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EMUI 5.1

Hello guys, I read somewhere (still trying to get the link) that EMUI 5.1 will soon be coming to Mate 9 with 7.1.1.
Anyone with idea if it is true?
Thanks

its true
but from everywhere ive read itll be in the second half of 2017

zayidhs said:
Hello guys, I read somewhere (still trying to get the link) that EMUI 5.1 will soon be coming to Mate 9 with 7.1.1.
Anyone with idea if it is true?
Thanks
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What's new and improved in 5.1?

aknotts415 said:
What's new and improved in 5.1?
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A lot of things including memory management, predictive touch recognition and response, cleaner, faster with smoother transitions and visuals, improved battery consumption management, probably Nougat 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 and more.

zayidhs said:
A lot of things including memory management, predictive touch recognition and response, cleaner, faster with smoother transitions and visuals, improved battery consumption management, probably Nougat 7.1.1 or 7.1.2 and more.
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Is this a fact or just speculation and wish list?

sobelixtus said:
Is this a fact or just speculation and wish list?
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There are a few people who already tested a beta version with 5.1 and reported this. I guess they are telling us the truth.

This is answer from EMUI FB:
Hi Krešimir, EMUI 5.1 will not be offered to devices that have EMUI 5.0, EMUI 4.1 or lower systems for now. Please rest assured that some of the new functions from EMUI 5.1 will be built into a debugged, featured-enhanced version of EMUI 5.0 that will be released after June 2017. Thank you for your understanding and patience. Stay tuned.

kpangercic said:
This is answer from EMUI FB:
Hi Krešimir, EMUI 5.1 will not be offered to devices that have EMUI 5.0, EMUI 4.1 or lower systems for now. Please rest assured that some of the new functions from EMUI 5.1 will be built into a debugged, featured-enhanced version of EMUI 5.0 that will be released after June 2017. Thank you for your understanding and patience. Stay tuned.
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that makes sense since everyone on 5.1 beta currently reports EMUI 5.0 in their about phone

Any idea about the build numbers on those phones?

As long as there are updates, I don't mind EMUI 5.0 ?

kleinhev said:
Any idea about the build numbers on those phones?
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I've seen Chinese betas mentioned with Mate 9 MHA-AL00C00B203-log, B205-log and B206-log.. but these are beta builds and most likely dont resemble any public release build numbers... tho going off the current available update build numbers, seem to be on par.. would assume a final build in the 200 number range would be the new EMUI 5.1 features build (and like mentioned, probably still show 5.0 in about phone).

I don't get it. P10 and Honor V9/8 Pro are on EMUI 5.1 and with the same hardware (Kirin 960 CPU/SOC, etc.) as Mate 9 , but Mate 9 which is flagship device by price and by marketing materials/adds distributed by Huawei is not getting full EMUI 5.1, but just some of the features of it and stays on EMUI 5.0.
Where's the logic in that?

why does some random number matter to you?
If it has all the same features and benefits as 5.1, why would you care if its called 5.0. 5.1 or 69.99999???

wase4711 said:
why does some random number matter to you?
If it has all the same features and benefits as 5.1, why would you care if its called 5.0. 5.1 or 69.99999???
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I don't talk about the number, I was reading that the difference is not only the number. I think that Huawei has stated that we will get SOME of the features of 5.1, not all of them.
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Huawei statement from few post's back:
"Hi Krešimir, EMUI 5.1 will not be offered to devices that have EMUI 5.0, EMUI 4.1 or lower systems for now. Please rest assured that some of the new functions from EMUI 5.1 will be built into a debugged, featured-enhanced version of EMUI 5.0 that will be released after June 2017. Thank you for your understanding and patience. Stay tuned."

we'll just have to be patient and see what shows up..

ytgbg said:
I don't get it. P10 and Honor V9/8 Pro are on EMUI 5.1 and with the same hardware (Kirin 960 CPU/SOC, etc.) as Mate 9 , but Mate 9 which is flagship device by price and by marketing materials/adds distributed by Huawei is not getting full EMUI 5.1, but just some of the features of it and stays on EMUI 5.0.
Where's the logic in that?
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Used to get the same problem with Samsung devices, the S models would come out with a specific BloatWhiz UI and then the Note model would come out a few months after with a newer BloatWhiz UI but the S models would not get an upgrade to that new UI version... rinse repeat for next years models... Same UI version would stick around, but you would get new Android version and Security patches until such time the next model of that Type would get released, then they'd normally hang you out to dry on new major android versions, but get some security patches...
From what I've read on beta stuff tho - we are getting functionality atleast, if not all of 5.1..

