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So I took my keys and basically tried scratching the TB screen...

and nothing but some scuffs which i was able to wipe off...does this mean that my TB has the good glass? i hate screen protectors and never needed one with the droid... so hopefully i wont need one for this... i hate the verizon one they put on for me... took it off

Rub some sand/gravel on it next time. You probably wont get as lucky. Typical keys are made out of mild steel so it would make sense that the glass might resist heavy damage. Have you turned your screen off and examined in good light? The bolt does supposedly have GG. I'd still get a screen protector, with a good one you'll never know it was there, the vzw one is a pos.

I already have a flaw in my screen, looks like a little dot that I have no idea how it got there as I have not done anything to cause it. This is a physical thing on the "glass" that you can see with the screen off/on. Not a dead pixel or anything.

Id still get a screen protector. I boight my TB, had it in my pocket for a day, and somehow got a scratch down the middle of the screen. If its gorilla glass, its not as good as other screens.
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Get the Steinheil Ultra Crystal (http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html). You'll never notice it's on without looking waaay too closely at your phone.

Are those screen protectors or tampons? The boxes threw me off.

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Are those screen protectors or tampons? The boxes threw me off.
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Well, I would assume screen protectors, but then I've never spent much time looking at tampon boxes.
OT.

tbcpn said:
Get the Steinheil Ultra Crystal (http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html). You'll never notice it's on without looking waaay too closely at your phone.
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+100
Also buy from their ebay store and you'll get free shipping.
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entraik said:
and nothing but some scuffs which i was able to wipe off...does this mean that my TB has the good glass? i hate screen protectors and never needed one with the droid... so hopefully i wont need one for this... i hate the verizon one they put on for me... took it off
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Well... that was dumb.

I have one of the anti glare ones from the VZW store. Hurts my eyes to look through this thing.

OP must have money to burn. I have a zagg screen cover but I would never key my phone on purpose

I have a nice 1/2" scratch right along the upper middle of my screen. Don't know what caused it but its deep, my finger nail catches on it if i rub it across it. The glass isn't that tough.

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Get the Steinheil Ultra Crystal... You'll never notice it's on without looking waaay too closely at your phone.
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I second this. I cant even see the thing on my screen (unless you look at the seam at the bottom).

Heh, keys are nothing. I keep my TB without any covers in my pocket for most of the day. I can throw anything in there with the phone and have no damage. Ironically enough though, the one day I have it in there with nothing else, I have a nice slash right down the screen. The little specks of crap that lay around your pockets are what do the damage, not the big things.

i think you guys might have faulty glass... i dunno..it seems tough to me.. way tougher than my iphone for sure...

floydiandroid said:
I second this. I cant even see the thing on my screen (unless you look at the seam at the bottom).
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It also feels like I'm actually touching the glass.

Try scratching it with a rusty nail to see what happens. Oh and can you record it and post on YouTube so we can all see!?

Forgetfull said:
Rub some sand/gravel on it next time. You probably wont get as lucky. Typical keys are made out of mild steel so it would make sense that the glass might resist heavy damage. Have you turned your screen off and examined in good light? The bolt does supposedly have GG. I'd still get a screen protector, with a good one you'll never know it was there, the vzw one is a pos.
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definetly does NOT have guerilla glass

Got this from Droid Forums (where I frequent most of the time)
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/htc-thunderbolt/120972-will-tb-have-gorilla-glass.html
http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/#featured-products
Thunderbolt is listed as having Gorilla Glass.

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definetly does NOT have guerilla glass
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Yes it does, See the attached pic or go here http://www.corninggorillaglass.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=gorilla%2520glass&utm_campaign=Branded%2520Gorilla%2520Glass#featured-products
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XO, BSE, SGP or something else?

