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Are you buying it? Dev friendly??

1st post in this forum!
Are you buying?, if so, what are you replacing?. I haven't been visiting XDA in a while, I used to visit everyday, and tinker regularly. I'm replacing a Tmo Note 3, yes unlocked , rooted and ROM'd. I was just waiting for the right one I guess.
Camera and removable battery were important to me. I wish this had 4GB RAM, but I think it will be fine.
As far as unlockable bootloader's , I've never owned a Blu ( supposedly rebranded Gionee), but some research looks like they have fastboot, and have been unlocked in the past. I'm hoping this remains to be true.
I hope to see this place bustling, with the pricepoint of the device , there should be plenty of involvement.
Ciao!:highfive:

Thinking about it.... This versus Moto X pure versus OP2

This phone has seriously peaked my interest. My HTC One M8 has been on the fritz lately. The power button has become super sensitive and I find it turns itself on and off at times, thinking the button is pressed when it isn't :/
Im looking to get something soon and this phone looks like a steal for what we get.

I really dig this phone. I don't know about the lack of an app tray. is there much dev support for this phone? just wondering if I get it will I be stuck with basically an iphone layout lol

I currently have a Note 4 Att (locked bootloader) and am sick of no root. So if this phone gets rooted and has a good dev community bringing out ROMs, count me in.

Root shouldn't be an issue.

sigtau2001 said:
I really dig this phone. I don't know about the lack of an app tray. is there much dev support for this phone? just wondering if I get it will I be stuck with basically an iphone layout lol
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Use Google Now launcher... how do people like you even find XDA Forums when you dont even know to switch the launcher...
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That new Helio X10 processor might actually get some good support. Plus its a Gionee under the skin so people have had it for about a month in China and India.

Moynia said:
Use Google Now launcher... how do people like you even find XDA Forums when you dont even know to switch the launcher...
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That new Helio X10 processor might actually get some good support. Plus its a Gionee under the skin so people have had it for about a month in China and India.
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I searched assh*le and it brought up Moynia and I thought I would come on here and irritate you. Maybe I missed something, I thought this thread was talking about developer support. I assume you started somewhere and didn't just wake up knowing everything.

Im stuck between this and moto x pure... IDK WHAT 2 DO!!!

Lenn0x I've had the first 2 moto xs. While they are sweet phones I don't really see that much difference between 2014 and 2015. I like new and/or different features in my phones.

Definitely going to give this a look. I have a Huawei Mate2, but it appears Huawei wants to go all "samsung" on their pricing with
their new models. Soon as it is in the wild, and a few reviews come back, may have to give this one a spin.

If this is just a rebranded Gionee Elife E8, I wonder if we will be able to have a joint Dev community where we can use roms for both. If it's the same internal, theirs says Gionee and ours say Blu outside, then I don't see why it wouldn't work.

I was looking to replace my Oneplus One. Had an invite for the 2 but decided to pass since the specs aren't really that much better. The Pure XL releases on my birthday so thought I'd give it a try.

Warning
*EDIT*- I discovered just now that this forum is for a different phone than the one that I owned, and the photos and specs that are provided are for the wrong phone. So, this information is not applicable to the device that will be released in September of 2015. However, it is still valuable information as the actual Pure XL will be using the same Amigo UI that the Life Pure XL did, and could very possibly have the same crippling bugs that the last version did. Or not. I will keep this here as a cautionary tale for all.
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I owned this phone between June of 2014 and April of 2015, and I had quite the experience with it. Yes, the specs look fantastic, just as good as a OnePlus One or a Galaxy Note 3. However, the software and lack of support from the manufacturer are what will kill your experience with this phone.
This device is the Gionee Elife E7 rebranded for sale in North America. I would suggest looking at the forum for that device in depth before deciding to commit to this phone. I have not checked on it in a while, but the phone will likely ship with Jellybean (4.2.2) and you will have to go through many hoops in order to possibly get a hacked, Taiwanese version of KitKat. If you are interested in Lollipop, I would forget this phone entirely. The stock ROM on this phone is a messy pile of Indian and Chinese Engrish that will leave you extremely frustrated. There are crippling bugs such as my very favorite: not being able to change the soft keyboard. Whatever you choose initially, it will be stuck that way unless you factory reset the phone. Seriously. You will similarly be able to change the default home screen, once and once only. The fancy camera sounds great, until you aren't able to actually take pictures because the Camera app FC's every time you open it. Try to use Google Camera app instead? Great idea, except that the full 16 MP resolution isn't supported by other apps. The installed music app doesn't let you sort by any parameter, you have to manually look through a huge list of all of your songs. Little things like this that you would expect thorough testing in development to have addressed have been ignored.
Also, there are only a couple of custom ROM's for the E7, one of which works fine and the other (Nori) will brick your device completely and utterly. There are several versions of this phone in the wild, one of which has true LTE support and for which Nori's ROM was made, and which the Pure XL is not. DO NOT FLASH THIS ROM. You will end up with a $300 piece of plastic. To be completely safe, do not flash any ROM that is not designed specifically for this phone. Since there are currently none, then this phone is a poor choice for those wanting to take that route.
The most you will be able to safely and reliably do with this phone is root it. Even then, you have to use King Root which is questionable at best. Don't have a Windows computer to run King Root on? That's as far as you can get. I would strongly recommend that anyone who has even the smallest desire to root, control and customize their phone (everyone reading this post) to stay as far away as you can from this phone and buy a used OnePlus One or a Note 3. The prices are almost comparable and you will end up with a phone that is truly useable and customizable.

