File this under "WTF Samsung."
https://news.samsung.com/us/galaxy-s9-s9plus-new-128gb-256gb-storage/
I waited and researched my options, before finally pulling the plug and settled with the unlocked 64GB SD version that's available in the US. I bouhgt my device on Apr 1st, didn't even realize that their window to initiate RMA is only 15 days.
Chatted with a live chat agent, and didn't offer any other way to help me to exchange to the larger storage options as I'm out of my 15 day window.
I want to see if anyone else has encountered this situation with Samsung direct...I've read in the past bout how terrible their customer service is, so not really putting much hope on this one.
Or open to any other suggestion as well.
TLR: Bought 64GB on Apr 1st from Samsung.com, now they announce the larger storage options but I'm out of the return period.
Your going to need to sell it, as much as I hated to say that.
But I am with you, I never really need 128G but if its available I always get it because it increases the resale value. Now that they got 128 / 256GB I am sure the resale of the current 64GB's just hit the floor.
Wow that's kind of messed up for those who actually buy these devices and have to recoup the costs when they upgrade later
One of the reasons I went with Exynos was for the 128. I'd almost consider selling it for the SD variant now just for the better radio support in the u.s.
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Your going to need to sell it, as much as I hated to say that.
But I am with you, I never really need 128G but if its available I always get it because it increases the resale value. Now that they got 128 / 256GB I am sure the resale of the current 64GB's just hit the floor.
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Unfortunately yeah. I even called the sales line, they won't budge at all. And they kept like..."you know you can also upgrade the storage through microsd to up to 400GB..." And I told them..yeah I could, but wouldn't you rather me spending that $195 on you instead?
Plus, these people have no clue on the speed difference between UFS 2.1 and microsd.
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Wow that's kind of messed up for those who actually buy these devices and have to recoup the costs when they upgrade later
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Yeah, I've seen a collective outrage around reddit and article comments, maybe if enough people send them some rage phone call they might do something about it.
sireniankyle said:
One of the reasons I went with Exynos was for the 128. I'd almost consider selling it for the SD variant now just for the better radio support in the u.s.
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you know this was the deciding point that made me go for the 64GB SD variant since I was reading about the poor signal quality and what not.
I originally was gonna go for the G9650 SD HK/Chinese version to get the larger storage.
baymon said:
you know this was the deciding point that made me go for the 64GB SD variant since I was reading about the poor signal quality and what not.
I originally was gonna go for the G9650 SD HK/Chinese version to get the larger storage.
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I'm using Cricket, and my signal strength is fine, but I can't help but feel like my data would be faster on a SD variant.
Is wanting a bigger storage option just solely for the higher resale value after? I would understand the outrage if there was no expandable storage but in this case there is expandable storage.
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Is wanting a bigger storage option just solely for the higher resale value after? I would understand the outrage if there was no expandable storage but in this case there is expandable storage.
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that's one of the reasons I purchased the G965F from CLOVE UK - it came with 128 GB and was available back when it was originally released.
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Is wanting a bigger storage option just solely for the higher resale value after? I would understand the outrage if there was no expandable storage but in this case there is expandable storage.
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That is true, but internal storage is lightning fast compared to external storage
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Is wanting a bigger storage option just solely for the higher resale value after? I would understand the outrage if there was no expandable storage but in this case there is expandable storage.
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nope, I just need bigger storage since I have a lot of apps and files even with my 200GB microsd. Constantly moving pics/videos to the Microsd gets real old real fast.
and as mentioned before, having UFS 2.1 speed is not the same with microSD. Especially if you're recording 4K videos, you need a U3 speed card for that. Even sandisk 400GB is only U1, god knows how much their new extreme U3 version card is gonna cost.
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Your going to need to sell it, as much as I hated to say that.
But I am with you, I never really need 128G but if its available I always get it because it increases the resale value. Now that they got 128 / 256GB I am sure the resale of the current 64GB's just hit the floor.
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Man, I was not even thinking about that part of it til you said it either.. That is crap.
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Is wanting a bigger storage option just solely for the higher resale value after? I would understand the outrage if there was no expandable storage but in this case there is expandable storage.
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For me, yes. The better speced the phone the better resale value. I keep my phones on average 2 or 3 months as a daily driver so maximizing my return is essential!
baymon said:
Unfortunately yeah. I even called the sales line, they won't budge at all. And they kept like..."you know you can also upgrade the storage through microsd to up to 400GB..." And I told them..yeah I could, but wouldn't you rather me spending that $195 on you instead?
