https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
Oh come on that's never an issue script and bypass by exploiting it
Thats huge NO NO, this is my first and last Huawei device. I love my p9 and was planning to get p20 pro but now... If they get out with this most of companies will follow imo
KinG5Pac said:
Thats huge NO NO, this is my first and last Huawei device. I love my p9 and was planning to get p20 pro but now... If they get out with this most of companies will follow imo
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Nuh i dont think so. And its not the first company who actually done it. And again its in their legal rights to do so., but as i said it very easy to exploit the bootloader without bootloader code and it will not make any difference customizing it. Back in my days we had to crack the CD to clone the game....and even today we crack the EXE to play pirate games. The same will happen with the devices. Samsung and Google already locked many devices and you was not able to get a bootloader code. That did not stop us though
KinG5Pac said:
Thats huge NO NO, this is my first and last Huawei device. I love my p9 and was planning to get p20 pro but now... If they get out with this most of companies will follow imo
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Same thing here. P9 was really great had it for two years and I was very satisfied. But no way am I going with the P20. It has terrible value... So expensive? Bad design choices...
I think most companies take a bad turn after they get too big. Same thing with Samsung. They made an almost perfect phone with the Galaxy S3 (at the time) for a great price. Then they kept releasing the same design but increased price every year and now they sell glass slates that break if you look at them wrong, that cost 1000$.
I just got an amazing deal on an LG G6 which already has Oreo. That will hopefully last me until this whole notch/no headphone-jack craze washes over!
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I think most companies take a bad turn after they get too big. Same thing with Samsung.
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Its not about "getting to big". Look at it from company and market perspective. Some people here dont get it but modded devices take really small percentage of overall Android devices out there. We sit inside and read about that so we thing that everyone doing that but, most of android users dont even know what Android version they have, for them its just "Android Phone" + Brand name.
But for past year that number of custom roms and forcing updates that users do because they dont want to wait for official OTA grow and companies want to protect their names so there will be no situation like company is known that it have bad devices because people who mess with firmware cry about it all over the internet creating bad reputation.
Huawei was never perfect device for modding, and because Huawei is one of the biggest companies that aim for top they want to smooth their reputation by protecting their devices(no messing with bootloader = marketing advertising for "safe" device) and make users to use build in features and updates that they can control instead of messing with device to get it.
And yes, some people will cry that they will never get Huawei device again, or cry that its worst decision, but in reality those people are less than 0.5% of their worldwide user base. Some people will still mod those devices because they know-how, and stopping "easy way" to unlocking bootloader is not big deal, and Huawei devices are not alone here, there is lots of other devices and few companies that also block it and no one cry about it beside small number of people.
For me and probably for most of people it dont matter, Huawei devices are not bad compared to other companies, they work good, and for all normal people thats matter: that device work good. Today there is not much reason to mod devices, most of options that people need are build in, performance on even mid-range devices are good, no need to tinker under the hud like in old days to get device to work smooth. There are still many apps that need root and there are many roms that are really good, but most of people dont need that anymore, and only new users and people who are bored tinker with it... and for most of time screw their devices and then cry all over the internet that phone dont work...
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Oh come on that's never an issue script and bypass by exploiting it
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Sorry what do you mean?
Akinaro said:
Its not about "getting to big". Look at it from company and market perspective. Some people here dont get it but modded devices take really small percentage of overall Android devices out there. We sit inside and read about that so we thing that everyone doing that but, most of android users dont even know what Android version they have, for them its just "Android Phone" + Brand name.
But for past year that number of custom roms and forcing updates that users do because they dont want to wait for official OTA grow and companies want to protect their names so there will be no situation like company is known that it have bad devices because people who mess with firmware cry about it all over the internet creating bad reputation.
Huawei was never perfect device for modding, and because Huawei is one of the biggest companies that aim for top they want to smooth their reputation by protecting their devices(no messing with bootloader = marketing advertising for "safe" device) and make users to use build in features and updates that they can control instead of messing with device to get it.
And yes, some people will cry that they will never get Huawei device again, or cry that its worst decision, but in reality those people are less than 0.5% of their worldwide user base. Some people will still mod those devices because they know-how, and stopping "easy way" to unlocking bootloader is not big deal, and Huawei devices are not alone here, there is lots of other devices and few companies that also block it and no one cry about it beside small number of people.
For me and probably for most of people it dont matter, Huawei devices are not bad compared to other companies, they work good, and for all normal people thats matter: that device work good. Today there is not much reason to mod devices, most of options that people need are build in, performance on even mid-range devices are good, no need to tinker under the hud like in old days to get device to work smooth. There are still many apps that need root and there are many roms that are really good, but most of people dont need that anymore, and only new users and people who are bored tinker with it... and for most of time screw their devices and then cry all over the internet that phone dont work...
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Aww sorry for touching your feelings about huawei. -0.5% also money which is gone for sure btw not only p9 users heard about this news so do your calculations it's more than 0.5%, and most of people buy phones just asking these "tech-savvy (crying)" people's recommendation.
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Sorry what do you mean?
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not gonna sit and explain because it will look like a chinese alphabet to newcomers.
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Aww sorry for touching your feelings about huawei. -0.5% also money which is gone for sure btw not only p9 users heard about this news so do your calculations it's more than 0.5%, and most of people buy phones just asking these "tech-savvy (crying)" people's recommendation.
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He is right though because the market is not targeting on "under the hood modders" but they do target on average Joes who gets a phone , takes a good picture, using messenger, call, play some android games yadda yadda.
I can tell you that its less than 0.5% worldwide and if that 0.5% needs 3-4 times to return the devices because they hardbrick their devices from custom firmwares, they will have to replace the device which is a cost and also they will gain bad reputation for having "sensitive" devices. I dont think you bought P9 for the under the hood customization. Did you? because most of us got it for the superior cameras tbh.
I do dislike the fact that bootloader is locked , however there is always a way to bypass bootloader and push TWRP. Ive done it already on P8 and P9 and i can not see where it would be a problem with newer devices.
If someone wants to push a custom firmware and have the knowledge to do it, then definitely he will have enough experience on searching for tools that can do this job. Legally, illegally it doesnt matter.
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Aww sorry for touching your feelings about huawei. -0.5% also money which is gone for sure btw not only p9 users heard about this news so do your calculations it's more than 0.5%, and most of people buy phones just asking these "tech-savvy (crying)" people's recommendation.
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Touching my feelings? Grow up kid...
Huawei P9 is my first Huawei device, for past years I was using only Sony devices. I dont have any "feelings" to phone, because its just device, and it work as advertised.
I dont care how Huawei run its own company, I see other companies and overall market and its not different than others.
What I dont like are are people who behave like kid and cry about small things and get personal with any cont argument that they dont like. Open your eyes wider and look at this from wider perspective than your own nose, then maybe you will understand some things
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Touching my feelings? Grow up kid...
