Just picked up myself a 32gb version off amazon for 464 total and will be recieving monday(stupid best buy didnt have it in stock(the closest store that had it was in texas!!(im in tucson)))
but my question is, should i get a case and\or screen protector
i picked and felt around the display one in the best buy near my dorm and loved it so i bought one but i will probably be taking it with me too classes and work and stuff so i may need a case and gaurd
what do you think?? what are you reccomendations,
if i was to get a case, i dont really want a tri-fold one, and i would want it to be soft on the inside and (fake) leather on the outside
in terms of screen protectors...it shjould probably be scratch filling because i will have the tablet for a few days with normal use before finally receiving it
but im open to suggestions, any ideas?
thanks,
I have a screen protector made by mr. Shield, its great. And i ordered a moko case, but it hasnt arrived yet.
I can recommend this tempered glass screen protector: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ode=as2&tag=fiabte-20&linkId=D2LUGFFLTS3RY4YJ
It feels like the original screen, is really scratch resistant (tested with metal knife and keys with high pressure) and is very clear. The application is easy and bubble free as long as you don't have a big dust corn under the protector, fine scratches in the screen will become invisible.
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I can recommend this tempered glass screen protector: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ode=as2&tag=fiabte-20&linkId=D2LUGFFLTS3RY4YJ
It feels like the original screen, is really scratch resistant (tested with metal knife and keys with high pressure) and is very clear. The application is easy and bubble free as long as you don't have a big dust corn under the protector, fine scratches in the screen will become invisible.
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wow sounds helpful, like something i might need.
mind if i ask a few more questions?
1. is it flexible
2. is there a high chance of it breaking during shipping
3. is it difficult to put on
4. is it difficult to take off?(like how other, non-tempered ones peel away)
5. if i were to drop the tablet, would i shatter the screen protector?
6. how much did yours cost?(was\is it on sale?)
7. what are the downsides to using this screen protector?
BTW thanks for including the link, very very helpful
ive never had a tempered glass screen protector as you can tell lol
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1. is it flexible
2. is there a high chance of it breaking during shipping
3. is it difficult to put on
4. is it difficult to take off?(like how other, non-tempered ones peel away)
5. if i were to drop the tablet, would i shatter the screen protector?
6. how much did yours cost?(was\is it on sale?)
7. what are the downsides to using this screen protector?
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1) Yes, you can bend it a few degrees, I didn't want to bend it more.
2) The glass comes in a hard plastic case, so I would say no.
3) You have to ensure that your screen is clean (for best results turn on the shower hot until you have steam, turn it off and wait a few minutes, this will take the dust corns down. Clean the screen and apply the protector in the steamed bathroom), and I recommend to put some sticky film on the sides so you can hold the panel without touching it.
Once the protector is aligned perfectly, apply pressure and you will see that it applies itself. Don't fear bubbles, they will go away within minutes if you apply pressure and gently "massage" it.
4) I once removed a tempered glass protector from a nexus 5 (not mine though), you have to take it off on one corner which can be kind of difficult, but once you can lift it off, it won't leave any residue.
5) Probably, never had to try that.
6) Mine cost about 10€ (~12,50$), amazon showed it as sale, but most probably it always has this price.
7) With SOME styluses you may have an decreased sensibility, but my metal mash stylus works fine.
Also, it might break without falling under certain circumstances. But rarely.
I hope, I could help you!
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1) Yes, you can bend it a few degrees, I didn't want to bend it more.
2) The glass comes in a hard plastic case, so I would say no.
3) You have to ensure that your screen is clean (for best results turn on the shower hot until you have steam, turn it off and wait a few minutes, this will take the dust corns down. Clean the screen and apply the protector in the steamed bathroom), and I recommend to put some sticky film on the sides so you can hold the panel without touching it.
Once the protector is aligned perfectly, apply pressure and you will see that it applies itself. Don't fear bubbles, they will go away within minutes if you apply pressure and gently "massage" it.
4) I once removed a tempered glass protector from a nexus 5 (not mine though), you have to take it off on one corner which can be kind of difficult, but once you can lift it off, it won't leave any residue.
5) Probably, never had to try that.
6) Mine cost about 10€ (~12,50$), amazon showed it as sale, but most probably it always has this price.
7) With SOME styluses you may have an decreased sensibility, but my metal mash stylus works fine.
Also, it might break without falling under certain circumstances. But rarely.
I hope, I could help you!
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Very helpful thank you
I'll imagine the slight bending is meant to address the slight bending of the tablet
The shower technique should be especially helpful, I've never heard that one before(good thing my dorm has extra hot showers)
By sticky film do you mean tape?
Other than a small chance of breaking, i think the benefits outweigh the costs. You've successfully convinced me
Is there like a warranty I can get on it? Because that feels like something I might need
You are welcome, I first read about tempered glass protectors on this forum, since then I won't go without one.
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By sticky film do you mean tape?
Is there like a warranty I can get on it? Because that feels like something I might need
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Oh yes, english is not my mother tongue, so I forgot the vocab.
I think amazon gives you one or two years warranty, but I'm not sure about the situation in the US.
zawata said:
Just picked up myself a 32gb version off amazon for 464 total and will be recieving monday(stupid best buy didnt have it in stock(the closest store that had it was in texas!!(im in tucson)))
but my question is, should i get a case and\or screen protector
i picked and felt around the display one in the best buy near my dorm and loved it so i bought one but i will probably be taking it with me too classes and work and stuff so i may need a case and gaurd
what do you think?? what are you reccomendations,
if i was to get a case, i dont really want a tri-fold one, and i would want it to be soft on the inside and (fake) leather on the outside
in terms of screen protectors...it shjould probably be scratch filling because i will have the tablet for a few days with normal use before finally receiving it
but im open to suggestions, any ideas?
thanks,
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Get a case or a screen protector. Getting both is kinda redundant.