Which will be the best screen protector? Which is the best based off your past experiences?
I am in the UK and willing to order from the US but I'm not sure which is the best. I still need to sell my unused XO from my Galaxy Nexus

UK here too. I've tried Zagg, Skinomi and BSE in the past. BSE are undoubtedly the best of those 3

I'm having trouble deciding on a screen protector as well, but I've always gotten the InvisibleSHIELD. I mostly do so because I can buy the full body skin (or any of the kits they sell), then take it to the mall and they'll apply it all free of charge. If they screw up (they never do), then they'll give me a brand new one. If it gets all scratched up, gets a bubble, or ANYTHING, I just take it to the mall (without a receipt or box or anything) and they'll replace it all totally free. If I screw up applying other protectors, I don't want to have to ship it back and wait for a new one. While others do sometimes have kiosks (from what I've heard), I have yet to actually see one. I've never minded the whole orange peel thing personally, so it doesn't really affect my decision by much. I just love their warranty in combination with the kiosks. It makes it very easy.
Another thing I'm worried about is this: If I get the full body kit, can I still use a case, or will the friction of putting the case on be enough to screw it up? Has anyone had this issue? Should I just get a front and back kit instead? I plan on using case with the phone to protect from drops and what not, I usually just get a Speck Candy Shell or something, although I'm a huge fan of the LifeProof cases since they look good and offer great protection (either or not they'll make a Nexus 4 case is a different story, I suppose).

BSE all the way
...already on order.
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How is the touch feeling of BSE ? Similar to glass or sticky like Zagg ?

They are all very similar. I usually go with Skinomi because of the price. I already pre-ordered it off Amazon.

I love XO skins. I just ordered one for the Nexus 4.
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sgp steinheil is the best it feels smooth like its not there but is extremly hard my nexus s has deep scratches on the screen protector that havent even touched the glass

The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).

Well I don't know what kind of screen protectors you've been using but the ones I've used don't have any effect on the sensitivity of the touchscreen. I am careful with my stuff anyway but the small hairline scratches really annoy/bother me for some reason.

espionage724 said:
The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
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Protection is absolutely necessary for me since I work in construction/maintenance

I personally love steinheil! ( SGP )

I'm going for Ghost Armor actually.

Your question is the best for the N4. But nobody has any of these screen protectors made for the N4, and only a couple really lucky people have the phone. None of the opinions in your poll are actually based on experience with this device and this protector. Wait until people start getting them and then look at reviews.

chrisjcks said:
BSE all the way
...already on order.
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where you order it??? Icant decide

I'm going with BSE because I've heard a lot of good things about them. Plus I like the wet apply idea. I've ALWAYS had problems with the sticky dry screen protectors. One little piece of fuzz or dust and you have annoying bubbles every where. And over time bits of fuzz/lint get up around the corners and it slowly starts to peel off.
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The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
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I'm sorry, but it doesn't matter what you do. Before you know it you'll be in direct sunlight and you'll see all sorts of small little scratches. Then later, you'll always know they're there. I'm OCD about it. I can't stand having the tiny little scratches because I want my phone to stay new. I think the first time you put a phone in your pocket, it gets some sort of tiny little scratch from something.. then over time they build up and make the screen look aweful. Plus its funny you say pens and keys because those things wont scratch gorilla glass. I've tired a key on my old Atrix and nothing comes from it. It's actually particles of dust that have maybe glass or something else hard, or sand.

I want a dry applied one and really wanna know if a dry one can cover the entire screen of Nexus 4.......

XO Skins are the ones I have been using for a few years now. From what I have read xo and sgp are the only ones without orange peel. I don't know how the sgp do on curves though I posted a review of xo in my signature when I had the samsung google nexus

BravoMotorola said:
Plus its funny you say pens and keys because those things wont scratch gorilla glass. I've tired a key on my old Atrix and nothing comes from it. It's actually particles of dust that have maybe glass or something else hard, or sand.
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Exactly, all these videos of people dropping coins/keys on the phone are pointless. swipe over that phone just once with sand paper and its all over...

Emama said:
I want a dry applied one and really wanna know if a dry one can cover the entire screen of Nexus 4.......
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Me too. I ordered some of these:
http://www.protectionfilms24.com/article/vikuiti-adqc27-screen-protector-google-nexus-4-126198.html
They were great on my G2 but it has a flat screen. I'll let people know after I get them. I will be disappointed if they don't properly stay on the screen.
What is this "Orange peel" that people are referring to?

Screen protector\Case?