Plus, these people have no clue on the speed difference between UFS 2.1 and microsd.
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If they had said that to me I would have pointed the irony in the statement...
So your telling me th einternal storage is not that big of a deal so I should use an SD card? Yet, its a big enough deal to you make a phone with larger capcity... Things that make you go hmmmmm...
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Plus, these people have no clue on the speed difference between UFS 2.1 and microsd.
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I read somewhere on XDA that not all devices are 2.1!TRUE STORY! If I can find it again I will post here but some are only UFS 2.0 depending on the EMMCS / DRAM MFG.
True Story!
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I read somewhere on XDA that not all devices are 2.1!TRUE STORY! If I can find it again I will post here but some are only UFS 2.0 depending on the EMMCS / DRAM MFG.
True Story!
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Strange, I just quoted myself...
Anyways... Yes, It appears this is the case for a few different devices including the Note 8 and the S8+ as well as I found some lesser known brands using this crap.
Does anyone know if the 256gb unlocked version will work on Sprint CDMA network?
Can't find any specs on it.
Thanks
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Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
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hXXp://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-x-torn-down-take-a-peek-inside/
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Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
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hXXp://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-x-torn-down-take-a-peek-inside/
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Good question
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Oh man, I'll be so pissed if that turns out to be the case. If so, why would they give the XL only 16GB when the Tegra edition has 32?
Maybe the difference in price between the S4 and T3 is the same as a 16GB mSD card and 32GB. There's always trade-offs to be made in hardware design. HTC probably wanted to keep the phone below a certain threshold regarding component cost.
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Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
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I was wondering the same thing the other day. I love almost everything I'm seeing about this phone but the 16GB (actually, only about 12GB usable) thing is really making me hesitant to buy it. Too bad the captions in the pictures aren't translated!
I don't see any microsd or microsd slot in any of those pics. Internal memory is usually a soldered chip on the board. Would be pretty difficult to swap those out.
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Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
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Actually, none of the Samsung phones ever used internal microSD cards. Samsung phones always use NAND chips (Captivate included).
In the past, HTC always use miroSD cards for internal storage. But it may have changed recently. Who knows.
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Internal memory is usually a soldered chip on the board. Would be pretty difficult to swap those out.
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Yes, and the solder joints are usually tiny on the chips. Very difficult to do by hand (if not almost impossible), with little room for error.
The words in simplified Chinese are simply describing how to take the phone apart. The original pictures are a part of a series of pictures teaching you how to take apart the phone and the text are things like "The camera is connected to the main circuit board, so be sure to be careful when disassembling." I went through all of the pictures on the original site and none of it mentions where data storage is.
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The words in simplified Chinese are simply describing how to take the phone apart. The original pictures are a part of a series of pictures teaching you how to take apart the phone and the text are things like "The camera is connected to the main circuit board, so be sure to be careful when disassembling." I went through all of the pictures on the original site and none of it mentions where data storage is.
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Thanks for taking time to review the pics and the translations.. Its a shame that HTC decided to skimp on the internal memory and provide no expandable options. Suspect att strategy involves increased dependence on cloud storage that would force users to increase data consumption... Chi ching!
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Since the at&t version only has 16 gb, does anyone have the ACTUAL real storage space? Does it end up being like 14.92 gigs or something? This phone looks really sweet, but I currently have about 12-13 gigs of music on my captivate and the 16gb could pose as a real annoyance.
It is a nand chip, so no hidden microsd slot.
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It is a nand chip, so no hidden microsd slot.
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Thanks for the confirmation DG.
On a different note, I have been following you since the captivate days. Love your work and am a big fan.
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JayFReaZy said:
Since the at&t version only has 16 gb, does anyone have the ACTUAL real storage space? Does it end up being like 14.92 gigs or something? This phone looks really sweet, but I currently have about 12-13 gigs of music on my captivate and the 16gb could pose as a real annoyance.
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9.93 usable, 2 for apps
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JayFReaZy said:
Since the at&t version only has 16 gb, does anyone have the ACTUAL real storage space? Does it end up being like 14.92 gigs or something? This phone looks really sweet, but I currently have about 12-13 gigs of music on my captivate and the 16gb could pose as a real annoyance.
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Google Music is probably the only realistic solution for you... Stream some music and pick and choose what to keep on your phone.
