pick up another GT7+ (or back to a Nook Tablet if the CM9 project advances quickly).
Also, do you see a color cast on yours at all? I noticed that when there was a white background, for instance reading a book on Kindle or Nook apps, the right lower side of the page had a warm tinge - pink/peach colored. It was quite irritating.
Having issues with Nook app opening my Nook ebooks.
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Yeah, I think it was faulty. I took it back to Best Buy and they had not had any other returns for this issue.
Unfortunately they are also out of stock so I don't currently have a tablet at all! Seeing what is coming down the pike in the way of tablets I might just wait and see what transpires in the next 3 months. If I get antsy then I'll just pick up another GT7+ (or back to a Nook Tablet if the CM9 project advances quickly).
Also, do you see a color cast on yours at all? I noticed that when there was a white background, for instance reading a book on Kindle or Nook apps, the right lower side of the page had a warm tinge - pink/peach colored. It was quite irritating.
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FloridaPhil:
I have received my 7+ and downloaded and installed the Nook and Kindle apps without a hitch. The Kindle books are fine but I seem to be having a problem opening my Nook books. Darn, I am in the midst of a great book and hate reading on my phone.
Any tips on how best to install and manage my Nook ebooks? And, I have a 32gb sd card which I haven't installed but plan to tonight. Will that make a difference? Should I "format" the card before installing on the 7+? How does that work?
Thanks a bunch!
I noticed on the nook software that I needed to open the software and then reopen it before the book would load. Second time is a charm I guess.
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Mine as well, in the same location as you specified too. Gets damn hot in that location with I'm using it in the car for navigating with Google Maps and it's plugged into the charger. Also in the same scenario the charge level is still going down and not up
I' ve been using VTL Launcher and had some previous issues with my home wifi (couldn't reconnect so my tab was always trying to find it again and again). After resetting router and mainly uninstalling VTL Launcher my tab stopped to be hot and battery life increased rapidly. So I was almost decided tonreturn it due to this problems but since then everything is finally ok and start to enjoy this tab (previously had GT7 original and Note).
Regarding navigation with google maps- consider that there is also huge use of data amount so warmness is probable. I'm using Sygis Aura and has no problems with hottness and also not original car charger has enough power to charge on the roads.
So far haven't noticed the tab getting hot. Just trying to figure out how to use Kies. What a friggin nightmare! Why have they not simplified the Kies interface? It is so convoluted!
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I' ve been using VTL Launcher and had some previous issues with my home wifi (couldn't reconnect so my tab was always trying to find it again and again). After resetting router and mainly uninstalling VTL Launcher my tab stopped to be hot and battery life increased rapidly. So I was almost decided tonreturn it due to this problems but since then everything is finally ok and start to enjoy this tab (previously had GT7 original and Note).
Regarding navigation with google maps- consider that there is also huge use of data amount so warmness is probable. I'm using Sygis Aura and has no problems with hottness and also not original car charger has enough power to charge on the roads.
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Interesting - but mine was totally stock. Yeah, I had added a ton of apps but it was running regular TouchWizz. My little Nook Color running CM7 has exactly the same apps and doesn't even get warm.
what are you using kies for? my computer (win 7) didn't recognize my tab until
i installed kies, it also installed drivers so i can now transfer files
To FloridaPhil: And how long is your battery life? Is wifi ok? Well I' ve noticed then, that our tab doesn't have still very apropriate task managing and this can be causeb exactly by this. Take a look in settings, applications and battery use...I couldn't believa my eyes but even I'm using good task manager with automatic shutndowns of slected apps, there are still huge amount of running apps that drain battery and may cause getting hot. Next thing as well was a fact, that even when wifi connection held perfectly, there was still word 'searching' each couple of seconds (take a look in wifinsettings...)- so next possible reason for getting warm...
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Next thing as well was a fact, that even when wifi connection held perfectly, there was still word 'searching' each couple of seconds (take a look in wifinsettings...)- so next possible reason for getting warm...
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It's only searching because your at the wifi settings screen. If you are at the screen where different wifi networks can be selected, android (logically) thinks you might want to select a different network, so scans. If you STAY on that screen, it assumes you want to keep scanning (why else would you stay on that screen?)
This is something that all wifi enabled android devices do. It's NOT scanning every few seconds if you aren't on that specific settings screen...
Gary
Thanks Gary for reasonable explanation, yes this is logical. I was just confused from this, cause not Galaxy Note, nor previous Tab or Streak was behaving like this. But is true that this is my first honeycomb machine and I may not realise this before or it had been different in settings.
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I was just confused from this, cause not Galaxy Note, nor previous Tab or Streak was behaving like this
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My Galaxy SII (gingerbread, AT&T, SGH-I777) does this as well. Even my iPhone does it.
I'm using Kies Air to wirelessly transfer and synch my contacts, calendar, etc....... Experimented and have transferred photos and some other files. Also worked using the USB cable and my Windows 7 recognized and installed drivers. It recognized the SD card as my E drive.
Regarding the heating up issue, so far I have not experienced this. The battery use is under control when I turn off all wireless when I leave my home.
Getting used to the Touchwiz interface but I also installed Go Launcher EX and use that sometimes.
Video playback is awesome on this little tab; last night I was watching movie trailers and was surprised with the sound as well. The Nook's sound was always a bit weak.
I installed an anti-glare screen film and it is awesome for reading. Doesn't detract from the beautiful display and the fonts are crisp.
