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Have anyone saw if we're getting update for the androod O?
The only sure thing is "updates for 2 years" we just dont know how many there will be.
I think we will be lucky if we see 7.1.X updates or EMUI 5.1 ...
After all if they give you Android 8 on Honor 8, how will they convince you to buy a new mobile in 1.5-2 years ? Its a market thing...
Same happened with OneplusX , you like it? you want more? buy a new model.
I do not believe we get the update on Android O.
Samsung keep their promise and gave android 5.1 for my old Galaxy s4.
If I couldn't receive 2 years update, I will erase the Huawei from list and Me, nor some one near me will never buy Huawei again. It's simple like that. We call it "trust". And miss using trust is a "one time" mistake.
I think we could receive it.
I personally don't it. We went five months without a simple security update. A full OS overhaul seems unlikely to me.
evilpaul13 said:
I personally don't it. We went five months without a simple security update. A full OS overhaul seems unlikely to me.
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Something is moving on Firmware Finder. I think that we will have something soon.
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Unlikely, but it's more likely we get O than 7.1.2.
i want it but i think wont get it
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Unlikely, but it's more likely we get O than 7.1.2.
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Huawei customizes the interface. The version of Android is quite irrelevant.
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SSyar said:
i want it but i think wont get it
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The only chance we would get it is through custom ROMs.
No questions about it, yes
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Huawei customizes the interface. The version of Android is quite irrelevant.
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Not entirely irrelevant. Nougat brought native replies within notifications, that wasn't possible on Marshmallow (without Xposed). If Huawei's customizations bring the same or comparable features to an older version, I can live with that, but they don't always.
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Not entirely irrelevant. Nougat brought native replies within notifications, that wasn't possible on Marshmallow (without Xposed). If Huawei's customizations bring the same or comparable features to an older version, I can live with that, but they don't always.
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Huawei should make notifications and how we interact with them from the lockscreen just like stock Android
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Huawei should make notifications and how we interact with them from the lockscreen just like stock Android
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Agreed, though their target market in China prefers devices that behave similarly to iOS. Thankfully EMUI5 / Nougat is much closer to AOSP than EMUI4 / Marshmallow.
Telperion said:
Agreed, though their target market in China prefers devices that behave similarly to iOS. Thankfully EMUI5 / Nougat is much closer to AOSP than EMUI4 / Marshmallow.
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I wish it will happen in EMUI 6
Personally i hope but i think not. They don't even want to update to 7.1. Think about this, they made P8 (flagship version not Lite one) with a good hardware to support android 7.0 and even 7.1 and guess what? They killed it in favor of P8 lite 2017 that comes with Nougat and the hardware is just slightly different. The P8 just receives security patch updates (at least this phone receive it, we not), nothing more. I agree with those who say is a marketing thing. Talking about our phone, i think it's capable to get 7.1 and even O but probably it will die after the "Big" update with some EMUI 5.1 features on our EMUI 5.0. If we're lucky we'll get by time some security patch updates but nothing more. I wish they can keep their promises about 2 year updates, but actually i'm pretty diffident. Hope they can show me that i'm wrong
I think Honor 8 will receive another major update.
The fact they won't update Honor 7 (Yes, compatibility issues, but still...) disappointed lots of buyers. Making the same mistake with Honor 8 would destroy the reliability of the brand. I hope they're not so stupid.
michele955 said:
I think Honor 8 will receive another major update.
The fact they won't update Honor 7 (Yes, compatibility issues, but still...) disappointed lots of buyers. Making the same mistake with Honor 8 would destroy the reliability of the brand. I hope they're not so stupid.
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I'm hoping with you. Then if everything goes well, we still have to see if they will give us 7.1 or O as major update. What do you think about?
Giuskiller said:
I'm hoping with you. Then if everything goes well, we still have to see if they will give us 7.1 or O as major update. What do you think about?
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The honor 7 wasn't updated to nougat because of Google's policy about the update (I don't know what is required exactly), and the honor 8 will get Android Or for sure.
Have we got any hope? Why don't they just say no?
Want updates? Get a Google Pixel, Sony XZ or OnePlus. Either factory or 3rd party, there's always some ROM.
As a rule of thumb Chinese (except OnePlus and probably some other) brands take your money and that's the end of story.
Honor 8 will not get Oreo update. Support won't tell you anything about their update policy.
Because they are not sure if they are gonna release Oreo for the Honor 8 or not.
I remember on Honor 6x forums, there is a post saying Honor 6x would get Oreo. If that's true, I don't see why Honor 8 cannot... Maybe HUAWEI hasn't decided whether or not they would build Oreo for more Honor devices.