Get screen protector if you want to keep the look of your tablet. You might also consider getting a skin for the backside to prevent the back from getting scratched.
Get a case if you want both screen protection and some drop protection and you don't mind the slight bulkiness of the case.
mkygod said:
Get a case or a screen protector. Getting both is kinda redundant.
Get screen protector if you want to keep the look of your tablet. You might also consider getting a skin for the backside to prevent the back from getting scratched.
Get a case if you want both screen protection and some drop protection and you don't mind the slight bulkiness of the case.
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Didn't think about it like that,
The most important thing is that I don't want the screen scratched so that's top priority
The case I can see as less important though thanks
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Every gadget owner loves their devices be it Cell Phones, Laptops, GPS, Gaming Consoles, etc. and would never want our devices to get scratchy, dirtily, peel off or loose their color and shine. For this some of us freaks keep cleaning out devices or cover them with cheap looking low quality plastic guard just to see it getting peeled off soon and getting all scratches just to buy another one in few weeks. This is because many of us are unaware of some of the finest Body Scratch Guards which themselves can never attain a scratch.
Yes, that’s true and this article is about Top 4 Body Guards covering not just the screen but the complete body of your device, that I came across. I’ll just be giving my honest reviews about all four of them and leave the rest on you to decide which you prefer.
you can find the comparison here:
http://winmo.techparaiso.com/best-s...isible-shields-vs-ghost-armor-vs-body-guardz/
Well based on peoples experience here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398021
I can safely say Invisible shield is not a good solution. Generally anything that adheres to your device runs the risk that your finish will lift off if you ever decide to remove the shield.
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Well based on peoples experience here....http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398021
I can safely say Invisible shield is not a good solution. Generally anything that adheres to your device runs the risk that your finish will lift off if you ever decide to remove the shield.
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i would still like to see some screenshots of bestskinsever for diamond as nothing is available anywhere.
want the best protector? Buy a psp HORI Protector, cut to size. 100% invisible and only a knife will scratch it. 2 for .99 on ebay
I'd also love to hear people experience with Best Skins Ever. I'm a sucker and always buy the zagg.com stuff, price = quality after all... but would be willing to grab a BSE skin based on peoples reviews, as the markup on zagg.com is ridiculous.
One thing, I dislike with the zagg.com skins is, after a while the protector appears as if it has a gasoline like stain in the middle of it, symmetrical to about half an inch away from the edge of the screen on all sides. So basically a mini rectangle on the inner portion of the display. Any else experience this? and does the BSE have this tendency?
P.S. Don't forget BodyGuardz
I've been using Invisible shield by Zagg since I bought my Diamond and I completly agree with Lokosis. I also feel the corners are becoming a bit rough, it looks like someone can just pull it off.
* Doesn't fit into my HTC pouch anymore (see picture attached).
* Attracts a lot of dust.
* Don't need a bulky case anymore.
* Gives the back cover a shiny effect.
well yesterday i received my best skins for diamond. i must say delivery was really fast but a little disappointed. i'll tell you why later.
also i'll be posting the pics of my diamond soon.
I bought a full cover from invisible shield about a week and a half ago but am still waiting for it to be shipped to me since I live in Australia and there is not stock here.
Didn't realize there was a cheaper alternate to it. I've got to say I'm a bit worried after just reading that post that says it can damage the screen when you remove it after a while...but hopefully I will never have to remove it
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I bought a full cover from invisible shield about a week and a half ago but am still waiting for it to be shipped to me since I live in Australia and there is not stock here.
Didn't realize there was a cheaper alternate to it. I've got to say I'm a bit worried after just reading that post that says it can damage the screen when you remove it after a while...but hopefully I will never have to remove it
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nothing to wory dude. even i first bought IS and den after an hour got to know about BSE so i ordered that too. i'd a talk with IS ppl and they say that when i receive the item, then i should take out the screen guard, put it in envelope and send it back to there address. thats it. they said they dont need the box of spray or anything. just the invisible shield in an envelope. and as soon as they receive it, they'll refund you the money. sending it back in envelope is much cheeper and you save alot. so order BSE now and wait for IS to arrive and send it back
invisible? are you blind?
Well, it's a good screen protector, but it's definitely not invisible...
Are you blind guys?
I just got the screen one and not the whole case skin because I own an o2 Ignito which has a lovely-grippy-rubber-feeling-matt-black back cover, although it is not as sexy as the standard Diamond my wife has.
I was honestly quite disappointed because it is expensive and honestly looks crap compared to cheaper alternatives.
Have you ever tried Vikuiti by 3M guys?
I have it on my Orbit (it's a PSP screen protector, I opened the Orbit and cut the film on the proper size of the display, once re-assembled you can't see any edge at all) it's impossible to leave fingerprints and it is anti-reflection.