Regarding opening my Nook books I realized that it worked as soon as I installed my SD card and I downloaded my books so I wouldn't have to deal with having a wireless connection to read my books.
Playing around with the wallpapers and customizing the Samsung screens and installed a super cool "steam punk skull" live wallpaper and it is amazing! Found it free via the Amazon app store....it is fantastic! I also found other beautiful live wallpapers via the Amazon app store including snow scenes.
The tab connected flawlessly to my Samsung Galaxy 4G T-Mobile phone's access point and used that to stream Pandora and download some Kindle books. It was done in my office which doesn't have the best T-Mobile network access and it was surprisingly fast and smooth. No stuttering of the music and emails and Facebook worked great.
I ordered the 6' long usb cable for the tab via Amazon and it has shipped; hopefully it is well matched and charges up the tab just as well as the stock 3' shortie cable. I noted other comments regarding the slow charging of the tab and found that turning off the wifi or simply shutting it down speeds up the charging dramatically.
So that is my report so far and let me say I am enjoying the 7+ tab immensely.
It got to 40C (104F) today while I was playing GTA. The device it's naked (no covers or anything). I'm going to take it to service centre next week :-(
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It got to 40C (104F) today while I was playing GTA. The device it's naked (no covers or anything). I'm going to take it to service centre next week :-(
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Well i guess thats pretty normal, mine goes up to 42C sometimes.. I guess it depends on your surrounding and climate.
You sure it's a normal thing (this temperature range)? I'm here in Thailand so the ambient temperature is hot to begin with, but the thing is; with prolonged used my hands get uncomfortable.
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You sure it's a normal thing (this temperature range)? I'm here in Thailand so the ambient temperature is hot to begin with, but the thing is; with prolonged used my hands get uncomfortable.
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So far im still comfortable with it and its not much of a problem to me, im using a case together with it so i cant really feel the heat.. You could try taking it in to where you bought it and see what they have to say ;D
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So far im still comfortable with it nd its not much of a problem to me, im using a case together with it so i cant really feel the heat.. You could try taking it in to where you bought it and see what they have to say ;D
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Just told my wife, she said her galaxy s2 gets hot as well, so I asked her to touch mine ;-)
She says it's about the same. So i really don't know what to think any more, but I'll take it in anyways just for peace of mind.
Hey guys, I just received my Pipo M6 today so I thought I'd offer my experience so far. Keep in mind that I am coming from an iPad mini and my daily driver is a HTC One X running Cyanogenmod 10.1.
Build Quality:
TBH, I was hoping for something a little better after reading some user reviews. It's still quite good overall but there's just a few too many seams and the edges are a little rough at certain points. Nothing major but it just feels like a made and designed in China product. It doesn't bother me so much though since I won't notice it after putting it in a case.
I was glad to find that underneath the temporary screen protector which comes with all new products these days, there was another one underneath it which means you won't need to bother with putting on one yourself.
Screen:
VERY pretty. Viewing angles are good and colours really pop. Brightness level is amazing and will surely be sufficient even if you are in the dessert. In terms of resolution, you can set it to HD mode or Normal which requires a restart. I couldn't really notice any differences although I might if I had another one sitting side by side. Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
User Interface:
As you may know, you have the choice of using the standard Jelly Bean interface or the special Pipo interface which makes everything look a bit like Windows 8. I chose to go with the latter. Everything is quite smooth although perhaps not quite as flawless as my iPad mini but with Android devices, I've come to accept that.
I really like where they're going with this interface although there are some definite rough edges. It comes preloaded with 5 home screens labeled: Home, Media, Apps, Office and Web. These can not be removed. Within each, there are some widgets which corresponds to their respective headings. These widgets cannot be changed or removed. The other objects that cannot be changed or removed are the boxes ala Windows 8 which are predetermined to be either editable shortcuts or folders. I find this a bit annoying because sometimes I don't need so many folders and would prefer to just launch an app immediately when I tap it. You can add more homescreens and name them how you like but you can't change their colour or the types of boxes they contain. Overall, it all looks very nice but needs to be more customisable.
Performance:
I haven't had a chance to install any games yet but so far the "feel" of the device seems very solid. I do have a problem when trying to install N.O.V.A. 3, i can't even find it in the Google Play Store. After finding it through Google, it says that my device cannot support it. I don't get it. My One X can install this game and it's far below the specs of the M6. If anyone can let me know why this is, I can install it and let you know how it performs.
Battery Life:
When I opened the box, it was already switched on and showed that it had been running on battery for about 28 hours (so it was probably opened by customs since it was posted out a week ago). Since then I've had the screen almost constantly on doing various things for the last 5 hours and it still has 40% juice left. Pretty good then!
Conclusion:
Overall, I'm quite happy. It has some small niggles but then it was pretty cheap. For the people who are worried that the RK3188 can't handle a retina display, I think you can relax. Everything runs smoothly enough. Plus, if you really prefer a lower resolution, you can change it in the settings to conserve battery life and increase performance. It beats having an M7, M8 or M9 purely because they have much smaller batteries. The 2x5000 mAh battery in the M6 was designed for the retina screen so if you use the normal resolution, it would wipe the competition clean.
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Only thing is, I used both AnTuTu and Android System Info to find out the resolution and there seem to be some discrepancies.