Common, how naive can someone be? Who believes Huawei/Honor would disclose the update path before just before doing it? It would upset current ownsers.
We just need to look at how the brands I mentioned (plus HMD/Nokia) plan and communicate the updates: they publicly and officially communicate it months before doing it. No ifs or buts. Because it's a strong point in their favour. Not the case of Huawei.
It's clear as water but one might choose to believe in a different thing. Like pigs can fly.
Edit: this is nuts! Oneplus 2 will not receive official Oreo. Honor 7 neither (what a joke) and they were both lunched one month (2015) after the other. OP2 have Lineage R15 (Oreo) working. H7 have :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Snapdragon is the way to go.
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I remember on Honor 6x forums, there is a post saying Honor 6x would get Oreo. If that's true, I don't see why Honor 8 cannot... Maybe HUAWEI hasn't decided whether or not they would build Oreo for more Honor devices.
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They say that they're testing it
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Common, how naive can someone be? Who believes Huawei/Honor would disclose the update path before just before doing it? It would upset current ownsers.
We just need to look at how the brands I mentioned (plus HMD/Nokia) plan and communicate the updates: they publicly and officially communicate it months before doing it. No ifs or buts. Because it's a strong point in their favour. Not the case of Huawei.
It's clear as water but one might choose to believe in a different thing. Like pigs can fly.
Edit: this is nuts! Oneplus 2 will not receive official Oreo. Honor 7 neither (what a joke) and they were both lunched one month (2015) after the other. OP2 have Lineage R15 (Oreo) working. H7 have :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Snapdragon is the way to go.
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I don't know the point of hiding everything. Say that you are testing it and we'll know soon, say that there is no hope, but just say something.
The support people know as much as you do on updates. They aren't told so they can't tell anyone else. That way, they aren't involved in any early release tests that they aren't supposed to provide support for.
What's the point of having inhouse processors if you don't optimise and update the device.? I know 2 years worth of updates is too much to ask, but it's been less than an year, and this device already feels abandoned. At the very least be like Xiaomi, update your own EMUI for most phones, if android updates are so big of an ask
I was thinking of getting Mate 9, and i just noticed that there are not much development of custom roms like other devices such as LG and samsung, is there a reason or just the mate series not getting much attention?
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I was thinking of getting Mate 9, and i just noticed that there are not much development of custom roms like other devices such as LG and samsung, is there a reason or just the mate series not getting much attention?
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First and second both.
Reason - You can build working boot from kernel sources. But camera will not work.
And Mate 9 has not much developers.
But in defense of phone I can say that it is great device. We are able to root and Magisk, install every stock ROM, rebrand between localizations, use Xposed. Stock ROMs are good, quick and have many useful functions.
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First and second both.
Reason - You can build working boot from kernel sources. But camera will not work.
And Mate 9 has not much developers.
But in defense of phone I can say that it is great device. We are able to root and Magisk, install every stock ROM, rebrand between localizations, use Xposed. Stock ROMs are good, quick and have many useful functions.
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Oh thank you for your reply. :good:
can please explain what does the "rebrand between localizations" means? because i ve been reading it everywhere but not able to understand what does it mean and its purpose? and does that void warranty?
Also, someone told me on a forum that if you bought huawei from a specific region like Europe and you are using it outside of europe, as in not european simcard, you will not receive updates ? only until you use a sim related to where you bought the phone from? is this related to the "rebrand between localizations" ?
You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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Absolutely fantastic battery life and fast phone! ?
grinch247 said:
Absolutely fantastic battery life and fast phone!
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+1 Great phone! I am running stock longer than any rom in 10 years! Think about all the things you can do in your life without constantly tinkering with a phone :laugh:
Shady282 said:
Oh thank you for your reply. :good:
can please explain what does the "rebrand between localizations" means? because i ve been reading it everywhere but not able to understand what does it mean and its purpose? and does that void warranty?
Also, someone told me on a forum that if you bought huawei from a specific region like Europe and you are using it outside of europe, as in not european simcard, you will not receive updates ? only until you use a sim related to where you bought the phone from? is this related to the "rebrand between localizations" ?
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Rebrand between localizations means that you are able to buy Chinese model MHA-AL00 with Chinese ROM and rebrand to world ROM and vice versa.
Models are same by hardware.
About sim and updates - yeah, problem still exists. To get updates quickly after they released need phone with proper region/localization and proper sim.
So, I live in Russia and have Russian operator's sim. I bought European Mate 9 cause Huawei doesn't sell Mate's series in Russia (Russia is C10 in Huawei customization). My chances to get update on my MHA-L29C432 faster than European owners are very small. Fortunately, it is not problem to me.
