Because:
1. I can still pay $249 and renew my contract (Ughh contract)
2. The at&t developer edition and the google edition will only come with 16gb
3. The at&t developer edition and the google edition will be at least $650
4. The at&t 32gb version can now has cm10.1 or other custom roms
Are these good enough reasons?
Appreciate input
None of those reasons are good. You're just saving some upfront money by bending over. And you better hurry before the boot loader workaround is patched.
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SysAdmNj said:
Because:
1. I can still pay $249 and renew my contract (Ughh contract)
2. The at&t developer edition and the google edition will only come with 16gb
3. The at&t developer edition and the google edition will be at least $650
4. The at&t 32gb version can now has cm10.1 or other custom roms
Are these good enough reasons?
Appreciate input
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I am happy with getting the 32GB.
1) Same price I paid and yes... ugh... contract!
2) I am hoping that we can change our phones to the Google edition (keyword: hoping)
3) The AT&T branded was pulled from the site, still speculation until official announcement
4) Rocking Slimbean, awesome!
I say get it, I am considering returning my 64GB external card to make up my difference. I have Horn and few other games installed and still have 17GB left. I stream all my music and videos, and sync what I want for offline mode if needed (hardly ever).
Another thing to consider is that the phone is able to support USB-OTG. Since my Nexus 7 cannot have external, I am already use to that and carrying a 64GB flash drive.
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None of those reasons are good. You're just saving some upfront money by bending over. And you better hurry before the boot loader workaround is patched.
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Thats true, I just rather save my money and spend it on the next official nexus then some "google" branded sgs4. And yes I better make up my mind quick.
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I am happy with getting the 32GB.
1) Same price I paid and yes... ugh... contract!
2) I am hoping that we can change our phones to the Google edition (keyword: hoping)
3) The AT&T branded was pulled from the site, still speculation until official announcement
4) Rocking Slimbean, awesome!
I say get it, I am considering returning my 64GB external card to make up my difference. I have Horn and few other games installed and still have 17GB left. I stream all my music and videos, and sync what I want for offline mode if needed (hardly ever).
Another thing to consider is that the phone is able to support USB-OTG. Since my Nexus 7 cannot have external, I am already use to that and carrying a 64GB flash drive.
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What do you mean by changing our phones to the google edition?
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What do you mean by changing our phones to the google edition?
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I am hoping that we can some how flash the package used for the Google edition which ultimately would allow me to bypass carrier and manufacture for updates... again... hoping.
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I am hoping that we can some how flash the package used for the Google edition which ultimately would allow me to bypass carrier and manufacture for updates... again... hoping.
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Im not sure how google updates its devices like the nexus, i'm sure its looking at the devices imei or serial number to make sure its their device?
Has this been done before where you're basically fooling google into thinking your carrier phone is from their playstore to receive ota's?
for those needing the extra gb for apps, a much simpler,easier and a less expensive route would be to use ur microsd card to mount and install games on. foldermount is very good and it saved me about 49+35(32gb version and restocking fee, foldermount costs $.99), minus the cost of the microsd of course, which i already had. it will save you the hassle of exchanging, reactivating, paying a restocking fee etc.
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for those needing the extra gb for apps, a much simpler,easier and a less expensive route would be to use ur microsd card to mount and install games on. foldermount is very good and it saved me about 49+35(32gb version and restocking fee, foldermount costs $.99), minus the cost of the microsd of course, which i already had. it will save you the hassle of exchanging, reactivating, paying a restocking fee etc.
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Until your micro SD craps out...which happens all the time for a lot of people. Of course you could just get another and put the games back on it, but there is no guarantee it won't happen again. It is a nice option for people that don't have a choice, but if given a choice, extra internal SD space will always be better than external SD space. Especially for fast pace games or if user data from the game is also stored on the external SD. But, like I said, it is nice that people have the choice.
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Until your micro SD craps out...which happens all the time for a lot of people. Of course you could just get another and put the games back on it, but there is no guarantee it won't happen again. It is a nice option for people that don't have a choice, but if given a choice, extra internal SD space will always be better than external SD space. Especially for fast pace games or if user data from the game is also stored on the external SD. But, like I said, it is nice that people have the choice.
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Pay for a good Micro SD card. My Samsung 64GB MicroSD has faster 4K write speeds than the S4 internal memory. I would rather the games run off it lol.
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Pay for a good Micro SD card. My Samsung 64GB MicroSD has faster 4K write speeds than the S4 internal memory. I would rather the games run off it lol.
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What you might not understand is what matter is the random access speeds and read speeds but mostly random access ones.
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Pay for a good Micro SD card. My Samsung 64GB MicroSD has faster 4K write speeds than the S4 internal memory. I would rather the games run off it lol.