Under HD Mode, both apps reported a resolution of 1536x1952 with 320dpi. Now that's still within Retina level territory but they were advertising 2048x1536. Not a huge difference I know but still a little annoying.
At Normal Mode, AnTuTu reported 1600x1128 and Android System info reported 1200x1528. Not sure why the two differed but the difference is negligible when you do the math.
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This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.
Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
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This is normal. Physically, the screen resolution is 2048x1536. The bottom of the screen is allocated for soft buttons, hence you get smaller vertical resolution available to apps.
Do a test - change the tablet orientation, and check the resolution again.
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Ahh i see, that makes sense. I never owned a device without physical or capacitive buttons so it didn't occur to me.
andbroe said:
Thank you for this comprehensive review. I myself also own a M6 3g and can mostly agree with your points. I myself think the build quality is quite good. No gaps or loose buttons.
Sent from my JB 4.2.2 powered HTC Desire using Tapatalk
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Yeah I think it's also not bad. I wouldn't really call them gaps, but the seam that runs around the edge of the device definitely doesn't look consistent on my machine; some parts look a tiny fraction wider than the rest. Maybe you had better luck. bBy the way, do you have any idea why the Google Play Store won't let me download N.O.V.A. 3? I'm sure the specs are enough since even my HTC One X running a Tegra 3 can download it. Only thing I can think off is that the internal storage doesn't have enough space but then shouldn't it download into the NAND Flash? I have plenty of space there.
UPDATE: Been spending some more time with it. I am liking it less now that it's frozen up twice (both times requiring a hard reset by sticking a little needle in the small hole next to the back camera - didn't lose anything though). Also, I have a few apps that force the tablet into a vertical orientation and every time, they would force it into an upside down position (where the power button would be on the bottom as well as the front camera). I guess this indicates that the tablet's natural position is contrary to its physical design. I find this quite annoying to be honest and should hopefully be easily fixable with a firmware update. I hope they get on it! God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.
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God I wish I can install Cyanogenmod on this.
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
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About the freezing. It happened also to me. Once even during a cold boot! But I am confident it is only a software problem. Maybe one day, when some of the excellent developers of XDA - developer take care of this baby we will get Cyanogenmod.
For the meantime I run RileyROM 1.2 (rooted and cleaned up, based on latest ROM from Pipo) and that works quite good.
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Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?
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Thanks for the tip! So you didn't encounter any more problems after installing this rom?
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Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
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Another m6 user here also with a one x...
I also had the few freezes but since stopping using chrome, which runs like a dog anyway on this, it hasn't done it. Mines rooted and using the late June firmware. Only issue I've had other than that is a battery hiccup where it went from 65% to 13% in minutes and then back to 65% when the charger was plugged in. I have since ran it dead charged to 100% and calibrated the battery. The battery also doesn't have the correct MV reported
Other than that fast smooth even in retina mode and decent build. Can't find a hw 4k player yet tho like the a31
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Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?
I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.
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Yeah the first time it froze on me, I was also using Chrome. Can't remember what I was doing the second time. Anyways, I'm using the default browser now which suits me fine. Whats the difference between that and chrome anyway? i dont think ive had any issues with the battery although it did go from 14% to 4% awfully quick earlier. What do you mean the battery doesnt have the correct MV? Do you mean its not 10,000 mAh as advertised? How do you check that by the way?
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On mine which is on the SDK2 firmware - there is a big difference with chrome and the stock browsers - chrome is massively laggy, freezes, stutters and is generally rubbish. Stock browser is fast and smooth. The only issue I have is not being able to scroll down on translated pages (htcmania) but change of orientation solves that..
regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
Steve
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I've been testing the more recent chinese builds (#17 is the latest one I've used) and have had no issues with Chrome or games. They apparently use the new Rockchip SDK 2.0, but I'm hoping we'll see these integrate the latest Mali drivers in the future. You can find the latest releases (currently #20) here http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 and if you don't want it in chinese, you should use the Rockchipfirmware kitchen to debloat and modify it. There are no changelogs included with these ROMs though, so you'll be flying blind.
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Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
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regarding the mV issue, I am using GSam battery monitor and it reports the voltage as being 7mV
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Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.
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Hmm that all sounds a bit too complicated for me. I went through quite a bit of trouble trying to put Cyanogenmod on my One X even with so many instructions available out there. Dont know if I can handle installing a ROM on a device that's not so commonly supported.
Hmm well when I use Android System Info, it says my battery is 8mV. Does that mean its 8000mAh? If so then I'm gonna be a bitnpissed coz the whole reason chose the M6 over the M7 was because the battery. I actually prefer a slightly smaller tablet.
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No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
Thanks
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No voltage and current are different. eg a USB port outputs 5v (5000mV) at 500mA (or 0.5A)
Updating firmware on this is easy.. you use software on the PC to upload and flash.. the only panic I had was a very very long boot time the first time while it updates, I thought I had broken it. I was surprised how painless it was.
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Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?
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Well I think I can flash it since they provided the instructions themselves and I found some other instructions online but when matnl mentioned debloating and modifying the ROM to make it English, that worried me. Do you think it's really worth it? Did u notice a big performance increase?
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Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
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Mine was supplied with the pre SDK2 firmware, and it was a big difference going to the SDK2.0 firmware. I didnt debloat at all, I installed the one that said english, it booted in chinese, so i had to work my way through to changing the language to english. On first boot i opted for standard jellybean launcher and then installed apex for a bit of customisability. there didnt look like too much in the way of chinese apps and bloat?
