Hi, I have a nokia 6 TA-1025 (first version) with android 8.1 and almost always it is so slow, so laggy, many often when wifi is enabled or when wifi loses signal or when bluetooth is active, when I want to make a call, the phone app takes too long starting or opening an app takes too long too (whatsapp), I have not so much apps, I have "lite versions" of the apps (facebook, fb messenger, skype) some other bank apps. The camera app also takes too long opening (any app that uses the camera takes too long opening it), I have a lot of free space, no sd card, only one sim, and so on... as I said, it is too slow almost always (most when it is charging). I had a moto g4plus and I had never issues with it.
Whan can you suggest me? a factory reset? buy a new phone
Thanks
Are you sure that that phone is legit?
Mine is pretty responsive all the time. Also, my battery lasts pretty long, sometimes 2 days but mostly 1,5.
I suggest you to look into the battery settings and check out the background blacklist. I have observed that sometimes some apps are removing themselves from that list.
Android shows which apps are draining the battery in the accu settings too, so be sure to check that out and maybe remove misbehaving apps.
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If you upgraded to Oreo without wiping data, this COULD be the reason too. In this case, you should backup your data and wipe cache + do a factory reset. Although I cannot tell for sure that is is the reason.
You can also try wiping the cache from recovery without doing a factory reset. This will not erase any userdata.
RAcilo said:
Are you sure that that phone is legit?
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Sure it is, I bought it at walmart with warranty... a common buy
ZeroPointMax said:
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If you upgraded to Oreo without wiping data, this COULD be the reason too. In this case, you should backup your data and wipe cache + do a factory reset. Although I cannot tell for sure that is is the reason.
You can also try wiping the cache from recovery without doing a factory reset. This will not erase any userdata.
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I updated to 8 without wiping, I will try the cache wiping first, if it does not work, I will try the factory reset
I did a cache partition wipe and it looks like it solved the problem, I will keep testing, thanks
if you have rooted your cell then use swap torpedo module for magisk
you will feel the difference.
sargodian2 said:
if you have rooted your cell then use swap torpedo module for magisk
you will feel the difference.
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I'm afraid to brick it, do you have a good tutorial for rooting it?
No. My device TA-1021 is not slow, but when i talking in Skype call, the app becomes laggy.
My TA-1025 slows down most noticeably when it auto launches Android Auto on Bluetooth connection in stand-alone mode. Especially when switching to maps. The only way to make it more responsive is to clear all running apps before launching AA. It is quite frustrating.
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I have the TA-1025 variant and it's not slow at all nor do I have connectivity issues. In fact, I'm rather impressed with this device, given it's price-point.
I have noticed that every time I install an android update, the system slows down, I have to wipe cache from bootloader and then it becomes fluid again.
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Hello all,
Having a problem with my unmodded XT926. Apps are crashing frequently during the day. Phone is usable but I get messages saying that Google Play has stopped working or Fleksy has stopped working. Keyboard app stops working multiple times a day. At first I was using the native keyboard app, but for the last three days I switched to Fleksy to see if that worked better but no dice. When the keyboard app crashes, I have to force reboot the phone. Do I need to reload firmware or something to get my phone stable again?
Phone has never been rooted (company phone). All I've ever done was disable some apps listed on the Xt926 Bloatware post on this forum and played around with Nova Launcher and Tasker.
XT926
KK4.4.2
182.46.15
kernel 3.4.42-gbd361ac
kernel date Jul 29, 2014
Any help/guidance is appreciated. Thanks in Advance
Boot into recovery and wipe cache. That has helped me in the past
Guapo613 said:
Boot into recovery and wipe cache. That has helped me in the past
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Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, it has not resolved my problem.
You can always try to enable certain things that you have previously disabled to see if that helps. I'm not sure what you have disabled but what works for some, may not work for you.
Since your rooted, you can also use Titanium Backup to freeze apps.
Are you familiar with RSD Lite?
Guapo613 said:
You can always try to enable certain things that you have previously disabled to see if that helps. I'm not sure what you have disabled but what works for some, may not work for you.
Since your rooted, you can also use Titanium Backup to freeze apps.
Are you familiar with RSD Lite?