Eyeing this phone as well, came here to see if people had luck rooting these phones with different ROMs.
If not, would probably just get a Nexus phone that is being announced soon, or even the original Nexus 6 (same price now).
And there's always the LG G3 or G4 (still using the Optimus G (G1) with the help of CM to keep it a valid phone)

Almost pulled the trigger on a Nexus 6, and then I remember about this BLU Pure XL. I was in contact with the company when they had it on Kickstarter. My main concern was the use of MTK processor. While I wasn't worrying about the performance of it (MTK high end chips are powerful!), I didn't like how they set up the internal storage partition. So I asked them and they assured me that there wouldn't be storage partition on this device, meaning about 50-55 gb would be user accessible (I deleted the email so I have no proof of their claim now). Too bad at that time I didn't need a new phone, otherwise I could have take advantage of their price of $249 (or $299, don't remember).
Anyway, I'd probably pick this over the Motorola Nexus 6, but am still considering the Oneplus One. Decision decision... too bad my LG G2 crapped out on me after that stupid Android Lollipop update. Totally messed up my phone. Otherwise I could probably still use it for another 2 years.

felix168 said:
too bad my LG G2 crapped out on me after that stupid Android Lollipop update. Totally messed up my phone. Otherwise I could probably still use it for another 2 years.
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Not try to use LGNPST recovery???

Matty77 said:
Not try to use LGNPST recovery???
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so my LG G2, after that Lousypop update, has gone from battery drain to WIFI drops, to the latest which was when I wasn't able to answer an incoming call. When that happened, the phone would just keep ringing and ringing, and I wasn't able to do anything with it. None of the button was responding. So I went online to see if someone came up with a fix. In the back of my mind, I knew there was a good chance everything would go back to normal once I reboot, but then since I wasn't even able to turn it off, I came across some Youtube video of a guy trying to remove the battery (which was a dumb idea to begin with... there is a reason that these batteries aren't to be messed with in the first place), and I thought maybe I could disconnect it to power off the phone. Well, I didn't get that far. LOL... I kind of broke the back panel a tad and trim, and I put everything together and just shoved the phone inside the closet to let it ring and drain out the battery. The next morning, charged the dead phone and turned it back on, everything seemed normal, except for all that cosmetic damage that I made, which I was more upset with myself since I have always kept it in tip top shape. And last week, it developed a new problem... sometimes I voice calls aren't clear, and speakers are skipping. Time for a new phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BLU Pure XL is looking better and better by the minute... until I realized it's actually even taller than the Motorola Nexus 6! LMAO! decision decision...

At this point, I'm one foot closer to getting this thing too. I have an Asus Zenfone 2 which I really like but I just had it replaced due to the cellular connection on the second SIM slot in my house and the problem still persists so it seems it is a device problem. Possible theory is because the second SIM slot only supports 2G data although why that would interfere with the ability for mere phone calls I don't know, but in any event, the second SIM slot will not work in my house and this is the second phone now, so it is going back. I am going to try one more replacement SIM card again just like last time, but I already did that once before and it didn't help. So the Blu Pure XL both slots I think are LTE so I shouldn't have the same issue if that 2G slot is the culprit issue. If it is, then clearly for some odd reason, my house, in a major suburban metro area, just must deflect those signals in some bizarre fashion because I can gets calls everywhere else, but today I tried numerous times already and it is non-functional and I already wrote in to ASUS. So I think I am going to have to return the Zenfone. I can't make calls on it today already from the second SIM-the line is unavailable and when it becomes available, it drops off right away. Obviously this is not workable and it's the ZF2 as a device that doesn't work in my house on SIM 2, but SIM 1 works just fine. Issue is, I have two lines.