Leighm0 said:
Used to get the same problem with Samsung devices, the S models would come out with a specific BloatWhiz UI and then the Note model would come out a few months after with a newer BloatWhiz UI but the S models would not get an upgrade to that new UI version... rinse repeat for next years models... Same UI version would stick around, but you would get new Android version and Security patches until such time the next model of that Type would get released, then they'd normally hang you out to dry on new major android versions, but get some security patches...
From what I've read on beta stuff tho - we are getting functionality atleast, if not all of 5.1..
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There you have it. This is exactly the problem in Android world. If you buy a device from major Android manufacturer, you can be pretty sure that the support will start to slow down when new flag ship device is launched.
2 years is really the maximum support time for Android devices, except for Google Pixel / Nexus devices.
I don't like Apple or the iOS devices but I have to admit that the support in iWorld is in much better shape than in Android world.
I hope this will be addressed in Google level.
Edit. And Huawei is one of the worst manufacturer in what comes to updates. Two updates in 6 months (even security fixes) happens only for new device launched. Then the support will be gradually ramped down and good luck for getting security updates.

sobelixtus said:
There you have it. This is exactly the problem in Android world. If you buy a device from major Android manufacturer, you can be pretty sure that the support will start to slow down when new flag ship device is launched.
2 years is really the maximum support time for Android devices, except for Google Pixel / Nexus devices.
I don't like Apple or the iOS devices but I have to admit that the support in iWorld is in much better shape than in Android world.
I hope this will be addressed in Google level.
Edit. And Huawei is one of the worst manufacturer in what comes to updates. Two updates in 6 months (even security fixes) happens only for new device launched. Then the support will be gradually ramped down and good luck for getting security updates.
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Well.. it's really the manufacturer at fault and shouldn't really fall back on Google as they create the software and it's up to Samsung, Huawei, LG, etc to all support it on their devices so if they choose not to do any future updates then that's their choice.. you can't compare to iOS/Apple because their software is only built for their devices and no other manufacturers can make an iOS based device period, so to that degree you could compare it to the Nexus devices or Pixel which run the vanilla Android and get constant upgrades because that's devices that have no UI slapped on top of it and supported by Google and manufacturer hasn't got to make its own custom update with their UI etc

Leighm0 said:
Well.. it's really the manufacturer at fault and shouldn't really fall back on Google as they create the software and it's up to Samsung, Huawei, LG, etc to all support it on their devices so if they choose not to do any future updates then that's their choice.. you can't compare to iOS/Apple because their software is only built for their devices and no other manufacturers can make an iOS based device period, so to that degree you could compare it to the Nexus devices or Pixel which run the vanilla Android and get constant upgrades because that's devices that have no UI slapped on top of it and supported by Google and manufacturer hasn't got to make its own custom update with their UI etc
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True but you got me wrong
I didn't blame Google for this situation but I hoped that Google would use its muscles to solve the situation.
It is really 3rd party manufacturers fault and they should improve the situation as well.
It's also very common to compare Samsung, LG and Huawei to Apple because they are all trying to sell to same customers.
It is true that Apple is making the HW and SW and that gives a huge lead in integration and updates. However, Google is also providing monthly security updates and it is 3rd party companies responsibility to publish those security updates for their products.
This is not happening currently, or it takes ages to have the update (Huawei)
Owning Google pixel or Nexus is clear advantage, but I would like to see that other manufacturers would concentrate more to serve existing customers.
Sorry for offtopic [emoji52]