The Diamond one is gloss finishing instead, it costs € 8 on eBay (german seller but ships worldwide)
The invisible shield finally arrived. It wouldn't stick to my screen...lol
Well it stuck to the screen, just that the edges are supposed to bend and protect the sides too and no matter how long i held the edges in their positions for they would just unpeel themselves after a couple of minutes. Gave up on the screen, the rest all went on easily and without any visible bubble thingies. I'm not sure if I really care enough to get a new screen protector for the screen, I was more worried about the back of the phone to be honest
Still kinda dissapointed that the screen protector ended up failing for me
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The invisible shield finally arrived. It wouldn't stick to my screen...lol
Well it stuck to the screen, just that the edges are supposed to bend and protect the sides too and no matter how long i held the edges in their positions for they would just unpeel themselves after a couple of minutes. Gave up on the screen, the rest all went on easily and without any visible bubble thingies. I'm not sure if I really care enough to get a new screen protector for the screen, I was more worried about the back of the phone to be honest
Still kinda dissapointed that the screen protector ended up failing for me
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i really don understand where u guys fail. i understand that d edges don stick up but it takes half an hour effort to do it. its easy but takes times and u constantly hav to make it stick.
rest both BSE and IS are great. the point is to make it wet properly and den apply.
the only issue i had is that the IS solution went in my front camera screen and has made it blurred.
rest both are the same according to me.
also to be noted that you do not need to use IS spray. instead you can even put your IS in soapy solutions and apply it like BSE.
the aim is to 1st attch is properly on front screen. let it dry and then bend the edges.
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i really don understand where u guys fail. i understand that d edges don stick up but it takes half an hour effort to do it. its easy but takes times and u constantly hav to make it stick.
rest both BSE and IS are great. the point is to make it wet properly and den apply.
the only issue i had is that the IS solution went in my front camera screen and has made it blurred.
rest both are the same according to me.
also to be noted that you do not need to use IS spray. instead you can even put your IS in soapy solutions and apply it like BSE.
the aim is to 1st attch is properly on front screen. let it dry and then bend the edges.
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I used enough of the solution, got it lined up perfectly with the phone. It was the edge bits that have to be bent to protect the sides where I went wrong. Just couldn't get them to stick and stay stuck properly for some reason
AdamHC said:
I used enough of the solution, got it lined up perfectly with the phone. It was the edge bits that have to be bent to protect the sides where I went wrong. Just couldn't get them to stick and stay stuck properly for some reason
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it takes alot of time for sure. for half an hour i kept trying and thought maybe the adhesive wasnt strong enough. but there are two things, 1st you have to use alot of spray to smoothly allign it on screen and then this excess spray avoids the sides to stick onn. so patience, repeated efforts and only when the solution dries up, that is when it starts to stick onn. very tough for sure but in the end it pays off.
BUT the diff bet IS and BSE is that BSE only covers the screen and does not cover the sides so there is no bending problem like IS.
sunnyin86 said:
it takes alot of time for sure. for half an hour i kept trying and thought maybe the adhesive wasnt strong enough. but there are two things, 1st you have to use alot of spray to smoothly allign it on screen and then this excess spray avoids the sides to stick onn. so patience, repeated efforts and only when the solution dries up, that is when it starts to stick onn. very tough for sure but in the end it pays off.
BUT the diff bet IS and BSE is that BSE only covers the screen and does not cover the sides so there is no bending problem like IS.
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In that case I think I might buy one of the BSE. I think that trying to protect the sides is simply too much effort and is tedious. Besides that, the sides are fairly scratch resistant and you can't even see those scratches if them do occur without having to look for them anyway. I really think IS should have skipped trying to protect them or made a second piece to go around the outside.
both are sam so betteer to opt for bse. am loving it.
more pros n cons on bse please......
i found that they didn't provide spray bottle....
mygreatdiamond said:
more pros n cons on bse please......
i found that they didn't provide spray bottle....
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its best not to have spray. as spray gets into front camera and spoils it. best to use simple soap water.
BodyGuardz vs BestSkinsEver
Hello,
Here is my experience. I had a InvisibleSHIELD on my iPod Classic and it was great so I was considering buying one but after reading some of the the feed back it seemed that the product was good but the fit for our diamonds and even the iPhone (which i am now looking for) was not great.
I then heard about BestSkinsEver and because it was so cheap decided to go ahead and try it. I got it over 2 months ago and when I received it I applied it immediately. I have done a few of these so and since I am some what of a perfectionist I applied it to the best I could. It looked OK but after a few weeks the corners started peeling. Also due to the way the backing is placed it puts stress in areas which causes other areas to lift off (this is mostly on the corners). I ended up using a nail clipper to start clipping areas that were peeling off. After about 2 months it started to peal even more so I decided to go back to the reviews and see what was available. After doing some research I decided to go with the 12 piece BodyGuardz. It came in a set of 2 which is nice when i transfer the phone to my wife.
So all of this is to tell you that my first impressions of the BodyGuardz is well as good as I felt when I put the InvisibleSHIELD on my first iPod Classic. For me it did take a while (about 2-3 hours) to apply. This was not done in one sitting but instead because it was a 12 piece I applied each piece with 10 minute intervals allowing for tackiness to set in and so it would be easier to handle as I continued with the many pieces. First major thing I noticed and was really happy about was the BodyGuardz stickiness was considerably more than the BestSkinsEver. It stuck to the corners almost right away. Although throughout the process I did press down on the corners it was quite a bit easier as the BestSkinsEver did not have good stickiness. Also on a side note when i removed the BestSkinsEver it came of like a sticker which i know from my previous iPod is not normal and it usually takes a lot more effort to get it off carefully. Overall I am very happy at my first impressions of the BodyGuardz and the quality of the material seems to be better than the BestSkinsEver. Not to mention the 12 piece may seem like a lot of work but having individual pieces allows for no stress on the film in weird areas allowing it to sit flat with no parts lifting off (so far, i'll update in a month or two). Which is not the same case for the BestSkinsEver and from what I hear the InvisibleSHIELD. Newayz I hope this review helps someone.