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Google Music is probably the only realistic solution for you... Stream some music and pick and choose what to keep on your phone.
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Would use data plan if not on wifi. Still if you are 3GB or more with att should be doable with moderate use
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sanumaj said:
Thanks for taking time to review the pics and the translations.. Its a shame that HTC decided to skimp on the internal memory and provide no expandable options. Suspect att strategy involves increased dependence on cloud storage that would force users to increase data consumption... Chi ching!
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WE HAVE A WINNER!!!! I completely bet this was ATT's decision.
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9.93 usable, 2 for apps
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Thanks for the info, but WOW is that a small amount of space. I have close to 5GB on just pictures and videos alone.
I was thinking about google music, however, I mostly listen to music while in the subway; which means no reception/wifi. I had my sights on getting this phone, I guess I may need more time to think about it. If HTC was able to put a slot for a microSIM, why not a micro SD as well? . But, like someone stated in an earlier post, I'm sure it is to force people to use the cloud, which uses data, and ultimately creates overages.
I've been waiting to see a teardown to see if replacing the nand would be possible. If it was that would make a huge market for broken International One-X boards. I can't judge by the pictures if it's possible. Usually on a teardown there's at least 20 pics.
As far as AT&T's plan and why they knocked us down to essentially 10 gigs..
You had one thing right when you said cloud dependency, but I think it goes much further than that. Think of the 23GB free Dropbox space they're giving us all, the Google Music they are all undoubtedly expecting us to use. It's the precursor to their future attempt to hold your data hostage! What are you going to do if you don't pay your bill and your service goes out? You can't access your dropbox on the go, you can't stream your music through Google Play. They know that nobody wants to actually fill that measly 10 gigs with music. It's an attempt to get you more motivated to pay your monthly bill, and to extend your contract for another two years once this one is up. It's funny how they give you 23 gigs on your dropbox for 2 years, the same as your contract length. Something tells me that extending your contract will get you another 2 years once it's up. It might look like simple marketing, but honestly it's quite shady of them.
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I've been waiting to see a teardown to see if replacing the nand would be possible. If it was that would make a huge market for broken International One-X boards. I can't judge by the pictures if it's possible. Usually on a teardown there's at least 20 pics.
As far as AT&T's plan and why they knocked us down to essentially 10 gigs..
You had one thing right when you said cloud dependency, but I think it goes much further than that. Think of the 23GB free Dropbox space they're giving us all, the Google Music they are all undoubtedly expecting us to use. It's the precursor to their future attempt to hold your data hostage! What are you going to do if you don't pay your bill and your service goes out? You can't access your dropbox on the go, you can't stream your music through Google Play. They know that nobody wants to actually fill that measly 10 gigs with music. It's an attempt to get you more motivated to pay your monthly bill, and to extend your contract for another two years once this one is up. It's funny how they give you 23 gigs on your dropbox for 2 years, the same as your contract length. Something tells me that extending your contract will get you another 2 years once it's up. It might look like simple marketing, but honestly it's quite shady of them.
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http://fashion.pconline.com.cn/mobile/1204/2754053.html
If you go to the original article, there are 21 picks but it's not that helpful. The article is in Chinese but pictures are pictures. Most of the words say things like "screw here", etc.
It should be noted that this is the international version of the HTC One X.
I have been torn about keeping the 16GB or getting the 32GB. I just don't know what to do. I have used a large amount of storage on the 16GB already and my 30 day return is up tomorrow. Any suggestions?
See the thread int eh android development section about Apps2SD that you can run without rooting or anythig. The author is TweakerL. Look it up.
Return for 32 imo. Unless your a pop the collar with your hat turned backwards kinda guy. Then keep the white.
I faced the same dilemma and decided to switch from 16gb to 32gb... If not it would have bothered me.
The only thing I miss is the White color...
I don't have the white one.
jeepers128 said:
I have been torn about keeping the 16GB or getting the 32GB. I just don't know what to do. I have used a large amount of storage on the 16GB already and my 30 day return is up tomorrow. Any suggestions?
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I have the 16 GB but I used this app to move my data folders to my 64GB microSD card. You can actually move any folders over, not just data folders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
I like the white color so this works out really well for me. This app effectively turned my White 16GB note into an 80GB note.
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I have the 16 GB but I used this app to move my data folders to my 64GB microSD card. You can actually move any folders over, not just data folders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
I like the white color so this works out really well for me. This app effectively turned my White 16GB note into an 80GB note.