Rooting was easy as there is a batch file on Htcmania that does it for you.
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I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
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I just did the debloat bit because otherwise you're stuck with apps in chinese which are difficult to remove. But as Steve said, it's fairly simple to figure out how to switch the UI to english or anything you like once you've installed the ROM. Like Steve, I also use Apex Launcher rather than the Pipo one.
Another thing I did was use a different parameter file so that I have 4GB of user space rather than the standard 2GB. But this probably is beyond the scope of this thread.
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Alright, my M6 froze again today whilst using Pulse so I think I've had enough. I'm gonna try to flash it with a rom. A couple of questions first. How can I check which SDK I'm on? It says my Kernel version is 3.0.36+ from June 25th. Does that mean I'm on SDK2.0 already since it's the latest?
Anyways, I don't wanna bother anyone here with writing out a full instructional so can someone please just confirm that all I need to do is follow this guide: http://www.freak-tab.de/rrileypm/First Time User Guide_pr0_rev5.pdf Of course, instead of using the RileyROM 1.2, I will use the M6 4.2.2 #20 from http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=1946954351 . Also, why are there two files with the same name there? One uploaded on the 13th and one on the 15th of July? Thanks alot guys!
i already posted this to other threads
i bought my pipo m6 a week ago.. so far so bad!.. first off, i got a dirt INSIDE the screen, i was forced to remove the screen guard to see if its not a dirt in between the screen and the screen guard. unfortunately its inside the screen so there's no way of removing it without opening the whole system.. 2nd, im experiencing lags and forced close, QUAD CORE? 2GB RAM? what the!! my friends dual core phone is much better! mine doesnt even have to many apps yet. 3rd, i tried to play 1080 movies, mp4, it lags and crashes at me. aside from all this disappointing experience PIPO luncher form time to time force closes. another worse experience is that i experience FREEZE UP. the whole system froze while browsing facebook, for 20 minutes, all hardware buttons, touchscreen are not responding. i was forced to reset it via the little whole at the back of the device....i already updated to the 6/26 firmware release... but still getting the same issues. battery was good YES. but performance was disappointing. NOT TO MENTION the other users who comment about the SPEAKER! GOD! speaker sucks! based on a video i watched it was loud! but my SONY NEO V is way better! i hope that there is a FIRMWARE FIX to all this! except ofcourse about the screen dirt.. i was expecting to much about the new processor (QUAD CORE, better the DUAL CORE, RIGHT???), the ram but was getting to much frustration. the only GREAT thing about this device is the RETINA SCREEN, not including the DIRT of course, the the BATTERY!
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i already posted this to other threads
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I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.
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I can understand your frustration. I've experienced everything you mentioned except for the dirt (although I do have a small black smudge underneath the glass near the right speaker). I'm really starting to regret getting this thing (especially with news of the Nexus 2 7" coming out soon at a possibly cheaper price point). I'm really hoping installing something like the RileyROM 1.2 will help fix these issues.
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i hope so too. thanks
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i hope so too. thanks
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I just flashed the RileyROM 1.2. They were right, it really was very easy. I'm in the process of restoring everything. I'll report back with my impressions on the performance later.
Hi, I am thinking to flash lineage OS to my oppo R7 plus and I was wondering how good is the battery line in lineage OS as consider to color OS. Battery life is the most imp thing for me in my cell phone. Any body using lineage OS work oppo R7 plus - can your answer me with some figures. I wil like to know some numbers. Like if I am getting 24 hours in color OS, how many hours I will get in lineage OS?
Thanks for any answers.
Hey there i'm on the latest LineageOS build , your mileage may vary but from 100% to 0% in my experience is in 1 day and multiple hours , Screen on time around 7-8 hours. Good luck !
Hi, thanks for the reply. That sounds good. One more question, VOOC charging is supported by Lineage OS?
Thanks
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Hi, thanks for the reply. That sounds good. One more question, VOOC charging is supported by Lineage OS?
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Of course. you'll see charging rapidly on your lock screen.
Thanks a lot.
Two last questions before I can go for it.
1. If I don't like lineage OS and want to go back to stock color OS, is there any tutorial for that ( I searched but found nothing and even the official international oppo forms are closed recently).
2. Any major drawback of lineage OS as compared to Color OS? Any major features that is not working on lineage OS?
Thanks again.
how did you managed to flash lineage os ? please help me
There is tutorial here on the forums. I have not yet flashed it though.
aiglesh said:
Thanks a lot.
Two last questions before I can go for it.
1. If I don't like lineage OS and want to go back to stock color OS, is there any tutorial for that ( I searched but found nothing and even the official international oppo forms are closed recently).
2. Any major drawback of lineage OS as compared to Color OS? Any major features that is not working on lineage OS?
Thanks again.
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If I were you, I wouldn't touch LOS with a barge pole on this phone.
I've been running the nightlies (which are really weeklies) for months and they just seem to get less and less usable.
Firstly, forget Bluetooth if you use LOS. Using any BT headset or speaker usually results in an extremely sluggish and/or resetting phone if a call then happens. I can be quite happily walking along listening to TuneIn on a BT headset but, if a call then comes in, I have about a 20% chance of taking it without the phone dying. Same if I place a call. Which basically makes BT useless unless you never want to talk to anyone., which is kinda what they're for.