Justin
Mr. Makk said:
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I never sprayed the device only the shield itself. I would not recommend spraying the device. That said I do like the spray on the shield as it is a bit more even but you can use any spray bottle. I got one with Bodyguardz but there was not enough fluid in it so i had to fill it up with my own solution newayz.
As you can see that many of us use screen protector.
But I always think, how dose the screen protector work as it should be or just a piece of cover.
If you think that works for you, please let us know why and how.
Thanks
yes its always help/.
yes
Yes it works,
you'll get less scratches, and when you can change it every time you want
Yes it helps, against scratches. But i get a less good feeling with my fingers on the screen, so i have removed my protection.
yes its always helpful... it protects your sccreen from damage n scrathes.. do u even know how much a new sceen costs?
Yep, kind off it helps in many ways. Like even if I get multiple scratches It wouldn't matter as I can get the screen guard changed. But If I didn't had it at ones that would cost me more.
Though now a days its trend for Gorilla Glass and vise versa!
I do not use it anymore. I had a cover for my Galaxy S2, and also a plastic 'sheet' to protect the front.
In my line of work I had quite some rough jobs wich resulted in hairy situations for the phone. Eventually I switched jobs last year, and these days I sit behind a desk. There is no use for the cover anymore. The front itself can withstand most of the daily stuff.
The cover for the back etc. might be handy if you drop your phone, but did you ever see those phone-drop-tests?
Bottomline: Obviously it's safer, but I don`t think people really need them.
hashkiki said:
As you can see that many of us use screen protector.
But I always think, how dose the screen protector work as it should be or just a piece of cover.
If you think that works for you, please let us know why and how.
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Well, I bought my xperia x10 USED. Seller told me that it has BIG SCRATCH on the bottom of the screen (btw, xperias screen is scratch-resist), and I told him that he has to lower the price, so he lowered price for 20€ ..When I bought it, I found out that there is a screen protector on it..So, I removed it, and I have a brand new phone..without scratch on the bottom of the screen ofcourse ..
So, if you are a seller, remove it if there is any scratches or something else..If you are a buyer, try to screw up a seller
Changed several of them already and my screen still doesn't have scratche
I've been using them on my epic 4g that I have had for the last couple months. But before that I didn't use them on my lg optimus v or HTC Eris.
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I use no screen protector but I had one. There are no scratches on my phone now and I can wipe better. You have to be carefully without a protector.
I use a protector for 2 reasons. Firstly, for peace of mind. Yes, it's Gorilla glass which means it's less likely to get scratched, but there's no glass in the world that is completely scratch-proof, so it makes sense to cover it for that extra protection. Secondly, I use a matte (anti-glare) protector. It's good for reducing reflections and helping read the screen in brighter light, but it also stops fingerprints and greasy smudge marks.
Each to their own, but if I've got a £500 phone then I see no point in *not* chucking a few more quid at a protector.
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In my opinion, screen protectors can be very useful. There are different types of screen protectors, that offer different benefits to suit your needs.
The first kind of screen protector is a "clear" type, which is obviously clear, that offers scratch protection. The drawback of this type of protection is, because of the clear, craystal like finish, it creates a glare like effect, making it difficult to see the screen in direct sunlight, or brightly lit rooms.
The next type of screen protector (my favorite) is an "anti-glare", which has a matte finish. This type of screen protector not only prevents scratching, but it also cuts out the glare, does a great job of hiding fingerprints and smudges. It also provides a better feel when touching the screen, removing that "sticky" feeling when sliding your finger across the screen. The downside to this type of screen protector is that it slightly takes away from the sharpness or detail of the display. (only slightly though). A fair trade off, in my opinion.
The third type of screen protector is know as a "mirror" type. This protector has a mirror finish, which actually looks like a mirror. This type offers scratch protection, and because of it's mirror finish, also provides a level of privacy, making it difficult for other people to see what's on your screen. The downside to this type of protector is, because of the mirror finish, it makes it extremely difficult to see the screen under any lighting conditions. It also doesn't hide scratches very well.
Hope this helps!!
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i had a screen protector but i took it off, i didnt like it, it just didnt feel good, so i bought a phone bag. i only take my phone out of the bag when im really using it. no scratches so far. id reccomend a phone back and no protetor, but its everyones personal opinion how to use phone
It depends... If you have your phone in the same pocket as your keys it's usefull to have one. When you have your phone in an case it's not that usefull.
I like screen protectors but my hands and fingers are so dam rough it scratches the screen protector up, so I go threw screen protector a couple weeks, the protector would just get so scratch up
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If you are rough on your phone, then yes; else no.
I've never used one and don't have notible scratches, but then again, I'm always very aware of how I'm handling my phone, and when I carry it around, I'll keep it in its pouch.
screen protector
very useful... if you plan sell your tab some day
I like my thing to be in very good shape, so yes
Which will be the best screen protector? Which is the best based off your past experiences?