Just picked up myself a 32gb version off amazon for 464 total and will be recieving monday(stupid best buy didnt have it in stock(the closest store that had it was in texas!!(im in tucson)))
but my question is, should i get a case and\or screen protector
i picked and felt around the display one in the best buy near my dorm and loved it so i bought one but i will probably be taking it with me too classes and work and stuff so i may need a case and gaurd
what do you think?? what are you reccomendations,
if i was to get a case, i dont really want a tri-fold one, and i would want it to be soft on the inside and (fake) leather on the outside
in terms of screen protectors...it shjould probably be scratch filling because i will have the tablet for a few days with normal use before finally receiving it
but im open to suggestions, any ideas?
thanks,

I have a screen protector made by mr. Shield, its great. And i ordered a moko case, but it hasnt arrived yet.

I can recommend this tempered glass screen protector: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ode=as2&tag=fiabte-20&linkId=D2LUGFFLTS3RY4YJ
It feels like the original screen, is really scratch resistant (tested with metal knife and keys with high pressure) and is very clear. The application is easy and bubble free as long as you don't have a big dust corn under the protector, fine scratches in the screen will become invisible.

simmac said:
I can recommend this tempered glass screen protector: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ode=as2&tag=fiabte-20&linkId=D2LUGFFLTS3RY4YJ
It feels like the original screen, is really scratch resistant (tested with metal knife and keys with high pressure) and is very clear. The application is easy and bubble free as long as you don't have a big dust corn under the protector, fine scratches in the screen will become invisible.
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wow sounds helpful, like something i might need.
mind if i ask a few more questions?
1. is it flexible
2. is there a high chance of it breaking during shipping
3. is it difficult to put on
4. is it difficult to take off?(like how other, non-tempered ones peel away)
5. if i were to drop the tablet, would i shatter the screen protector?
6. how much did yours cost?(was\is it on sale?)
7. what are the downsides to using this screen protector?
BTW thanks for including the link, very very helpful
ive never had a tempered glass screen protector as you can tell lol

zawata said:
1. is it flexible
2. is there a high chance of it breaking during shipping
3. is it difficult to put on
4. is it difficult to take off?(like how other, non-tempered ones peel away)
5. if i were to drop the tablet, would i shatter the screen protector?
6. how much did yours cost?(was\is it on sale?)
7. what are the downsides to using this screen protector?
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1) Yes, you can bend it a few degrees, I didn't want to bend it more.
2) The glass comes in a hard plastic case, so I would say no.
3) You have to ensure that your screen is clean (for best results turn on the shower hot until you have steam, turn it off and wait a few minutes, this will take the dust corns down. Clean the screen and apply the protector in the steamed bathroom), and I recommend to put some sticky film on the sides so you can hold the panel without touching it.
Once the protector is aligned perfectly, apply pressure and you will see that it applies itself. Don't fear bubbles, they will go away within minutes if you apply pressure and gently "massage" it.
4) I once removed a tempered glass protector from a nexus 5 (not mine though), you have to take it off on one corner which can be kind of difficult, but once you can lift it off, it won't leave any residue.
5) Probably, never had to try that.
6) Mine cost about 10€ (~12,50$), amazon showed it as sale, but most probably it always has this price.
7) With SOME styluses you may have an decreased sensibility, but my metal mash stylus works fine.
Also, it might break without falling under certain circumstances. But rarely.
I hope, I could help you!

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1) Yes, you can bend it a few degrees, I didn't want to bend it more.
2) The glass comes in a hard plastic case, so I would say no.
3) You have to ensure that your screen is clean (for best results turn on the shower hot until you have steam, turn it off and wait a few minutes, this will take the dust corns down. Clean the screen and apply the protector in the steamed bathroom), and I recommend to put some sticky film on the sides so you can hold the panel without touching it.
Once the protector is aligned perfectly, apply pressure and you will see that it applies itself. Don't fear bubbles, they will go away within minutes if you apply pressure and gently "massage" it.
4) I once removed a tempered glass protector from a nexus 5 (not mine though), you have to take it off on one corner which can be kind of difficult, but once you can lift it off, it won't leave any residue.
5) Probably, never had to try that.
6) Mine cost about 10€ (~12,50$), amazon showed it as sale, but most probably it always has this price.
7) With SOME styluses you may have an decreased sensibility, but my metal mash stylus works fine.
Also, it might break without falling under certain circumstances. But rarely.
I hope, I could help you!
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Very helpful thank you
I'll imagine the slight bending is meant to address the slight bending of the tablet
The shower technique should be especially helpful, I've never heard that one before(good thing my dorm has extra hot showers)
By sticky film do you mean tape?
Other than a small chance of breaking, i think the benefits outweigh the costs. You've successfully convinced me
Is there like a warranty I can get on it? Because that feels like something I might need