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The app crashes were happening prior to me disabling programs. I have tried enabling everything again and the results are the same. Most of what I disabled are the bloatware apps (Amazon, MC3, Real Racing, Spotify, etc.)
I am not rooted.
Have never used RSD Lite but will look into it.
You can try going into the "Apps" menu in settings and clearing the caches for individual apps. Some of them get quite large, and the cache only stores temporary data for reasons of convenience.
You can uninstall apps you don't really need (some of them run in the background and use up memory, look in "Running" apps in the system-apps listing).
Tasker is always running in the background; do you really need it?
You can try going into developer options (go into "About phone" in settings, then tap the build number many times) and reducing the background process limit.
If all else fails, you can do a factory data reset, or even more drastic, you can reflash the stock firmware.
Also bear in mind that this is an old device, and current apps expect devices with more memory and faster processors. Every time an app is updated with more features, it uses more memory on your phone and makes it run slower.
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The app crashes were happening prior to me disabling programs. I have tried enabling everything again and the results are the same. Most of what I disabled are the bloatware apps (Amazon, MC3, Real Racing, Spotify, etc.)
I am not rooted.
Have never used RSD Lite but will look into it.
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Backup important data (pics, music etc.) and try a factory reset. This should cure all you problems.
If this process cures your phones problems, you can root your phone if you like. Look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-razr-hd/general/index-motorola-droid-razr-hd-2015-t3167557
Factory reset was done prior to my post on this board.
Don't think tasker is the problem. After the reset, I manually added apps one or two at a time... Tasker was the last one added, but crashes were happening before that.
Previously, I had been using tasker for about 6 months with no crashes at all.
Right now, I'm leaning toward flashing the firmware. My company has put a temporary ban on issuing droid phones due to that big exploit that was discovered a few weeks ago. I hate iPhones and am trying to keep this one running until they lift the ban.
Thanks for all the help so far. I'm open to trying anything to just get this phone back to a stable condition.
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so here is the latest.
Phone rebooted itself, after an app crash and is now stuck on the Droid Eye bootup screen thingy...
Force reboot doesn't fix it. Took it to Verizon store downstairs for sh*ts and giggles and they were no help. No surprise there!
Does this sound like a hardware issues to you guys?
Guess I'm going to have to bite the bullet and get an iPhone from my company as a replacement.. unless someone on here has some miracle suggestion.
It sounds more like a software issue to me.
I would see if you can get into fastboot or ADB and flash a fresh copy of the firmware before giving up entirely.
A full flashing of the firmware via RSD Lite will probably fix your issues
So I was able to Flash firmware to 183.46.15 and I also rooted the phone using sd_shadow instructions. Took me quite a while to actually download a working firmware file. The only working link I found was here: http://download1520.mediafire.com/rnbmstjwc1wg/du1p88ti1esd5fk/VZW_XT926_4.4.2-KDA20.62-15.1_1FF.xml.zip
I guess I'll see if the phone is any more stable over the next few days.
Thank you all for the suggestions. Much appreciated!
Was this ever resolved?
My S8+ started opening automatically every app I install or update from play store. It's really annoying.. I thought I can fix it with a factory reset, but it didn't help.
What I tried:
- Full factory reset
- Wipe cache partition
- Disable then re-enable play store
- Clearing all data in app settings
What else can I do?
Here's a quick video of the problem right after the factory reset:
I can't see well enough, but I think you phone is updating. What happens after they all update? Does that solve the issue?
For me, it will do the same unless I can get to Play Store, Settings, and turn off "Auto Updates", and sometimes, still then, individually go to the active update list and individually cancel each app before, or as it's updating. It's a PITA
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Let it finish installing?
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Let it finish installing?
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Thanks for the tipp...
It's not normal at all. I'm using this phone since july and never did this before. Yea after the initial setup finished and all apps were updated, the problem still persist. When I connect to WiFi and my apps starting updating, each one opens. Basically, I'm unable to use my phone when the apps are updating.
I had to turn off auto-updating and now I have to start manually updating my apps...
There are many old threads about this bug, besides wipeing cache noone said anything useful to fix the issue.