I am in the UK and willing to order from the US but I'm not sure which is the best. I still need to sell my unused XO from my Galaxy Nexus
UK here too. I've tried Zagg, Skinomi and BSE in the past. BSE are undoubtedly the best of those 3
I'm having trouble deciding on a screen protector as well, but I've always gotten the InvisibleSHIELD. I mostly do so because I can buy the full body skin (or any of the kits they sell), then take it to the mall and they'll apply it all free of charge. If they screw up (they never do), then they'll give me a brand new one. If it gets all scratched up, gets a bubble, or ANYTHING, I just take it to the mall (without a receipt or box or anything) and they'll replace it all totally free. If I screw up applying other protectors, I don't want to have to ship it back and wait for a new one. While others do sometimes have kiosks (from what I've heard), I have yet to actually see one. I've never minded the whole orange peel thing personally, so it doesn't really affect my decision by much. I just love their warranty in combination with the kiosks. It makes it very easy.
Another thing I'm worried about is this: If I get the full body kit, can I still use a case, or will the friction of putting the case on be enough to screw it up? Has anyone had this issue? Should I just get a front and back kit instead? I plan on using case with the phone to protect from drops and what not, I usually just get a Speck Candy Shell or something, although I'm a huge fan of the LifeProof cases since they look good and offer great protection (either or not they'll make a Nexus 4 case is a different story, I suppose).
BSE all the way
...already on order.
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How is the touch feeling of BSE ? Similar to glass or sticky like Zagg ?
They are all very similar. I usually go with Skinomi because of the price. I already pre-ordered it off Amazon.
I love XO skins. I just ordered one for the Nexus 4.
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sgp steinheil is the best it feels smooth like its not there but is extremly hard my nexus s has deep scratches on the screen protector that havent even touched the glass
The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
Well I don't know what kind of screen protectors you've been using but the ones I've used don't have any effect on the sensitivity of the touchscreen. I am careful with my stuff anyway but the small hairline scratches really annoy/bother me for some reason.
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The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
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Protection is absolutely necessary for me since I work in construction/maintenance
I personally love steinheil! ( SGP )
I'm going for Ghost Armor actually.
Your question is the best for the N4. But nobody has any of these screen protectors made for the N4, and only a couple really lucky people have the phone. None of the opinions in your poll are actually based on experience with this device and this protector. Wait until people start getting them and then look at reviews.
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BSE all the way
...already on order.
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where you order it??? Icant decide
I'm going with BSE because I've heard a lot of good things about them. Plus I like the wet apply idea. I've ALWAYS had problems with the sticky dry screen protectors. One little piece of fuzz or dust and you have annoying bubbles every where. And over time bits of fuzz/lint get up around the corners and it slowly starts to peel off.
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The best screen protector... is you! Don't slide your phone across the table, don't drop it, and don't put it in your pocket with potentially "dangerous" things (pens, keys, etc.), and all should be ok
I'm not a big fan of screen protectors; I like to have full touch control with my screen, and would rather not worry about what was the cause of my screen not registering that input (was it the screen protector, or just the phone itself?).
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I'm sorry, but it doesn't matter what you do. Before you know it you'll be in direct sunlight and you'll see all sorts of small little scratches. Then later, you'll always know they're there. I'm OCD about it. I can't stand having the tiny little scratches because I want my phone to stay new. I think the first time you put a phone in your pocket, it gets some sort of tiny little scratch from something.. then over time they build up and make the screen look aweful. Plus its funny you say pens and keys because those things wont scratch gorilla glass. I've tired a key on my old Atrix and nothing comes from it. It's actually particles of dust that have maybe glass or something else hard, or sand.
I want a dry applied one and really wanna know if a dry one can cover the entire screen of Nexus 4.......
XO Skins are the ones I have been using for a few years now. From what I have read xo and sgp are the only ones without orange peel. I don't know how the sgp do on curves though I posted a review of xo in my signature when I had the samsung google nexus
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Plus its funny you say pens and keys because those things wont scratch gorilla glass. I've tired a key on my old Atrix and nothing comes from it. It's actually particles of dust that have maybe glass or something else hard, or sand.
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Exactly, all these videos of people dropping coins/keys on the phone are pointless. swipe over that phone just once with sand paper and its all over...
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I want a dry applied one and really wanna know if a dry one can cover the entire screen of Nexus 4.......
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Me too. I ordered some of these:
http://www.protectionfilms24.com/article/vikuiti-adqc27-screen-protector-google-nexus-4-126198.html
They were great on my G2 but it has a flat screen. I'll let people know after I get them. I will be disappointed if they don't properly stay on the screen.
What is this "Orange peel" that people are referring to?
Hey guys
I'm a new owner of a new Razr I and I want to share with you that BestSkinsEver is making a skin for the Razr M, wich has exactly the same dimension as our beloved Razr I...
I've used the screen and body skins for my Galaxy Nexus and I can assure that it's awesome... The best screen protector I've used... much better than dry applied ones...
http://www.bestskinsever.com/motorola-droid-razr-m-skin
I'm just waiting for them to star selling :good:
Are you using any screen protectors at the moment?
I'm using the atfoliX FX-Clear screen protection. It's great to apply, you can re-use it by washing it. Not a single air bubble at the main screen.
Best part is: After i asked for it, they now also produce a smaller film for the glossy area at the back of the phone! I think it's the only manufacturer that offers it, it now comes with the normal films. I think it's based on silicone or something, at least it's not that ordinary "try to apply without air inclusions beneath it".
I can recommend it 100%, as Gorilla Glas does not seem to be as scratch-resistant as advertised (take the Asus Padfone; from inserting it into it's station many users have scratches). 100% invisible except the cut-out at the front cam.