sobelixtus said:
True but you got me wrong
I didn't blame Google for this situation but I hoped that Google would use its muscles to solve the situation.
It is really 3rd party manufacturers fault and they should improve the situation as well.
It's also very common to compare Samsung, LG and Huawei to Apple because they are all trying to sell to same customers.
It is true that Apple is making the HW and SW and that gives a huge lead in integration and updates. However, Google is also providing monthly security updates and it is 3rd party companies responsibility to publish those security updates for their products.
This is not happening currently, or it takes ages to have the update (Huawei)
Owning Google pixel or Nexus is clear advantage, but I would like to see that other manufacturers would concentrate more to serve existing customers.
Sorry for offtopic [emoji52]
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Agreed 100% here.. but where I am sitting, I bought my Huawei Mate 9 Pro in Feb, and I know the device was actually out in December, but that aside, I have now managed to pull 2 OTA updates (first when I first turned on the phone at the store installed B139, second was B156 shortly after), and a 3rd is pending authentication (B181, just this weekend) - to me thats quite a few updates.. I don't recall getting 3 updates within first 3-4 months from Samsung when I had my Note 4 (I could be wrong here, but don't recall this amount of OTA from device launch... purchased it within a few weeks of release date, they stopped updating android when Note 5 landed, security updates kept coming tho). I'm more than happy with Huawei so far, and their efforts to release new updates to fix issues people are seeing - tbh I never had many issues and the ones I did have got fixed with the first 2 OTA's.
They do need to work on security fixes and Google should push them to get them out there... case in point - my Samsung Note Pro 12.2 has not had an update in months, and is still on Android 5.1.1, and of course Samsung will not even bother with any new builds, and probably won't get a security update for another 3 months... it's very disappointing that I spent over $1k on a tablet, which will not "officially" run Nougat, tho it probably doesnt need it the device runs perfectly fine as it is - tho we always want the latest and greatest..

What future Android versions will this phone get?

I am new to the Mate 9. So far I used to always run a Nexus device as my daily driver but when my Nexus 6P suffered from a "boot loop of death" I bought a Mate 9 instead.
I am wondering though: Will the Mate 9 ever get to see Android O? Or will Android 7.1 be the max for this phone?
What do you think?

I came from the nexus 6p as well. I fully expected not to get many future updates. I knew this going into the purchase.
I do think Mate 9 gets O but it won't be right away.

I'm already running Android O on it, albeit an internal developer build, so it's definitely coming.

Huawei is not known to keep their phones "up to date".
I ran a Mate2, for over a year on 4.3 JB before they updated it to 5.0LL
I bought a Mate8 in November, and it just received Android 7 last week.
I'm not that concerned though. I know going in, that unless you have an Apple
device, or a Google device, most phone rarely get updates past perhaps one
version. Huawei is no different.

p51d007 said:
Huawei is not known to keep their phones "up to date".
I ran a Mate2, for over a year on 4.3 JB before they updated it to 5.0LL
I bought a Mate8 in November, and it just received Android 7 last week.
I'm not that concerned though. I know going in, that unless you have an Apple
device, or a Google device, most phone rarely get updates past perhaps one
version. Huawei is no different.
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I thought the Mate 8 got Nougat a couple months ago?

aknotts415 said:
I thought the Mate 8 got Nougat a couple months ago?
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Depends on which region you were in, and if you did it "officially" through the built in updater application,
or used something like Firmware finder, or, hacked your way into installing a beta.
I waited for it to hit "officially". Firmware finder never did work, although it did work for some.
I prefer the official channels.

duraaraa said:
I'm already running Android O on it
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Does it include new updated binaries in /vendor/* ?

https://plus.google.com/+PhoneArena/posts/YW3FAJ4Nihj just going to leave this here. You actually heard it from @duraaraa first
Sent from my MHA-L29 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Short answer: It'll get Android O
At least its planned and its on the roadmap, and Huawei engineers are working on it.
Bb

ANDROID O on Honor 8

Honor 8 will receive the android 8 update... here's the confirmation...

Wow thats great news

I have been away from android for like 4-5 years. If I am rooted (bootloader unlocked) on the Honor 8 and there is an update to Oreo, will I get it too, or do I have to go through a different process to get it? Like do I have to unroot and then update, or can I just update?