Yeah, I have not heard of it, but also have not experienced it. If it is annoying enough, and no more simple solution, I'd return to an earlier backup san the issue, or no backup, do a full wipe and fresh install. Something is definitely corrupted, near as I can tell.
Well, luckily the Oreo update fixed the issue.
Hi Feribox, did you do anything different before the Oreo update? Coz, I'm on it right now and this exact thing is happening.
What's even weirder is it seems the apps never close, I have some apps that suddenly just up and play an ad (these are apps that I did install though) so I don't think it's malware.
I just updated my S7 to official samsung Oreo and my battery is going crazy. I just unplugged my charging cable after the light indicated fully charged battery, and like 4 minutes later it's already at 97%. It just drains faster than i've ever seen. What can the cause be?
I have tried clearing the cache and also unticked the run stuff in background for the android system. Android is running at 1% battery drain so i wouldn't think that's much of an issue, but i dunno.
did u try factory reset after installing oreo? i did that and my battery usage is very good
I had the same problem and did factory reset and now it a little bit better.
Hope Samsung will just push an update to fix that issue.
My guess is the phone needs to "adapt" to the new software. Try checking your battery stats a few days after an update, ideally a week, then you'll get more consistent and realistic results. Post them here, I'm curious in the battery life increase/decrease vs. Nougat.
This is a known problem but it doesn't affect everyone. Just wait for update.
any update about it? I'm experiencing same problem
I have the same issue after updating my S7 to Oreo. This really sucks. Can hardly keep the phone charged. I don't know why they roll out updates with bugs.
Whats the easiest way of factory resetting without spending half a day getting the phone back to the way it was before the factory reset?
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I have the same issue after updating my S7 to Oreo. This really sucks. Can hardly keep the phone charged. I don't know why they roll out updates with bugs.
Whats the easiest way of factory resetting without spending half a day getting the phone back to the way it was before the factory reset?
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Use Samsung Smart Switch app to backup to SD card. Then restore.
Factory reset then restore?
I'm scared that might just restore the problems that came with the factory reset?
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I'm scared that might just restore the problems that came with the factory reset?
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No. It just restores your installed apps, app data, contacts, SMS, phone numbers. Etc. Backing up & factory resetting is always recommended when having issues with a new version of Android.
Best way to backup?
Well I've never done a factory reset before so I'm still scared. I have all my contacts and photos backed up with Google (have that Photos app & a gmail). I also have Smart Things and Smart Switch and I've seen stuff mentioned abt those being useful when doing a factory reset but I don't know exactly how to go abt it. Maybe I should do that wipe thing 1st?
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Well I've never done a factory reset before so I'm still scared. I have all my contacts and photos backed up with Google (have that Photos app & a gmail). I also have Smart Things and Smart Switch and I've seen stuff mentioned abt those being useful when doing a factory reset but I don't know exactly how to go abt it. Maybe I should do that wipe thing 1st?
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best way is from stock recovery mode, wipe cache and then factory reset, both action from there.
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Jonny993 said:
best way is from stock recovery mode, wipe cache and then factory reset, both action from there.
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Thank you for the reply and I'm sure most ppl on here understand exactly what you said but since I've never done any of those things, I have no clue how to do them, lol. I don't want to factory reset if I don't know all my stuff is backed up. Idk how I would know. All I do know is my pics and contacts would be backed up from my Google account. I will google a video and maybe they'll have something S7 specific so I don't screw it up, lol.
Side note/question- if I went into every single app and cleared the cache from Settings, did I wipe the cache but just the long way?
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Thank you for the reply and I'm sure most ppl on here understand exactly what you said but since I've never done any of those things, I have no clue how to do them, lol. I don't want to factory reset if I don't know all my stuff is backed up. Idk how I would know. All I do know is my pics and contacts would be backed up from my Google account. I will google a video and maybe they'll have something S7 specific so I don't screw it up, lol.
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I suggest you to use samsung cloud to backup application data such as launcher and contacts, sms etc.. (there is option for this if you search for backup option in your device) and to backup on SD card the rest as for example images, music etc..
So last thing you have to do is factory reset your phone.
There is the option for this also from settings.
