Have we got any hope? Why don't they just say no?
Want updates? Get a Google Pixel, Sony XZ or OnePlus. Either factory or 3rd party, there's always some ROM.
As a rule of thumb Chinese (except OnePlus and probably some other) brands take your money and that's the end of story.
Honor 8 will not get Oreo update. Support won't tell you anything about their update policy.
Because they are not sure if they are gonna release Oreo for the Honor 8 or not.
I remember on Honor 6x forums, there is a post saying Honor 6x would get Oreo. If that's true, I don't see why Honor 8 cannot... Maybe HUAWEI hasn't decided whether or not they would build Oreo for more Honor devices.
Common, how naive can someone be? Who believes Huawei/Honor would disclose the update path before just before doing it? It would upset current ownsers.
We just need to look at how the brands I mentioned (plus HMD/Nokia) plan and communicate the updates: they publicly and officially communicate it months before doing it. No ifs or buts. Because it's a strong point in their favour. Not the case of Huawei.
It's clear as water but one might choose to believe in a different thing. Like pigs can fly.
Edit: this is nuts! Oneplus 2 will not receive official Oreo. Honor 7 neither (what a joke) and they were both lunched one month (2015) after the other. OP2 have Lineage R15 (Oreo) working. H7 have :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Snapdragon is the way to go.
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I remember on Honor 6x forums, there is a post saying Honor 6x would get Oreo. If that's true, I don't see why Honor 8 cannot... Maybe HUAWEI hasn't decided whether or not they would build Oreo for more Honor devices.
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Common, how naive can someone be? Who believes Huawei/Honor would disclose the update path before just before doing it? It would upset current ownsers.
We just need to look at how the brands I mentioned (plus HMD/Nokia) plan and communicate the updates: they publicly and officially communicate it months before doing it. No ifs or buts. Because it's a strong point in their favour. Not the case of Huawei.
It's clear as water but one might choose to believe in a different thing. Like pigs can fly.
Edit: this is nuts! Oneplus 2 will not receive official Oreo. Honor 7 neither (what a joke) and they were both lunched one month (2015) after the other. OP2 have Lineage R15 (Oreo) working. H7 have :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Snapdragon is the way to go.
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I don't know the point of hiding everything. Say that you are testing it and we'll know soon, say that there is no hope, but just say something.
The support people know as much as you do on updates. They aren't told so they can't tell anyone else. That way, they aren't involved in any early release tests that they aren't supposed to provide support for.
What's the point of having inhouse processors if you don't optimise and update the device.? I know 2 years worth of updates is too much to ask, but it's been less than an year, and this device already feels abandoned. At the very least be like Xiaomi, update your own EMUI for most phones, if android updates are so big of an ask
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Have anyone saw if we're getting update for the androod O?
The only sure thing is "updates for 2 years" we just dont know how many there will be.
I think we will be lucky if we see 7.1.X updates or EMUI 5.1 ...
After all if they give you Android 8 on Honor 8, how will they convince you to buy a new mobile in 1.5-2 years ? Its a market thing...
Same happened with OneplusX , you like it? you want more? buy a new model.
I do not believe we get the update on Android O.
Samsung keep their promise and gave android 5.1 for my old Galaxy s4.
If I couldn't receive 2 years update, I will erase the Huawei from list and Me, nor some one near me will never buy Huawei again. It's simple like that. We call it "trust". And miss using trust is a "one time" mistake.
I think we could receive it.
I personally don't it. We went five months without a simple security update. A full OS overhaul seems unlikely to me.
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I personally don't it. We went five months without a simple security update. A full OS overhaul seems unlikely to me.
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Something is moving on Firmware Finder. I think that we will have something soon.
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Unlikely, but it's more likely we get O than 7.1.2.
i want it but i think wont get it
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Unlikely, but it's more likely we get O than 7.1.2.
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Huawei customizes the interface. The version of Android is quite irrelevant.