P.s. I told that chances are small but they are not null. Huawei rolls on some ROMs to all after some time (about month)
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You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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Oh but a lot of users reported that huawei does not have a good customer support in case of issues with the phone and such. is it true?
What about updates? do you expect getting oero and so on OS ? since there are not a lot of custom roms?
tho i didn't like the fact the regional update lock based on the sim card region you are using.
but i love the good SOT.
I've read online that the Zenfone 6 will get Android Q and R. Can anyone point me at anything official from Asus to verify this?
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I've read online that the Zenfone 6 will get Android Q and R. Can anyone point me at anything official from Asus to verify this?
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Watch the announcement event on YouTube. Should be in there. However it's not uncommon for promises of updates to be broken. Just saying since you seem to be looking for some kind of official confirmation instead of all the media coverage relaying what Asus has said on the matter.
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I've read online that the Zenfone 6 will get Android Q and R. Can anyone point me at anything official from Asus to verify this?
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Here you go:
https://youtu.be/VBk8c1oHUcA?t=3468
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However it's not uncommon for promises of updates to be broken.
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Quoting this for emphasis. Manufacturers have been lying about updates for years.
Any manufacturers promise of long-term support needs to be taken with a tablespoon of salt. They make money selling phones.....they get squat for pushing updates to those phones....In a while they'll get bankrupt unless they sell more. Simple market dynamics 101.
Quite frankly...I believe that the version of Android that was built into the phone is usually the best. Maybe not the best version of Android per-se...but the best for the hardware. So many times I read about people who beg for a new version for their phones only to complain later that the update sucks, and is full of bugs. So I can appreciate if they push Q but as for R...welllllll, that may be just a little too much.
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Quite frankly...I believe that the version of Android that was built into the phone is usually the best. Maybe not the best version of Android per-se...but the best for the hardware.
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That's very true for fat custom skins which deeply changes stock Android look and feel as well as adds new features. Like Samsung' former TouchWiz.
OT: I am using for nearly two years Xiaomi Mi A1 with Android One. It started with Android Nougat 7.1.2, then we were updated to Oreo 8.0, 8.1 and for half an year we have Pie 9. With every Android major version and with every monthly security update the phone is better and better, they steadily eliminate bugs and even add new features which were missing at start (like FM radio app, VoLTE support, etc). I am very happy with it. But despite this there are always users who are not satisfied for example because they have not done their homework about Mi A1 and they say that slim stock Android is worse for them than fat MIUI.
I decided to contact Huawei Support to find out what's happening with the MediaPad M5 [US Version - SHT W09 (C567)] upgrade to EMUI 9.0, since it's been perpetually stuck on 8.0.0.196 for many months with seemingly no official way to upgrade. I will say that they do have a very good support team that was quite helpful. Below is the e-mail response that I received.
"This email is to follow-up your inquiry about an update for the MediaPad M5. We would like to draw to your attention that currently, we do not have any information about this update coming to your device. However, please do not be disheartened, we recommend you to stay tuned to our social networks as we will continue publishing relevant information about further updates in there."
Well, many of us users of the SHT W09 (C567)] feel really completely left out by Huawei. I truly hope that I'll see an upgrade to at least EMUI 9.0 for my MediaPad M5, however I may never buy another Huawei device in the future even though they make fantastic devices.
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I got a further bit of information by contacting Huawei via The Twitters:
"Based on the information you kindly provided us, we could verify that your MediaPad M5 is up to date with the last upgrade available. You can be sure that we are working to provide with the best user experience to our customers. That's why we invite you to stay tuned to our official sites, where you can find more news regarding the next updates for your device model."
Based on that response I'm trying to prepare mentally for not getting an update.
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I was quite surprised this morning to see an update notification. All it did was bring the M5 up to July's patch level. Still EMUI 8 with 8.0.0.198 so a minor jump. Still not sure why we can't have at minimum EMUI 9.
I have the same issue with my CMR-AL09, stuck also on 8.0.0.196 (C432) ,
never again huawei ,
The odd thing is there are some users who have gotten 9.0. my only guess is the US ban stopped the rollout hopefully now that it's lifted the rollout will ramp back up.
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The odd thing is there are some users who have gotten 9.0. my only guess is the US ban stopped the rollout hopefully now that it's lifted the rollout will ramp back up.
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The ban hasn't officially been lifted. Either way, Google had a 3 month licence to continue trading with Huawei until end of August iirc.