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I'm not saying it's a bad idea, and I'm glad it works great for you, but "good" microSD card is completely subjective. All you have to do is read through any of the S4, S3, etc... forums and you will see that randomly, people have trouble with any SD cards. It's basically a crap shoot. You can't say because your personal experience (1 person) with particular SD card has been positive that many others negative experiences with the same type and brand of SD card shouldn't be considered when deciding if this is the right way to go with the phone's memory. Of course I realize that others have had positive experiences with the same SD card as well, but that is my point, it is completely random. So overall, I would definitely trust the phones internal memory over any SD card.
The S4 has like a solid state inside of it, I've tested the speeds its fast internal memory.
I have a Class10 Ultra micro SD and it's not nearly as quick.
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You can't say because your personal experience (1 person) with particular SD card has been positive that many others negative experiences with the same type and brand of SD card shouldn't be considered when deciding if this is the right way to go with the phone's memory.
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Please find me some bad experience someone has had with my card. Its the Class 10 Samsung 64GB Card. Everything I have seen from trusted sources is rosey.
I get where you are coming from. I have a bunch of SD cards, and some so-called elite cards I bought from brands like Sandisk, Patriot, Lexar, and Transcend that all crapped out on me or gave me terrible 4K speeds.
But my 32GB Class 6 Samsung card is like a rock, and reviews online from confirmed knowledgeable sources bear out my experience as well. My Class 10 64GB card has been great as well, and its generally regarded as the best card you can buy.
The truism that Micro SD cards are unreliable should be buried with these new Samsung cards. Armed with better fabrication processes, they are putting a quality product out there we simply couldn't buy before. They are not just giving us the MicroSD slot, they are making good cards to put in there.
Now I wouldn't trust a non-Samsung card, but the prices are coming down on real Samsung cards.
Sandisk or Samsung for reliability. Transcend is OK. Kingston or patriot us a crap shoot. Lexar are fast but I haven't used their card enough to give an opinion.
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poofyhairguy said:
Please find me some bad experience someone has had with my card. Its the Class 10 Samsung 64GB Card. Everything I have seen from trusted sources is rosey.
I get where you are coming from. I have a bunch of SD cards, and some so-called elite cards I bought from brands like Sandisk, Patriot, Lexar, and Transcend that all crapped out on me or gave me terrible 4K speeds.
But my 32GB Class 6 Samsung card is like a rock, and reviews online from confirmed knowledgeable sources bear out my experience as well. My Class 10 64GB card has been great as well, and its generally regarded as the best card you can buy.
The truism that Micro SD cards are unreliable should be buried with these new Samsung cards. Armed with better fabrication processes, they are putting a quality product out there we simply couldn't buy before. They are not just giving us the MicroSD slot, they are making good cards to put in there.
Now I wouldn't trust a non-Samsung card, but the prices are coming down on real Samsung cards.
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It's great that "your" SD card works great on "your" phone, but understand that is just "your" experience. It doesn't matter the name of the card. Some swear by Sandisk because they have had great experiences with them. Does that mean that your less-than-great experience with them didn't matter? Do you think everybody gets terrible 4K speeds that use Lexar just because you did? I use a Samsung 32GB class 10 card. So far it is working good (knock on wood), but I'm not going to say that because it works good for me that it works good for everybody. That's ridiculous. Your experience and my experience doesn't count for any more or less than the next person's experience. The fact is, the removable SD media, at this point in time, is definitely more volatile and less reliable than internal memory.
I think Samsung makes great cards, but I will never trust it as much as I trust the phones internal memory. And honestly, I really don't even trust it. I make sure to back up all important data, pictures, videos, etc... in at least two other places.
The way I see it is use what works for you. The same thing might work for some, but for others an external SD card just won't take the place of more internal memory.
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It's great that "your" SD card works great on "your" phone, but understand that is just "your" experience. It doesn't matter the name of the card. Some swear by Sandisk because they have had great experiences with them. Does that mean that your less-than-great experience with them didn't matter? Do you think everybody gets terrible 4K speeds that use Lexar just because you did? I use a Samsung 32GB class 10 card. So far it is working good (knock on wood), but I'm not going to say that because it works good for me that it works good for everybody. That's ridiculous. Your experience and my experience doesn't count for any more or less than the next person's experience. The fact is, the removable SD media, at this point in time, is definitely more volatile and less reliable than internal memory.
I think Samsung makes great cards, but I will never trust it as much as I trust the phones internal memory. And honestly, I really don't even trust it. I make sure to back up all important data, pictures, videos, etc... in at least two other places.
The way I see it is use what works for you. The same thing might work for some, but for others an external SD card just won't take the place of more internal memory.
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Not raining on your opinion, but I think of SD cards as expanding internal memory and temporary backup. And the upcoming Google gs4 it will partially become backup getting to test aaaaaand carry around roms more often. Haven't been able to seriously do that since the nexus one. But yeah anything important shod be shot up into the cloud. The extra storage is just gravy and shouldn't be critical.