It's a german manufacturer so i don't now if you can get it outside of germany. Some protections are sold outside germany, but not for every single device. Price is okay as it is 3 films for 5€.
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I'm using the atfoliX FX-Clear screen protection. It's great to apply, you can re-use it by washing it. Not a single air bubble at the main screen.
Best part is: After i asked for it, they now also produce a smaller film for the glossy area at the back of the phone! I think it's the only manufacturer that offers it, it now comes with the normal films. I think it's based on silicone or something, at least it's not that ordinary "try to apply without air inclusions beneath it".
I can recommend it 100%, as Gorilla Glas does not seem to be as scratch-resistant as advertised (take the Asus Padfone; from inserting it into it's station many users have scratches). 100% invisible except the cut-out at the front cam.
It's a german manufacturer so i don't now if you can get it outside of germany. Some protections are sold outside germany, but not for every single device. Price is okay as it is 3 films for 5€.
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really great screen protectors i like this.
They have just been dispatched
CentaXx said:
I'm using the atfoliX FX-Clear screen protection. It's great to apply, you can re-use it by washing it. Not a single air bubble at the main screen.
Best part is: After i asked for it, they now also produce a smaller film for the glossy area at the back of the phone! I think it's the only manufacturer that offers it, it now comes with the normal films. I think it's based on silicone or something, at least it's not that ordinary "try to apply without air inclusions beneath it".
I can recommend it 100%, as Gorilla Glas does not seem to be as scratch-resistant as advertised (take the Asus Padfone; from inserting it into it's station many users have scratches). 100% invisible except the cut-out at the front cam.
It's a german manufacturer so i don't now if you can get it outside of germany. Some protections are sold outside germany, but not for every single device. Price is okay as it is 3 films for 5€.
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I have just ordered them! they thanks for your recommendation!
motorola = a big letdown
I think Motorola make great phones only thing is that they 'divide' themself from others. They never sell worldwide and always depend on ONE stupid provider: Verizon. Thats why Motorola will never be popular and their brand will soon be forgotten...
Why would you need a screen protector ?
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Why would you need a screen protector ?
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Because you better protect the display.
Protect it from what? ... your fingers?
Then why bother buying a phone with gorilla glass?
I agree ... if you go with your phone in a hostile environment then yes, you have to protect it (like .. tracking while mountain biking). But in normal daily usage, the phone (any phone) feels just great in the original form.
As already mentioned, have a look at the Asus Padfone. It uses Gorilla Glas, too, under specific circumstances scratches may occour anyway.
http://www.amazon.de/atFoliX-Displa...0XGO/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357078998&sr=8-1
Just watch the pictures and tell me if you see any difference apart from the front cam cutout. I can tell you that you won't notice any difference, no one noticed the protection and IF i accidently put keys into the same pocket as my phone (won't happen as i have a case, too) at least the display won't get scratches. Probably the protection will, so just throw it away and apply the next one. You receive 3 when buying it for 4,50€. I don't get paid for writing this, but it's not like this was a big amout of money.
The gorilla glas can and will get scratches, too, but not as fast as normal glas.
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As already mentioned, have a look at the Asus Padfone. It uses Gorilla Glas, too, under specific circumstances scratches may occour anyway.
Just watch the pictures and tell me if you see any difference apart from the front cam cutout. I can tell you that you won't notice any difference, no one noticed the protection and IF i accidently put keys into the same pocket as my phone (won't happen as i have a case, too) at least the display won't get scratches. Probably the protection will, so just throw it away and apply the next one. You receive 3 when buying it for 4,50€. I don't get paid for writing this, but it's not like this was a big amout of money.
The gorilla glas can and will get scratches, too, but not as fast as normal glas.
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quote everything!
The gorilla glass CAN get scratches. Your phone will NOT get scratched in "normal daily usage" - swiping and touching it with your fingers, car keys bumping with your phone, etc. As for the ASUS Padfone, it gets easily scratched as there are no borders to protect it. Also, I believe it is due to other issues like when they insert it on the tablet.
I own an S3 and it is gorilla glass 2 but got some scratches when it fell and slid on the floor (tiles). This is because there are no borders around the screen of the S3 so the gorilla glass takes all the beating.
That's what I said. If you intend to beat-up your phone, then you better put a rugged skin and a thick screen protector. Otherwise, just use it. I do not intend to "protect" it from accidental miss-usage sacrificing the beauty of the device for this. Accidents will always occur ... you have to accept this. And your phone might get a cracked screen even with a screen protector on it (if dropped in the unlucky position, on the corner). So .. why bother?
I have been using mine without a screen protector, and it now has a few tiny scratches.
I think this whole 'gorilla glass' thing is just a marketing gimmick.. I've had XDAs many (many, many) years ago without screen protectors that went through far worse than what this phone has had to go through, and they were fine.
One has to understand the fact the gorilla glass is a reinforced glass ... but still a glass. And a sand particle you catch in your pocket will likely scratch the gorilla glass ... it is a simple matter of material hardness.
Here is a more detailed explanation: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866049
For brazillians out there:
ttp://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-454256984-pelicula-premium-motorola-razr-i-xt890-frete-gratis-_JM
(É só colocar um h antes do link)
I love the way the screen does not pick up greasy fingerprints. This is not the same with screen protector on though. Is there one as good as that?
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I've been using atFolix FX-Clear Film for Razr I and I'm really happy with it.
Doesn't grease at all (but I make sure I don't have greasy hands before using my phone).
