Hi.
I have a Bez Sony Z5 phone case on my phone, and I recently ran a CPU benchmark. The CPU scores had gone way down low, probably because of my case thermal throttling my phone. Is there something I could do to get my phone cooler, without me having to get rid of my case? I wouldn't mind modding the case either btw.
Thanks
it is well known for over 2 years that almost every phone who uses SD810 chipset throttles like no other and warms up a lot till the point when is unplesant to hold it....sry to say that but it is what it is...Sony and other companies wont admit it....i tried a lot of times to prove them wrong with every xperia that i had ,they never admit that the phone does overheat they will say that it just heats up so its normal(yea sure)...my last Sony phone was XZ wich somehow worked normaly but after using it for more then half year its heating up and it throttles again like every xperia maybe little les agressive but it does.now i use galaxy s8 and yes Sony this phone also warms up but doesnt throttle like ur crap HEHE. cheers
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if u are familiar to flashing stuff on ur phone etc, ur only solution to throttling is to unlock the bootloader and root ur phone and then instal mod callled FSC(thermal FIX)...after flashing this mod phone runs cooler and smoother. i personaly tested with my friend´s xperia z5 and it works better then stock.if ur interested take a look and see... https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...-0-dont-sacrifice-performance-t3670586/page11
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ok im running haykuros latest htc rom and also overclockin with open overclocker my cpu speed was set to 384 eeverything was working fine until the battery was under 5 percent..the screen turned off and was really hot...i charged the battery and know the fone wont boot! all i get is a blue led when i press the power button! no commands work! home and back dont work or the camera button command either! plus I dont have insurance! Im screwed!
Damn...sorry to hear man. So the screen doesn't even come on? It doesn't even allow you to enter into recovery mode?
I would take the battery out, leave the cover off and leave it alone for a day or 2 in front of a fan or at least in a cool dry place so it can cool down NOT THE FRIDGE LOL. Some hardware even if it overheats, if the components aren't completely shot just needs a little resting time and it'll work fine. If by any means you can get it to boot i'd take out the memory card pop it into your computer and load the modded rc29 build onto it right away and then let it update OTA......Sorry about the loss I know the G1 is still pretty expensive 250+ most places I see...except craigslist which can be cheaper depending on which city you live in. Good Luck.
Happened to my old tmobile MDA a long time ago when I got overclock happy and I just let it sit for a day or 2 naked with the battery out and it powered up fine. Hope it works out for you......
Thanks for the help man.. i think imma jus leave it off overnight...
i dont think ill be able to put rc29 kuz i cant even get to that screen on the fone
I don't know if there is anyway of telling if the battery is damaged or not (doubt you have a digital multimeter). But even if you don't have insurance on the phone, you can complain that you are having battery problems and have tmobile send you a new battery, that you can try out. Good Luck bro.
I would go into a T-mobile store if you can and ask if they could switch out the battery for you. Most will unless they are complete asshats. If that doesn't work I would call T-mobile and do a warranty exchange. Don't tell them you have customer firmware or using an OC app. Just tell them the battery got really hot and now your phone won't work. It should be covered and they will send you out a replacement one.
T-mobile best CM!
Called T-mobile and they are sending me a brand spanking new fone for free! thank yo guys for all the help, much appreciated!
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Your phones is not bricked you blew it up god over clocking your processor is dangerous unless you know what your doing guess this goes to show everyone overclocking the g1 is very dangerous unlike with great motherboards this will not shutdown if you overheat the proccessor
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Your phones is not bricked you blew it up god over clocking your processor is dangerous unless you know what your doing guess this goes to show everyone overclocking the g1 is very dangerous unlike with great motherboards this will not shutdown if you overheat the proccessor
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He wasn't over clocking it. The "overclocking" apps do not actually overclock, they just set the clock speed to the max its made to go. The G1 is actually underclocked.
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Htc underclocked it for a reason cause it overheats and blows up come on people just because you can does not mean you should in the apps text in the market tells you about this. I was just pointing out that when you fry your phone it's not called bricking it's called blown up. It's not like htc put a fan to cool it down like a pc mac or linux box plus batery heat screen heat. Using an app that's designed to defeate safety features put in the phone is idiotic.