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Side note/question- if I went into every single app and cleared the cache from Settings, did I wipe the cache but just the long way?
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not that sure but I think it's slightly different
Keep ya posted!
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best way is from stock recovery mode, wipe cache and then factory reset, both action from there.
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Jonny993 said:
I suggest you to use samsung cloud to backup application data such as launcher and contacts, sms etc.. (there is option for this if you search for backup option in your device) and to backup on SD card the rest as for example images, music etc..
So last thing you have to do is factory reset your phone.
There is the option for this also from settings.
not that sure but I think it's slightly different
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Thanks so much! Will keep ya posted.
I'm another user who experienced ridiculous battery drain after updating to the Samsung stock Oreo. After the update (without a factory reset) I was experiencing very high drain - the battery usage was reporting Cell Standby as the cause (not sure this was accurate). I installed a slightly later ROM FXXU2ERF4, which seems to have improved the drain. Unfortunately I'm experiencing call quality issues with the 'modem' package in all Oreo versions I've tried. I can't seem to find a version where the call quality is OK - so I'm a bit stuck for now. Hopefully improved in the next version
Edit: unfortunately in my case, a factory reset (on the previous ROM) did not fix the battery drain issue, only the newer Oreo firmware. . sorry to say
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I'm another user who experienced ridiculous battery drain after updating to the Samsung stock Oreo. After the update (without a factory reset) I was experiencing very high drain - the battery usage was reporting Cell Standby as the cause (not sure this was accurate). I installed a slightly later ROM FXXU2ERF4, which seems to have improved the drain. Unfortunately I'm experiencing call quality issues with the 'modem' package in all Oreo versions I've tried. I can't seem to find a version where the call quality is OK - so I'm a bit stuck for now. Hopefully improved in the next version
Edit: unfortunately in my case, a factory reset (on the previous ROM) did not fix the battery drain issue, only the newer Oreo firmware. . sorry to say
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Hi, I use modem from nougat... this fix call quality and I haven't battery drain!
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Hi, I use modem from nougat... this fix call quality and I haven't battery drain!
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Is this confirmed? can you send screenshots of battery usage?
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Is this confirmed? can you send screenshots of battery usage?
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You can try... with odin
Modem from 7.0 g930fxxs2drdi (g930fxxu2erd6)
ap and bl g930fxxu2erem
Your csc 8.0 (for me is itv)
Excellent call quality and no battery drain.
All work... samsung pay etc... I don't have root
Tomorrow screenshot of battery usage
I will wait for others to confirm this, for now I successfully came back to Nougat version and all it's fine, except you know.. the Oreo things
Ever since my Galaxy S10e (AT&T) upgraded to Android 11 last week, I have been having major memory problems. If I switch from one app to another and then go back to the first, it has often been killed. When running some apps, my persistent notifications start disappearing and apps that I have running in the background are getting killed. I often find apps that would always be running in the background are now restarting when I switch to them. I use a Video Compressor app and it ran fine with very rare exceptions in Android 10 but now as soon as I start processing a video, my notifications disappear and if the screen goes off, the app starts processing again at the beginning of the video when I turn the screen back on. With Android 10, I could use several apps and the Video Compressor would work in the background. I have battery optimizations turned off for the relevant apps to the best of my knowledge.
Has anyone else experienced these issues? At this point, I seriously regret upgrading to Android 11.
I'm not sure if EVERY issue I have had with a Samsung phone is completely unique to me or I am just using the wrong forum. The silence always seems to be deafening on threads I start on XDA.
Scope storage sucks.
Try a factory reset and see if this helps. It's time too.
You could have it reflashed to the previous version at a Samsung Experience Store if you can't resolve the issues.
After which disable AT&T updates completely. AT&T advance tech support can also turn it off on their end if you beat them over their heads a bit.
My 10+ is still running fast and stable on Pie... purposely.
blackhawk said:
Scope storage sucks.
Try a factory reset and see if this helps. It's time too.
You could have it reflashed to the previous version at a Samsung Experience Store if you can't resolve the issues.
After which disable AT&T updates completely. AT&T advance tech support can also turn it off on their end if you beat them over their heads a bit.
My 10+ is still running fast and stable on Pie... purposely.