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Until your micro SD craps out...which happens all the time for a lot of people. Of course you could just get another and put the games back on it, but there is no guarantee it won't happen again. It is a nice option for people that don't have a choice, but if given a choice, extra internal SD space will always be better than external SD space. Especially for fast pace games or if user data from the game is also stored on the external SD. But, like I said, it is nice that people have the choice.
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you should make regular back ups of your sdcard and none cloud files on internal
Get the 32.I did and I love it
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None of those reasons are good. You're just saving some upfront money by bending over. And you better hurry before the boot loader workaround is patched.
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Serious question. What's the difference in money between buying a phone on contract and bending over, and buying a phone outright and then do you pay month to month? I've only ever bought phones on contract so I have no clue.
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plwalsh88 said:
Serious question. What's the difference in money between buying a phone on contract and bending over, and buying a phone outright and then do you pay month to month? I've only ever bought phones on contract so I have no clue.
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They say the non contract or prepaid are much less expensive. Most people I know on ATT or Verizon get some type of corporate discount. I pay $70 a month total and my wife who is on t mobile pays more than that I believe. I have the old unlimited plan as well.
If you are staying with a contract company like ATT why not use the subsidy? I have been with att since 1997 and do not see myself leaving, the network is excellent where I live. I got my 32GB S4 for $270 out the door. Pre paid and no contract might be great for some but I do not mind paying for a premium network. Not going to get an S4 or HTC One for the price of a Nexus 4...and is all honesty I have not even thought of reaching for my Nexus 4 since May 13, the day my S4 was delivered!
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Just bought it via Newegg it will come in about week.
Will post results. Stay tuned.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211519
Isnt the max read speed of our phones class 6?
Darkshneider said:
Isnt the max read speed of our phones class 6?
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Not sure but it doesnt hurt does it?
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Meh... it kind of does, but doesnt. GG.
I use a class 4 and a class 6 and honestly didnt see much difference
My stock one is starting to give out on me. Titanium Backup is starting to fail
bighuta said:
My stock one is starting to give out on me. Titanium Backup is starting to fail
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Copy all important data/pics/backups to a computer! Once SD memory goes, its gone for good mostly.
I'm way too paranoid about flash memory failure to spend more than 50ish on a microSD card.
Last time my 16GB SD card crapped out on me, and I lost lots of pictures and videos from a trip.
As far as 16GB class 10, it could be nice depending on the price....
NeonMonster said:
Copy all important data/pics/backups to a computer! Once SD memory goes, its gone for good mostly.
I'm way too paranoid about flash memory failure to spend more than 50ish on a microSD card.
Last time my 16GB SD card crapped out on me, and I lost lots of pictures and videos from a trip.
As far as 16GB class 10, it could be nice depending on the price....
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I back mine up every week. Its 32 I believe
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Got it today and its legit. Great buy
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bighuta said:
Got it today and its legit. Great buy
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Ordered, thanks.
Class is just the minimum the data transfer's are rated to run at, not the maximum that the actual card can run. So my Class 2 could run at Class 6 speeds, but not garaunteed to do so.
Thanks for the great link though, gonna grab one!
heathmcabee said:
Class is just the minimum the data transfer's are rated to run at, not the maximum that the actual card can run. So my Class 2 could run at Class 6 speeds, but not garaunteed to do so.
Thanks for the great link though, gonna grab one!
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My pleasure =]
I love it when i find a rare golden egg haha
Sweet. I'll be buying this.
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This one is working fine for me so far. I got it for $23.50 when it was on sale, been using it for a week or two now.
ps- I took a chance based on the reviews, but the price was right and it hasn't given me any problems, yet.
=]
nubecoder said:
This one is working fine for me so far. I got it for $23.50 when it was on sale, been using it for a week or two now.
ps- I took a chance based on the reviews, but the price was right and it hasn't given me any problems, yet.
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Keyword: Yet. I know I know, But I'm a skeptic. I trust A-data because I've purchased their products before. By the looks of it, it seems that specific card seems to break down quicker than others...
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Keyword: Yet. I know I know, But I'm a skeptic. I trust A-data because I've purchased their products before. By the looks of it, it seems that specific card seems to break down quicker than others...
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Been running this sme card now for about 6 months with no problems and I do a lot withh it.
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I honestly don't think a lot of these high class less quality SD cards are worth it. As mentioned earlier in this thread, the class is only minimum. It also doesn't take into consideration the longevity of the card. I bought the 32gb patriot (Class 10) from new egg and it totally when bad on me after 3 weeks. I lost some important info (backup up most). Was able to luckily return it just under the 4 week limit newegg has for returns. Not to mention the speed was really no different that I could notice compared to the stock SD card. I'm probably going to get the Sandisk soon since it's the only brand that I trust.
