Huawei Mate 10 Lite vs Samsung Screens in sunlight/natural lighting - General Questions and Answers

Hi my mom really like the Aurora Blue version of Huawei Mate 10 Lite, the only thing that stops us from getting it is that were not sure how it will behave under natural light conditions, which is why we still keep Samsung as an option.... I had an IPS display phone (although i admit the phone wasn't that great), and while in interiors even lighten ones it was okay visibility wise, outside it was horrible, many times not having decent visibility even in cloudy situations.... How is the Huawei Mate 10 Lite in natural light situations compared to something like Samsung's C7/C5 ?

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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Honor 9, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Honor 9 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
overall a great device with great cam, good battery life, KIRIN960 is a beast
Great device.
The honor 9 looks extremely sexy, don't you think?
EriTay said:
The honor 9 looks extremely sexy, don't you think?
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It does indeed! I've just ordered mine from flosmall.com can't wait for the 22nd for it to come to my place!!!!!
battilory said:
It does indeed! I've just ordered mine from flosmall.com can't wait for the 22nd for it to come to my place!!!!!
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You should check the robin-egg color variant (available in china )
It is damn gorgeous
I'm using Honor 9 for a few days and everything is perfect
Overall 100% love for this phone. :laugh:
Two thumbs up for this.
It's beautiful device with good specs and features..
Just loved it..
I had bought a Xiaomi Note 4X back in August in 36 monthly installments loan from the shop i work at.After i saw Honor 9 in blue , I had no hesitation...its on my desk now and yesterday the Note 4x was sold...
Amazing design , hidden power in a small package and very convenient fingerprint sensor !
I come from a Galaxy Note 3 that had custom roms for the last 2 years and I wanted to get a smaller phone.
Pros:
+Fingerprint Sensor
Incredibly fast and reliable
+Headphone Jack
+Value for money
+GPS - Very fast and stable
+4G, 3G, 2G all better than my Note 3
Mediocre:
+/-Design
This thing just look awsome and feels great but is is very slippery. You have to use a case or it will slide down your couch or nightstand 100 %.
That nills the super nice feature of a camera that is plain with the backcover.
Great idea to have the volume rocker and the power button on the same side
+/- Build quality
Overall really nice but you can feel some edges where the materials meet and the buttons are a bit wobbly, nothing to worry about though.
+/- Notification LED
Ok, it is there, but the settings limit it very much. You can not effin turn it off while your phone is charging, resulting in a night-light next to you when you charge at night.
Nicely hidden under the mesh of the ear speaker.
+/- Camera
Aparture 2.2 is just not state of the art anymore. At night the pictures are hideous.
2x zoom combines the colour and monochrome sensor with minimal detail loss at day but at night the pictures do not look good (also unzoomed)
Good day shots with poor edge detection for the bokeh effect, some nice and unique setting options in the camera menu
+/- Speaker
Yeah, Stereo speakers are still the best you can get but compared to my Note 3 the speaker is a huge improvement and sounds pretty good
+-/ Headphone jack position.
It is on the bottom of the phone, would have beed nice if they found a way to put it on top but that is a matter of taste I guess
Cons:
-Screen
Coming from a Note 3 (launched 2013) with an AMOLED the screen is really a let down for me.
Especially on low brightness it is not as comfortable for your eyes as the Note 3 screen and pixels are clearly visable altough it is much small an has the same resolution.
Double tab to wake is missing (was available on the honor 7)
Max brightness is OK but not top (definity enough in 99 % of all use cases)
Blacks look quite good for an LCD
Good viewing angles
- Front Camera
"Beauty" filter can not be turned of fully
Very low quality sensor
-No IP certification - your H9 will definitely die in water over time but should survive the toilet drop of doom if you are quick enough to get it out
Nogo:
-Software
Bought with B130 Firmware, now on B180 and there is a major issue with the touch screen as you can read here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-9/help/scrolling-delay-t3665877
If this is a hardware and not a software but it is even worse
Also scrolling is not smooth and you get jump-loading, most clearly visable on the 9gag app.
This bothers me less than the scrolling delay but it is still a major issue, as the hardware should be capable of perfect smooth scrolling with ease.
No option to wake but not unlock your phone with the fingerprint sensor. Either you unlock it and come to the homescreen with a safed finger ID or if the finger ID is not saved or recognised (what very rarely happens) the phone just vibrates but the screen stays black
I swidched from Honor 7 and well, I can't get used to the larger height and I'm missing soft navigation bar too. The home button and top of screen are too far away, which makes it difficult to use it. It is really pitty, that soft navigation bar cannot be enabled
Honor 9 is amazing device worked fanstastic speed!
Camera is beast on new software B180 on video record is on software stabilization on huawei and is very good!
Photos is best!
Perfromacnce / Design / Battery is very nice phone!
Better P10 And P10 Plus / 6 ram version on h9 for plus!
The smaller form factor and the powerful specs on the Honor 9 make it one of my favorite Honor phones.