I also sometimes experience frequent random slowdowns just by activating the phone (maybe once per 2-3 days). It was working fine when I put it down. Then I pick it up and press the on switch. It then takes over a minute for the screen to come on, and further interaction with it is glacially slow until you reboot it.
Other times, it doesn't become unusably slow but is still noticeably sluggish (after activating) for no apparent reason.
Various apps crash that didn't crash before. Not always, but often enough to be annoying. In particular, Titanium Backup crashed on startup for months. It doesn't now. I don't know what changed.
Double tapping the screen to wake it up sometimes works and sometimes (maybe every 10 days) doesn't.
Battery life is noticeably less than stock.
GPS (Google Maps) doesn't always work. A few days ago I had to visit somewhere I'd never been to before. I tried to follow myself, on the bus. My position didn't update after leaving the bus station.
And don't get me started on TWRP as the recovery. It claims to support USB OTG but it doesn't, which is a major problem if you want to back up the phone to a USB flash stick. You can't. And the developer completely ignores bug reports about it.
I have two of the phones, both of the r7plusf model, so I'm sure these aren't problems with a specific phone.
And the nature of most of these problems is that you can't capture logs to file a bug.
All in all, if you have this phone just stick with what OPPO gives you, warts and all, unless you *really* want an ulcer. Or, if you really want to use LOS, get another phone.
Sorry for the late reply.
PS - if a dev happens to be listening, contact me. I'd love to help fix this stuff in any way I can.
NeBlackCat said:
If I were you, I wouldn't touch LOS with a barge pole on this phone.
I've been running the nightlies (which are really weeklies) for months and they just seem to get less and less usable.
Firstly, forget Bluetooth if you use LOS. Using any BT headset or speaker usually results in an extremely sluggish and/or resetting phone if a call then happens. I can be quite happily walking along listening to TuneIn on a BT headset but, if a call then comes in, I have about a 20% chance of taking it without the phone dying. Same if I place a call. Which basically makes BT useless unless you never want to talk to anyone., which is kinda what they're for.
I also sometimes experience frequent random slowdowns just by activating the phone (maybe once per 2-3 days). It was working fine when I put it down. Then I pick it up and press the on switch. It then takes over a minute for the screen to come on, and further interaction with it is glacially slow until you reboot it.
Other times, it doesn't become unusably slow but is still noticeably sluggish (after activating) for no apparent reason.
Various apps crash that didn't crash before. Not always, but often enough to be annoying. In particular, Titanium Backup crashed on startup for months. It doesn't now. I don't know what changed.
Double tapping the screen to wake it up sometimes works and sometimes (maybe every 10 days) doesn't.
Battery life is noticeably less than stock.
GPS (Google Maps) doesn't always work. A few days ago I had to visit somewhere I'd never been to before. I tried to follow myself, on the bus. My position didn't update after leaving the bus station.
And don't get me started on TWRP as the recovery. It claims to support USB OTG but it doesn't, which is a major problem if you want to back up the phone to a USB flash stick. You can't. And the developer completely ignores bug reports about it.
I have two of the phones, both of the r7plusf model, so I'm sure these aren't problems with a specific phone.
And the nature of most of these problems is that you can't capture logs to file a bug.
All in all, if you have this phone just stick with what OPPO gives you, warts and all, unless you *really* want an ulcer. Or, if you really want to use LOS, get another phone.
Sorry for the late reply.
PS - if a dev happens to be listening, contact me. I'd love to help fix this stuff in any way I can.
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I'm on the same nightlies , i don't have any issues you mentioned (yes even bluetooth works perfectly) ! the only bug i have started with last month's nightlies which makes headphones audio stutter at low volume.
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I'm on the same nightlies , i don't have any issues you mentioned (yes even bluetooth works perfectly) ! the only bug i have started with last month's nightlies which makes headphones audio stutter at low volume.
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This blows my mind. What didn't I do right? Didn't I sacrifice enough chickens?
TBH the Bluetooth problem (at least) is well documented, as well as being a massive dealbreaker.
Funnily enough though I don't have an audio stutter problem. But I don't use physically attached headphones.
Are you open to a crash-off, in which we both install the same LOS version and (if necessary) start adding apps until we either see my problems or we don't?
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Of course. you'll see charging rapidly on your lock screen.
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This helped me too, thanks. I put an inline meter and it was only drawing 1.x amps but without the meter I can see "rapidly charging" on the lockscreen. Pity there is no battery icon change for Oppo's in LineageOS (14.1).
One more thing, if you're still active... which country are you in? I first put 15.1 on my R7Plusf and right off the bat WiFi didn't work.. even after reboot etc.
I flashed 14.1 and every single thing works perfectly so far!
Just ordered a crazy phone the Blackview Max 1 as it was on 50% off so for 250usd I got a mtk6763t, 6gb/64gb, HD+ AMOLED, with a 720p laser projector phone
The bootloader is unlocked but I can't find any info on how to root or a specific TWRP for it
Any help appreciated
Thanks!
Re
I also bought this phone 3 days ago from amazon.de.
I've already tested some things but I was looking forward for root and more deep tests from the experts here ?? I've searched blackview forums and here's the link for the ROM (I cannot put links here yet but you can search on their forums) from 3 days ago. Anyone wanna test it out? Thanks!
I got mine too. Everything apart from the projector is standard.
The projector is KICKASS for its size, price and form factor!
Blown away!
Testing...