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Htc underclocked it for a reason cause it overheats and blows up come on people just because you can does not mean you should in the apps text in the market tells you about this. I was just pointing out that when you fry your phone it's not called bricking it's called blown up. It's not like htc put a fan to cool it down like a pc mac or linux box plus batery heat screen heat. Using an app that's designed to defeate safety features put in the phone is idiotic.
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You don't seem to understand the definition of a processor's clock speed. The clock speed represents the maximum frequency the processor can run on safely. Therefore, there is no danger in running it at its full designed speed. Granted, it will decrease the overall processor's lifetime, it is still a safe thing to do in short bursts. Like you mentioned, the G1 doesn't have any cooling on it, meaning yes, the processor in a sense could overheat from running at such a high frequency, but it shouldn't be enough to permanently damage the phone. And finally, this is XDA Developers, we are all about defeating these safety mechanisms and things along that line
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And finally, this is XDA Developers, we are all about defeating these safety mechanisms and things along that line
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so say we all.
rigamrts said:
come on people just because you can does not mean you should
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says you, i personally like to test anything to it's max potential as long as it is under warranty. i figure if i goof it up i can claim i have no idea what is wrong with it(i'm a pretty good liar) right now i have a PC notebook quad-booting ubuntu 8.10, ubuntu 9.04, windows XP pro, and windows vista. if we never pushed anything hard enough to crash things would never get better. i wish i had a bigger hard drive in my comp(only have a 360 GB with 4 partitions) so what am i gonna buy ASAP 1 exabyte just because i CAN. i know i will never fill it up but hell i can store all my DNA info on it and still have room for any movie/mp3 i could possibly think of
i set up my device with everything , set up application make installations , played with wifi and installed games tried games with no interuption,
and i noticed as i was playing a game after an hour or so that the device was getting crazy hot ...
i removed backplate and touched the metal where the sim card was in ... even hotter !!!
is it the same for you ? does it really get that hot ???
(i noticed that and i brought the phone back, couse when it was hot i get foce close and sound was gone, had to wait to cool down or restart the phone to get sound back. so i hope my second phone will arrive today)
Mine gets really hot at times too, I noticed it the other day when chatting on Facebook.
Someone else mentioned that it was due to the app constantly trying to update itself, but I've now installed a temperature app so I can get some details and actually ask HTC direct about it, although it's looking like this phone will have to go back at some point...
-Just so I can keep a record, it's been idling all morning bar an email or two and it's at 26.5 degrees at the moment. Nice and cool.
you will bring the phone back to get a new one too??
I haven't sent it back yet, but then that's because it's only happened once and I want to try to get some details to present to HTC so I can get their word on it.
i askted htc on it ...
they just say .... we understand that youre disappointed ... try these solutions to get rid of the problems you have. 1. make a soft reset 2. meke a hardreset !!
if this doesnt help send the phone back to us to get a new one
thats it
Don't worry about it, it's exactly the same for the Galaxy SII. These dual core CPUs are designed to run hot, they have to be with the limited space available and almost nothing in the way of heat dissipation. The Galaxy SII shuts itself off as a safety measure if it thinks it will be damaged by the heat (never happened to me though) and I'm sure the Sensation has a similar safety mechanism.
Hi,
I have a Xperia Z3 for a few months now. Software wise it's great, I really love it. But I have a series of very annoying hardware issues.
1) USB cable doesn't connect properly. Well, it does, but any movement breaks the connection. Touching the cable, even lightly, disconnects the USB. I lost a lot of time transferring files and accidentally pushing the cable, and it's super scary to install sensitive stuff via USB.
2) It gets really hot really fast. Playing simple games or browsing the internet for 5 minutes already makes it warm. Playing hardware intensive games for 20 minutes make the phone so hot that it's *really* uncomfortable to hold it. I can't play games outside because I can't stand holding the phone, and putting it in my pocket just makes my leg hot because the heat is spreading through my pants. Despite that, I never got a overheat warning. It happens with both stock and custom ROMs, so I don't think it's a software issue.