I don't know if it actually works as well as they claim it does but this Rhino Shield seems like a seriously impressive product...
http://shopify.evolutivelabs.com/products/rhino-shield-phone
They don't currently make one for the Razr I but I've spoken to them and they say they would probably produce one if they were to receive 100 orders.
What is the likelihood of that do you think? Anyone interested?
Naunaud said:
I've been using atFolix FX-Clear Film for Razr I and I'm really happy with it.
Doesn't grease at all (but I make sure I don't have greasy hands before using my phone).
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I´m also using atFolix FX-Clear. It fits realy perfect on Razr i. Easy to apply with no air bubbles.
But after now 6 months of use i think the "grease protection" is gone away...
I need more time for cleaning of the phone than before and its hard to remove the grease
a friend has a rough screen-protection (not cristal clear) this realy take no fingerprints.
this rough screen-protection i will try next time.
apply a screen-protection is the first thing i do after unpacking a new phone!
There is nothing worse than a scratch on the (real) display! -> great value loss when selling
My Razr I from Three came with one applied ... it's not the cloudy film they normally put on new phones either. Either way, saved me a few quid trying to find one.
So I have said this from the start. Whitestone has cut major corners on this product. I knew this from the first "Review" if you want to call it that because no one has reviewed this. They just make install guides and try to get you to buy it. The dead give away for me was when they sell it at around $40 when proper UV adhesive alone would cost $20 and the amount they give you would be $40. That's bulk prices. I work in the opto-electronics industry so stuff like this is what I deal with every day.
So I did some test. Using the stock Whitestone cure light, A UV oven, a Spot cure UV station, A Dymax cure station as well as others. When I took the protector off you can tell the adhesive never fully cured. This explains why you get the delamination what looks like bubbles to some or a kinda web look.
In one of the pictures marked spot cure. You will see the dot that is a proper optical adhesive. You see why the included adhesive turned to gel the stuff we use was fully cured. Both were exposed to the same light for the same time. If you use this I guarantee you will never get delamination or have a case light the protector up. But keep in mind that one tube of that is $20 but it shows how cheap the included adhesive is
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No UV cure station I have here can fully cure that junk. And it is junk. I have seen some cheap UV adhesive but this is by far the absolute worst.
I will do some more test with this adhesive. I don't even think its optical grade.
But if Whitestone wants to send me some samples of adhesive or some kits i'll be more then happy to test them and post my findings. But from the 2 kits I have seen. First had delamination the second kit direct from Whitestone aka Cellto USA in Torrance California is 100% total trash.
And here is a video of more uv light then will ever be put on this adhesive. Note that adhesive was from my first kit. So 2 kits one from Amazon the other direct from them and neither one of them could do a full cure.
https://youtu.be/yzLzeLolpb4
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So I have said this from the start. Whitestone has cut major corners on this product.
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Thanks for this in-depth info. If you check reviews for this product on Amazon and sort by new, you will see tons of others having delamination on the edges and reporting their screen still broke after a drop.
I was hoping for a good, glass screen protector it looks like Whitestone is astroturfing reviews and even comments here. Maybe they are inconsistent in production causing the disparity, but after doing research on it, I skipped Whitestone.
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Thanks for this in-depth info. If you check reviews for this product on Amazon and sort by new, you will see tons of others having delamination on the edges and reporting their screen still broke after a drop.
I was hoping for a good, glass screen protector it looks like Whitestone is astroturfing reviews and even comments here. Maybe they are inconsistent in production causing the disparity, but after doing research on it, I skipped Whitestone.
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I'll get back with a part number and link to some good uv adhesive. Then just get the Whitestone replace the adhesive with that and it will be good to go. Install the same cure the same. Just gotta check a few adhesives out get one that flows well and gets a good cure off the oem light.
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I'll get back with a part number and link to some good uv adhesive. Then just get the Whitestone replace the adhesive with that and it will be good to go. Install the same cure the same. Just gotta check a few adhesives out get one that flows well and gets a good cure off the oem light.
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If you are going that route, might as well just get a cheaper glass screen protector, strip any adhesive, and apply your own. Since it doesn't seem effective at drop protection, the only concern would be possible lackluster screen sensitivity. No need to pay a company for doing a bad job and cutting corners on a "premium" product.
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If you are going that route, might as well just get a cheaper glass screen protector, strip any adhesive, and apply your own. Since it doesn't seem effective at drop protection, the only concern would be possible lackluster screen sensitivity. No need to pay a company for doing a bad job and cutting corners on a "premium" product.
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You could but the little tiny bumps on the bottom of the protector help get an even coat of epoxy. You can do it without them but those would help with it.
But depending on fit the Zagg with the little strips of 2 sided tape might be the best bet. I just don't know how it will fit. I might have one laying around I can dig up and test with some uv adhesive if people really wanna see how that would work. Should be the same for any other one since they would all have flat bottoms without the little bumps.
Ok video is uploading. I test it against some ok optical adheasive. I might have to upload it when I get home. I made it to show that the stuff was fresh from the vial for the Whitestone and the optical adhesive I used was crap and it was expired. Here are some pics of it at 380x.
And I must say. The stock adhesive I dont think is optical. Because this was some pretty cheap optical adhesive and as you can see it's better.
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Showing delamination at 380x proper adhesive won't do that. It just fails. This Dymax also made a stronger bond and it was even expired. Also note the optical propertys of it even failed are much better then the delaminated oem.
I am trying to understand but I have no idea what the pictures mean. Please explain briefly?