So still no luck with rooting... But after some usage and testing it is a 720p or even a little higher projector. I did a manual count of the lines projected of a white image and it was more than 720 vertical... But I couldn't see any "pixles" like on a dlp projector just horz lines. I guess the laser diod technology works different? I would think they still have something like mirrors for the on and off for each pixel. As the contrast is absolutely excellent.
Phone in it self as a phone is pretty slow as a daily, but for its intent as a portable night/dark room projector it's very good. I've noticed I get a smudgy image sometimes and have to remind myself of wiping the glass of the projector as the tiniest fingerprint affects the quality.
Colors are vibrant and using a projector screen is even better. I use a reflective one and brightness is great. Although some might find this laser shininess/glow a little off putting at first.. It's like a small glimmering effect.. But I don't see it really any more. But on a white wall/material there is almost none.
Battery life is excellent and watching 4 episodes of Suits on Netflix is no problem at all with battery to spare. I do hope some update solved the touchscreen off issue. When the projector is on and the screen is off the touchscreen still tracks touches (turn on display touch in dev options) but doesn't let the system react to them.
So until someone ports a TWRP or root for this little gem not much more to test
Cheers!
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So still no luck with rooting... But after some usage and testing it is a 720p or even a little higher projector. I did a manual count of the lines projected of a white image and it was more than 720 vertical... But I couldn't see any "pixles" like on a dlp projector just horz lines. I guess the laser diod technology works different? I would think they still have something like mirrors for the on and off for each pixel. As the contrast is absolutely excellent.
Phone in it self as a phone is pretty slow as a daily, but for its intent as a portable night/dark room projector it's very good. I've noticed I get a smudgy image sometimes and have to remind myself of wiping the glass of the projector as the tiniest fingerprint affects the quality.
Colors are vibrant and using a projector screen is even better. I use a reflective one and brightness is great. Although some might find this laser shininess/glow a little off putting at first.. It's like a small glimmering effect.. But I don't see it really any more. But on a white wall/material there is almost none.
Battery life is excellent and watching 4 episodes of Suits on Netflix is no problem at all with battery to spare. I do hope some update solved the touchscreen off issue. When the projector is on and the screen is off the touchscreen still tracks touches (turn on display touch in dev options) but doesn't let the system react to them.
So until someone ports a TWRP or root for this little gem not much more to test
Cheers!
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It still attracts more attention than someone's iPhone 11 Pro Max, every time I pull it out to show some videos to someone.
The phone doesn't feel like it has 6 gb ram and stutters quite a bit. I think it's got something to do with the optimization. The projector UI doesn't work with Nova Launcher but that's fine too.
The projector steals the show and I am glad I got this phone.
I would love to tinker with it and get it to run something like a pixel experience rom or even the new android go on it.
Waiting for root and twrp
Funny thing is I have an old galaxy s7 that gets about 150k on antutu and the Max 1 got 100k...but the max 1 is much more slower then just 1/3.. Seems strange.. Even simple tasks as typing on SwiftKey feels delayed for every key press..
Anyhow it still a great little projector!
Let's hope we can get someone interested in looking at this phone ?
zozew said:
So still no luck with rooting... But after some usage and testing it is a 720p or even a little higher projector. I did a manual count of the lines projected of a white image and it was more than 720 vertical... But I couldn't see any "pixles" like on a dlp projector just horz lines. I guess the laser diod technology works different? I would think they still have something like mirrors for the on and off for each pixel. As the contrast is absolutely excellent.
Phone in it self as a phone is pretty slow as a daily, but for its intent as a portable night/dark room projector it's very good. I've noticed I get a smudgy image sometimes and have to remind myself of wiping the glass of the projector as the tiniest fingerprint affects the quality.
Colors are vibrant and using a projector screen is even better. I use a reflective one and brightness is great. Although some might find this laser shininess/glow a little off putting at first.. It's like a small glimmering effect.. But I don't see it really any more. But on a white wall/material there is almost none.
Battery life is excellent and watching 4 episodes of Suits on Netflix is no problem at all with battery to spare. I do hope some update solved the touchscreen off issue. When the projector is on and the screen is off the touchscreen still tracks touches (turn on display touch in dev options) but doesn't let the system react to them.
So until someone ports a TWRP or root for this little gem not much more to test
Cheers!
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Funny thing is I have an old galaxy s7 that gets about 150k on antutu and the Max 1 got 100k...but the max 1 is much more slower then just 1/3.. Seems strange.. Even simple tasks as typing on SwiftKey feels delayed for every key press..
Anyhow it still a great little projector!
Let's hope we can get someone interested in looking at this phone
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Poor software by blackview. Lots of little bugs
zozew said:
Just ordered a crazy phone the Blackview Max 1 as it was on 50% off so for 250usd I got a mtk6763t, 6gb/64gb, HD+ AMOLED, with a 720p laser projector phone
The bootloader is unlocked but I can't find any info on how to root or a specific TWRP for it
Any help appreciated
Thanks!
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EZ to root. Using SP flash tool flash the boot image i'll include and use the scatter loading file i'll include.
Boot image: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1XSt__9OvwgsuUsc5Cw4_GRMTCMb3l5vJ
Scatter-loading file: see attachement
Lucahack, can you please provide a quick guide for Blackview Max 1 owners who have never used SP flash tool (such as, which version of the tool, drivers and a brief "how to")?
Thank you.
Yes please a simple guide would be great!