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i want it but i think wont get it
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The only chance we would get it is through custom ROMs.
No questions about it, yes
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Not entirely irrelevant. Nougat brought native replies within notifications, that wasn't possible on Marshmallow (without Xposed). If Huawei's customizations bring the same or comparable features to an older version, I can live with that, but they don't always.
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Not entirely irrelevant. Nougat brought native replies within notifications, that wasn't possible on Marshmallow (without Xposed). If Huawei's customizations bring the same or comparable features to an older version, I can live with that, but they don't always.
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Huawei should make notifications and how we interact with them from the lockscreen just like stock Android
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Huawei should make notifications and how we interact with them from the lockscreen just like stock Android
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Agreed, though their target market in China prefers devices that behave similarly to iOS. Thankfully EMUI5 / Nougat is much closer to AOSP than EMUI4 / Marshmallow.
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Agreed, though their target market in China prefers devices that behave similarly to iOS. Thankfully EMUI5 / Nougat is much closer to AOSP than EMUI4 / Marshmallow.
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I wish it will happen in EMUI 6
Personally i hope but i think not. They don't even want to update to 7.1. Think about this, they made P8 (flagship version not Lite one) with a good hardware to support android 7.0 and even 7.1 and guess what? They killed it in favor of P8 lite 2017 that comes with Nougat and the hardware is just slightly different. The P8 just receives security patch updates (at least this phone receive it, we not), nothing more. I agree with those who say is a marketing thing. Talking about our phone, i think it's capable to get 7.1 and even O but probably it will die after the "Big" update with some EMUI 5.1 features on our EMUI 5.0. If we're lucky we'll get by time some security patch updates but nothing more. I wish they can keep their promises about 2 year updates, but actually i'm pretty diffident. Hope they can show me that i'm wrong
I think Honor 8 will receive another major update.
The fact they won't update Honor 7 (Yes, compatibility issues, but still...) disappointed lots of buyers. Making the same mistake with Honor 8 would destroy the reliability of the brand. I hope they're not so stupid.
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I think Honor 8 will receive another major update.
The fact they won't update Honor 7 (Yes, compatibility issues, but still...) disappointed lots of buyers. Making the same mistake with Honor 8 would destroy the reliability of the brand. I hope they're not so stupid.
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I'm hoping with you. Then if everything goes well, we still have to see if they will give us 7.1 or O as major update. What do you think about?
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I'm hoping with you. Then if everything goes well, we still have to see if they will give us 7.1 or O as major update. What do you think about?
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The honor 7 wasn't updated to nougat because of Google's policy about the update (I don't know what is required exactly), and the honor 8 will get Android Or for sure.
Honor 8 will receive the android 8 update... here's the confirmation...
Wow thats great news
I have been away from android for like 4-5 years. If I am rooted (bootloader unlocked) on the Honor 8 and there is an update to Oreo, will I get it too, or do I have to go through a different process to get it? Like do I have to unroot and then update, or can I just update?
I hope this is true. Super excited to get Android O )
if Oreo doesnt come, we have Sunny Gusain to blame
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I have been away from android for like 4-5 years. If I am rooted (bootloader unlocked) on the Honor 8 and there is an update to Oreo, will I get it too, or do I have to go through a different process to get it? Like do I have to unroot and then update, or can I just update?
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I'd say instinctively that you won't get the OTA update, but if you just rooted your phone and kept the stock ROM, you might still get the update, which will most definitely unroot your phone.
Apart from that this is great news! I'm hoping for a more 'official' announcement before getting hyped up though
This is the minimum
The minimum time of updates will be reached only in August 2018, what is almost on year after Google oficial unveil. They are already delayed with security updates.
I called Honor USA and they said they knows nothing about it, he just said all the Huawei device that came last year and this year will probably get it, honor 6x and another upcoming honor(didn't say me the name) will also get it. Unfortunately they knows nothing about honor 8.