3) I got a small crack on my screen. I have absolutely no idea how it happened, but I don't think I was careless. Is the screen too fragile? I don't think so, this one is probably my fault , but might as well ask.
I'm asking all of this because these problems are really annoying me, and I want a new phone. I really love this software/spec-wise, so I'm thinking to get the same. But damn, if I buy another Z3 just to have the same issues I'll feel like the biggest idiot on the planet.
So, was it just a bad luck thing or should I go for another phone?
Thanks for reading.
Hi Hexenir
I've had my z3 for around 6 months now and think it's a great phone.
No. 1, have you maybe worn the USB port out by connecting lots and lots of times? (you mentioned you've used custom roms so I assume you've flashed more than the average user) Do you charge through that port too, thus increasing how many times you've used that port? I use a Magnector to charge so I only use the USB port to side load apps and mine is totally stable. I can move the phone around whilst it's connected and it doesn't break connection. Also, are you using the cable that came with the phone? Sometimes other brands can be sloppy fitting.
No 2, I can't really comment here because I don't play intensive games on mine. I have browsed reddit for easily a full hour and there might be a slight temperature increase but nothing I wouldn't expect. It's also sat in a case so I'd imagine it's harder for my phone to get rid of heat.
No 3, As I just said, I use a case so I've not got any cracks on mine (yet, touch wood) but I haven't ever dropped it either. I use a Roxfit case and I'm really happy with it. I always used to keep my other phones naked (no case) but the glass front and back made me feel paranoid about dropping it. There's also the issue that the z3 can slide if it's on a flat/smooth surface (mine slid on my bed duvet and I've heard they've slid across tables) so again, my case stops this.
These aren't cheap phones so at the end of the day it's your decision but if you do, I'd recommend a magnector and a case. Another thing I should mention, I switched to a magnector because I worried about wearing the water tight seal by opening it to charge every 3 or 4 days. Have you recently done a pressure test to see if you've worn that seal out?
The Z3 is a great phone, but ...
1)
USB - I usually use the magnetic port for charging and do most file transfers by wifi so the only usage of the USB port is for me flashing roms. Nothing happened yet but I guess this is something which can be fixed under warranty.
2)
My kids play Asphalt 8 on it and it does get warm but not hot. Before investigating further I would recommend doing a factory reset to see whether this resolves the issue. If not, warranty may help either.
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A pain in the ass and you are not the only one. Depending on your country you may have difficulties to get that repaired.
1- Bad USB? Have you tried using another cable and/or another computer to see whether the same problem persist? I highly doubt its software issue, wouldn’t harm to do a repair with Sony PC Companion. If you have tried all those mentioned above, I would assume it’s a defected phone, hardware issue.
2- I think its normal for the Z series, they do tend to get warm easily. I have the Z and now the Z3, both experienced the same thing. One thing is that heat disperse poorly on glass in compared to metal. This might be one reason why many OEMs do not use glass back anymore. I know its a shame, beauty or performance, your choice. However, i would say the Z3 disperse heat far better than the Z.
in addition to that, it also depends your location. Here in Vancouver, its mostly raining and windy, so heat isnt that bad in compared to Asia, Hong Kong/China etc.
Idle average CPU temp is 24 Celsius
Browsing average CPU temp is 30 Celsius - 40 Celsius
Playing games reaches 4x Celsius fast. I normally let it cool after reaching that high. Thus, i barely play games on the phone.
3- I do not believe that the Z3 has gorilla glass 3/4 so I wouldn’t bet on the glass is "tough." That said, I would advise you to put on a screen protector regardless of whether you like it or not. Trust me, a simple screen protector will hold the glass together. I had the Z before and dropped like x times and the screen didn’t crack at all. Dropped my Z3 few times and its still fine.
Well if I purchase a phone where the screen cracked randomly and have the issues u mentioned I would not buy it again.
With the screen crack Sony will refuse to repair it under warranty but u can still try.
I always have an insurance when I buy Smartphones. I paid 150€ and it covers everthing Sony will refuse to repair.