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Can you confirm a 64gb card works? Sammy's website says up to 32gb cards can be used.
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Why would you pay loads of ectra money fo 16GB extra, when you can buy a 16GB uSD for a few pennies?
Szadzik said:
Why would you pay loads of ectra money fo 16GB extra, when you can buy a 16GB uSD for a few pennies?
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I don't view $50 as loads extra. Plus no matter how big your microsd card is you'll always have 16gb less with a 16 vs 32 model.
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Can you confirm a 64gb card works? Sammy's website says up to 32gb cards can be used.
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I have a 64GB card in there now and it detected as 59GB free. It's formatted FAT32.
I went right for the 32 gb because id second guess like yourself . Plus my a500 is 16 gb and runs out fast. So 32 + 64 gives me 86 gb of storage
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I have a 64GB card in there now and it detected as 59GB free. It's formatted FAT32.
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Nefariouss said:
I don't view $50 as loads extra. Plus no matter how big your microsd card is you'll always have 16gb less with a 16 vs 32 model.
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Availability of the 3G 32GB version is a problem too, at least in Europe. No 3G, no tablet for me personally.
I ordered (and have been using) the 16gb in white for 2-3 weeks, and just decided yesterday to order the 32gb in deep gray, instead. Although I try to store all of my media externally, I use up that space quickly. At the same time, I find it to be a PITA to swap things between internal and external, such as backups and ROMs. I don't mind paying $50 more for twice the memory, but I wouldn't have paid much more than that at all.
As for the color, while I like the white, I'm not fond of the silver/gray borders; I think it makes the device look kinda cheap, like a toy, though I do like that it resembles my Skyrocket. However, the border on the Skyrocket is not only a lot slimmer, it's chrome, which is much more appealing to me. I wish they had done something similar in this case.
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I have a 64GB card in there now and it detected as 59GB free. It's formatted FAT32.
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All 64GB cards show as 59GB. It happens with all storage devices. That's to do with the fact that you're never going to get the full amount that you get told you will, because a portion of that memory is actually being used by the storage device for information pertaining to its self.
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All 64GB cards show as 59GB. It happens with all storage devices. That's to do with the fact that you're never going to get the full amount that you get told you will, because a portion of that memory is actually being used by the storage device for information pertaining to its self.
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It shows as 59GB mainly because manufacturers give the storage sace in 1000s wile your tablet counts it in 1024s.
I looked at this for mine and decided to go for the 32 gb model since DRM protected movies cannot currently be moved to the SD card.
Google Play phone support guy advised that they have rec'd a lot of requests to enable this, so perhaps in the future it won't be an issue.
Because:
1. I can still pay $249 and renew my contract (Ughh contract)
2. The at&t developer edition and the google edition will only come with 16gb
3. The at&t developer edition and the google edition will be at least $650
4. The at&t 32gb version can now has cm10.1 or other custom roms
Are these good enough reasons?
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None of those reasons are good. You're just saving some upfront money by bending over. And you better hurry before the boot loader workaround is patched.
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SysAdmNj said:
Because:
1. I can still pay $249 and renew my contract (Ughh contract)
2. The at&t developer edition and the google edition will only come with 16gb
3. The at&t developer edition and the google edition will be at least $650
4. The at&t 32gb version can now has cm10.1 or other custom roms
Are these good enough reasons?
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I am happy with getting the 32GB.
1) Same price I paid and yes... ugh... contract!
2) I am hoping that we can change our phones to the Google edition (keyword: hoping)
3) The AT&T branded was pulled from the site, still speculation until official announcement
4) Rocking Slimbean, awesome!
I say get it, I am considering returning my 64GB external card to make up my difference. I have Horn and few other games installed and still have 17GB left. I stream all my music and videos, and sync what I want for offline mode if needed (hardly ever).
Another thing to consider is that the phone is able to support USB-OTG. Since my Nexus 7 cannot have external, I am already use to that and carrying a 64GB flash drive.
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None of those reasons are good. You're just saving some upfront money by bending over. And you better hurry before the boot loader workaround is patched.
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Thats true, I just rather save my money and spend it on the next official nexus then some "google" branded sgs4. And yes I better make up my mind quick.
nakedninja42 said:
I am happy with getting the 32GB.
1) Same price I paid and yes... ugh... contract!