Huawei P9 is my first Huawei device, for past years I was using only Sony devices. I dont have any "feelings" to phone, because its just device, and it work as advertised.
I dont care how Huawei run its own company, I see other companies and overall market and its not different than others.
What I dont like are are people who behave like kid and cry about small things and get personal with any cont argument that they dont like. Open your eyes wider and look at this from wider perspective than your own nose, then maybe you will understand some things
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There there, wipe your tears. Your logic make me wanna puke. Don't be angry about others opinions cos I really don't give a f about yours but i read it cos your asking "me" to grove up (really man?) thanks I'll do it, but still stop being asshhole.
Have good one! :victory:
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There there, wipe your tears. Your logic make me wanna puke. Don't be angry about others opinions cos I really don't give a f about yours but i read it cos your asking "me" to grove up (really man?) thanks I'll do it, but still stop being asshhole.
Have good one! :victory:
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Keyboard warrior? He expressed his opinion and yes you have to grow up. Its a bloody device and not a girlfriend. I really notice that this forum is basically 13 years old mouthy kids. There you go if i change device is only for this reason. Till then im going to the russian community. At least they are developing things. They are not like here expressing clueless opinions, leeching and been demanding and insult other forum members, either act like kids who wants a lollipop. Here take your lollipop.
Byeeeee
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Keyboard warrior? He expressed his opinion and yes you have to grow up. Its a bloody device and not a girlfriend. I really notice that this forum is basically 13 years old mouthy kids. There you go if i change device is only for this reason. Till then im going to the russian community. At least they are developing things. They are not like here expressing clueless opinions, leeching and been demanding and insult other forum members, either act like kids who wants a lollipop. Here take your lollipop.
Byeeeee
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Why you even here? Anyways you still thinking unlocking bootloader is some scripting or something? There are still some HTC phones which are impossible to unlock and I remember some devs used beg Xiaomi to make kernel open source, LG bootloader aghh Sony's DRM after unlock... Anyways say hello to 4pda
У меня всё... :fingers-crossed:
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Why you even here? Anyways you still thinking unlocking bootloader is some scripting or something? There are still some HTC phones which are impossible to unlock and I remember some devs used beg Xiaomi to make kernel open source, LG bootloader aghh Sony's DRM after unlock... Anyways say hello to 4pda
У меня всё... :fingers-crossed:
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are you one of those guyz?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...remony-prove-precious-phones-daily-lives.html
Bootloader=kernel?
you mixed up what is what.
Lesson one:
Android Bootloader
Every Android phone has a bootloader that instructs the operating system kernel to boot normally. But you need to understand one thing here that as Android OS is an open source OS and is available on a variety of different hardware, every manufacturer has their own version of bootloader specific for the hardware present in it’s environment. At its most basic level, your Android smartphone is like a hard drive, made of up several partitions. One of those partitions holds the Android system files, another holds all the app data you accumulate (which is how you’re usually able to update without losing all your stuff), and others to do more behind-the scenes stuff.
Lesson two
Why are Bootloaders Locked?
A bootloader is usually locked on an Android device because although it’s an open source OS, still the manufacturers want you to stick to their Android OS version specifically designed for the device. In order to apply this concept, manufacturers lock the bootloader. With a locked bootloader on Android devices, it is virtually impossible to flash a Custom ROM and forced attempts void warranty as well as usually end up in bricks. Therefore, the first step is to always unlock the bootloader.
Lesson 3:
Why keep a bootloader out of reach? One of the biggest reasons is that the carriers and manufacturers dont want to have to support hacked phones. The other is that a lot of time and money is spent developing these things.
Lesson 4
No company is obligated to release or to help you unlock your bootloader. You are allowed to hack it. But you have to respect the brick and return policies.
You can complain as much you want. If you want to play with fimrwares you can go buy an old samsung device.
The market is targeting the user and not the developer.
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are you one of those guyz?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...remony-prove-precious-phones-daily-lives.html
Bootloader=kernel?
you mixed up what is what.
Lesson one:
Android Bootloader
Every Android phone has a bootloader that instructs the operating system kernel to boot normally. But you need to understand one thing here that as Android OS is an open source OS and is available on a variety of different hardware, every manufacturer has their own version of bootloader specific for the hardware present in it’s environment. At its most basic level, your Android smartphone is like a hard drive, made of up several partitions. One of those partitions holds the Android system files, another holds all the app data you accumulate (which is how you’re usually able to update without losing all your stuff), and others to do more behind-the scenes stuff.
Lesson two
Why are Bootloaders Locked?
A bootloader is usually locked on an Android device because although it’s an open source OS, still the manufacturers want you to stick to their Android OS version specifically designed for the device. In order to apply this concept, manufacturers lock the bootloader. With a locked bootloader on Android devices, it is virtually impossible to flash a Custom ROM and forced attempts void warranty as well as usually end up in bricks. Therefore, the first step is to always unlock the bootloader.
Lesson 3:
Why keep a bootloader out of reach? One of the biggest reasons is that the carriers and manufacturers dont want to have to support hacked phones. The other is that a lot of time and money is spent developing these things.
Lesson 4
No company is obligated to release or to help you unlock your bootloader. You are allowed to hack it. But you have to respect the brick and return policies.
You can complain as much you want. If you want to play with fimrwares you can go buy an old samsung device.
The market is targeting the user and not the developer.
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I'm not even comparing, im just giving you examples where companies are being just ignorant to devs. Why they should care about brick after unlocking bootloader? You make zero sense. Unlocked bootloader void warranty so back to the topic. If you still think removing to have an option is "good" then congratulations have fun.
update: I appreciate your time that you spent on research.
Any kind soul willing to help me unlock bootloader, i belive huawei stoped supporting the website to get the bootloader code.
i tried to search everything in the forum.
should i try any suspicious website that asks money to unlock?
Really apreciated!
nightgost said:
Any kind soul willing to help me unlock bootloader, i belive huawei stoped supporting the website to get the bootloader code.
i tried to search everything in the forum.
should i try any suspicious website that asks money to unlock?
Really apreciated!
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DC-Unlocker is the place to go: https://www.dc-unlocker.com/supported_models_1/huawei_phones
I think it costs 4 Euros. I've used this site and it's legit.
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Nuh i dont think so. And its not the first company who actually done it. And again its in their legal rights to do so., but as i said it very easy to exploit the bootloader without bootloader code and it will not make any difference customizing it. Back in my days we had to crack the CD to clone the game....and even today we crack the EXE to play pirate games. The same will happen with the devices. Samsung and Google already locked many devices and you was not able to get a bootloader code. That did not stop us though
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How to Do unlock process? kindly tell me..
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How to Do unlock process? kindly tell me..
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Scroll up in this thread and you will find link to their website with instructions there:
https://www.dc-unlocker.com/how-to-read-huawei-bootloader-unlock-code
So my only option is to use DC-Unlocker right?