Is there any recovery for the max 1? I understand it should be possible to port a twrp to this phone/processor but I am not the right person to do that...
Cheers
Lucahack....are you able to help ???
forcedv said:
Lucahack....are you able to help ???
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so no twrp for device still?
I managed to root it though, patched the boot.img with magisk and then flashed the patched boot via fastboot commands
fastboot flash boot magisk_patched.img
unlock bootloader first (if it wasn't obvious)
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so no twrp for device still?
I managed to root it though, patched the boot.img with magisk and then flashed the patched boot via fastboot commands
fastboot flash boot magisk_patched.img
unlock bootloader first (if it wasn't obvious)
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Could you please provide a detailed guide (that a novice can easily follow)?
I don't find it slow. Though I haven't had it long. It did glitch a tiny bit when I tried to use nova launcher though.
And have stereo speakers, a 4600mah battery, and especially an oled screen are super great pluses.
I had the galaxy beam which got stolen and instantly i could see brightness difference. And the screen shutting off during projection even during YouTube is a nice touch.
Though I did like how the galaxy beam had a physical button to launch or shut off the projector.
Yes hello, I am pretty new to modding, I started like yesterday.. but Today I managed to get TWRP working on blackview max1 tho the twrp doesn't register the phone as blackview max one but as w1, but it's wotking, so if you wanna try it out, here ya go (I got it on the phone using fastboot, just use "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" and it should work just fine)
Hello, I need full dump from Blackview Max 1 made with flash tool. Those ROMs A809_DK002_63_O1_V2.3.1.4_S190225_MROK in internet are not good. They make back camera focus problems. I offer 20$ for dump, of course without user data.
hello, who has the firmware for blackview max 1 can you please ?
What to enable or disable to make it less aggressive?
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Hi,
I have the same problem and it is f*** annoying! I have the 8GB version of the OP7pro and I don't know why the phone always closes my apps after a certain amount of time. I have disabled all (as far as I know) battery optimization features and also disabled the RAM booster.
In parallel I still run a Galaxy Note 3 with a really old custom rom, which has started to act a bit buggy now, but this phone does not overwrite MY settings and kills apps I want to keep open.
Does anyone know how to get rid of this behavior? Or is the only way to flash a custom rom again? I don't know if it is related to Oxygen OS or Android 9.
Thanks
GP
This is the problem with Chinese oems. Aggressive ram management, notification problems, not quite there cameras. Having the hardware is one thing. Software r & d is something else.
Can't remember exactly where I read it but...OnePlus is supposedly working on an update to "fix" the problem with aggressive killing of background apps as a result of all the complaints they receive concerning this issue. Something that can possibly help along with shutting off all battery/ram management is to lock your open apps to keep them open. While scrolling through your open apps you will see a three dot menu in the top right corner and one of the options is to "lock" the app which is supposed to lock it in memory/RAM. YMMV
jaseman said:
Can't remember exactly where I read it but...OnePlus is supposedly working on an update to "fix" the problem with aggressive killing of background apps as a result of all the complaints they receive concerning this issue. Something that can possibly help along with shutting off all battery/ram management is to lock your open apps to keep them open. While scrolling through your open apps you will see a three dot menu in the top right corner and one of the options is to "lock" the app which is supposed to lock it in memory/RAM. YMMV
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Are we sure this isn't a Pie issue? I just came from a pixel 3xl and had the same issues in the beginning. Everyone blamed the 4gb RAM as the culprit. Google eventually updated a Fix but it wasn't 100% fixed. It was better but apps still closed to early. So maybe we're looking at an Android problem. Who knows
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tropical cactus said:
This is the problem with Chinese oems. Aggressive ram management, notification problems, not quite there cameras. Having the hardware is one thing. Software r & d is something else.
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This is totally crap, I switched from my Note 3, which I still like very much (but only with AOSP based custom ROM) to OP because I don't like the way Samsung and Huawei gone to. I'm not rooted right now, so I can not tell what can be done with Magisk Modules or Xposed Modules (or other mods) on a Oxygen based ROM.
Can someone tell if this behavior can be stopped with mods or is the only way to switch to an AOSP based ROM again?
I wanted to give Oxygen OS a try but right now I'm not fully convinced with the current situation, even if OP is one of the fastest supplier for updates. I don't like it, when a manufacturer tells me what I can do with a device and what not. At least OP should give me the choice how strict the RAM management is and when I want to get apps closed.
Missing notifications is one other big point. Due to the fact that there is no notification LED and no AOD (STILL) I tried several third party apps to get a AOD, but the battery drain on this apps is heavy as f*** and they often do not work correctly, because the system prevents them to run correctly.
Does anyone know a good way to get a reliable way for notifications?
Thanks.
GP
General-Pain-666 said:
This is totally crap, I switched from my Note 3, which I still like very much (but only with AOSP based custom ROM) to OP because I don't like the way Samsung and Huawei gone to. I'm not rooted right now, so I can not tell what can be done with Magisk Modules or Xposed Modules (or other mods) on a Oxygen based ROM.
Can someone tell if this behavior can be stopped with mods or is the only way to switch to an AOSP based ROM again?
I wanted to give Oxygen OS a try but right now I'm not fully convinced with the current situation, even if OP is one of the fastest supplier for updates. I don't like it, when a manufacturer tells me what I can do with a device and what not. At least OP should give me the choice how strict the RAM management is and when I want to get apps closed.