Which one should I buy? Samsung S9 or Honor 10?

Guys, I am planning to purchase a flagship recently, Samsung S9 was my favour before known Honor 10 from Honor hub of XDA ‘【The New Species in Color】Honor 10 makes Galaxy S9 looks boring!!!’. Honestly, the colour Aurora violet impressed me a lot. S9 looks a little bit boring (S9 still looks much better than iPhone 8) compared with Honor 10. Exclude the ID design, the specification of Honor 10 still not worse than S9.
It is no doubt the absolute performance of Kirin 970 is slightly weaker than Snapdragon 845 or Exynos 9810, but the high performance of 845 can do nothing exclude game! (Well, I’m not a gaming addict) In contrast, the NPU innovated in 970 is awesome, especially utilised for scene recognition and semantic image segmentation mode in camera. To illustrate this two AI technology, I quote the official explanation from Honor below:
The Honor 10’s AI camera was developed and supported by the NPU processor in the Kirin 970 chipset, which means it recognises 500+ scenarios in 22 categories real-time. It can pinpoint the outlines of various surrounding objects, like the sky, plants, people and waterfall, and identify their locations. This feature is supported by the industry-first Semantic Image Segmentation technology, which allows the Honor 10 to identify multiple objects in one single image. It is here where the Honor 10 stands out from the crowd at the first place. Furthermore, the industry-first Honor 10 features apply scene-specific parameters to each photo real-time when taking a picture, making every photo you take professional at just one click.
IT’S REALLY COOL!!!!
I’m sure there will be more AI utilizations in the future based on NPU. Currentlutilizationisation of new technology on the phone is much more rational than pursuing absolute performance blindly.
In the unlock aspects, S9 has iris recognition, facial recognition and fingerprint on the back. But I prefer the ultrasonic fingerprint on Honor 10 since it not only located on the front but also work with a wet finger. By the way, the facial recognition also present on Honor 10 lol…
And the battery of Honor 10 is 3400mAh which is more than 3000mAh in S9. I think Samsung is too conservative on both battery capacity and fast charge after the issue of Note 7, the small battery and outdated 18V fast-charging technology make S9 less attractive. Moreover, the SuperCharge of Honor provides 5V 4.5A = 22.5W keeps phone cool when charging compared with the high voltage 18W QC2.0 (9V 2A). The cool SuperCharge makes me feel more reliable than hot QC2.0, cause I always worry that my Galaxy S7 ‘Boom’ when I charging, it’s really hot!!!
Honor 10 has launched in China last week, ¥2599 (€340) for 64GB; ¥2999 (€391) for 128GB which is much cheaper than Galaxy S9 (nearly €1,000).
As the global launch event will be held on May 15th in the UK, I am so curious about the price. Here I listed some of the core specs of the two phones.
What price do you guys think this psychedelic new phone from Honor is going to be?
€400 or €500?
I have prepared €1,000 for S9 before, but now I think I can purchase two Honor 10 for me and my wife lol…
I would choose Honor 10.I just like huawei more.Price quality and specs ratio hands down for honor 10.
I would buy nokia 7 plus for superior build quality and stock android and faster updates and good battery
With Honor 10 in my hands for 4 days, I would say go buy it if you don't mind the over saturated camera, especially the overly airbrushed human faces in photos. So much for "AI camera"... I regretted my ¥2999.
Fair to say though the phone looks gorgeous and the notch can be turned off...
If I have another chance, I would rather wait for 1+6
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With Honor 10 in my hands for 4 days, I would say go buy it if you don't mind the over saturated camera, especially the overly airbrushed human faces in photos. So much for "AI camera"... I regretted my ¥2999.
Fair to say though the phone looks gorgeous and the notch can be turned off...
If I have another chance, I would rather wait for 1+6
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Can't you send it back ? Wtf
haitaoh said:
With Honor 10 in my hands for 4 days, I would say go buy it if you don't mind the over saturated camera, especially the overly airbrushed human faces in photos. So much for "AI camera"... I regretted my ¥2999.
Fair to say though the phone looks gorgeous and the notch can be turned off...
If I have another chance, I would rather wait for 1+6
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Ok, that sounds terrible! Can you post some inages, with and without AI. some faces, plants, landscapes/city images? that would be greatly appreciated!
"especially the overly airbrushed human faces in photos."
Ah, but that makes the images 'professional' apparently. I think I'll stick to a proper, straight set of images that I can post process, should I so choose, with photoshop...
If honor 10 will launch in India with base variant at 35k then there is no competition with oneplus 6. Everyone go for the oneplus 6 at 37k. Also honor has unspecified version of gorilla glass protection. But oneplus 6 has gorilla glass 5. Last time honor launched it's honor v10 that has some of the better specs with it's bigger battery and price at just 30k of 128gb variant and also the display quality.
"Can you post some inages, with and without AI. some faces, plants, landscapes/city images? ..."
Unfortunately I don't have much spare time during the day - but I will try but not very soon.
"but that makes the images 'professional' apparently"
I guess those PS effect automation is the so-called "intelligence" of current camera-hype. I just don't like the overexposed and airburshed fake faces - some might like it though.
Colleage of mine who has s8+ said to me the same thing. He owned Piexl 1 before and would go back to Pixel 3 (when out) solely for the camera department.
Apart from camera the fingerprint recognition of Honor 10 is hardly usable with dry hands - face unlock is fatastic though.
haitaoh said:
With Honor 10 in my hands for 4 days, I would say go buy it if you don't mind the over saturated camera, especially the overly airbrushed human faces in photos. So much for "AI camera"... I regretted my ¥2999.
Fair to say though the phone looks gorgeous and the notch can be turned off...
If I have another chance, I would rather wait for 1+6
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Can I turn off the AI camera if I don't want the "intelligent" effect?
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Can I turn off the AI camera if I don't want the "intelligent" effect?
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You can, only partially. It has apeture, portrait and photo mode. In portrait mode you can set beauty level and photo mode has AI switch. I have set beauty level 0 and AI off - improving to some extent - but to me the photos are still overexposed and unnatual.
Selfie camera is more obvious even with beauty level 0.
BTW the phone was bought from China in a trip and I live in NZ so returning is a real challenge. I decided to keep it despite of the annoyances. I like the size and the looks of the body, dual sim functionality, and able to customise the UI to my liking...

