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Will T-Mobile USA Disappear in 2011?

http://www.loweringthebarforus.org/news/entry/will_t-mobile_usa_disappear_in_2011
looks like tmobile is closing down? what do you think?

The last sentence in the article sums it up nicely "The brand name may disappear but the company operations and stakeholders will remain."
TMo just replaced their US CEO with new blood (lets let some of the Euro hardware in, m'kay?) like literally just a few weeks ago, and they're suggesting they're pretty aggressive with continuing the rollout of HSPA+ nationwide. The Voice Stream er Tmobile name may go away, but the entity it self isn't going anywhere.
...And although Sprint and Tmobile's target demographic does suggest a lot of overlap, in my belief, in the event of an end of days scenario for Tmo the most likely acquirer of tmo would be.... ATT! Tmo is shaped nicely to fit into the hole in ATT's portfolio. ATT is phasing out of iDevice exclusivity quite soon and would welcome the inflows of Android devices and their higher than normal profit margins. And for the shareholders, such an acquisition would give ATT significantly more Mobile exposure and offset some of the massive cash hemmoraging from their ailing Landline business. And finally, a huge majority of Tmo's Phones in the US were originally equipped with ATT compatible radios in their source countries where ATT already has a presence, then converted for the US - the whole thing just lines up quite well!

If ATT does pick up TMo,im deffinately leaving. Not sure who ill switch to tho,everyone else is more expensive and ATT doesnt have "unlimited data" anymore. Sprint's customer service sucks,and Verizon will charge you as much as they want cause they can.

Tabasco1TX said:
If ATT does pick up TMo,im deffinately leaving...
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+1 me too! I truly hope TMOUS stays…I like my service and the customer support is better than any other phone service I have had.

I wouldn't worry to much about it. They claim their lack of 4G is whats gonna hold them back. But whats funny is untill last year every network but sprint said 4G was a joke and would never work. After seeing the first 4G phone appear on the market I'm inclined to think 4G is gonna be a failure for mobile. No one wants a phone with 2 hours of battery life in trade for double the speed. Besides didn't Tmo already say they plan to roll out 4G in 2012, and everyone else jumped on the bandwagon saying 2011. If I were tmo I would skip it and hold out. They already use 3.75G Also the OPs post looks like a propoganda blog, heres the latest real news site report on TMO
http://connectedplanetonline.com/3g4g/news/tmobile-expanding-4g-061610/
They are claiming their 3G with HSPA or whatever is actually faster then sprint 4G. LOL Having tried all the 3G networks around here I wouldn't disagree with this statement. All my coworkers have to hook up to my phone via wifi to get any HD video on their phones. For some reason Verizon, ATT, and Sprint don't support it through their data plans, yet all 4 can connect to my Tmo 3G and watch HD youtube all night. We all though this would of made a great Tmo, Verizon, ATT map commercial.

Sounds like a lot of baseless speculation, just like a Sprint/Nextel merger. Teaming up with Virgin Mobile? Really
T-Mobile won't be acquired by AT&T, don't worry about it. If AT&T could kill some competition and become #1 they would've purchased T-Mobile
T-Mobile is still making millions, unlike Sprint.

Actaully sprints not in too bad of shape. They have many loans out but all are paid up and they have live 200 million in the bank for a rainy day. They took out billions to roll out 4G and now they basically own it and are years ahead of everyone else in 4G. I've actaully noticed many more sprint phones the past 6 months too. That Dan guy must be doing something right. LOL
BTW I'm getting
2.74 down
0.74 up
211 ping
Boy they aren't kidding, the HSPA doubled your 3G speed. Hopefully we will get it in a couple months.
Sprint 4G is usually pulling 4-5 down ? up.

That's weird, they opened a store near me recently.

Pure rumors...Good old Tmobile is not going anywhere!

Anyone else upgrading in next few months?