2) I am hoping that we can change our phones to the Google edition (keyword: hoping)
3) The AT&T branded was pulled from the site, still speculation until official announcement
4) Rocking Slimbean, awesome!
I say get it, I am considering returning my 64GB external card to make up my difference. I have Horn and few other games installed and still have 17GB left. I stream all my music and videos, and sync what I want for offline mode if needed (hardly ever).
Another thing to consider is that the phone is able to support USB-OTG. Since my Nexus 7 cannot have external, I am already use to that and carrying a 64GB flash drive.
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What do you mean by changing our phones to the google edition?
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What do you mean by changing our phones to the google edition?
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I am hoping that we can some how flash the package used for the Google edition which ultimately would allow me to bypass carrier and manufacture for updates... again... hoping.
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I am hoping that we can some how flash the package used for the Google edition which ultimately would allow me to bypass carrier and manufacture for updates... again... hoping.
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Im not sure how google updates its devices like the nexus, i'm sure its looking at the devices imei or serial number to make sure its their device?
Has this been done before where you're basically fooling google into thinking your carrier phone is from their playstore to receive ota's?
for those needing the extra gb for apps, a much simpler,easier and a less expensive route would be to use ur microsd card to mount and install games on. foldermount is very good and it saved me about 49+35(32gb version and restocking fee, foldermount costs $.99), minus the cost of the microsd of course, which i already had. it will save you the hassle of exchanging, reactivating, paying a restocking fee etc.
sameer1807 said:
for those needing the extra gb for apps, a much simpler,easier and a less expensive route would be to use ur microsd card to mount and install games on. foldermount is very good and it saved me about 49+35(32gb version and restocking fee, foldermount costs $.99), minus the cost of the microsd of course, which i already had. it will save you the hassle of exchanging, reactivating, paying a restocking fee etc.
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Until your micro SD craps out...which happens all the time for a lot of people. Of course you could just get another and put the games back on it, but there is no guarantee it won't happen again. It is a nice option for people that don't have a choice, but if given a choice, extra internal SD space will always be better than external SD space. Especially for fast pace games or if user data from the game is also stored on the external SD. But, like I said, it is nice that people have the choice.
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Until your micro SD craps out...which happens all the time for a lot of people. Of course you could just get another and put the games back on it, but there is no guarantee it won't happen again. It is a nice option for people that don't have a choice, but if given a choice, extra internal SD space will always be better than external SD space. Especially for fast pace games or if user data from the game is also stored on the external SD. But, like I said, it is nice that people have the choice.
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Pay for a good Micro SD card. My Samsung 64GB MicroSD has faster 4K write speeds than the S4 internal memory. I would rather the games run off it lol.
poofyhairguy said:
Pay for a good Micro SD card. My Samsung 64GB MicroSD has faster 4K write speeds than the S4 internal memory. I would rather the games run off it lol.
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What you might not understand is what matter is the random access speeds and read speeds but mostly random access ones.
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Pay for a good Micro SD card. My Samsung 64GB MicroSD has faster 4K write speeds than the S4 internal memory. I would rather the games run off it lol.
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I'm not saying it's a bad idea, and I'm glad it works great for you, but "good" microSD card is completely subjective. All you have to do is read through any of the S4, S3, etc... forums and you will see that randomly, people have trouble with any SD cards. It's basically a crap shoot. You can't say because your personal experience (1 person) with particular SD card has been positive that many others negative experiences with the same type and brand of SD card shouldn't be considered when deciding if this is the right way to go with the phone's memory. Of course I realize that others have had positive experiences with the same SD card as well, but that is my point, it is completely random. So overall, I would definitely trust the phones internal memory over any SD card.
The S4 has like a solid state inside of it, I've tested the speeds its fast internal memory.
I have a Class10 Ultra micro SD and it's not nearly as quick.
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You can't say because your personal experience (1 person) with particular SD card has been positive that many others negative experiences with the same type and brand of SD card shouldn't be considered when deciding if this is the right way to go with the phone's memory.
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Please find me some bad experience someone has had with my card. Its the Class 10 Samsung 64GB Card. Everything I have seen from trusted sources is rosey.
I get where you are coming from. I have a bunch of SD cards, and some so-called elite cards I bought from brands like Sandisk, Patriot, Lexar, and Transcend that all crapped out on me or gave me terrible 4K speeds.