You are welcome, I first read about tempered glass protectors on this forum, since then I won't go without one.
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By sticky film do you mean tape?
Is there like a warranty I can get on it? Because that feels like something I might need
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Oh yes, english is not my mother tongue, so I forgot the vocab.
I think amazon gives you one or two years warranty, but I'm not sure about the situation in the US.

zawata said:
Just picked up myself a 32gb version off amazon for 464 total and will be recieving monday(stupid best buy didnt have it in stock(the closest store that had it was in texas!!(im in tucson)))
but my question is, should i get a case and\or screen protector
i picked and felt around the display one in the best buy near my dorm and loved it so i bought one but i will probably be taking it with me too classes and work and stuff so i may need a case and gaurd
what do you think?? what are you reccomendations,
if i was to get a case, i dont really want a tri-fold one, and i would want it to be soft on the inside and (fake) leather on the outside
in terms of screen protectors...it shjould probably be scratch filling because i will have the tablet for a few days with normal use before finally receiving it
but im open to suggestions, any ideas?
thanks,
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Get a case or a screen protector. Getting both is kinda redundant.
Get screen protector if you want to keep the look of your tablet. You might also consider getting a skin for the backside to prevent the back from getting scratched.
Get a case if you want both screen protection and some drop protection and you don't mind the slight bulkiness of the case.

mkygod said:
Get a case or a screen protector. Getting both is kinda redundant.
Get screen protector if you want to keep the look of your tablet. You might also consider getting a skin for the backside to prevent the back from getting scratched.
Get a case if you want both screen protection and some drop protection and you don't mind the slight bulkiness of the case.
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Didn't think about it like that,
The most important thing is that I don't want the screen scratched so that's top priority
The case I can see as less important though thanks

Whitestone dome delamination cause

So I have said this from the start. Whitestone has cut major corners on this product. I knew this from the first "Review" if you want to call it that because no one has reviewed this. They just make install guides and try to get you to buy it. The dead give away for me was when they sell it at around $40 when proper UV adhesive alone would cost $20 and the amount they give you would be $40. That's bulk prices. I work in the opto-electronics industry so stuff like this is what I deal with every day.
So I did some test. Using the stock Whitestone cure light, A UV oven, a Spot cure UV station, A Dymax cure station as well as others. When I took the protector off you can tell the adhesive never fully cured. This explains why you get the delamination what looks like bubbles to some or a kinda web look.
In one of the pictures marked spot cure. You will see the dot that is a proper optical adhesive. You see why the included adhesive turned to gel the stuff we use was fully cured. Both were exposed to the same light for the same time. If you use this I guarantee you will never get delamination or have a case light the protector up. But keep in mind that one tube of that is $20 but it shows how cheap the included adhesive is
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No UV cure station I have here can fully cure that junk. And it is junk. I have seen some cheap UV adhesive but this is by far the absolute worst.
I will do some more test with this adhesive. I don't even think its optical grade.
But if Whitestone wants to send me some samples of adhesive or some kits i'll be more then happy to test them and post my findings. But from the 2 kits I have seen. First had delamination the second kit direct from Whitestone aka Cellto USA in Torrance California is 100% total trash.
And here is a video of more uv light then will ever be put on this adhesive. Note that adhesive was from my first kit. So 2 kits one from Amazon the other direct from them and neither one of them could do a full cure.
https://youtu.be/yzLzeLolpb4

bignazpwns said:
So I have said this from the start. Whitestone has cut major corners on this product.
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Thanks for this in-depth info. If you check reviews for this product on Amazon and sort by new, you will see tons of others having delamination on the edges and reporting their screen still broke after a drop.
I was hoping for a good, glass screen protector it looks like Whitestone is astroturfing reviews and even comments here. Maybe they are inconsistent in production causing the disparity, but after doing research on it, I skipped Whitestone.