Anyone else upgrading to a different phone within the next few months? If so which phone? Ill be upgrading to the galaxy s4 once its released
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I'm downgrading actually to the iPhone 6 lol jk I want Note 3 figured if I save a dollar a day from here til it comes out I'll still be like $400 short lol
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Haha, the note 2 is already like $700, the note 3 going to be like $900? I may acquire an s4 or something new like it, but not sure whats going to be out in 5-6 months as im going army reserves and will be gone for some time
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idk my contract ends on September but i asked on t-mobile and they said the earliest i can renew my contract with full discount and everything will be in march on my b-day but i might just wait till a holiday so i can get those juicy specials so maybe the s4 or note 3 on the 4th of july
anybody wanna make a new holiday?:laugh::laugh: lol

So... by the time you're renewing your contract, will T-Mo have scrapped their classic plans and phone subsidies completely yet?

My contract is due next week. I want a Nexus 4 and use it with a prepaid service. Here in PR, TMo signal is not good or maybe is this phone not being able to pick 3G. I don't know. My mom has AT&T and she has signal everywhere with her Samsung Focus. So, I think Nexus 4 with one of those minor carriers that uses AT&T network. Won't go back to a two year contract hopefully never in my life. It's been a pain in the...
My gf got a Note 2 and it's great, but without contract is too expensive, worth 2 N4. So Nexus it shall be.

Im waiting on my N4 to get here. Ive already bought the sim from straight talk. I advise any of you guys that plan on using straight talk to goto walmart.com and buy the att micro sim while its in stock. After they are gone no more att straight talk byod sims. Apparently they lost a contract with att to sell just the sims. Ill be picking up two more in the coming weeks if they are still available just because.
Chris if you are going to goto a att mvno make sure you can bring your own phone. Most of them restrict you to their phones. Atleast in the states they do.

My contract expired over a month ago and as always it will depend on $$$. I want my next device to be LTE capable. It's great that T-Mobile is finally implementing LTE yet it's only in a few markets right now. last time I looked the Note 2 was the only LTE device T-Mobile had. I heard they'll be getting the LTE capable Galaxy S3 soon. Until T-Mobile steps up with adequate devices it's pointless to upgrade yet. Just my opinion.

I'm on Chris' s same track. I also live in PR and Tmo's signal is unpredictable. My contract expired 3 weeks ago, and my wife bought me the Note 2. I can't complain, I'm in love again with my device as i was with my SGS4G. Battery life is amazing, considering the 3100mAh and running pure stock, with some bloat removed. :thumbup:
I still lurk around this community and test some of the Roms here, as I gave my SGS4 to my son.
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eollie said:
Im waiting on my N4 to get here. Ive already bought the sim from straight talk. I advise any of you guys that plan on using straight talk to goto walmart.com and buy the att micro sim while its in stock. After they are gone no more att straight talk byod sims. Apparently they lost a contract with att to sell just the sims.
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You can buy a SIM cutter for a few dollars that will punch a micro out of a standard one.
For example, http://www.amazon.com/Noosy-Generation-Micro-Cutter-adapters/dp/B005EMS1YG/ or http://www.amazon.com/QQ-Tech®-Cutter-Standard-iPhone-Adapters/dp/B009P16FKY/
(I have not used one of these, but the reviews seem good)
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jeffsf said:
You can buy a SIM cutter for a few dollars that will punch a micro out of a standard one.
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Or download templates online or borrow a micro one and line it up and cut it with scissors or just wing it. lol. I have an old prepaid card that I use for unlocking iPhones with (still legal in Canada) and I just winged it and cut it and it works.

jeffsf said:
You can buy a SIM cutter for a few dollars that will punch a micro out of a standard one.
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Its not a matter of the sim size. They are going to stop selling the att brand sims. It will be only T-Mobile brand sim cards.

eollie said:
Its not a matter of the sim size. They are going to stop selling the att brand sims. It will be only T-Mobile brand sim cards.
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Does that mean that they'll also loose the tower contract with ATT? I haven't looked into it at all but isn't the tower contract part of anti monopoly law? If so is this ATT's way of finding a workaround?

I've got to say that getting off the subsidy-based plan makes far too much sense to me now, especially with T-Mobile re-farming the spectrum in the US. With better alignment of the bands, I find it hard to consider a T-Mobile-crippled phone (both hardware and firmware). When you take into account the difference in price in the plans over a two-year period, even if it is only $20 a month (and it is significantly more for me), that is $480 -- which is probably more than the subsidy would "buy" you anyways.