But my 32GB Class 6 Samsung card is like a rock, and reviews online from confirmed knowledgeable sources bear out my experience as well. My Class 10 64GB card has been great as well, and its generally regarded as the best card you can buy.
The truism that Micro SD cards are unreliable should be buried with these new Samsung cards. Armed with better fabrication processes, they are putting a quality product out there we simply couldn't buy before. They are not just giving us the MicroSD slot, they are making good cards to put in there.
Now I wouldn't trust a non-Samsung card, but the prices are coming down on real Samsung cards.
Sandisk or Samsung for reliability. Transcend is OK. Kingston or patriot us a crap shoot. Lexar are fast but I haven't used their card enough to give an opinion.
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poofyhairguy said:
Please find me some bad experience someone has had with my card. Its the Class 10 Samsung 64GB Card. Everything I have seen from trusted sources is rosey.
I get where you are coming from. I have a bunch of SD cards, and some so-called elite cards I bought from brands like Sandisk, Patriot, Lexar, and Transcend that all crapped out on me or gave me terrible 4K speeds.
But my 32GB Class 6 Samsung card is like a rock, and reviews online from confirmed knowledgeable sources bear out my experience as well. My Class 10 64GB card has been great as well, and its generally regarded as the best card you can buy.
The truism that Micro SD cards are unreliable should be buried with these new Samsung cards. Armed with better fabrication processes, they are putting a quality product out there we simply couldn't buy before. They are not just giving us the MicroSD slot, they are making good cards to put in there.
Now I wouldn't trust a non-Samsung card, but the prices are coming down on real Samsung cards.
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It's great that "your" SD card works great on "your" phone, but understand that is just "your" experience. It doesn't matter the name of the card. Some swear by Sandisk because they have had great experiences with them. Does that mean that your less-than-great experience with them didn't matter? Do you think everybody gets terrible 4K speeds that use Lexar just because you did? I use a Samsung 32GB class 10 card. So far it is working good (knock on wood), but I'm not going to say that because it works good for me that it works good for everybody. That's ridiculous. Your experience and my experience doesn't count for any more or less than the next person's experience. The fact is, the removable SD media, at this point in time, is definitely more volatile and less reliable than internal memory.
I think Samsung makes great cards, but I will never trust it as much as I trust the phones internal memory. And honestly, I really don't even trust it. I make sure to back up all important data, pictures, videos, etc... in at least two other places.
The way I see it is use what works for you. The same thing might work for some, but for others an external SD card just won't take the place of more internal memory.
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It's great that "your" SD card works great on "your" phone, but understand that is just "your" experience. It doesn't matter the name of the card. Some swear by Sandisk because they have had great experiences with them. Does that mean that your less-than-great experience with them didn't matter? Do you think everybody gets terrible 4K speeds that use Lexar just because you did? I use a Samsung 32GB class 10 card. So far it is working good (knock on wood), but I'm not going to say that because it works good for me that it works good for everybody. That's ridiculous. Your experience and my experience doesn't count for any more or less than the next person's experience. The fact is, the removable SD media, at this point in time, is definitely more volatile and less reliable than internal memory.
I think Samsung makes great cards, but I will never trust it as much as I trust the phones internal memory. And honestly, I really don't even trust it. I make sure to back up all important data, pictures, videos, etc... in at least two other places.
The way I see it is use what works for you. The same thing might work for some, but for others an external SD card just won't take the place of more internal memory.
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Not raining on your opinion, but I think of SD cards as expanding internal memory and temporary backup. And the upcoming Google gs4 it will partially become backup getting to test aaaaaand carry around roms more often. Haven't been able to seriously do that since the nexus one. But yeah anything important shod be shot up into the cloud. The extra storage is just gravy and shouldn't be critical.
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Until your micro SD craps out...which happens all the time for a lot of people. Of course you could just get another and put the games back on it, but there is no guarantee it won't happen again. It is a nice option for people that don't have a choice, but if given a choice, extra internal SD space will always be better than external SD space. Especially for fast pace games or if user data from the game is also stored on the external SD. But, like I said, it is nice that people have the choice.
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you should make regular back ups of your sdcard and none cloud files on internal
Get the 32.I did and I love it
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@rbiter said:
None of those reasons are good. You're just saving some upfront money by bending over. And you better hurry before the boot loader workaround is patched.
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Serious question. What's the difference in money between buying a phone on contract and bending over, and buying a phone outright and then do you pay month to month? I've only ever bought phones on contract so I have no clue.
