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Android Pay and Custom ROM

Anyone get Android Pay and Custom ROM working on their rooted and customized Nexus 5 ?
Here are the steps I took in order to add cards and get Android Pay functioning on my phone:
- Get the Google Pay APK from here: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/android-pay/android-pay-1-0-102576552-android-apk-download/
- You'll also need an upgrade for Google Play Services, I was not able to get it through Apple Pay, I had to get it from here:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-8-1-14-2244331-238-android-apk-download/
NOTE: have to install Google Play Services that ends in 238 for the N5
Then do the following steps:
- Install Android Pay
- Install Google Play Services
- Clear Data for Android Pay
- Go into SuperSU and unroot
- setup Android Pay
- re-root using SuperSU
So this allowed me to add/manage cards in Android Pay - but some users are getting an error such as:
"MASTERCARD-XXXX can't be used with Android Pay right now " when trying to pay with their phone.
The other item I noted is that after verifying my credit card with the issuing bank - it took several hours (>8) before I received official confirmation that the card was made available for mobile payment.
I'm guessing that it may take a while before the cards are 'activated for mobile payment?
Anyone able to use Android Pay to make a payment on their N5 (rooted, Custom ROM) ?
Note: I'm running on Cataclysm and HellsCore Kernel.

I just received email confirmation from my bank that my card had been added. I did receive verbal confirmation the day I added it, but maybe it takes a few days. The problem now is that I had removed my card and re-added it this morning, before that initial email confirmation came through. Now I don't know if I need to wait for another email confirmation before trying again.

The process worked for me, but I haven't yet tried to make a payment. One note on the steps (although this is probably understood by most who would be going through the process): For re-rooting SuperSU, you may want to clarify this is done by re-installing SuperSU in recovery.

Empty Hand said:
The process worked for me, but I haven't yet tried to make a payment. One note on the steps (although this is probably understood by most who would be going through the process): For re-rooting SuperSU, you may want to clarify this is done by re-installing SuperSU in recovery.
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All I did was turn back on "Enable Superuser" in SuperSU Free - I did not re-install SuperSu in recovery...

luigidk said:
Anyone get Android Pay and Custom ROM working on their rooted and customized Nexus 5 ?
Here are the steps I took in order to add cards and get Android Pay functioning on my phone:
- Get the Google Pay APK from here: http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-...-apk-download/
- You'll also need an upgrade for Google Play Services, I was not able to get it through Apple Pay, I had to get it from here:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-...-apk-download/
NOTE: have to install Google Play Services that ends in 238 for the N5
Then do the following steps:
- Install Android Pay
- Install Google Play Services
- Clear Data for Android Pay
- Go into SuperSU and unroot
- setup Android Pay
- re-root using SuperSU
So this allowed me to add/manage cards in Android Pay - but some users are getting an error such as:
"MASTERCARD-XXXX can't be used with Android Pay right now " when trying to pay with their phone.
The other item I noted is that after verifying my credit card with the issuing bank - it took several hours (>8) before I received official confirmation that the card was made available for mobile payment.
I'm guessing that it may take a while before the cards are 'activated for mobile payment?
Anyone able to use Android Pay to make a payment on their N5 (rooted, Custom ROM) ?
Note: I'm running on Cataclysm and HellsCore Kernel.
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I'm getting that those links are broken/don't work.......
EDIT: I've had the 'Unfortunately, Google Play services has stopped' constantly with any iteration of the Google Play Services update I've downloaded. I just dl'd the 'universal' version 240 from the XDA Developers posting , everything else has worked fine but I'm still getting the service stop error. Anyone have any suggestions on how to get this message to stop? When I go to Manage Apps, there's no option to clear data/uninstall updates, only clear cache and disable (and I don't want to disable it, for sure.)

Joshmccullough said:
I'm getting that those links are broken/don't work.......
EDIT: I've had the 'Unfortunately, Google Play services has stopped' constantly with any iteration of the Google Play Services update I've downloaded. I just dl'd the 'universal' version 240 from the XDA Developers posting , everything else has worked fine but I'm still getting the service stop error. Anyone have any suggestions on how to get this message to stop? When I go to Manage Apps, there's no option to clear data/uninstall updates, only clear cache and disable (and I don't want to disable it, for sure.)
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What device?
Nexus 5 requires either Play services -230 or -238, not -240
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I fixed the links - but if they fail again - just goto http://www.apkmirror.com/ and find the latest android pay and latest google play services (ending in 238) apks - and use those.