Also I contacted huawei saudi and they said YES! Check the screenshot...............
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I called Honor USA and they said they knows nothing about it, he just said all the Huawei device that came last year and this year will probably get it, honor 6x and another upcoming honor(didn't say me the name) will also get it. Unfortunately they knows nothing about honor 8.
Also I contacted huawei saudi and they said YES! Check the screenshot...............
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To be honest, I don't rely on answers from support, until it gets announced on social media, then I'll believe it
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To be honest, I don't rely on answers from support, until it gets announced on social media, then I'll believe it
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Even I don't. They say different things different times........
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Even I don't. They say different things different times........
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Official Honor International page and EMUI page say that they have the OS and are testing it, actually I think on Mate 9. We have to wait.
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Official Honor International page and EMUI page say that they have the OS and are testing it, actually I think on Mate 9. We have to wait.
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I cannot find it. Would you mind to upload a screenshot or maybe share the link?
I contacted Customer Support and, this is the answer I received from the agent:
- "I want to be honest with you and the information I have is that Honor 8 will not be receiving the update to Oreo."
- "I deeply apologize."
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I cannot find it. Would you mind to upload a screenshot or maybe share the link?
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Here's the screen
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I contacted Customer Support and, this is the answer I received from the agent:
- "I want to be honest with you and the information I have is that Honor 8 will not be receiving the update to Oreo."
- "I deeply apologize."
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I don't trust them.
Hell, it's likely that those people don't even work for Huawei. I would just as soon call the grocery store down the street and ask them if my phone will get Oreo.
I read article on gadgetraid about Huawei updates to android Oreo and they mentioned that Honor 8 will be updated to Oreo after all flagship devices of 2017 like Mate 10, P10, Honor 8 Pro. The schedule date for our Honor 8 is still unknown, but until next year is left only 2 months so expect update to android 8 in 2018 on Honor 8 in 8th of let's hope May. :fingers-crossed:
How can i get android 8 for this phone ?
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How can i get android 8 for this phone ?
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I just bought an honor 8 and I read somewhere that it now will no longer be receiving any further updates and no upgrade to Oreo. Is this by chance 100 percent correct? Amy info on this would be greatly appreciated. If it will not be receiving any further updates from Honor then I may return it. I just am not sure what's true on this. Thanks for the help on this.
This is not true. Huawei has not officially confirmed or refuted anything. But I would personally prefer Honor 9 at this time, the price is not so much higher than Honor 8.
Yeah but I personally don't think we will ever see the Honor 9 in the US. My prediction is that we will get the Honor 8 Pro here in December before Christmas. Just a gut feeling as the Honor 8 name is already so widely known here that it just makes sense that they will feed off the Honor 8 name and release the pro model of next here. I just wonder about the current honor 8 and if it will in fact get more updates.
It Will receive further updates
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It Will receive further updates
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That's good to know. How do you know this for sure though. It's that a definite? There is another thread that talks about the honor will now no longer be receiving updates. Was curious how you knew for sure?
Atm i'm running the B394 rom and on Firmware finder there are already B350, B351 and B135 Roma (all beta) so an update is coming soon.
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Atm i'm running the B394 rom and on Firmware finder there are already B350, B351 and B135 Roma (all beta) so an update is coming soon.
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That's really good to hear. I'm glad to know that. I thought it was the end for the honor 8 to be honest.