I've been rocking the oneplus for about a year. Amazing phone. By far the best I've owned. My days of waiting for an upgrade are over. I plan to buy the pure xl. My only fear is that it won't be popular with the devs therefore no cool stuff to flash. I will wait a month or 2 to see what happens. At the very least I'd be OK with cm nightlies. My wife has had 2 blu phones in a row. Good quality and performance for the price.

Pure to get N

https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!

While I would like to assume that the Moto x pure edition will get it, this article seems to be an opinion piece with little or no supporting info other than his ramblings and definitely nothing from Lenovo/Moto.
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Nice. Another garbage site with no credible info. I love how in their comments this "Motorola" author is answering questions on wether or not so and so device will get Nougat, like they're 100% sure.

Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.

aybarrap1 said:
Would love to see the source. Anyone can take a guess like this and have a good chance of getting it right. What got me: The G4 line "might" get the update?! WT... The phone was practically just released so unless Lenovo just really wants to destroy the Moto product line, it would be stupid not to release N for the phone.
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The g4s are garbage and I spoke to a rep today and he told me to stay away from them haha a Lenovo rep said this! Bought one yesterday and the screen was all glitchy took it back today traded it out and paid the difference for the plus and same thing before even leaving the parking lot. Finally got pissed and said screw it and got a moto x pure style again. Loved this phone the first time I had it and love it now! Guernetee it gets nuoget and if it dosent.. well.. there will ALWAYS be Roms haha lol. But what I was trying to get at with the g4 phones is that's more than likely the reason they "might" get it.. I'd doubt it though honestly. Lenovo ruined the Motorola line. Ya the z is bad ass but come on man. The pure style was the best phone they had made in YEARS! Besides the Nexus 6. I'm super disappointed in the joke Lenovo has made!

Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...

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Reasons to believe End of September to mid-October is the best hope to get nougat for MXPE:
- it coincides with quarterly security updates for this device
- it's about the same time difference from Google releasing marshmallow last year.
- it skipped 6.0.1 so it has just time to play with N previews.
- it's the period when the new Moto flagship will be released unlocked worldwide. That means these devices will be getting an update quickly (inclusion Verizon already offered on US) to boost sales. But also updating its previous flagship would convince customers to buy the newest flagship. I believe that sales of Moto Z international will not be good if our device does not get an update on the framework i mentioned. Didn't we all by this device because we thought it would be updated quickly?
- Finally, I believe all the hype in the media that mentions Motorola as a company that is expected to deliver fast nougat update is financed by Motorola itself. While they won't give us directly a timeframe, they use media to keep up the sales of their new and numerous line of devices. Not to forget that Moto maker still has stocks of MXPE which they want to sell, but strangely have not lowered the price since mother's day...
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Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?

aybarrap1 said:
Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?

donrojo said:
My line of thought is simple: their new flagship costs almost twice it's predecessor, or even three times if you get a certain alluring mod. The only way to convince a buyer spend more money is to assure that expense is worth it on a longer term. Long term means continuity of updates in this business. But who will be convinced of that if Moto ditched our device before it reached a year (thinking latest update for us was the May security patches)..
You already have fears of not getting updates, probably because we didn't get 6.0.1! Would you think of buying a Z Droid if you know your mxpe would not get N (even if you could afford it)?
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There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.

aybarrap1 said:
Skipping the 6.0.1 update does not mean they were working on Nougat. They couldn't until the source code was released.
Wouldn't it make sense not to update an older phone until later to entice people to buy the latest and greatest device with the N update?
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I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.

aybarrap1 said:
There is some logic there and it is a theory used in the world of business. On the same token, my theory of updating the MXPE later is also a practice by businesses. Now it will just depend on what theory of business Lenovo decided to use.
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Oh well, i think you misunderstood me. I'm not saying that the Z will be upgraded after MXPE. I actually think once the Z will be available worldwide it will get the N update to boost sales. I'm only saying that it would be difficult to convince people to buy an expensive phone unless they have a guarantee it will be a long investment. Updating quickly the XPE should give that guarantee that even Z will be maintained after its one year anniversary.

skinnykinney said:
https://motog3.com/motorola-android-7-0-nougat-update/
Updated Sept 1st, not sure how reliable but says there we will be getting it!
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That motog3 site is just an pile of advertisements and SEO bait. It's not legit.
After dealing with Moto/Lenovo support a few times, my impression is that Lenovo is struggling to appear like they know what they're doing. Their repair program is musical chairs, tech support doesn't know what's going on, and they haven't been able to maintain the software. Even if they've outsourced Nougat, I doubt they've purchased any followup bug fixes.