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Serious question. What's the difference in money between buying a phone on contract and bending over, and buying a phone outright and then do you pay month to month? I've only ever bought phones on contract so I have no clue.
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They say the non contract or prepaid are much less expensive. Most people I know on ATT or Verizon get some type of corporate discount. I pay $70 a month total and my wife who is on t mobile pays more than that I believe. I have the old unlimited plan as well.
If you are staying with a contract company like ATT why not use the subsidy? I have been with att since 1997 and do not see myself leaving, the network is excellent where I live. I got my 32GB S4 for $270 out the door. Pre paid and no contract might be great for some but I do not mind paying for a premium network. Not going to get an S4 or HTC One for the price of a Nexus 4...and is all honesty I have not even thought of reaching for my Nexus 4 since May 13, the day my S4 was delivered!
http://www.picstop.co.uk/sandisk-ultra-micro-sdxc-card-class-10-128gb
Lol that price, when it will be around 80 I'll buy it
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Well they didn't make it cheap that is for sure. Cost's 100 quid less than the phone itself.
Now thats one stupid price.
Says it all right under the "Notify Me" button:
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Says it all right under the "Notify Me" button:
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I thought Sandisk said they were about 18 months from perfecting it..... must have found a shortcut :laugh:
Anyway, stupid price but very welcomed. I have a 64Gb and it's completely full, I need a 128Gb for my phone......
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http://www.picstop.co.uk/sandisk-ultra-micro-sdxc-card-class-10-128gb?source=awin
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To much mate!
That price is for the ultra rich or crazy stupid crowd. I get that its no small feat to get 128GB into that form factor but wow, twice the storage at 10 times the price.
Cheaper to just carry an additional 64GB in your wallet...
People, it isn't really that price. It's just a placeholder, they set an extortionate price so they can have it in place without the risk of anyone actually being dumb enough to buy it.
dickson123 said:
People, it isn't really that price. It's just a placeholder, they set an extortionate price so they can have it in place without the risk of anyone actually being dumb enough to buy it.
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lets fck wit them. everyone buy 10 right now...
entwicklun said:
lets fck wit them. everyone buy 10 right now...
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If everybody bought ten, they would figure out a way to make it available now...lol
Would this be compatible with our Note 3 whenever the card is out that is. Agreed that's just insane price.
xuggs said:
Would this be compatible with our Note 3 whenever the card is out that is. Agreed that's just insane price.
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Reckon it would. SDXC standard allows up to 2TB if I remember right
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People, it isn't really that price. It's just a placeholder, they set an extortionate price so they can have it in place without the risk of anyone actually being dumb enough to buy it.
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I'm glad someone else pointed this out before I have to. Anyway, it's probably not just so that nobody is stupid enough to order it, but also so they can list it and PERHAPS get the odd preorder in from someone with too much money on their hands and be sure they make a profit.
It's quite a common thing for shops to do, though occasionally the "preorder" price is too low - I remember preordering Rock Band (the full band set) for £60 a few years ago!
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Reckon it would. SDXC standard allows up to 2TB if I remember right
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sorry bro...note 3 support max 64G
cfchong said:
sorry bro...note 3 support max 64G
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I don't think that's true.... note 2 said 32gb max. and we all using 64gb. they just say what they know and have tested. I'm sure 128gb will work fine
cfchong said:
sorry bro...note 3 support max 64G
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sorry to dissapoint you but i had seen someone from xda forum using his note 2 with 256gb sdcard. what u need is bulky back casing. .so, if note 2 capable of using 256gb, note 3 for sure more than capable. go here to see with ur own eyes. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239413
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sorry to dissapoint you but i had seen someone from xda forum using his note 2 with 256gb sdcard. what u need is bulky back casing. .so, if note 2 capable of using 256gb, note 3 for sure more than capable. go here to see with ur own eyes. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2239413
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i am aware of this but this is modified. not out of the box.
i too will be glad if it can support the 128.
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I don't think that's true.... note 2 said 32gb max. and we all using 64gb. they just say what they know and have tested. I'm sure 128gb will work fine
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if my memory serves me, note 2 quoted specs then was max 64gb sdcard.
the high end mobiles were already supporting 64 gb sdcard when note 2 came out.
i have my 64 sdcard for 2 years now.
well, as mentioned in my other reply, I too will be glad if note 3 can support 128.