Bought a 2-set of Whitestone Dome for my Note 9, and I installed the first one and for me, it was perfect..? I made the mistake of using the Gear VR with the old adaptor (Note 8 fit) that puts pressure on the bottom part of the screen, so I got the bubbles effect on a tiny horizontal strip around 1mm high by 10mm wide. But other parts of the protector are amazingly smooth. I don't understand what is not ideal here. I believe you are warning us about something that is ****ed up, I just don't understand what..?
EDIT: also please recommend the good enough adesive, if possible at all, available at amazon.co.jp too.. I can use the second glass from the 2-pack
Will the Whitedome light suffice?
@gamekill, the left image shows the problem with the whitestone adhesive. Can you see the spiderwebs already? That is what I was getting. Whitestone sent me a replacement, but I had to pay for shipping (12 €) which I regret for doing. Their excuse is to blame the user.
@bignazpwns, how difficult is to remove the screen protector if you use a stronger UV adhesive? This whitestone one comes out very easy.
would like to know what kind of adhesive you recommend when you find it
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would like to know what kind of adhesive you recommend when you find it
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I second this!
Little tied up at work so ill do some more testing this week. Company I work for is a huge player in the 5g market so we're pretty busy. The picture shows delamination. That's what happens if you push on it. The adhesive does not fail because it's like a gel. It will streach. That give you that webbing or bubbles as some call. Stronger adhesive fully cured won't streach. You can push and you won't get any delamination. It will hold until the adhesive fails. So with your gear VR that part pushing on it would not happen with high quality optical adhesive. Keep in mine that line is 100um. The slide each line is 10um. So looking at a gear VR you are getting some distortion with the oem adhesive. Pixels on the note 9 are red 22um blue 24um and green 14um. So using a gear VR with the screen and oem adhesive the picture will not be as sharp due to the low quality of the adhesive. Will it be a huge impact? Probably not but it will be there and under magnification you can really see how poor the adhesive is. Under magnification the adhesive not being optical quality acts as a defuser for the light. Look good until you start to add magnification. I haven't looked at it with a gear VR because I don't have one but I know what optics they use for hmd's and you will start to see that it actas as a defuser.
Adhesives I'll test a few we got here and get some samples and test them. Removing even with a stronger adhesive should be fine. I don't know of the protector will come off in one peice but it when I poped the slides apart it wasn't like the Whitestone's oem that was like tar. This was a hard snap at the point of the adhesive failing then it lifted off.
I got a spare done screen protector. I'll clean that up and run some adhesive removal test on it. The oleophobic coating on the note 9 will help with that removal.it won't be as strong as a pure glass to glass bond like on the slides. But it can be removed. And we use methonal to help remove it on some tiny fiberoptic lenses.
But as soon as I can I'll get to more testing. Grade some adhesives on holding power. We have a machine that can mesure the force required to break that bond. And if tell you what adheasive to use if you want something like the strength of the oem or if you want something a little stronger for a case that likes to press against it.
I should have some time this week to do some test and let you know know what adhesive to order and where to order it. I'll be using the oem Whitestone dome light to cure it so my results will be the same you can get at home.
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[MENTION=3255110](...)the left image shows the problem with the whitestone adhesive. Can you see the spiderwebs already?(...)
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Yes, on a thin horizontal area at the bottom center part, right above the USB port. That is where the Gear VR connector pushed against the screen.
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(...) with your gear VR that part pushing on it would not happen with high quality optical adhesive(...)
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It would be nice indeed to use a better adhesive and not have that problem!
I have a question. If we use a stronger adhesive and when time comes you'll break the protector and if we try to remove the protector, will it damage the original glass in the removal process?
I'm also interested i. This because my current protector lost some adhesives on the curved edges.
Any update? ?
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Any update? ?
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Pretty tied up at work. I'll get more info in a day or two. I did find some adhesive if you guys never want that screen protector to come off lol.
Ordered some samples to test so soon as those get in I'll start testing those.
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I did find some adhesive if you guys never want that screen protector to come off(...)
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That is my concern. Screen protectors are supposed to be replaceable if they break. If when they get broken or removed,the original screen gets ruined, it is meaningless.
Also, if an adhesive is super strong, wouldn't if make the protector grip so strongly to the screen that if the protector shatters, the screen gets shattered too?
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That is my concern. Screen protectors are supposed to be replaceable if they break. If when they get broken or removed,the original screen gets ruined, it is meaningless.
Also, if an adhesive is super strong, wouldn't if make the protector grip so strongly to the screen that if the protector shatters, the screen gets shattered too?
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That's using our stuff for a permanent bond lol. I got some other stuff here that's about 40% stronger then oem but I was able to get it off no problem. I ordered the liquid version of it we use a gel version. Same adhesive ones just a gel. I'll get it on the. Pull it off and let you guys know how it is.
End of the year and the upcoming 5g were pretty busy here.
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You mean can't get it off like in this video?
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It's about bond strength. I got some stuff that's better then the oem. I can peal it out. Then I got some good stuff that holds 10x stronger then the oem...that will come off...with a ton of force. So I think I found the sweet spot. Checking out a gel version to see how that goes and if it will offer some impact resistance why still maintaining touch sensitivity.
When I pick the winner I'll do a video installing and the. Removing it to show everyone. For the love of God don't just put some on. Most atlre permanent and if you don't know what the propertys are just going with optical uv adhesive you will get something for the fiberoptics industry thats used to hold lenses on fibers.