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Thanks for the advise. Samsung phones are infamous for killing background apps due to battery optimizations, but now my background apps seem to be getting killed due to memory issues.
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Thanks for the advise. Samsung phones are infamous for killing background apps due to battery optimizations, but now my background apps seem to be getting killed due to memory issues.
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I disabled all battery optimization and used package disabling, firewall blocking, settings and occasionally clearing certain Google apk data to bring battery life into line.
Scope storage can use more memory but not that much.
Go to Developer options>running services/cache and see what dragging the memory down.
Did you do any system app updates after OTA?
That could be it.
I run the factory load for many of the Google apps. They run better.
AR Core was a horrible resource hog, I disabled it.
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I disabled all battery optimization and used package disabling, firewall blocking, settings and occasionally clearing certain Google apk data to bring battery life into line.
Scope storage can use more memory but not that much.
Go to Developer options>running services/cache and see what dragging the memory down.
Did you do any system app updates after OTA?
That could be it.
I run the factory load for many of the Google apps. They run better.
AR Core was a horrible resource hog, I disabled it.
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I don't have great battery life, but I use my phone heavily and sometimes use intensive apps, so I'm not complaining about that. I have pretty much all battery optimizations turned off (I'm actually currently helping Don'tKillMyApp correct their S10 info, which I never found correct).
The top 5 memory users on my phone are all system processes. I have disabled a number of apps. I have five different AR apps disabled, but I don't see AR Core on my phone. I noticed that One UI Home was in the top 5 at around 450 MB. I disabled that yesterday, since I don't use it (I use Nova) and spent some time trying to figure out why my recent apps button was no longer working. It is ridiculous I need to use 450 MB of memory just to use the recent apps button.
My cached apps don't seem to be using too much memory. I'm sure I have more apps than I need running in the background (Blokada, Bitwarden, a couple battery monitors, a VPN at times and so on), but I didn't really have problems on Android 10. I haven't added any more since upgrading to 11, but I seem to be having serious memory issue. This morning I had the VPN on and was downloading in the background in a browser and I switched to something else minor and when I switched back, the browser had stopped and the VPN stopped, killing my download and VPN connection, so it's seriously impacting the usability of my phone.
When you say you are running the factory load of Google apps, do you mean you have never upgraded them, or have uninstalled updates? I have never really paid attention to those upgrades and have just allowed them.
I seem to regularly see about 84% usage in developer options > memory. Unfortunately, I didn't record what these memory and cache numbers were when I was on 10. 84% sounds high to me, what is anyone else's phone averaging?
I think I definitely need to contact Samsung regarding this issue.
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I'm running on Pie so no idea how ARCore is being implemented now or if it's an issue.
On my 10+ Nova uses a lot battery and resources than One UI which is faster as well.
Factory load are the original apks with no updates. Many times updates help but not always.
My ram usage profile is similar to yours.
I have about 86 packages disabled.
Google Backup Transport and Framework can run even when disabled presumably due to dependencies. Periodically clearing there data, Google Play Services and the apk logs helps on this device.
Manual sync only except text, and Google Play Services is Firewall blocked except when needed.
All carrier, Samsung and Google feedback is turned off. Android Services is firewall block as it's not needed. Playstore is disabled and firewall blocked except when needed.
It been an evolving process... one reason I'm not eager to update to Q and start from scratch with this again. Pie is fast, stable and does everything I want it to. To date none of it vulnerabilities have been an issue; a forced reload is far easier than the upgrade
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I'm running on Pie so no idea how ARCore is being implemented now or if it's an issue.
On my 10+ Nova uses a lot battery and resources than One UI which is faster as well.
Factory load are the original apks with no updates. Many times updates help but not always.
My ram usage profile is similar to yours.
I have about 86 packages disabled.
Google Backup Transport and Framework can run even when disabled presumably due to dependencies. Periodically clearing there data, Google Play Services and the apk logs helps on this device.
Manual sync only except text, and Google Play Services is Firewall blocked except when needed.
All carrier, Samsung and Google feedback is turned off. Android Services is firewall block as it's not needed. Playstore is disabled and firewall blocked except when needed.