I just saw that CM14 7.0 dropped for the Android One, Oneplus 3 and a few others today. That should help things along a bit. Once it exists, as it now does, it usually makes it's way to other devices pretty quickly. :fingers-crossed:

i want ask ... i don't know if my question is stupid or not LooL
if lenovo dont include our MOTO X phone to update list
can the Rom developer here make custom ROM with N Update? or they need something from lenovo (like permission or code) ?

Zekial said:
I would think that Google gives out the source code to large OEMs before they release it to the general public so some of the later Q3 devices can all run the new version. Also, Moto built their reputation on relatively quick software updates for their supported phones, and I don't think Lenovo would mess with that image too much as to not hurt current sales.
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But you should believe @Zekial When Moto, was a Google Company, and not official bought by lenovo, they update their smartphones very fast, Nexus 5 receive Lollipop after Moto X . Now Moto sucks, only this week in germany they update their phones to 6.0.1 (security update from may ).
Pure will be updated for N, when is the problem, could be this year or in the next.

Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html

dammit, and i just rooted my phone finally today.

AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
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I don't think that article tells us anything we don't already know. I read it yesterday and it just says "should" and "probably" with no sources.

AsquareX said:
Here's a bit of confirmed news
https://in.news.yahoo.com/android-7-0-nougat-schedule-160203008.html
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Just another fluff article... zero information, just speculation and opinion.

The "news" now on neurigedget... Hmm
not officially confirmed
http://neurogadget.net/2016/09/24/m...tedly-get-android-nougat-update-october/40315
Meanwhile, the Moto X Play, Moto X Style, and Moto X Force, will receive the update on November.
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Android 9 - not soon

First hello to everyone,
I was wondering if this time will be the same as it was with G6 so I asked support and they answerd this
I qoute
Good afternoon Alen,*
Thank you for your query regarding your LG G7;*
I have had a look into this for you and sadly as we are an in warranty repair centre this is not something that we get advance notice on. As LG handsets only got Android 8 a few months ago I am guessing that this would be at some point in the early quarter of next year.*
Once the android version is created it then has to go to the individual manufacturers who then test for compatibility and will rework anything which causes issues and then the testing on handsets begins and I am led to believe that this is a length process.*
The likely hood is that the update will be on the handsets before we even know that it has been released.*
So when it comes to update, even with "lg's new update center" thing will be the same.
And to be clear i don't hate or something, I am okey with my device preformances this is more discussion type post cuz as i remember lg said that this new center sill get us update faster and clearly thats not the case
Sorry for typos

There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.

xeizo said:
There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
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I could not agree more to this. Software upgrades are a nice thing if they take the time to run it stable. I prefer stable software and better security above that. Thats why i left Sony for one reason tru unstable releases that took long time to fix or not and a phone that loose hes full functuality with crashes or connection problems at most important times is a pain.Untill now my G6 did fine and my G7.Be patient and be happy your G7 is a trusty companion on the way.
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This is why Apple products are expensive and maintain their value. Long term Seamless updates across all devices, regions and carriers. Android OEMs need to stop modifying Android and just use stock software route. No one wants bloat and gimmick features at the expense of slow updates that may never come. They pretty much do this to market new devices and screw us.

xeizo said:
There is some hysteria on having the latest software, but in fact it is even better if the software actually works, hence the lenghty process of testing before release. Android Pie for instance is still very buggy for those vendors who are releasing early public test versions.
The current 10f-version of Android 8.0 seems pretty stable on the G7, and has minimum battery drain. As long as they are following up with regular security patches as they are released, there is nothing much to complain about. I'd rather take a problem free Android Pie early next year than be ridden with bugs up til then.
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The T-Mobile variant is on the July 1 security patch, as of the time of this post it is 84 days behind. Not looking good

Support rarely if ever gets any info about things like software releases up until they actually come out. Until LG actually makes a statement it is best to just be patient.

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The T-Mobile variant is on the July 1 security patch, as of the time of this post it is 84 days behind. Not looking good
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Even my G7+ (India Variant) is on june security patch. At least security updates have to be released if not OS updates. Every money transfer is don't online nowadays, LG should take it seriously. Also there is still no 4k 60 fps update that rest of the world got.

Android P on the G7? Don't hold your breath. At the earliest, I'd say March of 2019. More realistically is May/June however. LG is quite terrible with Android updates.