Pure Nexus Project, tried the steps in OP as well as trying exposed modules to hide root. I also tried using bootunlocker to lock the BL and change the tamper flag to stock. Still no luck.

RoyJ said:
Pure Nexus Project, tried the steps in OP as well as trying exposed modules to hide root. I also tried using bootunlocker to lock the BL and change the tamper flag to stock. Still no luck.
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Supposedly this Xposed module goes the extra mile, and addresses the real obstacle to Android Pay activation: the new SafetyNet API
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.nodevicecheck
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silvertrain78 said:
What device?
Nexus 5 requires either Play services -230 or -238, not -240
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Yeah, Nexus 5. I'll have to try 230, nothing else has worked so far. 240 was supposed to be a 'universal' GPServices.....I see a commenter above posted something about a new Xposed module, maybe have to give that a shot, too.
EDIT: Looks like v.238 was the trick, no Google Play Services errors so far. Now I just have to test out Android Pay somewhere.
Does anyone know if you have to somehow choose between Android Pay and Google Wallet when using NFC payment at a terminal?

Joshmccullough said:
Yeah, Nexus 5. I'll have to try 230, nothing else has worked so far. 240 was supposed to be a 'universal' GPServices.....I see a commenter above posted something about a new Xposed module, maybe have to give that a shot, too.
EDIT: Looks like v.238 was the trick, no Google Play Services errors so far. Now I just have to test out Android Pay somewhere.
Does anyone know if you have to somehow choose between Android Pay and Google Wallet when using NFC payment at a terminal?
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Glad you got it set. FYI, for Nexus 5 the -230 Play services is universal DPI.
I'm pretty sure at the pos terminal you'll only be able to use Android Pay. It has completely assumed all duties of the old Wallet. If you have a Google Wallet physical card you can add it as an option for Pay, but otherwise Wallet is now just for p2p transactions (like PayPal).
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silvertrain78 said:
Glad you got it set. FYI, for Nexus 5 the -230 Play services is universal DPI.
I'm pretty sure at the pos terminal you'll only be able to use Android Pay. It has completely assumed all duties of the old Wallet. If you have a Google Wallet physical card you can add it as an option for Pay, but otherwise Wallet is now just for p2p transactions (like PayPal).
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Has any one been able to get Android pay to work at a pos?
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silvertrain78 said:
Supposedly this Xposed module goes the extra mile, and addresses the real obstacle to Android Pay activation: the new SafetyNet API
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.nodevicecheck
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Sadly, this still doesn't work.

silvertrain78 said:
What device?
Nexus 5 requires either Play services -230 or -238, not -240
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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Yeah, Nexus 5. Got it fixed and working as noted above, just needed the right Google Play Services update and then the instructions in the OP worked like a charm.
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silvertrain78 said:
Glad you got it set. FYI, for Nexus 5 the -230 Play services is universal DPI.
I'm pretty sure at the pos terminal you'll only be able to use Android Pay. It has completely assumed all duties of the old Wallet. If you have a Google Wallet physical card you can add it as an option for Pay, but otherwise Wallet is now just for p2p transactions (like PayPal).
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I just noticed that the old Google Wallet app was auto-removed at some point from my phone (I had both for a while), now I've just got Android Pay and Google Wallet, so that makes complete sense.
FWIW, when I tried adding my Google Wallet card to Android Pay, I initially got the 'you can't use this on your phone'/root error; just unrooted through SU, added the card, re-rooted, no message. I just have to test it out on a POS terminal somewhere and see how it flies.