PHP:
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Thanks for this in-depth info. If you check reviews for this product on Amazon and sort by new, you will see tons of others having delamination on the edges and reporting their screen still broke after a drop.
I was hoping for a good, glass screen protector it looks like Whitestone is astroturfing reviews and even comments here. Maybe they are inconsistent in production causing the disparity, but after doing research on it, I skipped Whitestone.
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I'll get back with a part number and link to some good uv adhesive. Then just get the Whitestone replace the adhesive with that and it will be good to go. Install the same cure the same. Just gotta check a few adhesives out get one that flows well and gets a good cure off the oem light.

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PHP:
I'll get back with a part number and link to some good uv adhesive. Then just get the Whitestone replace the adhesive with that and it will be good to go. Install the same cure the same. Just gotta check a few adhesives out get one that flows well and gets a good cure off the oem light.
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If you are going that route, might as well just get a cheaper glass screen protector, strip any adhesive, and apply your own. Since it doesn't seem effective at drop protection, the only concern would be possible lackluster screen sensitivity. No need to pay a company for doing a bad job and cutting corners on a "premium" product.

Mattheyu said:
If you are going that route, might as well just get a cheaper glass screen protector, strip any adhesive, and apply your own. Since it doesn't seem effective at drop protection, the only concern would be possible lackluster screen sensitivity. No need to pay a company for doing a bad job and cutting corners on a "premium" product.
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You could but the little tiny bumps on the bottom of the protector help get an even coat of epoxy. You can do it without them but those would help with it.
But depending on fit the Zagg with the little strips of 2 sided tape might be the best bet. I just don't know how it will fit. I might have one laying around I can dig up and test with some uv adhesive if people really wanna see how that would work. Should be the same for any other one since they would all have flat bottoms without the little bumps.

Ok video is uploading. I test it against some ok optical adheasive. I might have to upload it when I get home. I made it to show that the stuff was fresh from the vial for the Whitestone and the optical adhesive I used was crap and it was expired. Here are some pics of it at 380x.
And I must say. The stock adhesive I dont think is optical. Because this was some pretty cheap optical adhesive and as you can see it's better.

Phone messed up and did a double post. Please delete this post.

Showing delamination at 380x proper adhesive won't do that. It just fails. This Dymax also made a stronger bond and it was even expired. Also note the optical propertys of it even failed are much better then the delaminated oem.

I am trying to understand but I have no idea what the pictures mean. Please explain briefly?
Bought a 2-set of Whitestone Dome for my Note 9, and I installed the first one and for me, it was perfect..? I made the mistake of using the Gear VR with the old adaptor (Note 8 fit) that puts pressure on the bottom part of the screen, so I got the bubbles effect on a tiny horizontal strip around 1mm high by 10mm wide. But other parts of the protector are amazingly smooth. I don't understand what is not ideal here. I believe you are warning us about something that is ****ed up, I just don't understand what..?
EDIT: also please recommend the good enough adesive, if possible at all, available at amazon.co.jp too.. I can use the second glass from the 2-pack
Will the Whitedome light suffice?

@gamekill, the left image shows the problem with the whitestone adhesive. Can you see the spiderwebs already? That is what I was getting. Whitestone sent me a replacement, but I had to pay for shipping (12 €) which I regret for doing. Their excuse is to blame the user.
@bignazpwns, how difficult is to remove the screen protector if you use a stronger UV adhesive? This whitestone one comes out very easy.

would like to know what kind of adhesive you recommend when you find it

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I second this!