It been an evolving process... one reason I'm not eager to update to Q and start from scratch with this again. Pie is fast, stable and does everything I want it to. To date none of it vulnerabilities have been an issue; a forced reload is far easier than the upgrade
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Thanks for the reply and screenshot! Noticeably, the system on your phone uses more memory but you also have more memory to start with than my S10e does.
The only possibly memory-related issue I had on 10 that bothered me was a period of time when my recent apps menu was often getting cleared out, even of the locked apps. Both Samsung and AT&T told me I would need to do a system reset, which I didn't want to do, or take it into a store for a repair. For some reason, this issue seemed to have gone away before the Android 11 upgrade on its own.
I am going to try disabling or uninstalling apps that are running in the background that I don't really need and I'll try some of your suggestions such as disabling auto-sync. I really don't believe I should have to do this though since I wasn't having issues like this on Android 10 and the phone should be new enough to handle the upgrade without such issues, so I will contact Samsung to see what they say.
As I said, I am generally a fan of upgrades, but I really can't think of anything I have seen better about Android 11. Even the better control over app permissions doesn't seem as good as it was described. There are SERIOUS issues with some apps using the SD Card. At this point, I certainly wouldn't have upgraded if I had known this, and for me, that is saying a lot.
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Thanks for the reply and screenshot! Noticeably, the system on your phone uses more memory but you also have more memory to start with than my S10e does.
The only possibly memory-related issue I had on 10 that bothered me was a period of time when my recent apps menu was often getting cleared out, even of the locked apps. Both Samsung and AT&T told me I would need to do a system reset, which I didn't want to do, or take it into a store for a repair. For some reason, this issue seemed to have gone away before the Android 11 upgrade on its own.
I am going to try disabling or uninstalling apps that are running in the background that I don't really need and I'll try some of your suggestions such as disabling auto-sync. I really don't believe I should have to do this though since I wasn't having issues like this on Android 10 and the phone should be new enough to handle the upgrade without such issues, so I will contact Samsung to see what they say.
As I said, I am generally a fan of upgrades, but I really can't think of anything I have seen better about Android 11. Even the better control over app permissions doesn't seem as good as it was described. There are SERIOUS issues with some apps using the SD Card. At this point, I certainly wouldn't have upgraded if I had known this, and for me, that is saying a lot.
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Generally I close out apps after I'm done with them as some like Brave continue to run in the background sucking down the battery.
Migrating from Pie you lose a lot of valuable tools in the name of Google's big sister approach to security. Lol, Google is the biggest security risk on the phone.
Do the factory reset. After a firmware update it's best practice. For once the do a factory reload advice from the techs was sound
If you have an SD card use it as a data drive. The internal drive is for loaded apps, downloads (until vetted) and such.
Store all critical data there, files, music, vids, including copies of your apps (ApkExport) so you can do a full reload with little or no internet or your PC. Make a copy of the SD card data to your PC and 2 hdds that are electronically and physically isolated from the PC. Back these up as needed.
I can do a full reload in about 2 hours. 2 forced back to back reloads made me streamline the process. A forced reload doesn't happen often but can happen at any time. A SD card used as a data drive adds another level of redundancy and perhaps data security.
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Generally I close out apps after I'm done with them as some like Brave continue to run in the background sucking down the battery.
Migrating from Pie you lose a lot of valuable tools in the name of Google's big sister approach to security. Lol, Google is the biggest security risk on the phone.
Do the factory reset. After a firmware update it's best practice. For once the do a factory reload advice from the techs was sound
If you have an SD card use it as a data drive. The internal drive is for loaded apps, downloads (until vetted) and such.
Store all critical data there, files, music, vids, including copies of your apps (ApkExport) so you can do a full reload with little or no internet or your PC. Make a copy of the SD card data to your PC and 2 hdds that are electronically and physically isolated from the PC. Back these up as needed.
I can do a full reload in about 2 hours. 2 forced back to back reloads made me streamline the process. A forced reload doesn't happen often but can happen at any time. A SD card used as a data drive adds another level of redundancy and perhaps data security.