why are Sony xperia displays better than Most devices

you may find it crazy that i'm saying this especially when i refer to the Xperia xz1 but Sonys calibration is unlike anything i have ever seen have not seen the xz3 yet, and i always fall back too the xz1 i have compared it to the Surface pro 5 the Sony af8 oled tv the samsung galaxy s8+ the huawei mate 10 pro and the display getting closest is the af8 oled but even there i feel the colors are a Little dull in comparison, the tablet z4 gets close though, once i got the mate 10 pro almost right with the colors White suffered this doesn\t happen on the xz1, i prefer cold colors i always have i keep my xz1's color balance to 171 blue and screen mode to super vivid mode yet White does not suffer from this it still looks Bright vibrant White while colors look Amazing , if i try the same om for example the huawei mate 10 pro i get a strong blue White, if i compare to the samsung galaxy s8 which is supposed to be the superior display all i see is the s8+ being way too warm and dull in comparison even though screen mode is set to vibrant i mean see these samplepictures , are my Eyes or is my taste just different from everyone elses it makes it difficult to accept any display after this., an oled 4k tv that has the same perfect vibrant colors would be Amazing but not even the af8 oled can do that perfectly

Mate 30 Pro is NOT king of camera

Hi to all ?
First of all I have P30 Pro, and last my 2 phones was Mate 20cand P20 Pro. Because thay all are great phones and great camera. So I search new phone with much better camera, don't get me wrong P30 Pro is best in the market for photography but not for video. So I'm searching something good for both. The only thing what can it be is Mate 30 Pro (that what was I aspect).
But in the beginning wierd thing is, they put just Ultra wide angle camera for videography. (this phone spouses to have best video camera, Huawei said that. Every day in every news you can read this). So they put in Mate 30 Pro special sensor for videography. That's sounds good, but results is not good at all. And they put the smallest "ultra wide angle camera in market for now"!!! Sorry DXO Mark, I can't agree with you this time.
I will post some videos down and I will like to hear your comments.
P. S. I know this is not final software on M30P, and I hope someone will make again new video comparison after final software.
1. Mate 30 Pro vs IPhone 11
2. Mate 30 Pro vs P30 Pro
After these videos I really don't know what to say... ? M30P is very good phone, but camera is even not better then P30 Pro.
I would wait until the phone has been released to the public to make allegations. It's hard when only peeps on YouTube have review devices.
I agree with you completely. I've been waiting for this phone to trade my P30 pro for 2 major reasons....the video quality and the damn color balance.
Unfortunately BOTH will not be addressed. Video quality looks on par with flagships now (especially considering with shooting at a much wider field of view) but at the sacrifice of ultra wide angle!! 18mm? seriously? People need ultra wide angle to capture MORE and they they reducing it from 16mm to 18 mm here!
Also the same sensor without color corrections means I'm stuck with the same color inconsistencies like on my P30 pro. White balance is a joke and 3/4 pics are different, skin tones all unnatural and heavy.
I was seriously planning on sourcing this but as you said, it is by no means king of Camera and far from DXO high horse ratings.
...and I still don't know why they never added auto HDR
The mate 30 pro released early than Huawei expected, most of those early reviews on YouTube are not final version, Dxomark had the latest close to final build installed, according to Huawei CEO thats not the final version, let see the future update... I'll say wait for P40 if you looking for camera big improvement that's what P series focused.
Actually, P series is always the master of camera. Then Mate series. if you want better camera, wait for p40 pro, want better quality and performance, buy mate 30 pro
i just watched the dxomark youtube mate 30 pro video. video quality was very high compare to youtubers . there was a compare in 5lux with note 10 plus. it was clear the winner was mate 30 pro. maybe it needs some patch to software. lets see the final product software then talk. Huawei claimed mate 30 pro it is best in video.
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i just watched the dxomark youtube mate 30 pro video. video quality was very high compare to youtubers . there was a compare in 5lux with note 10 plus. it was clear the winner was mate 30 pro. maybe it needs some patch to software. lets see the final product software then talk. Huawei claimed mate 30 pro it is best in video.
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Yes in low light, but video is not so good like Samsung. It have problem with dinamic range, like phones with 300 eur price.
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Yes in low light, but video is not so good like Samsung. It have problem with dinamic range, like phones with 300 eur price.
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Agreed. They just can't do video well
Video better after updates. Can't see choppines while panning left and right anymore