Seems like after doing a lot of research on various forums the majority of people say the honor 8 will definitely keep receiving updates for a while to come. That's a very good thing bc I just bought my third honor 8 and this time I plan to keep it long term. I typically go through a lot of phones testing out new gear. I finally decided that the honor 8 is my all time favorite phone which I do not consider EMUI to be Android at all. In fact it's nothing like Android. It's so unique and different I've said many times in the past that EMUI could easily be branded and marketed as a third major mobile software choice in the industry. I believe since they could not be connected to IOS they were forced to be thrown in with Android but it's nothing remotely like pure android at all or what so ever. In fact I find EMUI to be as smooth interface wise as apple IOS where most Android interface with skins are rather choppy and sticky. Not EMUI as it's butter smooth and very fluid. Huawei Honor has definitely created a unique hybrid software that it cannot be compared to anything at all. It's in a league of its own and as soon as they officially entered the US market full blown watch how fast they over take Samsung for the top spot. The interface of the software is a joy to use. Zero lag at all. It's as fluid as IOS so there is no doubt it will fast become the most popular in the Android world if they don't decide to Branch out and brand their own software to be labeled as the third major software choice within the mobile industry. I can't wait until they enter the US market and I believe within two to three years they will be equal too or above Samsung for the top spot world wide. It'll be interesting to watch take place. As long as they stay true to their core roots in terms of pricing with high end budget phones such as the honor 8 and leave the Huawei side as their premium flagship phones there is no way they won't over take Samsung. Huawei honor is deep with their variety of offerings with the likes for example the honor 8 which is a very affordable phone but it indeed has flagship specs and a awesome camera. I hope their next US release for honor is the honor 8 pro. It has a 5.7 inch display and would be a great media phone for movies and YouTube and such. I'd love to have one to rotate out with my honor 8. The reason I believe the honor 8 pro will be their next US honor release is bc the honor 8 is already widely known in the US so it makes sense for them to keep feeding off the honor 8 name and release the pro model next.
Why will Honor 8 not get the Oreo update? It's last year Honor's flagship, every flagship gain two next androids versions at least...
Just what I had been reading on other forums and here lead me to that. I now think it will. I excited to know this now.
I don't know if we will get Oreo. However, in regards to general updates, my FRD-L14 just received the B389 update today. I think it mainly just updates security to the Oct 5th patch, at least it is an update.
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I don't know if we will get Oreo. However, in regards to general updates, my FRD-L14 just received the B389 update today. I think it mainly just updates security to the Oct 5th patch, at least it is an update.
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I sure hope we get Oreo. Technically we should and I really think it would be a bad business decision on Huawei honors part not to give the honor 8 oreo due to how close it is before they enter the US market full blown and officially. They don't want to enter this market on a bad note. Plus this is honors flagship phone for the US. They would loose a ton of US customer support if they choose not to update this phone to Oreo. They didn't climb up to number two in the world based off of bad decisions for their customers so I think we will get it but it will be very late to the party getting it.
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meh! no source release, no bootloader unlock...... nothing of value has been lost! as you can see here, there is little to no custom ROMs so your stuck with EMUI. ill gladly buy a oneplus device over a huawei if there are no other alternatives. thankfully i have decided on the zenfone 6!
Good. Kind of happy. Hope Huawei will go down for not updating C636 device
It's political BS, but Huawei weren't supporting the Honor 8 anyway, so it's not affecting us.
Independent development is a joke, official support is worst... this is just another nail in the coffin. It doesn't matter the reasons, only the end result.
Goodbye Huawei/Honor.
huawei could have been huge in the north america if instead of their closed source chips they used snapdragon chips. sure they spend a bit more but using snapdragon chips also allows huawei to keep their secrets to themselves while giving the rest of us what we want and deserve..... sources! also, i think LG should just **** off already! not allowing bootloader unlocking on hardware that you own is bull****! this should be a law. the right to repair act should cover this kind of thing but here in the US corporate money keeps the govt on their side. if the EU could make this happen it would be amazing!
Should Have been banned 2 years back. Atleast I would not have wasted my money...
Now after just 2 years of usage I have to upgrade. I use most of my phones for 4 years..
How are the Pixel 3a's in comparison to the Honor 8? As far as performance goes?
And can those be rooted? I'm basically happy with my Honor 8 after replacing the battery last month as far as performance goes, but I kind of want security updates and OS updates would be nice too.
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How are the Pixel 3a's in comparison to the Honor 8? As far as performance goes?