Joshmccullough said:
Yeah, Nexus 5. Got it fixed and working as noted above, just needed the right Google Play Services update and then the instructions in the OP worked like a charm.
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I just noticed that the old Google Wallet app was auto-removed at some point from my phone (I had both for a while), now I've just got Android Pay and Google Wallet, so that makes complete sense.
FWIW, when I tried adding my Google Wallet card to Android Pay, I initially got the 'you can't use this on your phone'/root error; just unrooted through SU, added the card, re-rooted, no message. I just have to test it out on a POS terminal somewhere and see how it flies.
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What ROM are you using?
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Not working at POS
Finally had an opportunity to use Android Pay at a Whole Foods POS.
Touched my phone to the card reader - and Android Pay popped up - with my default credit card.
Then - I got the dreaded: "Visa-xxxx can't work with Android Pay right now" message.
Seems this is a common issue - so it looks like we'll have to wait a bit for this to work.
I'll continue to try it at places that accept Android Pay - and will update accordingly.
NOTE: one thing was apparent... for me the experience of using my phone to pay - is no better an experience (probably more clunky) - than merely swiping my credit card - which I can probably get out of my pocket and swipe, faster than getting out my phone, unlocking it and positioning it on the reader.
Perhaps the security promises with Android Pay will trump a mag stripe card... but from a user experience standpoint... not that great.

silvertrain78 said:
What ROM are you using?
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Cataclysm ROM, most recent version.
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luigidk said:
Finally had an opportunity to use Android Pay at a Whole Foods POS.
Touched my phone to the card reader - and Android Pay popped up - with my default credit card.
Then - I got the dreaded: "Visa-xxxx can't work with Android Pay right now" message.
Seems this is a common issue - so it looks like we'll have to wait a bit for this to work.
I'll continue to try it at places that accept Android Pay - and will update accordingly.
NOTE: one thing was apparent... for me the experience of using my phone to pay - is no better an experience (probably more clunky) - than merely swiping my credit card - which I can probably get out of my pocket and swipe, faster than getting out my phone, unlocking it and positioning it on the reader.
Perhaps the security promises with Android Pay will trump a mag stripe card... but from a user experience standpoint... not that great.
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Are you rooted, hence the 'didn't work' problem, or it's just plain not working right now?
Yeah, I've putzed around with the original Google Wallet/NFC payment a few times and I found the same thing was true: it's about as much hassle, maybe even more, as using a regular credit or debit card. At least with the cards you know they're going to work, barring some major snafu; with Google Wallet/Android Pay, maybe the place you're at doesn't accept it as payment, maybe the card vendor isn't on-board with Android Pay yet, maybe your phone's rooted and it doesn't work to begin with, etc. I like the idea of having multiple cards available to use with Google Pay, so I can choose which one I want to use at any given time, but I think there's also a lot of barriers to making phone-based payment the default method of payment for people.
EDIT: Well, initial swing and a miss; I had my Google Wallet card set as the default card to use with Android Pay, and got a message saying that the Google Wallet card wasn't able to be used with Android Pay at this time. I was at McDonald's for lunch and if there wasn't a big line behind me I'd have taken time to switch cards and try again, but as it was I froze up and just went with a physical card. I didn't get a 'you're using a rooted phone, you hAxx0rZ!!!! Stop trying to overthrow capitalism and steal Bitcoins, anarchist!!!' error message, at least, so that's a good thing.

Doing more research on this - there seems to be strong evidence that Android Pay won't work on a rooted/custom rom phone.
Lots of speculation as to whether it is related to an unlocked bootloader, root, custom rom, or some combination...
Has anyone tried this on vanilla N5 ?

I'm using stock and I have play services 238 the latest one and Android pay still says "Google play services have stopped" what do I do?

Here's a thought: maybe it's a server-side activation, and that's why it doesn't work for rooted users who temporarily disable superuser when attempting to add a card?
That's the only thing I can think to explain why some users are able to unroot and flip the switch, while others can't
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Used Shield Portable has error code 190 with Google Play Store

Cross-posted from General Q&A as suggested:
Two days ago I received a used Nvidia Shield Portable that I won on eBay. It is bootloader unlocked and on the last official OTA, but otherwise stock. It was unable to complete the network connection test, which I eventually skipped. Oddly, the Google Play Store app (as well as Google Play Services) was seemingly not installed. I wound up installing the latest APKs of each from APKMirror via Chrome. I then discovered that the HOSTS file was outdated, so I rooted my device, then used a root explorer app to delete said HOSTS file so it could regenerate with good data. It now connects to the Google servers fine, and it is at this point that I am struggling with Play Store\Services error code 190. The last thing I tried was to move the folders of said core apps from the internal data to root and attempt to make them system apps. I gave both of them every permission under the sun, but even after rebooting, i'm not sure that the move and permission granting stuck. I think my issue has to do with app permissions and\or or authentication between my device and Google's infrastructure. Finally, if a custom ROM is the best route, i'm totally cool with that.
Please advise.