8bitbang said:
This is why Apple products are expensive and maintain their value. Long term Seamless updates across all devices, regions and carriers. Android OEMs need to stop modifying Android and just use stock software route. No one wants bloat and gimmick features at the expense of slow updates that may never come. They pretty much do this to market new devices and screw us.
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Seamless? Hardly. They have had numerous issues with updates.
Apple products are expensive because people are fan boys and will pay a lot of money for questionable tech. They don't even include fast chargers. They are seperate and very expensive.
This computer repairman who has worked on Apple products for years should be required viewing before buying Apple products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup

fernando sor said:
Seamless? Hardly. They have had numerous issues with updates.
Apple products are expensive because people are fan boys and will pay a lot of money for questionable tech. They don't even include fast chargers. They are seperate and very expensive.
This computer repairman who has worked on Apple products for years should be required viewing before buying Apple products.
https://www.youtube.com/user/rossmanngroup
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Pixel devices are the best representation of Android. They receive monthly updates, have no bloat and long term update support when compared to every other OEM. LG has always been behind updates and there's no excuse for that except they would rather sell you another device. We have let OEMs be ok with poor device support because we don't demand more. That's the definition of a fanboy, last time I checked we had to sue LG to get their **** done right
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...oop-lawsuit-settlement-g4-v10-v20-nexus-5x-g5
Google even attempted to help some Nexus 6p users migrate to the Google pixel and that didn't require a lawsuit to make it happen

8bitbang said:
Pixel devices are the best representation of Android. They receive monthly updates, have no bloat and long term update support when compared to every other OEM. LG has always been behind updates and there's no excuse for that except they would rather sell you another device. We have let OEMs be ok with poor device support because we don't demand more. That's the definition of a fanboy, last time I checked we had to sue LG to get their **** done right
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...oop-lawsuit-settlement-g4-v10-v20-nexus-5x-g5
Google even attempted to help some Nexus 6p users migrate to the Google pixel and that didn't require a lawsuit to make it happen
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Yeah unfortunately I was stuck with tmobile. I agree the pixel is the way to go.

The only issue I have with the Pixel is Google using it to push there cloud storage. That's why they won't put SD card slots on them. And I'm sorry but despite the fact it's 2018 we are still not a 100% connected world, not to mention at least in the US almost every carrier has data limits. Plus there are some that don't want to put everything they own up in the cloud. SD card storage is really the only reason I won't buy a Pixel.
And don't even mention USB-c adapters, I shouldn't have to carry around extra crap for more storage!
Void4ever

Apple have good products but not good for 1000 $ or more. They do update older models but we all know that they also made older phones go slower and there was problems with battery drain ect.
I am from Bosnia so here Iphones are really expensive and i mean it. Also Pixel is just a little bit cheaper.
I really like LG phones, after my HTC I had G4 G5 G6 and now G7. If I hadnt drop my G6 and brooke it I wouldnt even go to G7.
For the money you get good quality phone, nice specs and I dont mind ux cuz i am not fan of that rounded look on stock android.
I went and took Huawei p20 after my g6 and I had it for a day then returned it give more money and bought G7 cuz p20 is like toy compared to g7.
And even updates are not that big of a deal for me but what i mind is that they promised that big update center for faster updates and now not that we wont get android 9 for a while but as you guys said we are still on july patch.
I know that its better to wait for stable versions but they could be more efficiant with patches.
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sooner then u think
Take a look

J0SH1X said:
Take a look
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Man you have your phone number and the imei number visible in the screenshot. If I were you I would remove them.
And you're using a custom rom so that is not the official update.

LookedPath said:
Man you have your phone number and the imei number visible in the screenshot. If I were you I would remove them.
And you're using a custom rom so that is not the official update.
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thats obviously not my phone number , it somehow always fails to read it out and shows this number , no matter what sim card i put in the phone my real number ends on 59 , and woooahhh you got my imei and what r u gonna do with it i have the bill for the phone with imei my name etc so it gives you nothing

J0SH1X said:
thats obviously not my phone number , it somehow always fails to read it out and shows this number , no matter what sim card i put in the phone my real number ends on 59 , and woooahhh you got my imei and what r u gonna do with it i have the bill for the phone with imei my name etc so it gives you nothing
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If that's not your real phone number good for you. If you put your IMEI number on purpose and you know what the risks are, good for you. My message was to let you know in case you forgot about it.

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If that's not your real phone number good for you. If you put your IMEI number on purpose and you know what the risks are, good for you. My message was to let you know in case you forgot about it.
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thx buddy

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Take a look
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Hi, how did u installed this custom rom?

Anyway, official Android Pie looks to be way forward from now. LG V40 was just released, with Android 8.1 .....
On the bright side, for those with smart watches using Google Wear so was Wear OS 2.0 just released and it is entirely based on 8.0 Oreo. I suppose handsets with Android 8.0 will have a more bug free experience using those watches.