I hope this is true. Super excited to get Android O )

if Oreo doesnt come, we have Sunny Gusain to blame

myphoneishaunted said:
I have been away from android for like 4-5 years. If I am rooted (bootloader unlocked) on the Honor 8 and there is an update to Oreo, will I get it too, or do I have to go through a different process to get it? Like do I have to unroot and then update, or can I just update?
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I'd say instinctively that you won't get the OTA update, but if you just rooted your phone and kept the stock ROM, you might still get the update, which will most definitely unroot your phone.
Apart from that this is great news! I'm hoping for a more 'official' announcement before getting hyped up though

This is the minimum
The minimum time of updates will be reached only in August 2018, what is almost on year after Google oficial unveil. They are already delayed with security updates.

I called Honor USA and they said they knows nothing about it, he just said all the Huawei device that came last year and this year will probably get it, honor 6x and another upcoming honor(didn't say me the name) will also get it. Unfortunately they knows nothing about honor 8.
Also I contacted huawei saudi and they said YES! Check the screenshot...............

Saeem said:
I called Honor USA and they said they knows nothing about it, he just said all the Huawei device that came last year and this year will probably get it, honor 6x and another upcoming honor(didn't say me the name) will also get it. Unfortunately they knows nothing about honor 8.
Also I contacted huawei saudi and they said YES! Check the screenshot...............
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To be honest, I don't rely on answers from support, until it gets announced on social media, then I'll believe it

PalakMi said:
To be honest, I don't rely on answers from support, until it gets announced on social media, then I'll believe it
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Even I don't. They say different things different times........

Saeem said:
Even I don't. They say different things different times........
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Official Honor International page and EMUI page say that they have the OS and are testing it, actually I think on Mate 9. We have to wait.

SALENTINVM said:
Official Honor International page and EMUI page say that they have the OS and are testing it, actually I think on Mate 9. We have to wait.
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I cannot find it. Would you mind to upload a screenshot or maybe share the link?

I contacted Customer Support and, this is the answer I received from the agent:
- "I want to be honest with you and the information I have is that Honor 8 will not be receiving the update to Oreo."
- "I deeply apologize."

Saeem said:
I cannot find it. Would you mind to upload a screenshot or maybe share the link?
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Here's the screen

luisangelrg said:
I contacted Customer Support and, this is the answer I received from the agent:
- "I want to be honest with you and the information I have is that Honor 8 will not be receiving the update to Oreo."
- "I deeply apologize."
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I don't trust them.

Hell, it's likely that those people don't even work for Huawei. I would just as soon call the grocery store down the street and ask them if my phone will get Oreo.

I read article on gadgetraid about Huawei updates to android Oreo and they mentioned that Honor 8 will be updated to Oreo after all flagship devices of 2017 like Mate 10, P10, Honor 8 Pro. The schedule date for our Honor 8 is still unknown, but until next year is left only 2 months so expect update to android 8 in 2018 on Honor 8 in 8th of let's hope May. :fingers-crossed:

How can i get android 8 for this phone ?

muhidin300 said:
How can i get android 8 for this phone ?
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Not available yet

Why don't they they say no?

Have we got any hope? Why don't they just say no?

Want updates? Get a Google Pixel, Sony XZ or OnePlus. Either factory or 3rd party, there's always some ROM.
As a rule of thumb Chinese (except OnePlus and probably some other) brands take your money and that's the end of story.

Honor 8 will not get Oreo update. Support won't tell you anything about their update policy.

Because they are not sure if they are gonna release Oreo for the Honor 8 or not.

I remember on Honor 6x forums, there is a post saying Honor 6x would get Oreo. If that's true, I don't see why Honor 8 cannot... Maybe HUAWEI hasn't decided whether or not they would build Oreo for more Honor devices.