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I've got to say that getting off the subsidy-based plan makes far too much sense to me now, especially with T-Mobile re-farming the spectrum in the US. With better alignment of the bands, I find it hard to consider a T-Mobile-crippled phone (both hardware and firmware). When you take into account the difference in price in the plans over a two-year period, even if it is only $20 a month (and it is significantly more for me), that is $480 -- which is probably more than the subsidy would "buy" you anyways.
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Yep. Add to that that unlocking a carrier based phone is "illegal" and I'll only be buying non branded phones. Plus the international versions always have better specs than the US versions anyway. I don't live in an LTE area so that is far from a deal breaker for me.

hechoen said:
Does that mean that they'll also loose the tower contract with ATT? I haven't looked into it at all but isn't the tower contract part of anti monopoly law? If so is this ATT's way of finding a workaround?
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No just the sims for the byod plans. I just ported my number to straight talk today. It was a pain in the ass but ugh finally. From the limited info given out straight talk just lost sim card contracts. Tower usage is still the same. But if you get the t-mobile sim you CANT connect to the att towers.
Unlocking your phone is not illegal as long as you get permission. I am on the fence on that as I think people shouldnt buy phones subsidized then unlock pay etf and change carriers. But if you have been a customer long enough for them to give the code it shouldnt be a issue.

Is the note 3 and s4 going to be LTE? I live in Tennessee and im sure theres no LTE out here but it wont bother me any.
And isnt it only illegal to unlock a phone if it was bought after a certain date? Or is it legal if you buy it straight out or from another owner
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I will probably get the s4 when it comes out in April. I like the Note, but it is kinda big.
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gizmoscoop said:
I will probably get the s4 when it comes out in April. I like the Note, but it is kinda big.
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The note is big, i agree, so im probably getting the s4 as well, the specs are amazing
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TMobile FTW!!!

So, in case you didnt notice, TMobile had a event last night as well as Amazon..
For us TMO users, some great news!
-Free unlimited music streaming, not to count against your data
-a new Music station, in conjunction with Rhapsody, free for t mo users
-VOLTE in 16 more cities now..
- a new program that allows a 7 day, "free test of TMO network" with the use of an Iphone 5S to try their network!!!
I just did a speed test inside my house, in the Suburbs of Chicago, one of the new VOLTE cities..
43 megs down, 13 megs up, in my BASEMENT!!!
Kudos to TMO for kicking the competitors to the curb!
http://9to5mac.com/2014/06/18/t-mobile-lte-now-in-16-us-markets-volte-now-covers-100-million-people/
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/t...y-wireless-again.htm?AID=11031750&PID=6147683
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/t-mobile-rhapsody-introduce-unradio.htm
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/t-mobile-sets-your-music-free.htm

I'm in Columbus, Ohio one of the Wideband LTE markets and my speeds haven't gone any higher yet so not sure it's activated in my area yet. Still good speeds without Wideband LTE.
I don't think VOLTE is big deal.
I'm still kind of pissy that T-Mobile pulled a fast one and sent me renew later for my discount but dropped the association. lol I told TmoNews about and they did a story on it. Back when T-Mobile tried to drop discounts but didn't because customers were pissed they said current people with a discount would be grandfathered in. I have 4 lines and the savings was over 20 bucks. Not all about the money just the way T-Mobile messed up the discount thing not once but twice and I'm not alone. I have a discount AT&T and Verizon and looking into Cricket Aio.
http://www.tmonews.com/2014/06/aaa-and-pta-members-losing-their-t-mobile-monthly-discount/

well, after dealing with the horrible Sprint Network, and the horrible death star of ATT, for me, at least, TMobile is a fantastic, breath of fresh air..
God help us if they merge with Sprint..

Woot woot
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I was with Sprint 14 years and left them a year ago for T-Mobile because they kept telling my slow web speeds was because of four of my phones were defective. lol If the Sprin T-Mobile merger happens I'm probably gone even if T-Mobile is running the show. I don't see how the will lower prices like the Softbank owner says but probably awhile before it happens if it happens at all. The good thing is T-Mobile is lowering prices for all the carriers.
Sorry I'll shut up now. haha

yeah, quit hijacking my threads!!!
I had Sprint for 10 years, and actually liked them alot, until they were bought by Softbank; then they became just as tough to deal with as ATT/Verizon, plus, their network went to hell, and even though Chicago was one of their first cities with the new network, we couldn't even make calls in our house, let alone get any reliable data speed..
I am counting on the FTC to not let this merger happen, and if they do, I will probably just buy a Virgin Mobile phone and go that route; all the "major" carriers really suck now, except TMO, IMO, and its not worth partnering with any of them at this point.