Im looking to get a new 32g sd card whats the best one to get. I've been using my 8g sd card for about 2 years now I never had problems just want a 32g.
Ree$e said:
Im looking to get a new 32g sd card whats the best one to get. I've been using my 8g sd card for about 2 years now I never had problems just want a 32g.
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I bought the 32gb that Verizon sells today for $99. It was regularly $149 but its on sell right now. Its still kind of pricey, but I really like it. Doesn't slow anything down, and now I can put more music and movies on my phone. You can get the same card on Ebay for around $65 right now. It's a SanDisk brand and Ive always had good luck with them.
I need a 32gb my 16 is full I keep having to delete old stuff and store it on my computer. I want to keep everything on my phone.
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Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
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sanumaj said:
Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
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Good question
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Oh man, I'll be so pissed if that turns out to be the case. If so, why would they give the XL only 16GB when the Tegra edition has 32?
Maybe the difference in price between the S4 and T3 is the same as a 16GB mSD card and 32GB. There's always trade-offs to be made in hardware design. HTC probably wanted to keep the phone below a certain threshold regarding component cost.
sanumaj said:
Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
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I was wondering the same thing the other day. I love almost everything I'm seeing about this phone but the 16GB (actually, only about 12GB usable) thing is really making me hesitant to buy it. Too bad the captions in the pictures aren't translated!
I don't see any microsd or microsd slot in any of those pics. Internal memory is usually a soldered chip on the board. Would be pretty difficult to swap those out.
sanumaj said:
Though I was holding out for the S3, could not help pass off a $49 upgrade on the HTC One X. I have seen disassembly pics of the HTC One X and am wondeing if they use a microSD card for the internal memory (like Samsung did for Captivate? ) and if it would be possible to swap out the memory card with a cloned say 32 gb / 64 gb card?
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Actually, none of the Samsung phones ever used internal microSD cards. Samsung phones always use NAND chips (Captivate included).
In the past, HTC always use miroSD cards for internal storage. But it may have changed recently. Who knows.
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Internal memory is usually a soldered chip on the board. Would be pretty difficult to swap those out.
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Yes, and the solder joints are usually tiny on the chips. Very difficult to do by hand (if not almost impossible), with little room for error.
The words in simplified Chinese are simply describing how to take the phone apart. The original pictures are a part of a series of pictures teaching you how to take apart the phone and the text are things like "The camera is connected to the main circuit board, so be sure to be careful when disassembling." I went through all of the pictures on the original site and none of it mentions where data storage is.
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The words in simplified Chinese are simply describing how to take the phone apart. The original pictures are a part of a series of pictures teaching you how to take apart the phone and the text are things like "The camera is connected to the main circuit board, so be sure to be careful when disassembling." I went through all of the pictures on the original site and none of it mentions where data storage is.
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Thanks for taking time to review the pics and the translations.. Its a shame that HTC decided to skimp on the internal memory and provide no expandable options. Suspect att strategy involves increased dependence on cloud storage that would force users to increase data consumption... Chi ching!
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Since the at&t version only has 16 gb, does anyone have the ACTUAL real storage space? Does it end up being like 14.92 gigs or something? This phone looks really sweet, but I currently have about 12-13 gigs of music on my captivate and the 16gb could pose as a real annoyance.
It is a nand chip, so no hidden microsd slot.
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It is a nand chip, so no hidden microsd slot.
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Thanks for the confirmation DG.
On a different note, I have been following you since the captivate days. Love your work and am a big fan.
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JayFReaZy said:
Since the at&t version only has 16 gb, does anyone have the ACTUAL real storage space? Does it end up being like 14.92 gigs or something? This phone looks really sweet, but I currently have about 12-13 gigs of music on my captivate and the 16gb could pose as a real annoyance.
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9.93 usable, 2 for apps
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JayFReaZy said:
Since the at&t version only has 16 gb, does anyone have the ACTUAL real storage space? Does it end up being like 14.92 gigs or something? This phone looks really sweet, but I currently have about 12-13 gigs of music on my captivate and the 16gb could pose as a real annoyance.
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Google Music is probably the only realistic solution for you... Stream some music and pick and choose what to keep on your phone.
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Google Music is probably the only realistic solution for you... Stream some music and pick and choose what to keep on your phone.
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Would use data plan if not on wifi. Still if you are 3GB or more with att should be doable with moderate use
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sanumaj said:
Thanks for taking time to review the pics and the translations.. Its a shame that HTC decided to skimp on the internal memory and provide no expandable options. Suspect att strategy involves increased dependence on cloud storage that would force users to increase data consumption... Chi ching!
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WE HAVE A WINNER!!!! I completely bet this was ATT's decision.