Agreed, video recording seems miles better than what I got from before. I've already had 4 system updates since unboxing the phone last week.
isko01 said:
Hi to all ?
First of all I have P30 Pro, and last my 2 phones was Mate 20cand P20 Pro. Because thay all are great phones and great camera. So I search new phone with much better camera, don't get me wrong P30 Pro is best in the market for photography but not for video. So I'm searching something good for both. The only thing what can it be is Mate 30 Pro (that what was I aspect).
But in the beginning wierd thing is, they put just Ultra wide angle camera for videography. (this phone spouses to have best video camera, Huawei said that. Every day in every news you can read this). So they put in Mate 30 Pro special sensor for videography. That's sounds good, but results is not good at all. And they put the smallest "ultra wide angle camera in market for now"!!! Sorry DXO Mark, I can't agree with you this time.
I will post some videos down and I will like to hear your comments.
P. S. I know this is not final software on M30P, and I hope someone will make again new video comparison after final software.
1. Mate 30 Pro vs IPhone 11
2. Mate 30 Pro vs P30 Pro
After these videos I really don't know what to say... ? M30P is very good phone, but camera is even not better then P30 Pro.
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I ditched my P30 Pro for the Note 10 the moment they announced the Mate 30 Pro and confirmed that it will have an RYYB sensor.
The color science is god awful on this sensor, it's way inconsistent, and makes the skin of my kids look pale and dull. My Mate 20 Pro took much better pictures, with vibrant pleasing colors. The night mode on the P30 Pro was also useless, due to the RYYB sensor, the phone would try to correct the colors and 10/10 times, I'll have a green cast all over my pictures.
Even with Google play services, and a much cheaper price, I wouldn't have got this phone, no more RYYB sensors for me.
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I ditched my P30 Pro for the Note 10 the moment they announced the Mate 30 Pro and confirmed that it will have an RYYB sensor.
The color science is god awful on this sensor, it's way inconsistent, and makes the skin of my kids look pale and dull. My Mate 20 Pro took much better pictures, with vibrant pleasing colors. The night mode on the P30 Pro was also useless, due to the RYYB sensor, the phone would try to correct the colors and 10/10 times, I'll have a green cast all over my pictures.
Even with Google play services, and a much cheaper price, I wouldn't have got this phone, no more RYYB sensors for me.
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Same to me. I sell my P30 Pro. Really I can't believe my self. But it was very good price. And I buy Note 10 Plus. I didn't regret. Camera us much better in daylight and indoors. But in no low light but no problem for that, Gcam can fix it
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Same to me. I sell my P30 Pro. Really I can't believe my self. But it was very good price. And I buy Note 10 Plus. I didn't regret. Camera us much better in daylight and indoors. But in no low light but no problem for that, Gcam can fix it
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Nothing can beat the P30 Pro and Mate 30 Pro in complete darkness, but honestly, how many times do you take pictures in extremely dim areas? It was a fun trick to try the 1st few days after buying the P30 Pro, but then it was something that I barely used.
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Nothing can beat the P30 Pro and Mate 30 Pro in complete darkness, but honestly, how many times do you take pictures in extremely dim areas? It was a fun trick to try the 1st few days after buying the P30 Pro, but then it was something that I barely used.
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Yap, thats is it.
Is red tint problem(in low light) + light bulb artifact has been fixed?
Tint+Color shift+Artifact are problem since P30pro using RYYB.
I'm very confused why they still use RYYB If they can't fix it
https://www.gsmarena.com/mate_30_pro_vs_iphone_11_pro_vs_galaxy_note10_camera_compare-news-39381.php
You just posted 2 videos as evidence while ignoring alot of other videos out there. BiG bRaIn move right here.
-Green cast only ocurred if you used nightmode, the thing is you get the same result minus green cast with full automode.
-Color Science its way better than the Mate 20 pro.
Having owned both and since updates have arrived it's 100% better than all those phones.
Now I have both Mate 30 pro & Note 10+.. So far I noticed that the mate 30 pro doesn't have auto focus on front cam, my face gets blurry when I take a selfie at a distance of below 50cm from the phone. It sucks for me, or maybe bec I already get used with my Note 10+ which gives me more detail on selfie either close up or not. Why Huawei never fixed it since P30 Pro I think or even earlier.
I'm impressed with the 7680 frames per second in Slow motion video.
Very impressed with the overall photography and video capture of my M30P.
Weekly updates almost once every week on my CN M30P just make it better and better. I have a strong feeling it blows the stock firmware out of the water too.