I recently did a factory reset of my Shield., which has Android 4.4.2. The stock play store that comes with it needing updating before I could use it. It updated automatically once I signed in to Google. I have a working back up of the Google Play Store and Services. after the update. They should work for Lollipop, but not sure. I can upload them if you want.
Just curious, how much did your Shield cost on eBay?

$110 with shipping.

I managed to fix my device by flashing the last Nvidia OTA manually. Everything that was broken before seems peachy now.
Thanks anyway, I appreciate it.

[GUIDE] How to fix Google Play system update not updating or being stuck

Hello. I have seen lots of complaints regarding Google Play system update being stuck, and no further updates being offered at all.
After researching, I discovered a splendidly simple solution—logging out all but one Google account on the phone, clearing Google Play services data, and trying again.
The Main Components APK that other threads suggest is malicious. Do not install such APKs.​Threads are suggesting installing an APK called "Main Components", saying that it'll update your device. Do not believe such claims—all it does is change the date shown on your phone. It's very small and does not require restarting to install, proving the ineffectiveness of this app. It also causes versioning issues and incompatibility, and in extreme cases, will brick your device.
In case you have already installed the app, uninstall it immediately via the following ADB command:
adb uninstall com.google.android.modulemetadata
Fixing the Google Play system update​STEP 1: Update Google Play services to the latest version.​
Spoiler: Update Google Play services to the latest version
On your phone, open this page with the Google Play Store, then tap on "Update". If that button does not show up, then Google Play services is updated already.
STEP 2: Leave only one Google account signed in on your phone.​
Spoiler: Leave only one Google account signed in on your phone
If you have more than one Google account signed in on your phone, sign out the other accounts and leave the one you often use. Make sure that this account is not a Personal Account (not from your school/work).
For instructions on how to see the accounts on your device and to sign out them, see here.
STEP 3: Clear Google Play services' data and restart the phone.​
Spoiler: Clear Google Play services' data and restart the phone
Note: Do not uninstall updates of Google Play services.
Important: When you clear Google Play Services data or storage, it may delete some information saved to your device, including transit cards, COVID cards, and virtual payment cards saved to Google Pay.
On your Android phone or tablet, open the Settings app.
Tap Apps > See all apps. Note that you do not need to tap "See all apps" on Samsung devices.
Scroll down and tap "Google Play Services."
Tap Storage > Clear Cache.
Tap Manage Space > Clear all Data. Note that "Manage Space" is called "Manage Storage" instead on Samsung devices.
Restart your device.
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STEP 4: Check for Google Play system updates again and hope for the best.​
Spoiler: Check for Google Play system updates again and hope for the best
Now go check for Google Play system updates again. There should be an update, follow the prompts to download and install it. After installation, it should prompt you to restart. If not, tap on "Check for updates" again and it shall prompt you to restart. After restarting, check if the update was successfully installed. If yes, congrats, you have successfully updated!

Not work or help.

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Not work or help.
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Sorry to hear that. Can you detail step-by-step how you followed the guide, and on which Play system update level (the date) are you currently on?

Make what you write. I have May.

Hot-Proton said:
Make what you write. I have May.
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I have used this guide to fix my phone stuck on March 2022, and it was upgraded to May 2022. The June update has not yet been rolled out to most phones for now.

Pixel Phones get June and i have a Pixel 6.

Hot-Proton said:
Pixel Phones get June and i have a Pixel 6.
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Oh, I have a Samsung phone and Samsung phones often receive updates later, maybe that's why I'm still on May.
Maybe there's a different problem on your phone, have you updated the firmware to the latest version?

I am on latest firmware. You write "Main Components APK that other threads suggest is malicious" But how do you know that? apkmirror.com dont share malicious!

Hot-Proton said:
You write "Main Components APK that other threads suggest is malicious" But how do you know that? apkmirror.com dont share malicious!
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Not malicious in a malware sense, but it causes further problems and is useless, unless if you want to fool yourself into some placebo update.

Hot-Proton said:
I am on latest firmware. You write "Main Components APK that other threads suggest is malicious" But how do you know that? apkmirror.com dont share malicious!
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That apk doesn't do no harm to your phone but it doesn't do any good also; it only changes the date.