It's Xperia xz dual,
It's need to be very high speed cellphone
But on games is stuck a lot!! For example "nitro nation" it's high graphics, and is not working smoothly
Why?
ur not alone...i have same problem with xperia xz single version...playing games on this phone is like mission inposible...at first it works somehow but the after just 5min of usage it gets warm and it drops the perfomance so badly that u cant even play anymore..if i would have fps counter it would be probably 10fps at most.this device is definetly bad for gaming ...i had Z5 it had that thermal problem but looks like same story here aswell.wish we could now this informations before we buy one...i actualy infromed myself as mutch as i could but never found a thread about thermal throtling problem and after i bought it i noticed after a month that device simply cant perform as they claim...so i searched again cuz i was pissed how a better device then before could perform wors or same LOL and found actualy that XZ is having almost same issue like Z5 before (OVERHEATS,PHONE LAGS)...i dont know maybe there are ppl who have devices witch work noormaly and maybe we are just out of luck..but im willing to turn the luck in to my advantage cuz i have enough of this sh!t.
Hi,
I have been using my Xperia 5 III for a week now. Everything is well but the phone overheats when going about completely normal day to day tasks. Just the use of a slightly more intensive application like Uber heats the phone up.
When this happens, the screen automatically drops to 60Hz. I cannot seem to disable this 'feature'. While charging, needless to say, the phone pretty much stays in 60Hz for the first half of charging time due to overheating.
Is the above normal? I don't seem to see any background updates. I would not mind the overheating if the display would just remain at 120Hz. Will rooting or modding be able to overcome this?
Cheers!
not at my dayly use of the X5 III
just went hot at first day of many installations but after than not anymore.
Found a good solution to the overheating: rooted (Magisk) and used Franco Kernel Manager to disable the big core and a couple of the middle ones, thing still absolutely flies, and now never gets hot.
treff89 said:
Found a good solution to the overheating: rooted (Magisk) and used Franco Kernel Manager to disable the big core and a couple of the middle ones, thing still absolutely flies, and now never gets hot.
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Wow great! Any side effects on incompatible apps, instability issues or bugs? And did you benchmark before and after?
i don't get it...my X5 III did't even gets warm
what ya doing with the device to get it hot.??
DanielMode said:
i don't get it...my X5 III did't even gets warm
what ya doing with the device to get it hot.??
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Nothing intensive. Just Uber, Teamviewer and Google Maps. Surprisingly, games do not get the phone hot. I have tried both the German and Hong Kong Xperia 5 IIIs. Same for both.
DanielMode said:
i don't get it...my X5 III did't even gets warm
what ya doing with the device to get it hot.??
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Sounds like typical Sony's quality control issue to me.
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trying to root my device since yesterday....restarted many times flashing FW switching from Fastboot to Flashmode back and force and my phone did't even gets worm
DanielMode said:
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trying to root my device since yesterday....restarted many times flashing FW switching from Fastboot to Flashmode back and force and my phone did't even gets worm
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Can say the same. Many reboots, fastboot, flashmode and back and my Phone is "cold".
Had never a Problem with hot or warm device
And still, having to root and disable a core or something isn't a solution I'm content with. Especially because the 5 II didn't have those problems. I understand they do this to preserve the battery but honestly it didn't really matter with my old phone and I used it a lot when it was hot.
I recently upgraded my 5 II to a 5 III and although I still don't wanna believe it, it's getting pretty obvious that the phone throttles the FPS from 120 to 60 Hz. The Xperia 5 II only did this sometimes when you were charging and gaming simulatenously.
However with the 5 III it sometimes tends to throttle just when you are surfing through the net or using some apps. During gaming without charging it also throttles often.
mine got super hot in like 5 min of instagram or youtube vids. It also tends to get hot and throttle a bit on music playback, i'm starting to assume that is not normal
I haven't noticed any of those with my 5III. It has behaved like my 5II for the last 6 months. Only issue I've had with heat is if I'm shooting a lot of 4k video with the CinePro app in the direct sunlight in the Texas summer.
Only gets hot when streaming.
Besides that, Ive never seen the hot temps message pop up.