Lol the price. not for me. i've (2 X) SANDISK Micro SDXC Ultra 64 Go. 46€ each.
Now that CM allows my S5 to use the SD as internal storage I need a bigger one. I want a fast one within the bounds of this phone so I'm not paying for tech I cannot use. I listen to music and store some pictures but a lot of that is cloud based. Thanks!
This Sandisk 64GB sd card is pretty fast. for ~$20, cant go wrong.
There's a 200gb on Amazon for 79
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This Sandisk 64GB sd card is pretty fast. for ~$20, cant go wrong.
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Ah thats the fella I have in mine.
If you need insane amounts of storage, you really CANNOT go wrong with a Samsung one:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Clas...id=1469114722&sr=1-1&keywords=Samsung+sd+card
I agree with Lightning here, the Samsung EVO is the best bang for the buck. This is what I have in my phone:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00P3NMVVU/
Works flawlessly.
If you want something faster (for say shooting HD video), there is the EVO+ and the EVO Select as well:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0118LR9Z8
https://www.amazon.com//dp/B01DOB6YW4
dont get the 200 gb one as the phone is limited to 128 and wont be able to use 1/3rd of it. I use a class U1 PNY 128 gb card and its pretty snappy. I got it for $35 on amazon during the last cyber monday event, but they might even be cheaper now. Id just read the reviews on amazon for 128 gb cards. There are many people who buy them just to test them and theyll list their real world results in a transfer speed rating
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dont get the 200 gb one as the phone is limited to 128 and wont be able to use 1/3rd of it. I use a class U1 PNY 128 gb card and its pretty snappy. I got it for $35 on amazon during the last cyber monday event, but they might even be cheaper now. Id just read the reviews on amazon for 128 gb cards. There are many people who buy them just to test them and theyll list their real world results in a transfer speed rating
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I presume you mean 256 or whatever it is. I've the 64 gig one. Seems grand. I'm only new back on android after a few years on iPhone. 64 is plenty for me . 128 would be cool just to show off. We don't have cyber sales here in Ireland that I know of.
No. The 200 gig card is what I was referring to. What I said also applies to a 256 or anything above 128 really as the phone cannot read anything higher than 128. Yes, 200 gb is a strange storage size for a SD card, but a 200 GB card does exist
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https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A/dp/
Personally recommended class 10 UHS-3
as the phone cannot read anything higher than 128.
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Are you absolutely sure about that? Even a S3 can read a 256GB card
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as the phone cannot read anything higher than 128.
Are you absolutely sure about that? Even a S3 can read a 256GB card
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Have you personally confirmed this? I ask because the answer I gave was based on Samsung's own hardware limitations listed in the phones specs
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Have you personally confirmed this? I ask because the answer I gave was based on Samsung's own hardware limitations listed in the phones specs
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i think this limitations is because there was no more than 128 GB at the time of it's release but in theory it can handle up to 2 TB
even though there is no 2 TB micro SD Card yet, since it supports SDXC
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i think this limitations is because there was no more than 128 GB at the time of it's release but in theory it can handle up to 2 TB
even though there is no 2 TB micro SD Card yet, since it supports SDXC
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If that is the case then HUZZAH!!!!
sonybansi said:
Personally recommended class 10 UHS-3
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I understand why! Sadly they are not available in my country yet, so I bought a 32GB Samsung EVO+ Class 10 UHS-1, and now I don't get the "your SD card is slow" when formatting as adoptable, which I got with a class 10.
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Have you personally confirmed this? I ask because the answer I gave was based on Samsung's own hardware limitations listed in the phones specs
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Samsung said that the S2 couldn't take any more than 32GB yet in fact it supported 64GB. So, it doesn't mean much what they say.
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Samsung said that the S2 couldn't take any more than 32GB yet in fact it supported 64GB. So, it doesn't mean much what they say.
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That's a fair point, but I just haven't seen anyone confirm the over 128 GB cards working and I'd hate for a guy to buy one and it only recognize 128 because they're stupid 'spensive!!
can confirm that the S5 has no issues with a 200GB microsd....SDXC class 10....although after formatting, only 186GB available.....
Not sure if anyone has done it yet, but I just pounced on and ebay auction for a 256gb evo+. If there is any intrest in a definitive answer to whether it is compatible or not, I will post back in about a week when I get it. As mentioned above, it should work being sdxc. Wish me luck!