For me this process does nothing. I already tried lot of methods without luck. My phone had no issues on Android 10 but after Android 11 the Google Play System update went nuts, I use only one Google account. I tried to factory reset the phone, clearing data/cache for Play Store, Play Services (updated), going to Safe mode and clear these data/caches but nothing works. I tried to go beta for Google Play Services but no luck. It is just frustrating because I not modified the ROM of the phone and the Unihertz manufacturer cant help me, I also reported this issue several times to Google Support, but the best effort was from them to ask videos about the issue. I got no response after my report. This is just nuts from Google, seriously unprofessional. They marketed the Android 10,11 with this update, to provide basic security updates for every phone and they cannot provide it at all for lot of users facing this issue. You can search about this and this is independent from manufacturers, the issue is in Android 11 probably.

Tried this myself.
Still on June 2022 Play Update on Android 12.
I expected July at least. And August should also be out any moment now.

How can you call com.google.android.modulemetadata aka main components as malicious? It is one of the component introduced as project mainline. Have some research before posting,
Project Mainline - https://www.xda-developers.com/android-project-mainline-modules-explanation/
Module Metadata aka Main Components - https://source.android.com/docs/core/architecture/modular-system/metadata
When you install this to system, it parse information from playstore/services apk since google push the system updates through playstore and services apk (latest here) and updates the same in the UI. Installing this won't install system updates but it shows the right system version you are on. Works only with devices showing wrong system update due to a factory reset.
I know you are trying to help, but make sure to use the right wordings.
Thanks!

How to disable automatic updates? After update my Xiaomi Mi A2 with Android 13 Port from Pixel 5 freezing and overheating.
If i delete /data/apex/ folder and reboot everything works fine.

This issue is certainly after Android 11 and 12, the downgrade to Android 10 solved the issue for me, with Android 10 the Google Play System Update works flawlessly. Also the Android 11 has GUI performance, high cpu usage and battery drain issues. Unnaceptable from today standards, I hope one day I can get a good Android device that works just fine.

I'm on Android 13 and this didn't help me. I'm still on June 22, and there's even October already available.

It's now almost November 2022 - Google Has Failed To Resolve The Problem. And this issue started after May 1st 2021.
I have a 5g Nokia and T-Mobile. This guessing game gives me the chills - like some victim in a twisted B rated film's plot about a blackout that selects randomly targets made to be blind for no reason at all.
The only tip I've got is T-Mobile Apps are not working with the newer Google Play Services system updates???

Galaxy s22 ultra here with Android 13 and November security patch but my Google system update is stuck on July 2022. These steps outlined doesn't do anything.

Jaysmith696 said:
Galaxy s22 ultra here with Android 13 and November security patch but my Google system update is stuck on July 2022. These steps outlined doesn't do anything.
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I am in the same exact situation
What we can do?

Jaysmith696 said:
Galaxy s22 ultra here with Android 13 and November security patch but my Google system update is stuck on July 2022. These steps outlined doesn't do anything.
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Same here.

Amazon Fire HD 8 (2022, 12th gen.) - Disabling System Apps

I bought an Amazon Fire HD 8 and a HD 8 Plus (12 gen. 2022) during the Black Friday sales. Both were running the original firmware, OS 8.3.1.1 out of the box. When the HD 8 (2020) was updated to OS 7.3.2.2, Amazon blocked the ability to stop system apps from being disabled. This is not the case with OS 8.3.1.1 on the 2022 model. If you enable developer options and USB debugging, then open an ADB shell on an attached PC and run the following command
Code:
pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
this disables OTA firmware updates. This also works for other system apps (e.g. com.amazon.kindle.kso) so you can disable the lockscreen ads.
I presume they blocked this in later versions (8.3.1.2 and 8.3.1.3): it would be interesting to know if this is the case?
Also, blocking OTA updates prevents Amazon stock apps from being updated. If someone could send me a link to the latest versions of Amazon system webview, Amazon Shopping and Amazon Appstore apps for the 12th gen. HD 8 I would be grateful.