And can those be rooted? I'm basically happy with my Honor 8 after replacing the battery last month as far as performance goes, but I kind of want security updates and OS updates would be nice too.
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How much did it all cost you to replace the battery? I am looking forward to replacing mine too.
About $35. I got a kit with tools and a new battery off ifixit. I got an OEM back off ebay, figuring I'd probably crack it talking it off, but ended up not needing it.
Yeah should have been banned before honor 8 release, then many early adopters wouldn't have been conned into buying their crap device.
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Yeah should have been banned before honor 8 release, then many early adopters wouldn't have been conned into buying their crap device.
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what really stings yet makes me laugh is that this device is treble compatible and has not custom ROMs other than the openkirin stuff. other devices are able to boot tons of GSIs but not the honor 8.
im happy that i dont have to deal with EMUI but honestly, omniROM is that much better of a ROM. im sure huawei will work something out eventually but i just hope that their reputation is bombed to hell at least here in north america. maybe they will go back to using snapdragons for us which will give us tons of ROMs and a longer usage life.
They're not going to start using SoCs developed by a third party when they make their own.
I decided to contact Huawei Support to find out what's happening with the MediaPad M5 [US Version - SHT W09 (C567)] upgrade to EMUI 9.0, since it's been perpetually stuck on 8.0.0.196 for many months with seemingly no official way to upgrade. I will say that they do have a very good support team that was quite helpful. Below is the e-mail response that I received.
"This email is to follow-up your inquiry about an update for the MediaPad M5. We would like to draw to your attention that currently, we do not have any information about this update coming to your device. However, please do not be disheartened, we recommend you to stay tuned to our social networks as we will continue publishing relevant information about further updates in there."
Well, many of us users of the SHT W09 (C567)] feel really completely left out by Huawei. I truly hope that I'll see an upgrade to at least EMUI 9.0 for my MediaPad M5, however I may never buy another Huawei device in the future even though they make fantastic devices.
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I got a further bit of information by contacting Huawei via The Twitters:
"Based on the information you kindly provided us, we could verify that your MediaPad M5 is up to date with the last upgrade available. You can be sure that we are working to provide with the best user experience to our customers. That's why we invite you to stay tuned to our official sites, where you can find more news regarding the next updates for your device model."
Based on that response I'm trying to prepare mentally for not getting an update.
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I was quite surprised this morning to see an update notification. All it did was bring the M5 up to July's patch level. Still EMUI 8 with 8.0.0.198 so a minor jump. Still not sure why we can't have at minimum EMUI 9.
I have the same issue with my CMR-AL09, stuck also on 8.0.0.196 (C432) ,
never again huawei ,
The odd thing is there are some users who have gotten 9.0. my only guess is the US ban stopped the rollout hopefully now that it's lifted the rollout will ramp back up.
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The odd thing is there are some users who have gotten 9.0. my only guess is the US ban stopped the rollout hopefully now that it's lifted the rollout will ramp back up.
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The ban hasn't officially been lifted. Either way, Google had a 3 month licence to continue trading with Huawei until end of August iirc.
I have the CMR-W09 (C567) version and I have not got Pie yet. But I am not really that upset. Yes I would like to have Pie, but I can live without it. I bought this tablet knowing that it would upgrade to Pie at some point. If I get Pie or not it is still better than having a Samsung.
I'm in the market for a one-hand tablet (less than 5" width). Are Huawei tablets in the bad books with Google Android, in a wider USA-China context ? I am in Australia, so there is no official ban (yet) on Huawei products, but Huawei was prevented from bidding for a 5G network.
Mediapad M5 seems top, but I'm likely to settle for an M3 8.0 Lite, if it has reasonable chances of being supported by Google Android.
Huawei largely abandoned the US market when political bullying from Trump forced AT&T and Best Buy to drop plans to sell the Mate 10. That phone ended up being dumped at places like Sears, K-Mart and Walmart at steep discounts. The US model Mate 10 received none of the updates that were pushed to all of the non-US models.