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9.93 usable, 2 for apps
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Thanks for the info, but WOW is that a small amount of space. I have close to 5GB on just pictures and videos alone.
I was thinking about google music, however, I mostly listen to music while in the subway; which means no reception/wifi. I had my sights on getting this phone, I guess I may need more time to think about it. If HTC was able to put a slot for a microSIM, why not a micro SD as well? . But, like someone stated in an earlier post, I'm sure it is to force people to use the cloud, which uses data, and ultimately creates overages.
I've been waiting to see a teardown to see if replacing the nand would be possible. If it was that would make a huge market for broken International One-X boards. I can't judge by the pictures if it's possible. Usually on a teardown there's at least 20 pics.
As far as AT&T's plan and why they knocked us down to essentially 10 gigs..
You had one thing right when you said cloud dependency, but I think it goes much further than that. Think of the 23GB free Dropbox space they're giving us all, the Google Music they are all undoubtedly expecting us to use. It's the precursor to their future attempt to hold your data hostage! What are you going to do if you don't pay your bill and your service goes out? You can't access your dropbox on the go, you can't stream your music through Google Play. They know that nobody wants to actually fill that measly 10 gigs with music. It's an attempt to get you more motivated to pay your monthly bill, and to extend your contract for another two years once this one is up. It's funny how they give you 23 gigs on your dropbox for 2 years, the same as your contract length. Something tells me that extending your contract will get you another 2 years once it's up. It might look like simple marketing, but honestly it's quite shady of them.
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I've been waiting to see a teardown to see if replacing the nand would be possible. If it was that would make a huge market for broken International One-X boards. I can't judge by the pictures if it's possible. Usually on a teardown there's at least 20 pics.
As far as AT&T's plan and why they knocked us down to essentially 10 gigs..
You had one thing right when you said cloud dependency, but I think it goes much further than that. Think of the 23GB free Dropbox space they're giving us all, the Google Music they are all undoubtedly expecting us to use. It's the precursor to their future attempt to hold your data hostage! What are you going to do if you don't pay your bill and your service goes out? You can't access your dropbox on the go, you can't stream your music through Google Play. They know that nobody wants to actually fill that measly 10 gigs with music. It's an attempt to get you more motivated to pay your monthly bill, and to extend your contract for another two years once this one is up. It's funny how they give you 23 gigs on your dropbox for 2 years, the same as your contract length. Something tells me that extending your contract will get you another 2 years once it's up. It might look like simple marketing, but honestly it's quite shady of them.
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http://fashion.pconline.com.cn/mobile/1204/2754053.html
If you go to the original article, there are 21 picks but it's not that helpful. The article is in Chinese but pictures are pictures. Most of the words say things like "screw here", etc.
It should be noted that this is the international version of the HTC One X.
I have been torn about keeping the 16GB or getting the 32GB. I just don't know what to do. I have used a large amount of storage on the 16GB already and my 30 day return is up tomorrow. Any suggestions?
See the thread int eh android development section about Apps2SD that you can run without rooting or anythig. The author is TweakerL. Look it up.
Return for 32 imo. Unless your a pop the collar with your hat turned backwards kinda guy. Then keep the white.
I faced the same dilemma and decided to switch from 16gb to 32gb... If not it would have bothered me.
The only thing I miss is the White color...
I don't have the white one.
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I have been torn about keeping the 16GB or getting the 32GB. I just don't know what to do. I have used a large amount of storage on the 16GB already and my 30 day return is up tomorrow. Any suggestions?
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I have the 16 GB but I used this app to move my data folders to my 64GB microSD card. You can actually move any folders over, not just data folders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
I like the white color so this works out really well for me. This app effectively turned my White 16GB note into an 80GB note.
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I have the 16 GB but I used this app to move my data folders to my 64GB microSD card. You can actually move any folders over, not just data folders.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
I like the white color so this works out really well for me. This app effectively turned my White 16GB note into an 80GB note.
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Can you confirm a 64gb card works? Sammy's website says up to 32gb cards can be used.
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Why would you pay loads of ectra money fo 16GB extra, when you can buy a 16GB uSD for a few pennies?
Szadzik said:
Why would you pay loads of ectra money fo 16GB extra, when you can buy a 16GB uSD for a few pennies?
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I don't view $50 as loads extra. Plus no matter how big your microsd card is you'll always have 16gb less with a 16 vs 32 model.
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Can you confirm a 64gb card works? Sammy's website says up to 32gb cards can be used.
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I have a 64GB card in there now and it detected as 59GB free. It's formatted FAT32.
I went right for the 32 gb because id second guess like yourself . Plus my a500 is 16 gb and runs out fast. So 32 + 64 gives me 86 gb of storage
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I have a 64GB card in there now and it detected as 59GB free. It's formatted FAT32.