HOLY CRAP - such news about the latest Amazon tab allowing privileged access to system apps only got 152 views in a week?! similar news a few years back would have generate a few pages of replies!!
put it in another way - for $55, u get a hexa-core tab w/ 2GB RAM and 8" HD display AND Amazon is allowing u to disable its annoying system apps OUT-OF-BOX!
Amazon has had launch-day bugs before like the Fire HD 10 2019 was launched w/o blocking mtk-su hack even though Amazon had the patch months ago. That gave temporary root access to tabs at launch. This one seems to be even worse (or better ) because u get access out-of-box.
What is the big deal u ask? the privileged access let u disable all annoying Amazon apps like lock-screen ads, silk browser n fire launcher. u can disable them n replace w/ chrome brower n nova launcher.
Checking on Amazon firmware update page here - current firmware for Fire HD 8 2022 has been updated to 8.3.1.2. according to internet archive, 8.3.1.1 for Fire HD 8 2022 was never released on that page. so buying the tab now and disabling the update app is the only way to keep 8.3.1.1.
if anyone else has bought the tab, please check the firmware ver. would be VERY interesting to see if this access has been removed in 8.3.1.2. this is enticing enough that i may consider buying one to play.
@MontysEvilTwin - the webview n appstore for FireOS are different from the Android versions on Play store so i think u have to extract the individual apk files from the update package.
edit: look around on the web - no one has mentioned access to sys apps. but the newest firmware is 8.3.1.3 n u may need it if u wanna sideload Play store.

@MontysEvilTwin -- Thank you for the tip! Worked great!
@newnewcomputer -- Just purchased a Fire HD 8 2022, arrived yesterday. I skipped the setup process. It's still sitting at v8.3.1.1 with a build date of July 14th, 2022.
Update: Just tried running fire toolbox v30.1 and it seems like it worked! The only remaining Amazon junk is the 'Amazon Alexa' app, 'Amazon Kids' app, and the 'Silk Browser' but everything else is gone. Running Nova launcher and the play store is installed.

jmtyra said:
@MontysEvilTwin -- Thank you for the tip! Worked great!
@newnewcomputer -- Just purchased a Fire HD 8 2022, arrived yesterday. I skipped the setup process. It's still sitting at v8.3.1.1 with a build date of July 14th, 2022.
Update: Just tried running fire toolbox v30.1 and it seems like it worked! The only remaining Amazon junk is the 'Amazon Alexa' app, 'Amazon Kids' app, and the 'Silk Browser' but everything else is gone. Running Nova launcher and the play store is installed.
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I have had problems with Play store. It installs OK and most things seem fine at first (I found that Calendar crashes when you set it up and that Chrome will not sync) but after a while some apps start crashing, e.g. Opera and Edge browsers. The problem seems to be with Google Play Services. If anyone could let me know how they achieved a stable Play store installation I would be grateful.

The play store was acting strange at first, but then it let me sign in and download an app. Can't share much for the experience though because the app in question (Fully Kiosk) gave a warning about not using the play store and to sideload an APK instead. So I removed the play store in the biggest irony and didn't have it going for very long.

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I have had problems with Play store. It installs OK and most things seem fine at first (I found that Calendar crashes when you set it up and that Chrome will not sync) but after a while some apps start crashing, e.g. Opera and Edge browsers. The problem seems to be with Google Play Services. If anyone could let me know how they achieved a stable Play store installation I would be grateful.
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I had problems adding an initial account so couldnt download anything. In the end I gave the play store all the permissions it asked for (it originally had no permissions) and since then it has worked fine. I can add multiple accounts, and all apps seem to be stable. Once I have the tab setup, I will likely revoke these permissions, but it will only be used as a media device, so nothing sensitive on it.
@newnewcomputer purchased just before black friday from UK, still running 8.3.1.1

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@newnewcomputer purchased just before black friday from UK, still running 8.3.1.1
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@newnewcomputer -- Just purchased a Fire HD 8 2022, arrived yesterday. I skipped the setup process. It's still sitting at v8.3.1.1 with a build date of July 14th, 2022.
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Thank you for the reports @jmtyra and @yetiuk ! I opted for a Fire HD 10 2021 and it will arrive on Monday. Will disable wifi n see which rev. hopefully it is at 8.3.1.1
really curious to see if the ADB access to disabling system apps remains in 8.3.1.2 and 8.3.1.3
@MontysEvilTwin everything else to fix Play first but as a last resort, seems like a lot of ppl updated to 8.3.1.3 and that fixes the issues w/ Google Play. good luck!