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Thanks for the info, I will consider the factory reset if I can't make any progress on this issue. I chatted with Samsung today and they told me to wipe the cache in recovery, which seemed like a valid suggestion to me, so I will see if that makes any difference
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Thanks for the info, I will consider the factory reset if I can't make any progress on this issue. I chatted with Samsung today and they told me to wipe the cache in recovery, which seemed like a valid suggestion to me, so I will see if that makes any difference
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Just do the factory reset rather than chase ghosts. Nothing like a clean, fresh load... then you can see if there really are issues that need resolved. Hopefully only minor ones.
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Just do the factory reset rather than chase ghosts. Nothing like a clean, fresh load... then you can see if there really are issues that need resolved. Hopefully only minor ones.
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In all honesty, though you make it sound like nothing, I am very afraid of loosing things if I factory reset. I spend a lot of time personalizing my phone just as I want it and even if I can reload my apps, I worry about the time it will take to get my battery widget color just as I want it . Not everything allows exporting the settings.
It would have been less of an issue on my rooted Galaxy S4 with Titanium Backup (which I still have as a backup), but my S10e isn't rooted. I use Alpha Backup Pro to backup apps sometimes, but after the upgrade to Android 11, it is no longer able to save external data, another disadvantage to the so-called upgrade.
If I was to factory reset my phone, what would I do then about upgrades. Can I decline the Android 11 upgrade but still accept the periodic security updates?
So far, things seem somewhat better after wiping the cache, but I don't believe the issue is resolved.
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In all honesty, though you make it sound like nothing, I am very afraid of loosing things if I factory reset. I spend a lot of time personalizing my phone just as I want it and even if I can reload my apps, I worry about the time it will take to get my battery widget color just as I want it . Not everything allows exporting the settings.
It would have been less of an issue on my rooted Galaxy S4 with Titanium Backup (which I still have as a backup), but my S10e isn't rooted. I use Alpha Backup Pro to backup apps sometimes, but after the upgrade to Android 11, it is no longer able to save external data, another disadvantage to the so-called upgrade.
If I was to factory reset my phone, what would I do then about upgrades. Can I decline the Android 11 upgrade but still accept the periodic security updates?
So far, things seem somewhat better after wiping the cache, but I don't believe the issue is resolved.
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Well designed apps that are hard to set up should allow the settings to be easily saved. Maybe some settings can be saved with Smart Switch.
Start now; streamline your reload strategy so it's easy, fast, redundant and loses no critical data.
It's a learning process that you need to put some thought into. All critical data should already be on the data drive.
Androids when they crash do it with little warning most times. Always being ready to reload makes it only a minor inconvenience.
As for 10/11 I have no useful workaround info as it doesn't concern me.
I've been running obsolete, unpatched OS's including Android for over a decade with very little trouble.
Far less trouble than upgrading to a "secure" system would cause.
No forced reloads from viruses starting with XPx64/Kitkat4. The one thing I watch like a hawk are email and downloads. Email stays in the cloud unless a download is absolutely required.
Pie continues to provide a fast, stable platform that does everything I need. No replacement needed as long as I'm using this device.
I block all updates.
If you should is up to you...
Everything related to my device is redundantly protected so if I do get hacked the most it will cost me is some time. If I suspect a device compromised (including erratic behavior) it gets reloaded.
I'm a bit ruthless about that; all OS's are expendable, data is not.
Whenever I set up a machine I assume it's will need reloaded sooner than latter. Everytime I've drifted from that premise it's been unpleasant.
Two back to back reloads on the 10+ impressed me enough to nail down my reload strategy.
2 hours instead of almost 2 days; shortcuts and fine tuning take another few hours. Whatever
blackhawk said:
Well designed apps that are hard to set up should allow the settings to be easily saved. Maybe some settings can be saved with Smart Switch.
Start now; streamline your reload strategy so it's easy, fast, redundant and loses no critical data.
It's a learning process that you need to put some thought into. All critical data should already be on the data drive.
Androids when they crash do it with little warning most times. Always being ready to reload makes it only a minor inconvenience.
As for 10/11 I have no useful workaround info as it doesn't concern me.
I've been running obsolete, unpatched OS's including Android for over a decade with very little trouble.