HTC , Android 9 pie update status (finally)

Hello guys ,
Eventually the date of the update was clear. Congratulations for HTC. I had hoped to get the Android Q update.
https://www.facebook.com/101063233083/posts/10159086719528084/
We want to share the release schedule of the Android Pie updates for #HTC smartphones. Please note, certain regions & carrier deployment may affect these dates. U11 rollout will begin late May, 2019; U11+ will begin late June, 2019; U12+ will begin mid-June, 2019. Thank you.

Electro58 said:
Hello guys ,
Yesterday on Facebook shared the post about the update status on HTC official page. But after 5 minutes they wiped. I copied this post.
We wanted to share with you the status on the Android 9 update.
HTC is currently working on ensuring the update is compatible with our phones and we anticipate a release to customers of U12+ and U11+ models starting Q2 of 2019.
Please note, the exact timing defers to the mobile operators' availabilities in different countries.
What do you think about this?
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Not really sure but the news today said that HTC is now negotiating with some companies in India for selling their brand. If so, it is no ground to post that message in the FB.
I do really hope my U11+ can get pie.

Only problem with that statement for UK anyway, the U11+ was only available from HTC direct. So mobile operators would have no input or changes to make. We've all been waiting long enough now they really should be releasing information.
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Back in February, we wrote about the disappearance of the HTC Mail app from the Play Store, but it was quickly restored. More recently, we received a tip about the Sense Home launcher also vanishing, but closer inspection shows that a total of 14 HTC apps have been unpublished in the last three months.
Looking at the latest HTC Corporation activity in App Brain, we can see that the Sense Home launcher and contacts app People were unpublished just this month. 12 more apps, including Calendar, Dot View, and Speak suffered a similar fate in February, while the Mail app that went and then returned is once again conspicuous by its absence.
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...the-play-store-including-calendar-and-people/
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What can we except form HTC? Are they dead? New skin? RIP HTC?

Potentially dead. The Pie update is very late now. They seem to be moving away from phones too. I have a feeling we may not get Pie as HTC concentrates it's resources else where. This is the first HTC phone I've been truly disappointed with and will certainly be my last. Already looking to one+ for my next phone.
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Reach out to HTC and ask them for the source code, easy to build a pie/q rom and even keep up community support long after.
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HTC don't pay me to do that though do they? If you bought a laptop and Asus or Apple chucked you a CD and said, you're getting no updates so there's the source code, fix any driver compatibility issues, flaws in the programming or security breaches yourself would you be happy with that?
I've paid them for a phone on the understanding I'd get HDR and Android updates. It took almost a year to fix the notification bug they created and they have pushed zero security patches other than those included with an update.
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HTC don't pay me to do that though do they? If you bought a laptop and Asus or Apple chucked you a CD and said, you're getting no updates so there's the source code, fix any driver compatibility issues, flaws in the programming or security breaches yourself would you be happy with that?
I've paid them for a phone on the understanding I'd get HDR and Android updates. It took almost a year to fix the notification bug they created and they have pushed zero security patches other than those included with an update.
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Yep, how truly i still hope it will get better honestly i am loosing my hopes i had. I've been using HTC phone even when they were creating phones under the name Qtek. Always stood by them and was always an enthusiastic supporter but i truly - with so much pain - believe it will only get worse in support. Although phones still rock this baby will almost certainly be my last HTC phone where presumably i too will be moving over towards OnePlus..
It is really sad but perhaps better, since I don't think any brand really can survive against the money Apple and Samsung are spending to buy customers.. i hope they will survive with VR..

I've been with HTC since the Touch HD so not as long as you. Back then they were innovators. The HD2 showed a phone could run two os and then we had the m7 with ultra pixel camera ( although the pink tint issue was a big problem) and the m8 led the way again with camera tech.
HTC promised updates within 90 days when they initially streamlined the amount of phones they were going to produce and now present day with no updates, finally a post stating there will be updates beginning Q2 and then nothing...
They can't completely blame it on carriers as the U11+ in Europe at least was a HTC direct phone. So where's the update? No where close is my guess. It seems they just string us along in the hope we get bored.
I don't agree that companies can't compete with apple and Samsung. There's plenty of smaller manufacturers doing a better job than HTC and in that sense HTC deserves everything it gets for failing it's customers.
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matty538 said:
I've been with HTC since the Touch HD so not as long as you. Back then they were innovators. The HD2 showed a phone could run two os and then we had the m7 with ultra pixel camera ( although the pink tint issue was a big problem) and the m8 led the way again with camera tech.
HTC promised updates within 90 days when they initially streamlined the amount of phones they were going to produce and now present day with no updates, finally a post stating there will be updates beginning Q2 and then nothing...
They can't completely blame it on carriers as the U11+ in Europe at least was a HTC direct phone. So where's the update? No where close is my guess. It seems they just string us along in the hope we get bored.
I don't agree that companies can't compete with apple and Samsung. There's plenty of smaller manufacturers doing a better job than HTC and in that sense HTC deserves everything it gets for failing it's customers.
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True, although it didn't succeed both Sony and LG where perhaps LG still has a position, but Sony left the battlefield quite quietly its a pitty and indeed was so much fun with the HD2 and M7. Both i still have and both still work where the HD2 is running MM. Had it even with Windows Phone 7 running.. ahh what the heck, OnePlus 7 pro looks great, so perhaps a worthy replacement.. presentation is 14th May apparently.