Since the political climate has only gotten much worse since the Mate 10 fiasco Huawei doesn't consider the United States a viable market so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for updates.
If software updates are essential to you then you are probably better off getting one of the new Samsung tablets running Android Pie.
Thanks, I'm less concerned about Android updates. But I don't want to end up with a device which has no access (or limited access) to Google Playstore. For example, I'd like to install Microsoft Office 365 which my employer gives us to read company emails. It works great on my Huawei Mate 9.
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I got a further bit of information by contacting Huawei via The Twitters:
"Based on the information you kindly provided us, we could verify that your MediaPad M5 is up to date with the last upgrade available. You can be sure that we are working to provide with the best user experience to our customers. That's why we invite you to stay tuned to our official sites, where you can find more news regarding the next updates for your device model."
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Based on their response I'm trying to prepare mentally for not getting an update.
I know this is a sore point but I'm looking for a new 8" tablet and i want to upgrade from my Z3 compact that has been on Android 6 for a while. Assuming the US Wifi model never gets updated what do people think about their Mediapad devices? Are you still happy with it? It is still worth getting for a 'high' performing media consumption tablet?
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I know this is a sore point but I'm looking for a new 8" tablet and i want to upgrade from my Z3 compact that has been on Android 6 for a while. Assuming the US Wifi model never gets updated what do people think about their Mediapad devices? Are you still happy with it? It is still worth getting for a 'high' performing media consumption tablet?
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Overall it's a great tablet, no real complaints besides the lack of attention to updates on the US WiFi model.
My 10 just received 8.0.0.198 update in the US. That's a decent sign, my hope it's security update/OS prep for the move to 9.0 or 9.1.
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My 10 just received 8.0.0.198 update in the US. That's a decent sign, my hope it's security update/OS prep for the move to 9.0 or 9.1.
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Are you able to download and install? Mine just says download failed
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Are you able to download and install? Mine just says download failed
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I had no issues, it had already downloaded via wifi so all I had to do was hit install, it completed with no issues.
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My 10 just received 8.0.0.198 update in the US. That's a decent sign, my hope it's security update/OS prep for the move to 9.0 or 9.1.
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I got that update today as well but that only adds up to two updates I have received since this tablet was launched. After Huawei abandoned the US Mate 10P it only received some security patch updates which Huawei support told me actually came from Google. It never received any OS bug fixes or feature updates from Huawei. According to the changelog there's nothing in this update other than the July security patch.
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Every day I look for information on sht-w09 567 update and see virtually nothing. I thought that someone would know something. Pretty frustrating that Android 10 beta testing is happening and Huawei gives zero information on 9 update for our tablet.
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Every day I look for information on sht-w09 567 update and see virtually nothing. I thought that someone would know something. Pretty frustrating that Android 10 beta testing is happening and Huawei gives zero information on 9 update for our tablet.
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I am wondering what you are complaining about. There is a company forced to stop (almost) all of their business in the US. How can they (and why even should they) provide updates / introduce new devices? Probably it's the wrong people you are complaining about ...
Huawei has stated that the tablet would get Android 9 update. I think it's been done in every other region. Despite the government pissing contest, how hard would it be for Huawei to release the update for USA? That is my complaint.
@cburd business is halted in US. full stop. Providing a software update is doing business ... in addition something may go wrong during the update -> they need to provide services / a place where you can complain / ... what would you say if your device is updated but (for what ever reason) doesn't work any longer and there is no support you can contact / you can speak to?
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@cburd business is halted in US. full stop. Providing a software update is doing business ... in addition something may go wrong during the update -> they need to provide services / a place where you can complain / ... what would you say if your device is updated but (for what ever reason) doesn't work any longer and there is no support you can contact / you can speak to?
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I thought they were given a 3 month reprieve or even an exception/waiver to consumer type devices?