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Nefariouss said:
I don't view $50 as loads extra. Plus no matter how big your microsd card is you'll always have 16gb less with a 16 vs 32 model.
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Availability of the 3G 32GB version is a problem too, at least in Europe. No 3G, no tablet for me personally.
I ordered (and have been using) the 16gb in white for 2-3 weeks, and just decided yesterday to order the 32gb in deep gray, instead. Although I try to store all of my media externally, I use up that space quickly. At the same time, I find it to be a PITA to swap things between internal and external, such as backups and ROMs. I don't mind paying $50 more for twice the memory, but I wouldn't have paid much more than that at all.
As for the color, while I like the white, I'm not fond of the silver/gray borders; I think it makes the device look kinda cheap, like a toy, though I do like that it resembles my Skyrocket. However, the border on the Skyrocket is not only a lot slimmer, it's chrome, which is much more appealing to me. I wish they had done something similar in this case.
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I have a 64GB card in there now and it detected as 59GB free. It's formatted FAT32.
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All 64GB cards show as 59GB. It happens with all storage devices. That's to do with the fact that you're never going to get the full amount that you get told you will, because a portion of that memory is actually being used by the storage device for information pertaining to its self.
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All 64GB cards show as 59GB. It happens with all storage devices. That's to do with the fact that you're never going to get the full amount that you get told you will, because a portion of that memory is actually being used by the storage device for information pertaining to its self.
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It shows as 59GB mainly because manufacturers give the storage sace in 1000s wile your tablet counts it in 1024s.
I looked at this for mine and decided to go for the 32 gb model since DRM protected movies cannot currently be moved to the SD card.
Google Play phone support guy advised that they have rec'd a lot of requests to enable this, so perhaps in the future it won't be an issue.
In short, SD card is too complicated. What?!
https://plus.google.com/114892667463719782631/posts/JAAMUzx1PFX
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Why don’t Nexus devices have SD cards?
Everybody likes the idea of having an SD card, but in reality it's just confusing for users.
If you’re saving photos, videos or music, where does it go? Is it on your phone? Or on your card? Should there be a setting? Prompt everytime? What happens to the experience when you swap out the card? It’s just too complicated.
We take a different approach. Your Nexus has a fixed amount of space and your apps just seamlessly use it for you without you ever having to worry about files or volumes or any of that techy nonsense left over from the paleolithic era of computing.
With a Nexus you know exactly how much storage you get upfront and you can decide what’s the right size for you. That’s simple and good for users.
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When galaxy nexus was launched, It was the perfect phone for me .after I discovered that it has no external SD ,it is not my concern anymore
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lost_ said:
In short, SD card is too complicated. What?!
https://plus.google.com/114892667463719782631/posts/JAAMUzx1PFX
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The vast majority of people are not tech savvy so simple is better for Google and they will sell more. Same reasoning for the phone hybrid ui on the tablets.
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Happy to accept what google are saying, but if you wont offer the option of an SD card you probably need to up the max capacity from 16, to 32 and possible 64. Thats if you want the best product going anyway
I used to believe external SD card support is a must have. But in reality, I never needed it. And having everything in the ROM = Faster access.
TBH, I have yet to reach even 8GB let alone 16gb in my GNex.
16 gb are way to low for me. i am using my device as a mp3 player and i now have about 20 gb of music on my sd card. i seriously cant follow the arguments against an sd card slot
20gb of music? Wow...
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Hotte175 said:
16 gb are way to low for me. i am using my device as a mp3 player and i now have about 20 gb of music on my sd card. i seriously cant follow the arguments against an sd card slot
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You really need access to 20GB of music all the time? Why not use Google music to stream most of it and just keep your most listen songs on your device
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lol that's some insultingly poor marketing bs. Even Apple wouldn't make such a crappy argument to justify the removal of a very crucial and popular feature from one of their flagship devices.
If you backtrack and stop supporting something that people used to take for granted with your product, you better have a damn good reason.
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You really need access to 20GB of music all the time? Why not use Google music to stream most of it and just keep your most listen songs on your device
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Seriously?
1) capped, expensive data plans.
2) 3G/wifi are not a given for many users and usecases.
3) take longer to play a song that you already have a local copy of (why?)
4) Google Music does not have a public API and the official app sucks.
And for the record I definitely "need" at least 20 GB worth of music at any given time
It sounds like a statement Apple would issue. My old "dumb" phone had a setting for whether to save camera pics and videos on internal memory or external microSD. Is is really that hard Google, or would you rather take the Apple approach.
Here are my reasons why phones should have SD slots:
-You can get tons of cloud storage for free, but using that storage will cost a lot if you don't have unlimited data. It will also be slower to access than locally stored files.
-Programs, especially games are getting bigger. Its not uncommon to have a single game want a GB of space for its files these days. They will only continue getting bigger and that phone you just bought is stuck with the same amount of memory. It may be enough space now, but what about in a year?