The only thing putting me off the oneplus 7 pro is the pop up selfie camera. Not sure how I feel about it. Other than that it seems a decent spec from the leaks we've had. Not long to wait though and with nothing forthcoming on the HTC update front looks like I may jump ship before it gets pushed. This has been by far the worst experience I've had with a phone provider and I can't recall ever wanting to get rid of a phone as quick as this one.
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I'd say that an absolute lack of any info - not a single leak - about their next phone is a pretty good indication that they're out of the smartphone business. And therefore lack of the update is also highly likely, though... even if they sold off their smartphone department the new owner might conduct it (if the code is already more or less created) for the sake of keeping the image.
Anyway, that's for 99% also my last - though only second... - HTC, even though that's a nearly perfect phone for me and I don't care much for updates (especially with those newer Androids that seem to differ less and less). Why then? Well, last time when I was that satisfied with a phone - with my previous One M7 - I kept using it for over 4 years, and would likely continue if it wasn't for the battery. Now I've had the U11+ for over 1 year - and I don't think there'll be any new HTCs in 2022. Sad, as I can't see a proper alternative right now, so I have to hope for something really new.

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Only problem with that statement for UK anyway, the U11+ was only available from HTC direct. So mobile operators would have no input or changes to make. We've all been waiting long enough now they really should be releasing information.
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Sadly HTC use mushroom communications at best these days

Sorry guys, HTC had been disappointing with support and updates. I have to ditch U11+.
Personally I think HTC had ditches us the loyal supported without providing any security patches since 2017. This make us all expose to all kind of vulnerability possible, too bad.
I am wishing those that still think that HTC has a chance coming back, good luck guys.

I don't think anyone is under any illusion as to what's going to happen. Android Q is already in beta testing for about 13 manufacturers and HTC can't even release Android Pie. Once I've found a new phone I like I will be jumping this sinking ship.
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Wait for "Late June"

Finally! The update will come. It would be nice if it actually comes from Android Q. Waiting for Pie to come after Q

Definitely won't come with Q, and a pretty poor show from HTC. Probably being the last to roll out Pie when they used to say updates within 90 days.
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Pie update in Taiwan, soft bricking some devices https://www.droid-life.com/2019/06/05/htc-pulls-pie-update-for-u11/

Brilliant HTC are far behind everyone else in releasing Pie and when they do release it, it screws up some phones. Very generous of HTC offering to fix phones borked my their own mistake. I mean really! That's the least they should be doing.
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EVR-L29 (international version) EMUI 11 stuck in 11.0.0.140

Hi,
Huawei keeps updating our Mate 20X, to our satisfaction I would say since it's just such a good phone...
Per some sites, Huawei released some weeks back Android May 2021 security update. And before March Security update...
Huawei Mate 20 devices (EMUI 11) starts getting May 2021 security update [Global]
Huawei is delivering a new software update for one of the popular smartphone lineups around the world, the Huawei Mate 20. This previous-gen flagship lineup has a separate fan base and satisfying its users with its camera and hardware performance. Due to its popularity and core configuration...
www.huaweicentral.com
The issue is that my phone seems to have stopped receiving OTA updates and I'm stuck on 11.0.0.140 which has January 2021 Security update.
I live in Portugal and I've reach out to Huawei here about this. Their feedback is that my phone is up-to-date, contrary to those articles.
Anyone else having this issue? If you've received recent OTA updates, can you please comment with the version and country where you live?
Thanks.

I called Huawei support today. They confirmed we will not be getting any more security patches beyond Jan 2021. This phone isn't even 3 years old yet. My wife's Oneplus 6 is bang up to date. The Mate 20X was the last Huawei I'll ever buy.