Does Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro has the same screen problems like OnePlus 8 Pro?

Hello,
I have OnePlus 8 Pro and Oppo Find X2 Pro.
Under 5% screen brightness OnePlus has huge black crush.
They fixed it with beta DC patch, which makes colour accuracy hitting the floor.
Oppo has very small black crush on minimal brightness level.
Both Oppo and OnePlus have the same screen model (just differently calibrated - OnePlus has extremly vivid calibration just like S20 and Oppo has very good natural colour calibration) - but same problem:
between 5-10% screen brightness there is a step which is making everything tinted green.
You slide brightness from 1% to 10% and you will have colours like: ok ok GREEEEEEEN ok ok ok.
I won't accept 1k€ phone having such bad screen, so I am thinking about trying flagship Xiaomi,
can you go into complete dark room and slide brightness from 1% to 10 and tell me if the colours stays the same?
I also have S20 Ultra and iPhone 11 Pro Max - their screens are just perfect (iPhone has much warmer screen, very pleasing to human eye), but I don't like iOS and Samsung has pure garbage Exynos CPU in EU.
Interested as well
Any kind soul to check as per OP request?
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I've tried it. Miu12 xiaomi.eu latest stable. No issues, screen colors remain very consistent. Let me also note that this phone/rom combination has a really good auto-brightness implementation. I've had numerous phones, this is the first one i never need to manually fiddle with brightness.
My only complaint about this phone (or miui) is its out of the box aggressive memory handling. Need to tune many settings of apps to not miss notifications.
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Thank you for checking!
In the meantime I also discovered a fix for my Oppo screen problems -
there is an option called 'low brightness flicker-free eye comfort' and after turning it on the screen is perfect.
It is basically the same thing as OnePlus did (PWM/DC patch), but this one actually works,
while on OnePlus it fixes one thing and brake two others.
Long story short I'll be staying with find x2 pro, because of 12GB DDR5, 512GB UFS3 and
well baked ROM with good RAM management.
Have a nice day.
PS. Auto-brightness is indeed bad on Oppo, Samsung and OnePlus and it's great only on iPhone.
Another thing I'm missing with Oppo is wireless charging, but I'm OK with those issues.

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