Common, how naive can someone be? Who believes Huawei/Honor would disclose the update path before just before doing it? It would upset current ownsers.
We just need to look at how the brands I mentioned (plus HMD/Nokia) plan and communicate the updates: they publicly and officially communicate it months before doing it. No ifs or buts. Because it's a strong point in their favour. Not the case of Huawei.
It's clear as water but one might choose to believe in a different thing. Like pigs can fly.
Edit: this is nuts! Oneplus 2 will not receive official Oreo. Honor 7 neither (what a joke) and they were both lunched one month (2015) after the other. OP2 have Lineage R15 (Oreo) working. H7 have :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Snapdragon is the way to go.

jerryhou85 said:
I remember on Honor 6x forums, there is a post saying Honor 6x would get Oreo. If that's true, I don't see why Honor 8 cannot... Maybe HUAWEI hasn't decided whether or not they would build Oreo for more Honor devices.
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They say that they're testing it

zinko_pt said:
Common, how naive can someone be? Who believes Huawei/Honor would disclose the update path before just before doing it? It would upset current ownsers.
We just need to look at how the brands I mentioned (plus HMD/Nokia) plan and communicate the updates: they publicly and officially communicate it months before doing it. No ifs or buts. Because it's a strong point in their favour. Not the case of Huawei.
It's clear as water but one might choose to believe in a different thing. Like pigs can fly.
Edit: this is nuts! Oneplus 2 will not receive official Oreo. Honor 7 neither (what a joke) and they were both lunched one month (2015) after the other. OP2 have Lineage R15 (Oreo) working. H7 have :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Snapdragon is the way to go.
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I don't know the point of hiding everything. Say that you are testing it and we'll know soon, say that there is no hope, but just say something.

The support people know as much as you do on updates. They aren't told so they can't tell anyone else. That way, they aren't involved in any early release tests that they aren't supposed to provide support for.

What's the point of having inhouse processors if you don't optimise and update the device.? I know 2 years worth of updates is too much to ask, but it's been less than an year, and this device already feels abandoned. At the very least be like Xiaomi, update your own EMUI for most phones, if android updates are so big of an ask

Asus and Zenfone 6 commitment to future Android versions

I've read online that the Zenfone 6 will get Android Q and R. Can anyone point me at anything official from Asus to verify this?

fingery said:
I've read online that the Zenfone 6 will get Android Q and R. Can anyone point me at anything official from Asus to verify this?
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Watch the announcement event on YouTube. Should be in there. However it's not uncommon for promises of updates to be broken. Just saying since you seem to be looking for some kind of official confirmation instead of all the media coverage relaying what Asus has said on the matter.

fingery said:
I've read online that the Zenfone 6 will get Android Q and R. Can anyone point me at anything official from Asus to verify this?
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Here you go:
https://youtu.be/VBk8c1oHUcA?t=3468

Trixanity said:
However it's not uncommon for promises of updates to be broken.
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Quoting this for emphasis. Manufacturers have been lying about updates for years.

Any manufacturers promise of long-term support needs to be taken with a tablespoon of salt. They make money selling phones.....they get squat for pushing updates to those phones....In a while they'll get bankrupt unless they sell more. Simple market dynamics 101.

Quite frankly...I believe that the version of Android that was built into the phone is usually the best. Maybe not the best version of Android per-se...but the best for the hardware. So many times I read about people who beg for a new version for their phones only to complain later that the update sucks, and is full of bugs. So I can appreciate if they push Q but as for R...welllllll, that may be just a little too much.

jaseman said:
Quite frankly...I believe that the version of Android that was built into the phone is usually the best. Maybe not the best version of Android per-se...but the best for the hardware.
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That's very true for fat custom skins which deeply changes stock Android look and feel as well as adds new features. Like Samsung' former TouchWiz.
OT: I am using for nearly two years Xiaomi Mi A1 with Android One. It started with Android Nougat 7.1.2, then we were updated to Oreo 8.0, 8.1 and for half an year we have Pie 9. With every Android major version and with every monthly security update the phone is better and better, they steadily eliminate bugs and even add new features which were missing at start (like FM radio app, VoLTE support, etc). I am very happy with it. But despite this there are always users who are not satisfied for example because they have not done their homework about Mi A1 and they say that slim stock Android is worse for them than fat MIUI.