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Android is supposed to be open, customizable and free, vs iOS. That's why I'm making the switch (plus I couldn't stand the screen size of iPhone).
But now I realize Samsung is behaving like Apple:
- Knox highly discourages (prevents) rooting, just like Apple tries to prevent jailbreaks
- Firmware can't be downgraded, just like on iOS too
Part 1 is still acceptable under the pretext of corporate security, especially since end users generally have no issues getting warranty even with Knox tripped.
But part 2 is simply inconceivable IMO. No downgrading is just ridiculous. It's way worse than part 1 because at least users can choose to void warranty and ignore Knox, but part 2 is maintaining an iron control.
That is the really stupid bit. I have been upgrading, downgrading when I wanted to since the galaxy s days and now this not being able to downgrade really ppppppeeee me off. Didn't care about Knox and tripped it.... But...?... Let's set what's out there come September when my contract runs out
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When I read threads on how which firmware versions are rootable (without tripping knox) and which aren't, they remind me of apple blogs posting about which iOS versions are jailbreak safe.
Can't believe I'm still gonna buy a note 3!
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When I read threads on how which firmware versions are rootable (without tripping knox) and which aren't, they remind me of apple blogs posting about which iOS versions are jailbreak safe.
Can't believe I'm still gonna buy a note 3!
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I get it. The hardware is still a good value, but I'll probably look elsewhere in the future.
These companies get too big and start to dictate what the user wants instead of listening... And when they are sitting pretty on top they tend to stop developing new innovations because "They are the best" and then the item tends to stagnate with VERY little actual developement thrown in. Anything new is a kneejerk reaction to the next up and comer for king of the heap....
They will still say it is for the best of the user but in reality its because they're too damn lazy to work. Then comes the copyright everything attitudeand the litigation and more effort is spent suing others for copyright einfingement than making the latest and greatest, what was Apple"s big thing a while back, oh yeah, lets make it white....
Works well for them and most users who have a hard time working out which end to speak in but not for those who actually want to own, use and control what their device actually does....
Take a lil bit, bit by bit til theres nothing less
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It's not just Samsung others are going the same route, LG for instance says it got something similar to KNOX in the pipeline, HTC makes it difficult as possible to root their phones, Sony is also going to follow a similar path to Samsung & LG as they all want the corp market to buy their smartphones and feel safe, sod the general consumer that not interested in any of this.
The option in the near future if you want to tinker without tripping something or blowing an efuse is to buy a Nexus.
Its also because of the data breach that chinese and NSA are doing. They want our phones and its data to be safe. Not like modified system files with backdoors and trojans. So its for our own safety. Yes u can always change the layouts, launchers and other stuff. But changing kernel and rooting devices to use system procedures. These are just for developers and those who actually know abt stuff. Not for the common man.
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Because Samsung need sale by millions on US like Apple but must be very Secured:
Quote from another post:
...The Knox Bootloader that is the first from a new type of bootloaders, block and not permit many things.
To understand what is the Knox and is bootloader and kernel read this:
https://www.samsungknox.com/en/overview/technical-details See also the video How to Use on it...
On the first attachment we see at left the usual Android, at right we see the Android whit the Samsung Security System Knox in white and the usual until now in blue. Whit this System people can have like two phones on one. A personal whit his own appl and a second secured to work on Enterprises and Governments and others.
The Knox Bootloader protect the secured part and not permit the flashing by Odin some files that it consider not secured like the oldest bootloaders. Then the Knox Warranty Void: 0x0 is first of all the Security System Knox secured. 0x1 is not secured.
For example I quote this from that doc/link:
Samsung KNOX offers a multi-faceted security solution rooted in the tamper-resistant device hardware, through the Linux kernel and Android operating system. The first line of defense against malicious attacks, Samsung KNOX is currently approved to run on US Department of Defense networks. (If flag 0x0, my opinion).
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And there's your problem.
Android is open, customizable, and free - at source code level. However, individual implementations (such as Samsung's Touchwiz) have so such requirement to be so.
People like us, who like to hack around with our phones, are not the market that Samsung is aiming for. The vast, vast majority of Samsung Android users are never going to root their phone, manually upgrade/downgrade their firmware via Odin, or install custom ROMs. These users are *never* going to even thing about tripping Knox, let alone do anything that might trip it.
To be fair, Samsung are not alone in this - pretty much all major phone vendors are doing similar. Someone works out how to get S-OFF on the HTC One, and HTC release a patch to prevent it.
Going forward, I see a time coming where if you want to have complete control over your device, you will have to buy a developer edition.
Regards,
Dave
Really? Another thread to whine about Knox?
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These companies get too big and start to dictate what the user wants instead of listening... And when they are sitting pretty on top they tend to stop developing new innovations because "They are the best" and then the item tends to stagnate with VERY little actual developement thrown in. Anything new is a kneejerk reaction to the next up and comer for king of the heap....
They will still say it is for the best of the user but in reality its because they're too damn lazy to work. Then comes the copyright everything attitudeand the litigation and more effort is spent suing others for copyright einfingement than making the latest and greatest, what was Apple"s big thing a while back, oh yeah, lets make it white....
Works well for them and most users who have a hard time working out which end to speak in but not for those who actually want to own, use and control what their device actually does....
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This post basically nails all the reasons in one fell swoop..
And then they are forcing to use original accessories which is really really stupid of Samsung.
Question: Why is Samsung acting like Apple?
Answer: Because Apple is the most successful company in the world.
Do you really need another reason?
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Question: Why is Samsung acting like Apple?
Answer: Because Apple is the most successful company in the world.
Do you really need another reason?
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C'mon!!
OK. I've had rooted and hacked everyphohe I've had.. Since Nokia monocromatic days, Sony Ericsson devices and now android... I've used almost every custom ROM.. Applied hundreds of modifications, etc, etc... Trust me. Its funny how ppl complain about software and this Knox thing... Android continues to be on top of iOS for many many reasons... Many many reasons!!
I personally like to root .. Of course but with power comes disorder.. Yes maybe cosmetic custom is one of the reasons for rooting..and its fun. But as it comes with plenty of features so it comes with problems never experienced on stock.. Like freezes, restarts,etc, etc.. U know what am talking about.. Most of us have chosen the Gnote 3 for its innumerable capacities over almost every device on the market. It is a beast. No doubt. For me I haven't seen yet any modification or feature that make me wanna root my note.. It is a beast as it is now. Am not running KK.. Uh uh.. I'll wait for a more completed version... I have more than 15 years using cellphones and customizing them.. And now it seems that companies are getting to know what customers need in their devices .. That's why rooting will no longer be necessary.. Why don't you sit and think about this? I've root my Sgs2 and could have the multi window feature when it came out.. And the list goes and goes.. Arent you able to see we are going to another place now with stock phones?? Actually CM will have its on device sponsored by Google itself !!! See for example the multiple features of the moto x ... It is like R2D2 haha.. Personally I'm happy with the nowadays devices..let s see what's next...