Well apparently the rhapsody deal is only for the credit check unlimited plans. If you're on the no credit check unlimited plan you have to pay Four to Ten dollars for service. I've been having issues the past few day with my service in Dallas getting 5-10megs where I normally get 35-50 megs down and for a long time. Apparently there is something going on that should be corrected in the next 72hrs said the T-Mobile rep. I'm hoping they're upgrading or something, but I don't see getting much higher than I'm used to atm.
EDIT: Well after reading Dallas is also one of the cities supposed to recieve volte today so that could be the reason for the current troubles.

Wait so this music thing, you can use it without it affecting your data? Cus I have 2gb and it would kill my data
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your answer is right here
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/news/t-mobile-sets-your-music-free.htm

sweets55 said:
I'm in Columbus, Ohio one of the Wideband LTE markets and my speeds haven't gone any higher yet so not sure it's activated in my area yet. Still good speeds without Wideband LTE.
I don't think VOLTE is big deal.
I'm still kind of pissy that T-Mobile pulled a fast one and sent me renew later for my discount but dropped the association. lol I told TmoNews about and they did a story on it. Back when T-Mobile tried to drop discounts but didn't because customers were pissed they said current people with a discount would be grandfathered in. I have 4 lines and the savings was over 20 bucks. Not all about the money just the way T-Mobile messed up the discount thing not once but twice and I'm not alone. I have a discount AT&T and Verizon and looking into Cricket Aio.
http://www.tmonews.com/2014/06/aaa-and-pta-members-losing-their-t-mobile-monthly-discount/
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Tmo has not dropped state employee discounts. I switched from Verizon because they were cleaning me out even with their discounts. Tmo costs me 80/mo less than big red. And the coverage in the sticks with Tmo is not as bad as I thought it would be.
Btw just got my G2 the other day and I am loving this phone!
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got my G2 the other day and I am loving this phone!
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Yep. this is the most all-around pleasing phone I';ve ever owned.

My dad is retired from the military so I'm going to make him a authorized user so we can get our discount back.
T-Mobile couldn't tell me what 16 Wideband markets were active. Then another T-Mobile told me "although wideband LTE is available in 16 markets every tower in that market may not support it yet. We will continue to improve and you will continue to see advancements in the future! A customers reply "if T-Mobile doesn't have the info on when these cities would be activated why would T-Mobile announce that they are in 16 new cities now. They didn't say it's coming they said we are now in 16 new cities with wideband LTE. This is very unprofessional to say the least. Good point...
I really liked the G2 but the curved design got me with the Flex. The G2 would probably feel small now.

[Q] Who is upgrading to the S7 or S7 Edge?

Today was the big unveil of the 2 new Galaxy S7 devices - 5.1" S7 and 5.5" S7 Edge.
Visually, there isn't much change. But from the inside, quite a bit.
Will you be upgrading to one of the new Galaxy S7 devices?
I, for one, will be going to Best Buy on Tuesday to place my preorder.
I'm gonna go with the S7 Edge for its many improvements over my S6E:
-Better SD820 SOC
-4GB of RAM
-Bigger screen but still one-handeable (for me) with its 72 mm width & curved back
-Better camera with faster autofocus & low light performance
-Fast wireless charging
-3600 mah (!) battery
-microSD support
-IP68 water resistance
-Change of scenery with the silver titanium color
I'm eligible to renew a new 2-yr contract after paying a $250 early upgrade fee, which I'll recoup after selling my S6E.
Anyone else doing the upgrade?
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I'll be upgrading after 4/1 when I am eligible to. Haven't decided which one yet, but probably the edge

LG or Nexus. Only way to get timely updates .