Little tied up at work so ill do some more testing this week. Company I work for is a huge player in the 5g market so we're pretty busy. The picture shows delamination. That's what happens if you push on it. The adhesive does not fail because it's like a gel. It will streach. That give you that webbing or bubbles as some call. Stronger adhesive fully cured won't streach. You can push and you won't get any delamination. It will hold until the adhesive fails. So with your gear VR that part pushing on it would not happen with high quality optical adhesive. Keep in mine that line is 100um. The slide each line is 10um. So looking at a gear VR you are getting some distortion with the oem adhesive. Pixels on the note 9 are red 22um blue 24um and green 14um. So using a gear VR with the screen and oem adhesive the picture will not be as sharp due to the low quality of the adhesive. Will it be a huge impact? Probably not but it will be there and under magnification you can really see how poor the adhesive is. Under magnification the adhesive not being optical quality acts as a defuser for the light. Look good until you start to add magnification. I haven't looked at it with a gear VR because I don't have one but I know what optics they use for hmd's and you will start to see that it actas as a defuser.
Adhesives I'll test a few we got here and get some samples and test them. Removing even with a stronger adhesive should be fine. I don't know of the protector will come off in one peice but it when I poped the slides apart it wasn't like the Whitestone's oem that was like tar. This was a hard snap at the point of the adhesive failing then it lifted off.
I got a spare done screen protector. I'll clean that up and run some adhesive removal test on it. The oleophobic coating on the note 9 will help with that removal.it won't be as strong as a pure glass to glass bond like on the slides. But it can be removed. And we use methonal to help remove it on some tiny fiberoptic lenses.
But as soon as I can I'll get to more testing. Grade some adhesives on holding power. We have a machine that can mesure the force required to break that bond. And if tell you what adheasive to use if you want something like the strength of the oem or if you want something a little stronger for a case that likes to press against it.
I should have some time this week to do some test and let you know know what adhesive to order and where to order it. I'll be using the oem Whitestone dome light to cure it so my results will be the same you can get at home.

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[MENTION=3255110](...)the left image shows the problem with the whitestone adhesive. Can you see the spiderwebs already?(...)
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Yes, on a thin horizontal area at the bottom center part, right above the USB port. That is where the Gear VR connector pushed against the screen.
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(...) with your gear VR that part pushing on it would not happen with high quality optical adhesive(...)
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It would be nice indeed to use a better adhesive and not have that problem!

I have a question. If we use a stronger adhesive and when time comes you'll break the protector and if we try to remove the protector, will it damage the original glass in the removal process?
I'm also interested i. This because my current protector lost some adhesives on the curved edges.

Any update? ?

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Any update? ?
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Pretty tied up at work. I'll get more info in a day or two. I did find some adhesive if you guys never want that screen protector to come off lol.
Ordered some samples to test so soon as those get in I'll start testing those.

bignazpwns said:
I did find some adhesive if you guys never want that screen protector to come off(...)
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That is my concern. Screen protectors are supposed to be replaceable if they break. If when they get broken or removed,the original screen gets ruined, it is meaningless.
Also, if an adhesive is super strong, wouldn't if make the protector grip so strongly to the screen that if the protector shatters, the screen gets shattered too?

gamekill said:
That is my concern. Screen protectors are supposed to be replaceable if they break. If when they get broken or removed,the original screen gets ruined, it is meaningless.
Also, if an adhesive is super strong, wouldn't if make the protector grip so strongly to the screen that if the protector shatters, the screen gets shattered too?
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That's using our stuff for a permanent bond lol. I got some other stuff here that's about 40% stronger then oem but I was able to get it off no problem. I ordered the liquid version of it we use a gel version. Same adhesive ones just a gel. I'll get it on the. Pull it off and let you guys know how it is.
End of the year and the upcoming 5g were pretty busy here.

ravijob said:
You mean can't get it off like in this video?
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It's about bond strength. I got some stuff that's better then the oem. I can peal it out. Then I got some good stuff that holds 10x stronger then the oem...that will come off...with a ton of force. So I think I found the sweet spot. Checking out a gel version to see how that goes and if it will offer some impact resistance why still maintaining touch sensitivity.
When I pick the winner I'll do a video installing and the. Removing it to show everyone. For the love of God don't just put some on. Most atlre permanent and if you don't know what the propertys are just going with optical uv adhesive you will get something for the fiberoptics industry thats used to hold lenses on fibers.

Question Screen Protector

Can anyone recommend a third party screen protector that actually works ?

Samsung says you shouldn't remove the OEM screen protector... but is it okay to do so?

If you ask me... I would recommend not to remove the OEM screen protector at the same time don't use any 3rd party screen protector too...

Clusco said:
If you ask me... I would recommend not to remove the OEM screen protector at the same time don't use any 3rd party screen protector too...
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Why? Have you removed it? Any experience with other screen protectors?