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At least Samsung will not shut down your phone and force update, like Crapple does, on Samsung at least you can disable updates. And blame other users as well for this lockdowns: how many people brick their phones when modding and then at least try to claim warranty repairs or exchange? I don't have to look far, my good friend rooted his Note3 and this made his Gear stop working. Couldn't fix it, so he took it to service center and strangely enough they did fix it for free (he may have unrooted first, I don't know), by bringing all to stock and he is a hacker, perfectly capable of figuring it out, just didn't want to bother I guess. And yes, because Crapple is so successful, many companies will follow suit, so blame all Crapple users as well. If Crapple was a total failure, no one would imitate them.
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At least Samsung will not shut down your phone and force update, like Crapple does, on Samsung at least you can disable updates. And blame other users as well for this lockdowns: how many people brick their phones when modding and then at least try to claim warranty repairs or exchange? I don't have to look far, my good friend rooted his Note3 and this made his Gear stop working. Couldn't fix it, so he took it to service center and strangely enough they did fix it for free (he may have unrooted first, I don't know), by bringing all to stock and he is a hacker, perfectly capable of figuring it out, just didn't want to bother I guess. And yes, because Crapple is so successful, many companies will follow suit, so blame all Crapple users as well. If Crapple was a total failure, no one would imitate them.
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Soon change in a few years. You'll see Samsung become more and more like Apple in time.
Samsung used to be just another Korean electronics company, like what LG is today. Then they started copying Apple. The more they copied Apple, the more successful they became. It's this simple. Believe it. If you do what successful people do, you become successful. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't work.
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Samsung used to be just another Korean electronics company, like what LG is today. Then they started copying Apple. The more they copied Apple, the more successful they became. It's this simple. Believe it. If you do what successful people do, you become successful. Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it doesn't work.
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Just like the sales of apple is now falling I believe it will also happen to samsung.
Another thing not related to your comment since they've stopped allot people from rooting and developing due to the warranty issues. Development is Damn slow now. Like they did with gokhanmoral (think thats how you spell it all credits to him) with the s2 they had cherry picked from his kernel tree to implement into the stock to make stock run even smoother. Now there's only really one kernel in development for the international model compared to what previous phones had where there were quite a range.
What's the point of having really high end specs if you can't really exploit them? and sticking to something which much lower and play 'safe'.
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This phone has a lot of potential, but it will never be anything more. The reason I say this is because of Blu's business model, which I was unaware of when I bought the device. They do not have an R&D department. They are just middle men. Gionee makes most of their phones and they simply rebrand them. That is why they offer zero support. They can't. The don't have anything to do with the phone other than distribution. So there will never be upgrades to software unless Gionee makes it, but that probably won't happen because they are not in software development business. They primarily only make the phones, so support is not a major concern for them as well. Blu just constantly buys phones and throws them out there. There was this phone, which was quickly forgotten as they transitioned to their next phone, the VIVO 5. There was supposed to be an MM upgrade for this device. I don't believe they ever saw it. Now they are onto the ENERGY XL and the VIVO will be forgotten. They will never release any code or info on the phones, because they can't. They don't own it or have created it. They just middle man and rebrand. Hence, there will always be little to no development for any Blu device.
This has been covered many MANY times here on XDA... Maybe you could have done some reading before purchase. I for one dont make purchases without at least reading some reviews and seeing what other people have said about the company / service / product.
One would assume a member of the XDA community would have the forethought to do the same.
Thank You for your opinion, but this isnt the venue for venting about buyers remorse, there are sites like amazon for that.
If you dont like the software on the phone, learn to code, or buy another phone, but spouting all the hate and bile about a self professed rebranding reseller is neither helpful or productive, so lets keep this forum about moving forward, not about personal regrets you project onto a company.
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This phone has a lot of potential, but it will never be anything more. The reason I say this is because of Blu's business model, which I was unaware of when I bought the device. They do not have an R&D department. They are just middle men. Gionee makes most of their phones and they simply rebrand them. That is why they offer zero support. They can't. The don't have anything to do with the phone other than distribution. So there will never be upgrades to software unless Gionee makes it, but that probably won't happen because they are not in software development business. They primarily only make the phones, so support is not a major concern for them as well. Blu just constantly buys phones and throws them out there. There was this phone, which was quickly forgotten as they transitioned to their next phone, the VIVO 5. There was supposed to be an MM upgrade for this device. I don't believe they ever saw it. Now they are onto the ENERGY XL and the VIVO will be forgotten. They will never release any code or info on the phones, because they can't. They don't own it or have created it. They just middle man and rebrand. Hence, there will always be little to no development for any Blu device.
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thanks for the comments .. puts a lot of things in perspective about the phone .. perhaps it's time to look elsewhere for my next one ..
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This has been covered many MANY times here on XDA... Maybe you could have done some reading before purchase. I for one dont make purchases without at least reading some reviews and seeing what other people have said about the company / service / product.
One would assume a member of the XDA community would have the forethought to do the same.
Thank You for your opinion, but this isnt the venue for venting about buyers remorse, there are sites like amazon for that.
If you dont like the software on the phone, learn to code, or buy another phone, but spouting all the hate and bile about a self professed rebranding reseller is neither helpful or productive, so lets keep this forum about moving forward, not about personal regrets you project onto a company.
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No this may not be a site for buyers remorse, but it is a site about facts and the fact is BLU does not own anything and therefore can not produce updates, release code, stock roms, or anything else beneficial to development. Is that better? BTW, I did research this phone and the vast majority of reviews were positive.
And once again if you had done even a TINY bit of research about the brand, you would have known this... they do not try to hide this information... so once again I am TRULY SORRY you bought something you dont like, and I am VERY GLAD you have learned from the experience and have grown from it...
Learn to code and help out instead of complaining...
As far as positive reviews, I love the phone, using different launcher and exposed its good phone... dont know what your beef is with the company or the phone... they could have locked the boot loader or encrypted it to the point we cant even root it, but none of that has happened... so quit being a "negative Nancy" and look at the brightside
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And once again if you had done even a TINY bit of research about the brand, you would have known this... they do not try to hide this information... so once again I am TRULY SORRY you bought something you dont like, and I am VERY GLAD you have learned from the experience and have grown from it...
Learn to code and help out instead of complaining...