What I would like t o know with sprint are we going to be able to talk on the phone and have internet??
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I may, just to have my external SD card back

mobgod said:
What I would like t o know with sprint are we going to be able to talk on the phone and have internet??
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Not for another year or two, unfortunately.
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Soooperstar said:
I may, just to have my external SD card back
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Yes, very looking to microSD again. I have a Samsung class 10 128GB from Black Friday I'm just waiting to pop in.
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Not for another year or two, unfortunately.
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Such bs I want my s3 back
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S7E may be sexy, but don't expect any Dev support. Smartphone-wise, I've been playing in these forums with the 6600, 6700, vogue, mogal, touch pro, touch pro 2, diamond, evo 4g, evo 3d, m7, S3, note2, m8, g3, s5, and s6 edge. All Sprint variants. It used to be normal to see 10-15 new ROMs each day on those phones. Now that smartphones are even more common than over a decade ago, I would expect activity to have blossomed significantly. Instead, developer interest and activity had been extraordinarily weak.
You can thank Samsung for most of that, and their wonderful Knox system, but also it seems that the Sprint forums don't have the stream they used to. Very disheartening.
So if you're eyeballing a new Samsung phone, you better like it plenty without root and without any customizations.

Only chance of getting custom roms and stuff is getting the full unlocked variant.

This thread alone is a good indicator of how much dev support/community interest there will be for the Sprint variant S7. G3 -> G4, M7 -> M8 threads would have had 100+ posts by now.
Luckily these phones are PRETTY GOOD stock-- I feel much better than some of those older phones, but not as good as they became after root. My biggest complaint is that I want AirAudio to work, and that requires root. Very frustrating. I still find it nuts that we don't get true administrative rights to our own phones. Could you imagine if you bought a laptop, and you weren't allowed to log in as Administrator or root? That wouldn't fly for a second!

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This thread alone is a good indicator of how much dev support/community interest there will be for the Sprint variant S7. G3 -> G4, M7 -> M8 threads would have had 100+ posts by now.
Luckily these phones are PRETTY GOOD stock-- I feel much better than some of those older phones, but not as good as they became after root. My biggest complaint is that I want AirAudio to work, and that requires root. Very frustrating. I still find it nuts that we don't get true administrative rights to our own phones. Could you imagine if you bought a laptop, and you weren't allowed to log in as Administrator or root? That wouldn't fly for a second!
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I joined Sprint when I got my Galaxy S2 and I did notice a huge activity decline starting from the S5 series. The international unlocked variants continue to have a lot of activity still.
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I'll be getting the S7 Edge, but switching to Verizon thanks to Sprints lack of customer service. They put me on the wrong plan and said now I can't upgrade yearly like they promised and refuse to do anything about it. After over 9 years of service with Sprint, it's time to move on.

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I'll be getting the S7 Edge, but switching to Verizon thanks to Sprints lack of customer service. They put me on the wrong plan and said now I can't upgrade yearly like they promised and refuse to do anything about it. After over 9 years of service with Sprint, it's time to move on.
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The only reason I'm on Sprint is the unlimited data. As I understand it, I'll technically lose that when I sign a new lease, or whatever. I believe they are trying to get rid of grandfathered unlimited data people. Until then, I'll probably stick with 'em.

Nexus 6p will be my weapon of choice next time, switching to project fi as well, need the front facing speakers that I had with the m8 downside is lack of sd card but will get larger storage to make up for it
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dazednconfused said:
I'll be getting the S7 Edge, but switching to Verizon thanks to Sprints lack of customer service. They put me on the wrong plan and said now I can't upgrade yearly like they promised and refuse to do anything about it. After over 9 years of service with Sprint, it's time to move on.
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Man I hate to hear you're leaving us

dazednconfused said:
I'll be getting the S7 Edge, but switching to Verizon thanks to Sprints lack of customer service. They put me on the wrong plan and said now I can't upgrade yearly like they promised and refuse to do anything about it. After over 9 years of service with Sprint, it's time to move on.
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After 10 yrs of Loyal Sprint service they cancelled my service for to much "unlimited data" usage (I was at a 2 yr low when they did)!
Too much "unlimited data"? Yep, I later found out that they monitor anything over 20gb!
Basically they screwed me and I'll take any chance to bash their weak network!
Oh well, the network is crap and data speeds can't even compete with Tmo!
You'll be happy with the upgrade of phone and carrier!
How have you been btw?
Just dropped my, most likely final LP rom and waiting for Tmo to hit us with MM.
Good luck bro. Take care