Yes, same feedback I got from Huawei in Portugal.
What's strange is that in some countries or perhaps just to the other Mate 20 models, Huawei is still releasing updates -- not considering the Mate 20X 5G which should still be in Huawei's monthly security update cycle.
Anyway, the page of the link above, shows what seems to be a Mate 20 (model ?), receiving EMUI 11.0.0.158 and a previous article from Huawei Central, shows one in Germany receiving update .150.
My interest here is mainly the Android security updates. Except from this, my phone is working fine...

as per usual, such updates are rolled out in vastly different time frames for different regions (china, asia, europe, global, middle east, etc.) and also phone types (i.e. the linked article ONLY mentions Mate 20 and Mate 20 Pro, but NOT the Mate 20 X). so no choice but to be patient and share info here whenever we have smth new
im on a chinese EVR-AL00 with Mar-2021 security patch, emui version 11.0.0.139.
edit: ok....LOL, so after posting this i got curious and checked update status in settings, nothing there. so i went into the my huawei app, selected china as region, went into the support section and updates, checked there: bam, update available to 11.0.0.155! changelog: nothing exciting, just improves system stability in certain situations. installed update (no change of security patch btw, still march), checked again in my huawei app aaaand: update available again! this time to harmony OS 2.0.0.165!
however, im not proceeding with that one, im skeptical of that half baked try by huawei to "fake" a new OS (fake because its still based on android 10, imagine that...) and rather stick to emui for now...
besides, im actually planning to roll back to emui 9 in a few months, unlock bootloader and try my luck with GSI roms to upgrade to android 11 or even 12 ^^ could be exciting if it works, havent found anyone yet trying it on a 20 x...

Actually, the experience with Harmony OS so far is excellent. Everything works just great, no problems with any app, excellent battery life...
Plus, the version 2.0.0.165 is on July 1st security patch...

This thread scared me into start looking to replace my Global 20X. A couple of days later I got 11.0.0.155 with July security patches, nice!

Mongroovy said:
This thread scared me into start looking to replace my Global 20X. A couple of days later I got 11.0.0.155 with July security patches, nice!
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Iwas looking around too, but still can't find anything to replace it with. If they can maintain this phone, i could happliy go another yea or two? 155 just dropped for me too. So far the screen sharing feature with Huawei laptops in broken, and battery life has taken a hit. How is battery for you?

EvzenP said:
Actually, the experience with Harmony OS so far is excellent. Everything works just great, no problems with any app, excellent battery life...
Plus, the version 2.0.0.165 is on July 1st security patch...
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How are you getting on with out Google apps? maybe you found a work around?

mwatson said:
Iwas looking around too, but still can't find anything to replace it with. If they can maintain this phone, i could happliy go another yea or two? 155 just dropped for me too. So far the screen sharing feature with Huawei laptops in broken, and battery life has taken a hit. How is battery for you?
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Haven't noticed worse battery life but I didn't really keep track of how many hours I got before. I never used the screen sharing feature.
The phone that I found that is somewhat close to the 20X is the Infinix Note 10 Pro NFC. I am a little tempted to get one of those from Aliexpress just to try it out and resell it if I decide to stay with my 20X

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Haven't noticed worse battery life but I didn't really keep track of how many hours I got before. I never used the screen sharing feature.
The phone that I found that is somewhat close to the 20X is the Infinix Note 10 Pro NFC. I am a little tempted to get one of those from Aliexpress just to try it out and resell it if I decide to stay with my 20X
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Looks ok? can't imagine you'd get many security updates. Prob better of with the 20X if thats important. As much as i dislike Samsung, the A52 5G can't be ignored at £409 The promise 3 years of Android upgrades and 4 years of security patches for just over £400!

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Haven't noticed worse battery life but I didn't really keep track of how many hours I got before. I never used the screen sharing feature.
The phone that I found that is somewhat close to the 20X is the Infinix Note 10 Pro NFC. I am a little tempted to get one of those from Aliexpress just to try it out and resell it if I decide to stay with my 20X
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just watched some vids on note 10 pro. Looks pretty good. worth a punt at that price!

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How are you getting on with out Google apps? maybe you found a work around?
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Mate 20 X was released BEFORE the embargo, so it has always had Google apps, and still has on Harmony OS...

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Mate 20 X was released BEFORE the embargo, so it has always had Google Apps, and still has on Harmony OS...
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ahh i didn't know it still had Google Apps. Would you recommend moving over to Harmony? Just re-read your post. you do recommend. How did you upgrade? Do you have China model?

Yes, after reading through the Russian forum on 4PDA carefully I deliberately bought the China version. It was very good decision.

Is there a way to get harmony os on EVR L29 GLOBAL VERSION MATE 20X