As far as positive reviews, I love the phone, using different launcher and exposed its good phone... dont know what your beef is with the company or the phone... they could have locked the boot loader or encrypted it to the point we cant even root it, but none of that has happened... so quit being a "negative Nancy" and look at the brightside
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I can't code this phone and apparently not many can. There is no source code to work with that has been released and I don't have the time to reverse engineer this device. This site is about sharing information and if I can help some to not make the same mistake I did, then I have succeeded. So please don't shoot the messenger, BLU is who your issue should be with.
to shoot the messenger of this ancient news i'd need a musket... and also you wouldnt be one being shot, as this isnt even "news" its "olds"
There are A LOT of people that CAN code for this phone, we just only have 2 or 3 that are busy as hell, so we dont make much progress... once again if you want it served up on silver platter, learn to code, or put up some reward money (thats how we got root btw)
but "the airing of grievances" is for festivus not for xda, so quit banging that head on the aluminum pole
Once again, it is not a grievance only a warning to help others in making a decision about this device. There I have said it for the last time.
griev·ance
ˈɡrēvəns/
noun
a real or imagined wrong or other cause for complaint or protest, especially unfair treatment.
"failure to redress genuine grievances"
synonyms: injustice, wrong, injury, ill, unfairness; More
an official statement of a complaint over something believed to be wrong or unfair.
"three pilots have filed grievances against the company"
a feeling of resentment over something believed to be wrong or unfair.
"he was nursing a grievance"
"The reason I say this is because of Blu's business model, which I was unaware of when I bought the device."
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REED MOAR...
Feed your head...
your major point seems to be "I bought a really well reviewed phone"
I did research this phone and the vast majority of reviews were positive.
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And are upset no custom roms or updates available...
http://bluproducts.com/android-software-updates
kit kat is latest updates the advertise, you have lollipop but still arent happy, to the point you had to come on a community site who actually read, and like the phones they purchased...just to bad mouth and spout negativity toward a phone that most people who purchased are very happy with (hence the plethora of positive reviews you mentioned.)
this isnt a place to vent your personal experiences about a uninformed purchase you made (nor is it a place for me to decide ANYTHING, i AM NOT a MOD) but my suggestion is to do more research next time, maybe see if there are roms available for a phone BEFORE you purchase it, and research the companies record for updated BEFORE you purchase... being angry after the fact for making a poor decision not only is "crying over spilled milk" but also unbecoming and unhelpful...
BLU is a company with a reputation for selling CHEAP, REBRANDED, CHINESE phones from GIONEE... this is all COMMON KNOWLEDGE and very easily found out with very little effort... (one would even say less effort than the tirade post you started this whole debacle with, certainly less keystrokes)
SO by all means maybe do some more research (I tried to help with the definition of grievance for you, since you obviously you chose to ignore it, or do not know it)
also your "warning" is akin to standing outside McDonalds (or fast food grease hut of your choosing) and warning people entering they "served you a cheeseburger, when you wanted a cheeseburger with onions, but didnt look or ask if a cheeseburger comes with onions, AND THEY ALSO SERVE CHEAP FATTENING FOODS HIGH IN SODIUM"
the basic point being you cant flash a rom to a device, so now you have sour grapes and have to spit whatever tripe you can to "warn" people on a place, that IN THE TITLE OF THE WEBSITE states "Developers," im sure we need it... thanks for all the help!
XDA isn't a place for venting because you didn't research before buying.
Thread closed.
So, here's my problem:
I bought a Blu Life One X3 late last year since it was on sale for $150 ($100 lower than the current MSRP).
Since it was still a new release, I thought that the modders would come after it eventually, so I just waited it out.
Many months later, there has been little to no word about any sort of root method, it seems like the Life One X3 turned out to be very unpopular.
So far, I have been able to get it into the OEM unlock screen using adb, prompting a press of either of the volume buttons to confirm unlock, only that the volume up button won't do anything, and the volume down just cancels the process.
Any help at all?
Big thanks!
Ferchito
Hi Xiione,
I bought a couple of X3s recently and I was also expecting some development for them already but I only found your thread.
I think there are chances to root the X3 and install customs rooms since it has the same chipset as the BLU Vivo 5 (Chipset Mediatek MT6753, CPU Octa-core 1.3 GHz) and the Vivo 5 has extensive coverage and even kernel sources available. Vivo 5 doesn't have a fingerprint sensor but the BLU Life One X2 Mini has one that I'd be willing to bet is the same as the X3, so drivers may work for it too. This is the route I will follow but I'm only getting started with this stuff so it will probably take a few weeks to get some results.
Hopefully others will join
Cheers
Hey dude!
Glad to see at least one other living human that bought the same phone... good to hear that there might be some hope for this poor device after all.
I'm not so experienced in this area, so there is only so much I can achieve at the moment. I'm looking forward to hearing back from you if any developments arise, I'll do my best to dig around for a solution.
- Xiione
anyone find a method
ive been trying to find an one click to root my blu life 1x3 but no luck what so ever. Has any one had any luck yet
CrimsonKing420 said:
ive been trying to find an one click to root my blu life 1x3 but no luck what so ever. Has any one had any luck yet
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You will not find a one click root for that device. The problem is Blu is still recovery from their security scandal. So most people won't buy their devices.
funny thing is... i don't really consider rooting devices as necessary as it once was (for me). But still... it bugs me to no end i can't get this phone rooted.
I'm having the same problem as the OP.. i'm able to get into fastboot mode, but oem unlock option leads to a dead volume up button which leaves me nowhere. it really is to bad there's so little interest in BLU. they make decent phones at great prices, imo. but i also know they make it very difficult for developers as well.. difficult to get source and such. ...
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funny thing is... i don't really consider rooting devices as necessary as it once was (for me). But still... it bugs me to no end i can't get this phone rooted.
I'm having the same problem as the OP.. i'm able to get into fastboot mode, but oem unlock option leads to a dead volume up button which leaves me nowhere. it really is to bad there's so little interest in BLU. they make decent phones at great prices, imo. but i also know they make it very difficult for developers as well.. difficult to get source and such. ...
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They are unpopular due to the security issues the company has faced. Not to mention they are just rebranded chinese devices. Which is why sourse is hard to get for them as they dont really make the devices.
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They are unpopular due to the security issues the company has faced. Not to mention they are just rebranded chinese devices. Which is why sourse is hard to get for them as they dont really make the devices.
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I understand the security concerns. However, it's inconceivable that they would not have source, regardless of where the phones come from. If they released the code, more secure versions of the OS could be made available.
Oscar_david said:
I understand the security concerns. However, it's inconceivable that they would not have source, regardless of where the phones come from. If they released the code, more secure versions of the OS could be made available.
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It's very common with rebranded Chinese phones. Micromax (and oem in India) had the same issue. The main issue is the oem doesn't release it as it's not required in China. And no it couldn't. The kernel source is only a small part of it.
Best bet is to be more selective with your next device purchase
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It's very common with rebranded Chinese phones. Micromax (and oem in India) had the same issue. The main issue is the oem doesn't release it as it's not required in China. And no it couldn't. The kernel source is only a small part of it.
Best bet is to be more selective with your next device purchase
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That's funny.
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That's funny.