-The price to buy a device with larger internal storage costs much more in $ per GB than a microSD would. Its $50 more to go from the 8GB Nexus 4 to the 16GB. Meanwhile I've seen 64gb microSDXC cards go on sale for $50.
-The memory is not stuck in one device. If I invest in a 64gb card I can take it to my next phone without paying more.
-Its very cheap for an OEM to add a microSD slot, were not asking for a lot of hardware.
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16 gb are way to low for me. i am using my device as a mp3 player and i now have about 20 gb of music on my sd card. i seriously cant follow the arguments against an sd card slot
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Dude 20GB is a LOT of music. It's probably a few days 72 hours worth of music. Don't keep it on your phone, keep about 14 hours, that's the plane ride from USA to China (halfway across the world). I can't even begin to justify the need of so much music.
I only have maybe 4 hours or so of music, that's enough for me. I don't care if a few songs repeat, it's like the radio.
EDIT assuming each 10MB file is 3 mins long, then you actually have 100 hours of music.
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When the argument becomes about how much space a consumer really needs, then the answer is obvious: let the consumer decides.
But if you are willing to concede and let the maker make the choice on storage capacity, at a time when storage has become so dirt cheap, then a good option is to buy a product whose name begins with i.
That is one weak argument from google.
Why not make the nexus 8 or 16gb as it is AND keep sd card support?
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That is one weak argument from google.
Why not make the nexus 8 or 16gb as it is AND keep sd card support?
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They had reasons about being secure and faster data transfer before too, but those were also pretty weak arguments.
I would like SD cards, but that's the tradeoff for owning a Nexus, I guess.
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Yeah it's too complicated. 16GB internal storage is perfect for me.
Nexus one.
Removable battery
Sd slot.
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Nexus one.
Removable battery
Sd slot.
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Nexii had a removable battery until the Nexus 7, that is relatively new.
And the N1 had an internal storage of what? 300mb? If it didn't have microSD it would be one messed up phone
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Your Nexus has a fixed amount of space and your apps just seamlessly use it for you without you ever having to worry about files or volumes or any of that techy nonsense left over from the paleolithic era of computing.
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Frankly, that's almost insulting to assume that we are that stupid. i chose Android over iOS why? Because I am not stupid, I do not want to be spoon-fed technology like a drooling infant. I chose android because I have a choice- I can choose what to do with my device, how I do it, everything like that. I can choose the software I want to install--and I can chose where I get that software from. I can even choose the operating system, or write one myself, if I want. That's what makes Android such a great platform. Choice, scaleability.
To just write that off as "too complicated" is absolutely...dumb. And makes me question just what the future of the android platform will be.
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Dude 20GB is a LOT of music. It's probably a few days 72 hours worth of music. Don't keep it on your phone, keep about 14 hours, that's the plane ride from USA to China (halfway across the world). I can't even begin to justify the need of so much music.
I only have maybe 4 hours or so of music, that's enough for me. I don't care if a few songs repeat, it's like the radio.
EDIT assuming each 10MB file is 3 mins long, then you actually have 100 hours of music.
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maybe it is a bit offtopic but imo 20gb of music is not much. i still use a mp3player (much better than using the smartphone) and there i got 8gb & 32gb (sd card).i really like to have discographies on the go of my favourite bands.
also: not everyone is using .mp3 - people also use .flac which takes a lot of space.
regarding the topic: sounds a bit stupid to me. probably the production is just cheaper this way and it makes it more difficult to put custom roms on it.
I think the google android chief is brilliant, that philosophy should be applied everywhere:
-4 doors in the car? Too confusing for the user, seal 3 doors, that way we always know how to get in and out.
-6 windows in the house? Make it just one, so we don't look out through the wrong one.
-who needs cable tv? Block all channels but one, so we don't get confused as to what's on tv.
-you have 2 kids? Send the other one to google, keep just the 1. That way you'll always know who failed their math test, or who fed the hamster to the cat.
It's a marketing strategy to get more $$$. That way they can sell very expensive gb of internal space.
File this under "WTF Samsung."
https://news.samsung.com/us/galaxy-s9-s9plus-new-128gb-256gb-storage/
I waited and researched my options, before finally pulling the plug and settled with the unlocked 64GB SD version that's available in the US. I bouhgt my device on Apr 1st, didn't even realize that their window to initiate RMA is only 15 days.
Chatted with a live chat agent, and didn't offer any other way to help me to exchange to the larger storage options as I'm out of my 15 day window.
I want to see if anyone else has encountered this situation with Samsung direct...I've read in the past bout how terrible their customer service is, so not really putting much hope on this one.
Or open to any other suggestion as well.
TLR: Bought 64GB on Apr 1st from Samsung.com, now they announce the larger storage options but I'm out of the return period.