Missing notifications is one other big point. Due to the fact that there is no notification LED and no AOD (STILL) I tried several third party apps to get a AOD, but the battery drain on this apps is heavy as f*** and they often do not work correctly, because the system prevents them to run correctly.
Does anyone know a good way to get a reliable way for notifications?
Thanks.
GP
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Not only that. 3rd party apps like notification buddy work but Google Assistant stops working once you install it. I don't know what GA has to do with notification lighting. It's supposed to be a phone first and foremost. OnePlus seems to have forgotten what it is they're making. Something as basic as missed notifications seems not terribly important to them.
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Not only that. 3rd party apps like notification buddy work but Google Assistant stops working once you install it. I don't know what GA has to do with notification lighting. It's supposed to be a phone first and foremost. OnePlus seems to have forgotten what it is they're making. Something as basic as missed notifications seems not terribly important to them.
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I agree. Samsung and Huawei show that AOD can work without heavy battery drain, so why can't OP get this to work or can they but don't want it?
I will root the device and have a look what I can optimize.
What I cannot change (unfortunately I had no chance to hands on the device before I bought it) is the size and the weight. It is to big and way to heavy. Not only while taking a phone call, even if you just hold it in one hand and do some stuff, it gets heavy within a very short time.
Maybe this OP was my first and last one - I will see. But it seems that all devices get bigger and heavier with every iteration, which is totally insane.
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Are we sure this isn't a Pie issue? I just came from a pixel 3xl and had the same issues in the beginning. Everyone blamed the 4gb RAM as the culprit. Google eventually updated a Fix but it wasn't 100% fixed. It was better but apps still closed to early. So maybe we're looking at an Android problem. Who knows
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It's definitely a pie thing as Android 10 had much better ram management even on pixel 2xl with 4gb ram. I suspect it will resolve most of our problems.
General-Pain-666 said:
I agree. Samsung and Huawei show that AOD can work without heavy battery drain, so why can't OP get this to work or can they but don't want it?
I will root the device and have a look what I can optimize.
What I cannot change (unfortunately I had no chance to hands on the device before I bought it) is the size and the weight. It is to big and way to heavy. Not only while taking a phone call, even if you just hold it in one hand and do some stuff, it gets heavy within a very short time.
Maybe this OP was my first and last one - I will see. But it seems that all devices get bigger and heavier with every iteration, which is totally insane.
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I have a problem with the weight as well, like my previous note 9. I got the s10+ after that, before being enticed by all the YouTube reviews of the 7pro at launch. I'm beginning to regret that decision. Dual speakers are no where near the s10+ and neither is video stabilisation. I'm on the beta 2 now, rooted and the experience is beginning to improve. Sure there are pros like the fast charging, display and the quick implementation of android 10. I can't justify the note 10 and all the year end releases with SD 865 round the corner so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.
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I have a problem with the weight as well, like my previous note 9. I got the s10+ after that, before being enticed by all the YouTube reviews of the 7pro at launch. I'm beginning to regret that decision. Dual speakers are no where near the s10+ and neither is video stabilisation. I'm on the beta 2 now, rooted and the experience is beginning to improve. Sure there are pros like the fast charging, display and the quick implementation of android 10. I can't justify the note 10 and all the year end releases with SD 865 round the corner so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.
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You're on Beta software...what do you expect? I'm on stable and all is working fine. I'm on T-Mobile but using an unlocked 7 Pro purchased from OnePlus directly.
jaseman said:
You're on Beta software...what do you expect? I'm on stable and all is working fine. I'm on T-Mobile but using an unlocked 7 Pro purchased from OnePlus directly.
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Did you actually read what I wrote? The experience has improved on android 10.
i had the s10+ and i couldnt deal with the half bakes software. so oneplus was the natural choice for me.
sure the speakers arent the best but theyre plenty fine - its not like we use our speakers for hidef sound, wireless headphones or a jukebox can take care of the rest (i have these strategically placed around the house so its never an issue when i play music)
failing AOD, dt2w is just as good imo.
tropical cactus said:
I have a problem with the weight as well, like my previous note 9. I got the s10+ after that, before being enticed by all the YouTube reviews of the 7pro at launch. I'm beginning to regret that decision. Dual speakers are no where near the s10+ and neither is video stabilisation. I'm on the beta 2 now, rooted and the experience is beginning to improve. Sure there are pros like the fast charging, display and the quick implementation of android 10. I can't justify the note 10 and all the year end releases with SD 865 round the corner so I guess I'll just have to put up with it.
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virtyx said:
i had the s10+ and i couldnt deal with the half bakes software. so oneplus was the natural choice for me.
sure the speakers arent the best but theyre plenty fine - its not like we use our speakers for hidef sound, wireless headphones or a jukebox can take care of the rest (i have these strategically placed around the house so its never an issue when i play music)
failing AOD, dt2w is just as good imo.
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If you use Magisk, make sure to flash Ainur Sauron. That's an absolute game-changer for audio quality. I can't say the audio will quite compare to the Note 9 (I own it), but it should be fairly comparable to the S10+ (Have two in the family). The Note 9 has the advantage of actual front-facing speakers since it has bezel.
If you want to use Viper or JamesDSP, you'll need to also flash AML in Magisk which allows for multiple audio mods to be integrated. If you want a simple flash and away w/o further customization, then just flash Ainur Sauron.
Thank you. Good recommendation