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Either way it's still the truth. Just do better research next time. Good luck.
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Either way it's still the truth. Just do better research next time. Good luck.
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No, really. You're hilarious!
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No, really. You're hilarious!
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I'm not the one that bought a joke of a device. Or spent money without doing any research. But ok. I have been doing this for decades. So good luck with that.
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I'm not the one that bought a joke of a device. Or spent money without doing any research. But ok. I have been doing this for decades. So good luck with that.
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Do you do stand up?
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Do you do stand up?
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I do. I'll be at your preschool later today after nap time so if your a good boy you might get to see it. If you can stay awake passed the puppet show.
Look here is the bottom line. You bought a joke of a device. Because you didn't do research. Now you have malware as well as it reporting to Chinese servers all your private info (you can look it up if you want.)
But to save you asking mommy for internet time
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pc...lu-gets-wrist-slap-over-chinese-spyware?amp=1
So good luck with that. I hope you learn before another year goes by.
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I do. I'll be at your preschool later today after nap time so if your a good boy you might get to see it. If you can stay awake passed the puppet show.
Look here is the bottom line. You bought a joke of a device. Because you didn't do research. Now you have malware as well as it reporting to Chinese servers all your private info (you can look it up if you want.)
But to save you asking mommy for internet time
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pc...lu-gets-wrist-slap-over-chinese-spyware?amp=1
So good luck with that. I hope you learn before another year goes by.
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Your humor is unparalleled.
Can't say much for your helpfulness.
I'd throw rotten tomatoes at any show you put on though.
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Your humor is unparalleled.
Can't say much for your helpfulness.
I'd throw rotten tomatoes at any show you put on though.
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Well to be honest from your pic of devices 2 things are clear.
1. My shows would be above your station in life.
2. You couldn't afford my shows.
Look you were told all the help you are gonna get over the past year. And yet you keep trying. You know that's the text book definition of of insanity right?
Even if you managed to find the source guess what. Your bootloader is locked and there is no unlock. So if with the code You can do nothing. Not like you would be able to understand it even if you got it I fear.
Just accept that you messed up and move on. We all do it. It's called growing up.
Oh and next time you need help. Mugjt try a support site and not a developers site. But that might be above your head.
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Well to be honest from your pic of devices 2 things are clear.
1. My shows would be above your station in life.
2. You couldn't afford my shows.
Look you were told all the help you are gonna get over the past year. And yet you keep trying. You know that's the text book definition of of insanity right?
Even if you managed to find the source guess what. Your bootloader is locked and there is no unlock. So if with the code You can do nothing. Not like you would be able to understand it even if you got it I fear.
Just accept that you messed up and move on. We all do it. It's called growing up.
Oh and next time you need help. Mugjt try a support site and not a developers site. But that might be above your head.
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You really outdo yourself with every post. I am having a laugh.
But truly I say onto you: you don't understand my choice of devices. You ought to learn to let go and move on when that's the case case. Nobody and I really do mean nobody needs your condescension (read $h*t).
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You really outdo yourself with every post. I am having a laugh.
But truly I say onto you: you don't understand my choice of devices. You ought to learn to let go and move on when that's the case case. Nobody and I really do mean nobody needs your condescension (read $h*t).
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That is a BS excuse. With the internet you can have any device you want. Just save up for it. Its that simple. As for the condescension, you are ready far to much into things. You can get great devices for really cheap these days. I mean even almost good devices like Xiaomi are really cheap.
I was here long before you and ill be here modding devices and building the os for my device long after you are gone.
Let me explain. What happens to you and your device I really couldnt care less about nor does anyone here. It is your problem. Watch the Video if you are confused.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA
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That is a BS excuse. With the internet you can have any device you want. Just save up for it. Its that simple. As for the condescension, you are ready far to much into things. You can get great devices for really cheap these days. I mean even almost good devices like Xiaomi are really cheap.
I was here long before you and ill be here modding devices and building the os for my device long after you are gone.
Let me explain. What happens to you and your device I really couldnt care less about nor does anyone here. It is your problem. Watch the Video if you are confused.
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???
Your presumption that I need to save to buy a phone is almost cute.
???
Your blindness to your own condescension is simply sad.
Whatever else you do on xda, you clearly have nothing to contribute to this thread.
I am starting this thread for all of you who are frustrated either because you bricked your whyreds in unawareness or confusion with all the anti 3 and 4 sh*t, or because you can't even install ota's and have to do some extra job to achieve keeping your bootloader partitions unapdated, therefore your anti level to 3. I regard xiaomi's stance to this issue as ignorant and even unacceptable, since they should firstly have informed as for the ARB changes, remove the ARB with the unlock of bootloader, give permission immediately to anyone who bricked their devices, and other... Therefore I believe it's our duty to do something for this! Together, massively! That's the only way to get rid of all that ARB burdain and headache. So let's find what we should do, what the best strategy will be! From a new, better way of ARB implementation to even total revocation of it. And from mass reports to a massive direct request to the company, from all of us! Let's join the RIOT!!!
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I am starting this thread for all of you who are frustrated either because you bricked your whyreds in unawareness or confusion with all the anti 3 and 4 sh*t, or because you can't even install ota's and have to do some extra job to achieve keeping your bootloader partitions unapdated, therefore your anti level to 3. I regard xiaomi's stance to this issue as ignorant and even unacceptable, since they should firstly have informed as for the ARB changes, remove the ARB with the unlock of bootloader, give permission immediately to anyone who bricked their devices, and other... Therefore I believe it's our duty to do something for this! Together, massively! That's the only way to get rid of all that ARB burdain and headache. So let's find what we should do, what the best strategy will be! From a new, better way of ARB implementation to even total revocation of it. And from mass reports to a massive direct request to the company, from all of us! Let's join the RIOT!!!
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Chill.
They dont give a shiet
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I am starting this thread for all of you who are frustrated either because you bricked your whyreds in unawareness or confusion with all the anti 3 and 4 sh*t, or because you can't even install ota's and have to do some extra job to achieve keeping your bootloader partitions unapdated, therefore your anti level to 3. I regard xiaomi's stance to this issue as ignorant and even unacceptable, since they should firstly have informed as for the ARB changes, remove the ARB with the unlock of bootloader, give permission immediately to anyone who bricked their devices, and other... Therefore I believe it's our duty to do something for this! Together, massively! That's the only way to get rid of all that ARB burdain and headache. So let's find what we should do, what the best strategy will be! From a new, better way of ARB implementation to even total revocation of it. And from mass reports to a massive direct request to the company, from all of us! Let's join the RIOT!!!
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Forget about it dude, Xiaomi has implemented ARB to Mi 6x as well now and will implement it on all Xiaomi devices soon. And also on the miui china forums they clearly say that do not try to downgrade as your device will get bricked, which makes me to think that bricking due to ARB was intentionally done by Xiaomi.