Your going to need to sell it, as much as I hated to say that.
But I am with you, I never really need 128G but if its available I always get it because it increases the resale value. Now that they got 128 / 256GB I am sure the resale of the current 64GB's just hit the floor.
Wow that's kind of messed up for those who actually buy these devices and have to recoup the costs when they upgrade later
One of the reasons I went with Exynos was for the 128. I'd almost consider selling it for the SD variant now just for the better radio support in the u.s.
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Your going to need to sell it, as much as I hated to say that.
But I am with you, I never really need 128G but if its available I always get it because it increases the resale value. Now that they got 128 / 256GB I am sure the resale of the current 64GB's just hit the floor.
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Unfortunately yeah. I even called the sales line, they won't budge at all. And they kept like..."you know you can also upgrade the storage through microsd to up to 400GB..." And I told them..yeah I could, but wouldn't you rather me spending that $195 on you instead?
Plus, these people have no clue on the speed difference between UFS 2.1 and microsd.
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Wow that's kind of messed up for those who actually buy these devices and have to recoup the costs when they upgrade later
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Yeah, I've seen a collective outrage around reddit and article comments, maybe if enough people send them some rage phone call they might do something about it.
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One of the reasons I went with Exynos was for the 128. I'd almost consider selling it for the SD variant now just for the better radio support in the u.s.
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you know this was the deciding point that made me go for the 64GB SD variant since I was reading about the poor signal quality and what not.
I originally was gonna go for the G9650 SD HK/Chinese version to get the larger storage.
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you know this was the deciding point that made me go for the 64GB SD variant since I was reading about the poor signal quality and what not.
I originally was gonna go for the G9650 SD HK/Chinese version to get the larger storage.
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I'm using Cricket, and my signal strength is fine, but I can't help but feel like my data would be faster on a SD variant.
Is wanting a bigger storage option just solely for the higher resale value after? I would understand the outrage if there was no expandable storage but in this case there is expandable storage.
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Is wanting a bigger storage option just solely for the higher resale value after? I would understand the outrage if there was no expandable storage but in this case there is expandable storage.
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that's one of the reasons I purchased the G965F from CLOVE UK - it came with 128 GB and was available back when it was originally released.
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Is wanting a bigger storage option just solely for the higher resale value after? I would understand the outrage if there was no expandable storage but in this case there is expandable storage.
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That is true, but internal storage is lightning fast compared to external storage
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Is wanting a bigger storage option just solely for the higher resale value after? I would understand the outrage if there was no expandable storage but in this case there is expandable storage.
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nope, I just need bigger storage since I have a lot of apps and files even with my 200GB microsd. Constantly moving pics/videos to the Microsd gets real old real fast.
and as mentioned before, having UFS 2.1 speed is not the same with microSD. Especially if you're recording 4K videos, you need a U3 speed card for that. Even sandisk 400GB is only U1, god knows how much their new extreme U3 version card is gonna cost.
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Your going to need to sell it, as much as I hated to say that.
But I am with you, I never really need 128G but if its available I always get it because it increases the resale value. Now that they got 128 / 256GB I am sure the resale of the current 64GB's just hit the floor.
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Man, I was not even thinking about that part of it til you said it either.. That is crap.
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Is wanting a bigger storage option just solely for the higher resale value after? I would understand the outrage if there was no expandable storage but in this case there is expandable storage.
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For me, yes. The better speced the phone the better resale value. I keep my phones on average 2 or 3 months as a daily driver so maximizing my return is essential!
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Unfortunately yeah. I even called the sales line, they won't budge at all. And they kept like..."you know you can also upgrade the storage through microsd to up to 400GB..." And I told them..yeah I could, but wouldn't you rather me spending that $195 on you instead?
Plus, these people have no clue on the speed difference between UFS 2.1 and microsd.
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If they had said that to me I would have pointed the irony in the statement...
So your telling me th einternal storage is not that big of a deal so I should use an SD card? Yet, its a big enough deal to you make a phone with larger capcity... Things that make you go hmmmmm...
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Plus, these people have no clue on the speed difference between UFS 2.1 and microsd.
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I read somewhere on XDA that not all devices are 2.1!TRUE STORY! If I can find it again I will post here but some are only UFS 2.0 depending on the EMMCS / DRAM MFG.
True Story!
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I read somewhere on XDA that not all devices are 2.1!TRUE STORY! If I can find it again I will post here but some are only UFS 2.0 depending on the EMMCS / DRAM MFG.
True Story!
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Strange, I just quoted myself...
Anyways... Yes, It appears this is the case for a few different devices including the Note 8 and the S8+ as well as I found some lesser known brands using this crap.
Does anyone know if the 256gb unlocked version will work on Sprint CDMA network?
Can't find any specs on it.
Thanks