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Man I hate to hear you're leaving us
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Thanks man, but they have left me no choice. They admit that the screwed up but say they can't fix it. They did offer me a $50 credit, which I told them where they can stick it. I'll miss you guys and gals as well, thanks for all the support, it was a lot of fun.
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You'll be happy with the upgrade of phone and carrier!
How have you been btw?
Just dropped my, most likely final LP rom and waiting for Tmo to hit us with MM.
Good luck bro. Take care
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Thanks man and I've been doing pretty good. Life has caught up with me and don't have much time to play with the phone anymore. Good luck to you as well and take care buddy.

liquid cooled phone? S7? you damn right i got that **** preordered already

stangdriver44 said:
After 10 yrs of Loyal Sprint service they cancelled my service for to much "unlimited data" usage (I was at a 2 yr low when they did)!
Too much "unlimited data"? Yep, I later found out that they monitor anything over 20gb!
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Seems like you were abusing the network if you were consistently going over 20gb each month. Sounds like you were tethering. Anyhow, when you compare to the other carriers, Sprint still has the best data rates, and most lenient 'unlimited' plans.

No 5G for T-Mobile AT&T or Sprint do I wait?

So spending a thousand plus on a phone that won't take advantage of the network doesn't seem like a good decision to me. Even the Verizon version with 5G is first generation. The Qualcomm chip x55 is due out in the next few months. The question is do I jump the gun and and get a phone that is at launch behind the times. I read an interview where the CEO of T-Mobile said they are waiting for a version with the x55 chip which will make it more compatible with their Network and give a better experience to the end user.
I'm leaning towards waiting instead of jumping the gun. I think Samsung should have waited to truly make the phone second to none.
I know I'm going to be pissed when no 5G version comes out for T-Mobile. I'm not willing to jump to Verizon to be on a first-generation network that is already out outdated
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I'm on T-Mobile. I saw no reason to spend an extra $200 on 5G. Not yet. Maybe the Note 11.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I'm on T-Mobile. I saw no reason to spend an extra $200 on 5G. Not yet. Maybe the Note 11.
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I don't see a reason to switch my phone. I have a Note 8 I skipped the note 9 to wait for the Note 10. But with that Hefty price tag I want to be sure that I have the latest and greatest. Knowing that new hardware is coming in a few months makes me want to wait.
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aplusmiami said:
I don't see a reason to switch my phone. I have a Note 8 I skipped the note 9 to wait for the Note 10. But with that Hefty price tag I want to be sure that I have the latest and greatest. Knowing that new hardware is coming in a few months makes me want to wait.
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I upgrade every year, but I never pay full price. I sold a couple phones to pay for my 512GB Note 9, which I bought used. Well. It was used. But the guy just received it as an insurance claim, so it had actually never been used. I took all the factrou plastic off of it. But I only paid $700 for it in November of last year.
Here's how I'm getting the Note 10+ for basically free:
Sold my 512GB Note 9 for $585.
Bought a 128GB Note 9 for $400.
So I had a 128GB Note 9 plus $185 in my pocket.
Traded THAT Note 9 in on a Note 10+ and Samsung gave me $600 for it. (that's a $200 profit).
Samsung also gave me a $200 Samsung Gift card for reserving and preordering.
I signed up for a credit card that gives me $200 cash back, which I can apply to my cc bill, if I spend $1,000 in the first three months. I put the Note 10+ and some motorcycle parts on it that I wanted anyway, and have already spent $1,000. Cash back is on its way.
So I'll break it down:
Aura Glow Note 10+ $1,100
Sales Tax ~ $31
Trade in 128GB Note 9 -$600
Note 10+ purchase price $531
Cash from 512 N9 sale -$185
Cash back from CC -$200
Total cost of Note 10+ $146
So I have invested $146 in a new phone. But in September, I'll use my $200 Samsung gift card to buy the new Gear Active 2. It starts at $200, so it will basically be free. I don't need it, so I will sell it for maybe $175.
Note 10+ $146
Sell watch -$175
PROFIT $29

I am waiting for the note 10+ 5g to come out. I was disappointed again that verizon got the exclusive for it but i do wonder if its the x50 or x55. There are no specific specs that confirm it. Or maybe i just didnt look too closely.
Like you said, maybe the other carriers were trying to get x55 modem instead.
I will be really disappointed if the later note 5g doesnt come with x55 and it is the same x50.
At this moment, i highly doubt that they will put the x55. I am hoping that they will do though. I really want to use my 2 yr contract upgrade when the time comes.