Far less trouble than upgrading to a "secure" system would cause.
No forced reloads from viruses starting with XPx64/Kitkat4. The one thing I watch like a hawk are email and downloads. Email stays in the cloud unless a download is absolutely required.
Pie continues to provide a fast, stable platform that does everything I need. No replacement needed as long as I'm using this device.
I block all updates.
If you should is up to you...
Everything related to my device is redundantly protected so if I do get hacked the most it will cost me is some time. If I suspect a device compromised (including erratic behavior) it gets reloaded.
I'm a bit ruthless about that; all OS's are expendable, data is not.
Whenever I set up a machine I assume it's will need reloaded sooner than latter. Everytime I've drifted from that premise it's been unpleasant.
Two back to back reloads on the 10+ impressed me enough to nail down my reload strategy.
2 hours instead of almost 2 days; shortcuts and fine tuning take another few hours. Whatever
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Thanks for all the info. I have never had a phone crash, but I should know better considering the issues I have had with computers and a PS3.
rsngfrce said:
Thanks for all the info. I have never had a phone crash, but I should know better considering the issues I have had with computers and a PS3.
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Android is a remarkably stable platform normally.
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Just do the factory reset rather than chase ghosts. Nothing like a clean, fresh load... then you can see if there really are issues that need resolved. Hopefully only minor ones.
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It has recently come to my attention that performing a factory reset, like you were suggesting, will not downgrade the system version (in this case 11 to 10), just reset the phone to a like-new state WITH the existing system version. I'm unsure if you were just suggesting a factory reset to 'clean up' Android 11, but I believed otherwise at the time. So I guess my only downgrade options would be reflashing to the previous version at a Samsung Experience Store, as you also suggested, or going the root route.
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It has recently come to my attention that performing a factory reset, like you were suggesting, will not downgrade the system version (in this case 11 to 10), just reset the phone to a like-new state WITH the existing system version. I'm unsure if you were just suggesting a factory reset to 'clean up' Android 11, but I believed otherwise at the time. So I guess my only downgrade options would be reflashing to the previous version at a Samsung Experience Store, as you also suggested, or going the root route.
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Exactly. When you don't do a factory reset after a major firmware update it tends to run poorly.
You're stuck on whatever was flashed to the device though, good or bad.
You need to reflash the old version if you want that unfortunately.
One reason myself and many others rarely upgrade an OS if we like it, it's running fast, stable and is fulfilling its mission.
need help to fix this i am lost. a factory reset is my last hope but no that would be too much trouble. never updated the phone; so stock rom. i did drop it behind the toilet a few day ago. if that did anything , "ouch!"
tried clearing camera catch, no go, but the camera works fin minus the settings...
any ideas. have not installed anything new for months. i only updated dolphin browser and it worked fine for weeks...
sd card seems to be working fine even saves photos. so i am lost
"AND I HAVE THE SNAPDRAGON VERSION"
"AND ON VERSION 10.5.00.82"
Try clearing the system cache and a hard reboot.
Is it in a good case?
May have dislodged a connector or damaged an assembly.
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Try clearing the system cache and a hard reboot.
Is it in a good case?
May have dislodged a connector or damaged an assembly.
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the camera still works fine and that's one thing i think is odd. well my lg g4 a while back the came stopped working then started working again the day i needed it. but i will try to clear the cache
If clearing the system cache do it, try clearing the cam apk data.
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If clearing the system cache do it, try clearing the cam apk data.
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i cleared cache, data and went into safe mode no go. also i tried taking out sd card
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i cleared cache, data and went into safe mode no go. also i tried taking out sd card
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That doesn't sound good.
Make sure the Samsung apks are the factory load versions.
Samsung updates can cause hell
I block everything from updating in the background... I want fair warning.
yep i never updated it and dont update phone unless it day one receiving it and can flash the phone before i set everything up and get stuck not wanting to loose things
Have you disabled anything in adb or through an app manager?
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Have you disabled anything in adb or through an app manager?
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no and no
Have you disabled any apps?
I had a similar issue and it was a Samsung process I had blocked in Package Disabler Pro. Unblocked it and the camera app works perfectly now.
Check any apps that have been disabled