I use the Skinomi screen protector on mine, been using them since my Pixel 2 XL. The Samsung one is a flimsy piece of hard plastic that loves finger prints. So glad I took the "risk"
You can find a number of videos where people apply their own. Definitely recommend, but it is scary while you're doing it
My tip after applying it: Keep the phone unfolded overnight!

buru898 said:
I use the Skinomi screen protector on mine, been using them since my Pixel 2 XL. The Samsung one is a flimsy piece of hard plastic that loves finger prints. So glad I took the "risk"
You can find a number of videos where people apply their own. Definitely recommend, but it is scary while you're doing it
My tip after applying it: Keep the phone unfolded overnight!
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Hi!
How long have you had the Skinomi protector on? Any problems? Does it feel as smooth as the stock protector? Does it cover the whole screen? Stock protector has small gaps all around the screen.
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BWA80 said:
Hi!
How long have you had the Skinomi protector on? Any problems? Does it feel as smooth as the stock protector? Does it cover the whole screen? Stock protector has small gaps all around the screen.
Some questions...
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It feels so much better. I've had it on for about 3 months now. Keep in mind I never liked glass screen protectors. The 'rubbery' ones that require water feels better, and makes sense for a phone where you're not likely to drop it on the screen
No problems, just remember not to fold the phone for at least the day afterwards (I have a very small bubble there due to my impatience). Plus, the rubbery ones self heal so it always looks great. The fact that it never shows fingerprints too. No more constantly wiping the phone after every use
Yes I know exactly the issue with crap getting along the sides. So infuriating, but this one reaches the corners well. I also put the protector touching the very top of the phone as well to eliminate the top gaps so the only real gap is the very bottom, and that isn't touched as often as every other part of the phone. I also don't remember the last time I needed to clean it
In the picture, ignore the bottom gap gunk. It looks way worse on camera for some reason
Let me know if you want any more pictures/angles

buru898 said:
It feels so much better. I've had it on for about 3 months now. Keep in mind I never liked glass screen protectors. The 'rubbery' ones that require water feels better, and makes sense for a phone where you're not likely to drop it on the screen
No problems, just remember not to fold the phone for at least the day afterwards (I have a very small bubble there due to my impatience). Plus, the rubbery ones self heal so it always looks great. The fact that it never shows fingerprints too. No more constantly wiping the phone after every use
Yes I know exactly the issue with crap getting along the sides. So infuriating, but this one reaches the corners well. I also put the protector touching the very top of the phone as well to eliminate the top gaps so the only real gap is the very bottom, and that isn't touched as often as every other part of the phone. I also don't remember the last time I needed to clean it
In the picture, ignore the bottom gap gunk. It looks way worse on camera for some reason
Let me know if you want any more pictures/angles
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When installing the Skinomi, what's the best way to deal with the hinge dip when "squeegeeing" the protector to the screen?
Just ordered the Skinomi.
I almost got T-Mobile to exchange the whole phone. They finally asked me when I bought it and determined it was still under Samsung warranty and directed me to Samsung.
Once again, Samsung sent me on a wild goose chase to Best Buy and the Samsung Experience section which, no longer exists at the 2 Best Buy's I tried.
Dismal support from Samsung!

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When installing the Skinomi, what's the best way to deal with the hinge dip when "squeegeeing" the protector to the screen?
Just ordered the Skinomi.
I almost got T-Mobile to exchange the whole phone. They finally asked me when I bought it and determined it was still under Samsung warranty and directed me to Samsung.
Once again, Samsung sent me on a wild goose chase to Best Buy and the Samsung Experience section which, no longer exists at the 2 Best Buy's I tried.
Dismal support from Samsung!
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Nice, that's the one I'm using
I think I first tried squeezing from middle outwards, but the phone did fine doing it normally (from top to bottom or vice versa). I was only worried about water getting into the hinges, but apparently these phones do well with water according to YouTube durability tests
I hear a lot of people with the same experience for the lack of Samsung support. It's a shame

Have you all read this yet:
Samsung Galaxy Z Flip 3 durability tested — read this before you buy
The Galaxy Z Flip 3 is more durable, but the foldable display itself is still fragile
www.tomsguide.com
After reading that and watching the YouTube to replace the screen protector, seems pretty scary to replace the screen protector.

The best screen protector secured at last!
After many months of scouring the internet and more money spent than I'd like to admit, I have finally found what I would consider a better screen protector than even the OEM installed one from Samsung. I have tried close to 10 different...
forum.xda-developers.com
I just made a thread about this and I'm absolutely positive I found the best screen protector by a longshot. It's also a very straightforward install, I got a perfect install my first try.