For $1200 I'm waiting, either for a 5G model or if my current Note 8 breaks, I'll break down and buy the 4G version.

sunmybun said:
I am waiting for the note 10+ 5g to come out. I was disappointed again that verizon got the exclusive for it but i do wonder if its the x50 or x55. There are no specific specs that confirm it. Or maybe i just didnt look too closely.
Like you said, maybe the other carriers were trying to get x55 modem instead.
I will be really disappointed if the later note 5g doesnt come with x55 and it is the same x50.
At this moment, i highly doubt that they will put the x55. I am hoping that they will do though. I really want to use my 2 yr contract upgrade when the time comes.
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From what I've been reading that seems to be the plan they're waiting for the x55 to be incorporated into the Note 10. Which should happen towards the end of the year.
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aplusmiami said:
From what I've been reading that seems to be the plan they're waiting for the x55 to be incorporated into the Note 10. Which should happen towards the end of the year.
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Hopefully.
I did look up the fcc site for the verizon model and it only uses the nr bands n260 and n261. So maybe it uses only the mmwaves. It could be x50
Are you thinking of waiting for the 5g model?

sunmybun said:
Hopefully.
I did look up the fcc site for the verizon model and it only uses the nr bands n260 and n261. So maybe it uses only the mmwaves. It could be x50
Are you thinking of waiting for the 5g model?
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Oh I've read many articles saying that the Verizon version is using the older x 50. Verizon's business model is to show market dominance but I'm assuming and I feel they jumped the gun cuz I read they had all kinds of issues with their 5G service. The x55 will support multiple bands and multiple protocols. When T-Mobile and Sprint merge they're going to have three bands of 5G service. Apparently the higher the frequency the more obstructions will affect the signal strength another words buildings Etc. TMobile has a 600 megahertz band and Sprint has a 2.4 and I believe they both have a band which is similar to Verizon.
Verizon's just flexing their muscle trying to show market dominance. And it will probably work judging by the number of people that are pre-ordering. There's no exclusivity TMobile AT&T and Sprint just decided to wait for a better chip.
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aplusmiami said:
Oh I've read many articles saying that the Verizon version is using the older x 50. Verizon's business model is to show market dominance but I'm assuming and I feel they jumped the gun cuz I read they had all kinds of issues with their 5G service. The x55 will support multiple bands and multiple protocols. When T-Mobile and Sprint merge they're going to have three bands of 5G service. Apparently the higher the frequency the more obstructions will affect the signal strength another words buildings Etc. TMobile has a 600 megahertz band and Sprint has a 2.4 and I believe they both have a band which is similar to Verizon.
Verizon's just flexing their muscle trying to show market dominance. And it will probably work judging by the number of people that are pre-ordering. There's no exclusivity TMobile AT&T and Sprint just decided to wait for a better chip.
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Samsung has already confirmed that the Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G will come to AT&T, T-Mobile, and Sprint once its temporary exclusivity period with Verizon ends. All three carriers sell the Galaxy S10 5G.
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https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/7/2...lusive-features-price-carriers-unpacked-event

aplusmiami said:
Oh I've read many articles saying that the Verizon version is using the older x 50. Verizon's business model is to show market dominance but I'm assuming and I feel they jumped the gun cuz I read they had all kinds of issues with their 5G service. The x55 will support multiple bands and multiple protocols. When T-Mobile and Sprint merge they're going to have three bands of 5G service. Apparently the higher the frequency the more obstructions will affect the signal strength another words buildings Etc. TMobile has a 600 megahertz band and Sprint has a 2.4 and I believe they both have a band which is similar to Verizon.
Verizon's just flexing their muscle trying to show market dominance. And it will probably work judging by the number of people that are pre-ordering. There's no exclusivity TMobile AT&T and Sprint just decided to wait for a better chip.
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Yea i believe that.
Verizon had always that mentality that they are comfortable in their position and their customers would care less.
In the 5g service, they didnt take in account of real world physics.
They will be in trouble once tmobile and sprint merges. Their combined spectrum and technology is def much better.
My theory on merging complications is that att and verizon are trying to stop it behind the lines.