Here's the source: miui.com/thread-17234438-1-1.html
Are You Serious..?
kostas gp said:
I am starting this thread for all of you who are frustrated either because you bricked your whyreds in unawareness or confusion. I regard this issue as ignorant and unacceptable, since they should firstly have informed as for the ARB changes, remove the ARB with the unlock of bootloader, give permission immediately to anyone who bricked their devices
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Your Just Killing Time With This Thread Right..?
Do you honestly think someone at Xiaomi just woke up one morning.. got a wild hair up there you know what... and said DO THIS!
They are not an evil company.. This decision was discussed ( Pros and Cons ) and for the "Betterment Of The Company" the Anti-Rollback proceedure was implemented.
And there are already proceedures in place here at XDA to recover your device..
Nobody forced you to install Company Beta Software on your device.. There are PLENTY of SOLID ROM's & Kernels that were right here on XDA... and ready to go.
This is XDA.. and this is ANDROID.. *MOD-CENTRAL*
"Not The MIUI Beta Store"
Don't Be A Beta Tester.
These Incredible Developer's have given up Personnal Time, Family Time and who knows what other time's to Create for this incredible community.. and not charging a dime. Show appreciation by trying their masterpieces and dropping them at least a "Thanks" for their Time & Effort.. even if that ROM did not work out for you.
Get your device TWRP'ed with a No-Verity Script... Rooted... with Magisk 16+... with maybe a touch of Substatum & Xposed installed for good measure..
Otherwise.. What The Hell Are You Doing Here On XDA
The Horse Is OUT OF THE BARN.. *****ing About "Anti- Why" will not serve any purpose whatsoever at this stage.
Get Rooted & Rom'ed and Be Happy! :highfive:
AntiRollback Protection is mandatory for device launching with android 9, so try to adopt ARP and deal with it.
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AntiRollback Protection is mandatory for device launching with android 9, so try to adopt ARP and deal with it.
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That's good, I support it .... until xiaomi implemented it. Using google guideline, UBL users should not be affected by this. At most, they simply can't downgrade, but not until bricked.
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AntiRollback Protection is mandatory for device launching with android 9, so try to adopt ARP and deal with it.
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isnt also the 2 year cycle for upgrade to android googles. yet RN5AI will get 1.??
I admit that you are all being more realistic and reasonable than me. Perhaps I am too ambitious and optimistic on this. If we take though into consideration how xiaomi's actions and stance to us excels we can assume or predict that things can get worse. Their sales are going even better, they are expanding this stupid ARB implementation to further devices, so why not proceed into even more unfavorable actions for us, the flashaholics. Maybe they even forbid us to unlock our bootloaders at all, at some point. And then xiaomi will stop being that super vfm and quality firm, regarding the smartphones, for us. And then what? Well go buy Samsungs? I am really frustrated.
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isnt also the 2 year cycle for upgrade to android googles. yet RN5AI will get 1.??
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Dont worry Redmi Note 5/Pro will get Android P for sure... because it launched with android Oreo and with project treble compatibility we can expect android P. Moreover we are in XDA majority of people wont care about official update
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I admit that you are all being more realistic and reasonable than me. Perhaps I am too ambitious and optimistic on this. If we take though into consideration how xiaomi's actions and stance to us excels we can assume or predict that things can get worse. Their sales are going even better, they are expanding this stupid ARB implementation to further devices, so why not proceed into even more unfavorable actions for us, the flashaholics. Maybe they even forbid us to unlock our bootloaders at all, at some point. And then xiaomi will stop being that super vfm and quality firm, regarding the smartphones, for us. And then what? Well go buy Samsungs? I am really frustrated.
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Samsung phone has unlockable bootloader ???
But... What If...
kostas gp said:
I admit that you are all being more realistic and reasonable than me. Perhaps I am too ambitious and optimistic on this.. Their sales are going even better, they are expanding ARB implementation to further devices. Maybe they even forbid us to unlock our bootloaders.. And then what? go buy Samsungs? I am really frustrated.
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What If... Aliens Take Down Our Cell Towers?
What If... Somone Drops An EMP Weapon With Such Scope... That Electronics Are Shut Down Forever?
You are worrying about a future you cannot predict.
Live in "The Present" fix your device if you bricked it... Root and stick to Custom ROM's.
There are no *Anti-Attacks* happening in that reality.
If you want a *Guaranteed* please don't mess with my cellphone device.. BUY A ONEPLUS ______ whatever.
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Samsung phone has unlockable bootloader ???
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Yes Sir..
I don't know what part of this planet you reside in.. but the Exynos Variants of Samsung's Do Not lock their loaders.
RaiderWill said:
What If... Aliens Take Down Our Cell Towers?
What If... Somone Drops An EMP Weapon With Such Scope... That Electronics Are Shut Down Forever?
You are worrying about a future you cannot predict.
Live in "The Present" fix your device if you bricked it... Root and stick to Custom ROM's.
There are no *Anti-Attacks* happening in that reality.
If you want a *Guaranteed* please don't mess with my cellphone device.. BUY A ONEPLUS ______ whatever.
Yes Sir..
I don't know what part of this planet you reside in.. but the Exynos Variants of Samsung's Do Not lock their loaders.
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Yup.. exynos variant can be unlocked easily.. i got confused with samsung phones with Qualcomm processor
Recently I came across this issue, since I just recently bought this phone. Usually I will root my phones as soon as I get them, by following the excellent guides in XDA here, but this time, I didn't do much research before getting this phone (Mate 20 X). Aside from this unlocking bootloader issue, I like this phone and I hand-picked this from my list of options because it ticked what I was looking for in my new purchase - big battery, IR and 3.5" audio jack. Plus the latest 7nm 980 Kirin processor is a nice hardware to have. (I had Mi Max 2 before, but had some issues.)
I don't intend to pay any 3rd party and pay prohibitively expensive money to unlock my phone. It's absurd how much they are ripping off the people and on the other hand, I'm surprised how much people are willing to throw money at these dubious sites. Now crossing 100++ USD!!?? What the....
Anyway, back to my question :
1. How do these sites get YOUR phone's codes? I'm sure they are not paying Huawei to get your codes. If not from Huawei, then how are they able to obtain the codes just by having the serial number and IMEI numbers?
2. I hope it's just a matter of time before XDA developers can find out how they do this so that this can be shared with the community so that we can continue unlocking like how we used to do before with other phones.
This is an enthusiast community, not some dumb people who are ready to throw money to some 3rd party hackers to get your codes.
And looking at the latest developments, most of these dubious sites have ceased providing the service....wonder why. Something's fishy here. And prices are shooting up, no doubt, fueled by so many people ready to throw money for them.
I am not a developer but always follow the guides written by excellent deveopers in XDA. It's fun and educational that way. We all have paid for the phones ourselves. Tinkering with our phones is our hobby.