I have the CMR-W09 (C567) version and I have not got Pie yet. But I am not really that upset. Yes I would like to have Pie, but I can live without it. I bought this tablet knowing that it would upgrade to Pie at some point. If I get Pie or not it is still better than having a Samsung.
I'm in the market for a one-hand tablet (less than 5" width). Are Huawei tablets in the bad books with Google Android, in a wider USA-China context ? I am in Australia, so there is no official ban (yet) on Huawei products, but Huawei was prevented from bidding for a 5G network.
Mediapad M5 seems top, but I'm likely to settle for an M3 8.0 Lite, if it has reasonable chances of being supported by Google Android.
Huawei largely abandoned the US market when political bullying from Trump forced AT&T and Best Buy to drop plans to sell the Mate 10. That phone ended up being dumped at places like Sears, K-Mart and Walmart at steep discounts. The US model Mate 10 received none of the updates that were pushed to all of the non-US models.
Since the political climate has only gotten much worse since the Mate 10 fiasco Huawei doesn't consider the United States a viable market so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for updates.
If software updates are essential to you then you are probably better off getting one of the new Samsung tablets running Android Pie.
Thanks, I'm less concerned about Android updates. But I don't want to end up with a device which has no access (or limited access) to Google Playstore. For example, I'd like to install Microsoft Office 365 which my employer gives us to read company emails. It works great on my Huawei Mate 9.
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I got a further bit of information by contacting Huawei via The Twitters:
"Based on the information you kindly provided us, we could verify that your MediaPad M5 is up to date with the last upgrade available. You can be sure that we are working to provide with the best user experience to our customers. That's why we invite you to stay tuned to our official sites, where you can find more news regarding the next updates for your device model."
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Based on their response I'm trying to prepare mentally for not getting an update.
I know this is a sore point but I'm looking for a new 8" tablet and i want to upgrade from my Z3 compact that has been on Android 6 for a while. Assuming the US Wifi model never gets updated what do people think about their Mediapad devices? Are you still happy with it? It is still worth getting for a 'high' performing media consumption tablet?
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I know this is a sore point but I'm looking for a new 8" tablet and i want to upgrade from my Z3 compact that has been on Android 6 for a while. Assuming the US Wifi model never gets updated what do people think about their Mediapad devices? Are you still happy with it? It is still worth getting for a 'high' performing media consumption tablet?
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Overall it's a great tablet, no real complaints besides the lack of attention to updates on the US WiFi model.
My 10 just received 8.0.0.198 update in the US. That's a decent sign, my hope it's security update/OS prep for the move to 9.0 or 9.1.
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My 10 just received 8.0.0.198 update in the US. That's a decent sign, my hope it's security update/OS prep for the move to 9.0 or 9.1.
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Are you able to download and install? Mine just says download failed
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Are you able to download and install? Mine just says download failed
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I had no issues, it had already downloaded via wifi so all I had to do was hit install, it completed with no issues.
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My 10 just received 8.0.0.198 update in the US. That's a decent sign, my hope it's security update/OS prep for the move to 9.0 or 9.1.
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I got that update today as well but that only adds up to two updates I have received since this tablet was launched. After Huawei abandoned the US Mate 10P it only received some security patch updates which Huawei support told me actually came from Google. It never received any OS bug fixes or feature updates from Huawei. According to the changelog there's nothing in this update other than the July security patch.
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Every day I look for information on sht-w09 567 update and see virtually nothing. I thought that someone would know something. Pretty frustrating that Android 10 beta testing is happening and Huawei gives zero information on 9 update for our tablet.
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Every day I look for information on sht-w09 567 update and see virtually nothing. I thought that someone would know something. Pretty frustrating that Android 10 beta testing is happening and Huawei gives zero information on 9 update for our tablet.
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I am wondering what you are complaining about. There is a company forced to stop (almost) all of their business in the US. How can they (and why even should they) provide updates / introduce new devices? Probably it's the wrong people you are complaining about ...
Huawei has stated that the tablet would get Android 9 update. I think it's been done in every other region. Despite the government pissing contest, how hard would it be for Huawei to release the update for USA? That is my complaint.
@cburd business is halted in US. full stop. Providing a software update is doing business ... in addition something may go wrong during the update -> they need to provide services / a place where you can complain / ... what would you say if your device is updated but (for what ever reason) doesn't work any longer and there is no support you can contact / you can speak to?
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@cburd business is halted in US. full stop. Providing a software update is doing business ... in addition something may go wrong during the update -> they need to provide services / a place where you can complain / ... what would you say if your device is updated but (for what ever reason) doesn't work any longer and there is no support you can contact / you can speak to?
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I thought they were given a 3 month reprieve or even an exception/waiver to consumer type devices?