Semantics said:
https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/7/2...lusive-features-price-carriers-unpacked-event
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Oh I am sure they're coming out with the 5G model the question is will it be the second generation chip which is the Qualcomm x 55 not the x 50.
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aplusmiami said:
Oh I am sure they're coming out with the 5G model the question is will it be the second generation chip which is the Qualcomm x 55 not the x 50.
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From tech republic:
Likewise, CNET reports that the*Galaxy Note 10+ 5G for AT&T and T-Mobile will use the second-generation Qualcomm X55 modem. The newer modem is anticipated to address power consumption and heat dissipation issues, though those models "will only be able to access their sub-6Ghz networks, not their millimeter wave service." Sub-6 GHz frequencies will not be able to deliver the headline-making speeds,*though will deliver more consistent coverage.
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aplusmiami said:
Oh I am sure they're coming out with the 5G model the question is will it be the second generation chip which is the Qualcomm x 55 not the x 50.
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I'm not certain. I won't buy a 5G phone this year regardless of the chip. I was more referencing the statement that Verizon doesn't have exclusivity. Samsung claims they do. I opted for the Note 10+. I'd rather not have spotty 5G switching on and off destroying my battery. I will wait until it matures a bit.

Semantics said:
I'm not certain. I won't buy a 5G phone this year regardless of the chip. I was more referencing the statement that Verizon doesn't have exclusivity. Samsung claims they do. I opted for the Note 10+. I'd rather not have spotty 5G switching on and off destroying my battery. I will wait until it matures a bit.
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I agree with you 100% I might even wait for the note 11 even if the Note 10 later on this year comes with the x55 let them work out the bugs I don't want to be the guinea pig with the phone that chews up batteries and has spotty coverage. I think T-Mobile AT&T and Sprint made a good move passing on the 5G variant. Verizon's just going to market the hell out of it making it seem like we're the only carrier with 5G phones that work when in fact you're using a first generation I go as far as to say beta testing 5G network.
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aplusmiami said:
I agree with you 100% I might even wait for the note 11 even if the Note 10 later on this year comes with the x55 let them work out the bugs I don't want to be the guinea pig with the phone that chews up batteries and has spotty coverage. I think T-Mobile AT&T and Sprint made a good move passing on the 5G variant. Verizon's just going to market the hell out of it making it seem like we're the only carrier with 5G phones that work when in fact you're using a first generation I go as far as to say beta testing 5G network.
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Yeah, I'm not a real fan of being a beta tester when I have to pay 1380 dollars for the privilege.

Someone is selling the Korean 5G Variant of the Note 10 - supposedly LTE will work on ATT - but will the 5G work on ATT when ATT Launches 5G ? Just curious....

Geekser said:
Someone is selling the Korean 5G Variant of the Note 10 - supposedly LTE will work on ATT - but will the 5G work on ATT when ATT Launches 5G ? Just curious....
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I think it depends if its international unlocked.
I never used international phones in the usa recently so im not entirely sure.
I think that each country or region has its own 5g bands. Korea uses diff 5g bands than the usa.

Geekser said:
Someone is selling the Korean 5G Variant of the Note 10 - supposedly LTE will work on ATT - but will the 5G work on ATT when ATT Launches 5G ? Just curious....
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@Geekser Linky please? This might possibly be a better than what I was looking at from Clove in the UK.

sunmybun said:
Yea i believe that.
Verizon had always that mentality that they are comfortable in their position and their customers would care less.
In the 5g service, they didnt take in account of real world physics.
They will be in trouble once tmobile and sprint merges. Their combined spectrum and technology is def much better.
My theory on merging complications is that att and verizon are trying to stop it behind the lines.
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Verizon won't be in trouble when T-Mobile and Sprint merges. T-Mobile and Sprint customers will be in trouble. Its going to take years to combine the two networks and I expect pricing to increase as they try to be a premier carrier.