I wish people won't rush to pay and get 3rd party questionable "unlockers" spoil the spirit of XDA.
EDIT : Edited title.
amgreenhawk said:
Recently I came across this issue since I just recently bought this phone. Usually, I will root my phones as soon as I get them, by following the excellent guides in XDA here, but this time, I didn't do much research before getting this phone (Mate 20 X). Aside from this unlocking bootloader issue, I like this phone and I hand-picked this from my list of options because it ticked what I was looking for in my new purchase - big battery, IR and 3.5" audio jack. Plus the latest 7nm 980 Kirin processor is a nice hardware to have. (I had Mi Max 2 before, but had some issues.)
I don't intend to pay any 3rd party and pay prohibitively expensive money to unlock my phone. It's absurd how much they are ripping off the people and on the other hand, I'm surprised how much people are willing to throw money at these dubious sites. Now crossing 100++ USD!!?? What the....
Anyway, back to my question :
1. How do these sites get YOUR phone's codes? I'm sure they are not paying Huawei to get your codes. If not from Huawei, then how are they able to obtain the codes just by having the serial number and IMEI numbers?
2. I hope it's just a matter of time before XDA developers can find out how they do this so that this can be shared with the community so that we can continue unlocking like how we used to do before with other phones.
This is an enthusiast community, not some dumb people who are ready to throw money to some 3rd party hackers to get your codes.
And looking at the latest developments, most of these dubious sites have ceased providing the service....wonder why. Something's fishy here. And prices are shooting up, no doubt, fueled by so many people ready to throw money for them.
I am not a developer but always follow the guides written by excellent deveopers in XDA. It's fun and educational that way. We all have paid for the phones ourselves. Tinkering with our phones is our hobby.
I wish people won't rush to pay and get 3rd party questionable "unlockers" spoil the spirit of XDA.
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I doubt that anybody can provide unlock code without inside information/certain servers approach. If that hadn't been true, xda would have the code a long time ago.
What raises two issues. The first one is why Huawei changed its policy regarding AL00 bootloader after it was already on the market. Huawei had known all implications of unlocked bootloader a long time ago, that is the reason why it had stopped providing codes for other models recently.
It could be assumed that Huawei lured buyers to went for this model because they believe that it is only with unlocked bootloader and it will stay that way. A lot of buyers had wanted an unlocked bootloader, otherwise, they would have taken the international model which required fairly less customization.
Locking bootloader out of the blue and then enabling trading it through middlemen for huge extra profits is at least unfair to the buyers.
And there could be more. Is it possible that sudden change toward locking bootloader arise from the temptation to control users? That stuff that is basically what US accused Huawei and what makes discomfort even in more countries?
Finally, there is one question for xda, too. Until recently xda was a synonym for a free exchange of knowledge, solutions, software. Basically, almost everything I know about Android, phones, hacking, I've got from xda. And if I have something to share, I do it with gratitude for everything I received and gained from this great community. But I'm not even important, my knowledge is basic. There are many devs with a massive contribution, whole solutions, modifications, entire systems. For free.
It's quite acceptable to make reference to paid solutions or stuff and to recommend it in the forum. As it was always acceptable presenting royalty-free solutions in the forum and offering more customizing one via Google Play or similar portals. Or asking for a donation. But selling pure commercial solutions for ripoff money for something that has been already paid to the phone producer is an entirely different story. It may turn this forum into a commercial portal. If one could gain huge profits for participation only due to his connection with the producer, what is the point to spend hours, days and weeks of hard work just to bring a perfect rom or solution to the community?
Then, perhaps we'd need another forum. For contributors instead of traders.
Bootloader codes can only be provided by Huawei. FunkyHuawei and other "sellers" likely had an inside source that was providing codes at a cost - these people likely lost their jobs which is why there are no codes available from any source. XDA has found ways to load custom recoveries on many devices in the past, but this was never by locating the bootloader unlock code, only by exploiting a security flaw.
Personally, I don't think this issue has anything to do with Huawei wanting to lock down users. (despite what they're telling us) I think they are scared of research firms finding evidence of Huawei stealing hardware/software from other manufacturers. I don't mean this as a dig on Huawei, I think Apple is guilty of this as well. Both guilty in stealing radio hardware design and software from Qualcomm.
Has anyone actually obtained an unlock code in the last few weeks? If so, for which version of Mate 20 X and how much did you pay?
It's simple guys, 2 options:
Either 1. Insider that gets very busy now because if the many requests since OEM unlock is available again in the new updates.. so price goes up.
Or 2. Someone has the algorithm to generate these codes based on IMEI.
Since the price has went up by 4x I think option one is more realistic, however I don't rule out option 2. Perhaps we can fix a bounty for a team that can look into a key generator?
https://theunlockingcompany.com
Seems to be advertising to unlock at 39.99 US. I am hesitant though not only because of the issue developers have with the ethics behind such a service, but becasue I am a bit of a newb. Once I give out my IMEI number, doesn't that put me at risk of ending up with a brick?
s327374 said:
https://theunlockingcompany.com
Seems to be advertising to unlock at 39.99 US. I am hesitant though not only because of the issue developers have with the ethics behind such a service, but becasue I am a bit of a newb. Once I give out my IMEI number, doesn't that put me at risk of ending up with a brick?
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I just bought it I hope to have the code in 12 hours
Kurocham said:
I just bought it I hope to have the code in 12 hours
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Wait ... I am now advertising for them. I thought the point of this thread was to not pay these companies. Although I am interested to know if your EVR-AL00 gets a code. I will be tempted
s327374 said:
https://theunlockingcompany.com
Seems to be advertising to unlock at 39.99 US. I am hesitant though not only because of the issue developers have with the ethics behind such a service, but becasue I am a bit of a newb. Once I give out my IMEI number, doesn't that put me at risk of ending up with a brick?
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Are you sure this company will give you code to unlock bootloader? Looks like what they do is unlock phone from carrier. For example, you buy a phone from AT&T and you want to use it on Tmobile but you can't because it is carrier locked.
Kurocham said:
I just bought it I hope to have the code in 12 hours
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You realize that this is the unlock code for the simcard Carrier right? That has nothing to do with bootloader unlock...
Kurocham said:
I just bought it I hope to have the code in 12 hours
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mscion said:
Are you sure this company will give you code to unlock bootloader? Looks like what they do is unlock phone from carrier. For example, you buy a phone from AT&T and you want to use it on Tmobile but you can't because it is carrier locked.
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I am not sure - I just assumed that this would be for unlocking bootloader.... I guess we will know from Kurocham soon.
ilovepj said:
You realize that this is the unlock code for the simcard Carrier right? That has nothing to do with bootloader unlock...
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OMFG I DID NOT KNOW!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying:
Kurocham said:
OMFG I DID NOT KNOW!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying:
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Sorry bro. I feel your pain. I am sorry for the accidental misdirection.