newnewcomputer said:
Thank you for the reports @jmtyra and @yetiuk ! I opted for a Fire HD 10 2021 and it will arrive on Monday. Will disable wifi n see which rev. hopefully it is at 8.3.1.1
really curious to see if the ADB access to disabling system apps remains in 8.3.1.2 and 8.3.1.3
@MontysEvilTwin everything else to fix Play first but as a last resort, seems like a lot of ppl updated to 8.3.1.3 and that fixes the issues w/ Google Play. good luck!
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Unfortunately it is only the 12th generation, 2022 tablets, the Fire 7 and Fire HD 8 that come with OS 8 installed, the Fire HD 10 will come with OS 7. After OS 7.3.2.1 Amazon stopped system apps being from being disabled with a simple ADB command.
I am not keen to update from OS 8.3.1.1 to 8.3.1.3 until I know if Amazon have blocked system apps from being disabled with this update.

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Unfortunately it is only the 12th generation, 2022 tablets, the Fire 7 and Fire HD 8 that come with OS 8 installed, ...
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thanx, @MontysEvilTwin - u are right of course. dont know what i was thinking as it was right on the Amazon firmware page stating which tab gets what version
my fire HD 10 2021 arrived w/ OS 7.3.2.4 n was locked down tight; no elevated access thro' ADB and mtk-su patched. i loaded up on the 2019 tabs w/ 7.3.1.0 so will probably return this one. perhaps Amazon will put the HD8 2022 on sale over the holidays!

Great news! I've recently got a 12th gen Fire HD 8 and updated to the latest firmware (8.3.1.3). I am able to confirm that disabling apps using an adb command still works just fine, I was able to disable com.amazon.kindle.kso and prime music and they haven't been reenabled by a reboot, at least so far.

maximus9793 said:
Great news! I've recently got a 12th gen Fire HD 8 and updated to the latest firmware (8.3.1.3). I am able to confirm that disabling apps using an adb command still works just fine, I was able to disable com.amazon.kindle.kso and prime music and they haven't been reenabled by a reboot, at least so far.
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Thank YOU, @maximus9793 !!
I read somewhere that 8.3.1.3 is the firmware with fixes to allow Google Play Store to run smoothly. So ADB still has access to disable system apps after the update, then that is great news indeed!
It is a personal choice - keep getting firmware update or disable update so as to keep ADB access. But if you want to disable Amazon auto firmware update, run the following commands:
pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
enjoy

Hi all....i need serious help!! Christmas Eve and i decide to setup my nephews Amazon Fire 8 which i bought in Black Friday sales. He is obsessed with youtube kids and before i purchased the tablet i double checked that i could download these files. He currently has the worlds oldest ipad so wanted to upgrade him..
Got the toolbox downloaded as the APK files didnt work.....almost kissed my laptop when it said that all google services were downloaded. HOWEVER, it now says it won't let me run without google play services...WHICH is showing as downloaded on the toolbox?!?!
I've been at this 3 hours now......please help!! What can i do so these apps will work? I've even logged into the play store with my google I.D!

newnewcomputer said:
Thank YOU, @maximus9793 !!
But if you want to disable Amazon auto firmware update, run the following commands:
pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
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My son got the HD 8 Pro Kids to christmas eve. It runs 8.3.1.3 and now I want to try to install play store with the fire toolbox. Also I want to disable OTA with the commands you pointed to.
Am I right, that the process is reversible and OTA can be activated again by following commands?
pm enable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm enable-user --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Maybe @MontysEvilTwin also can confirm this?
Edit: I think that this is the right configuration?
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tito_puente said:
My son got the HD 8 Pro Kids to christmas eve. It runs 8.3.1.3 and now I want to try to install play store with the fire toolbox. Also I want to disable OTA with the commands you pointed to.
Am I right, that the process is reversible and OTA can be activated again by following commands?
pm enable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
pm enable-user --user 0 com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota
Maybe @MontysEvilTwin also can confirm this?
Edit: I think that this is the right configuration?
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To disable OTA updates the only command you need is:
Code:
pm disable-user --user 0 com.amazon.device.software.ota
after connecting your Fire tablet to a PC and opening an ADB shell. To re-enable OTA updates the command is:
Code:
pm enable com.amazon.device.software.ota
OTA updates will then work again without even a reboot.

LozzaScoobs said:
Hi all....i need serious help!! Christmas Eve and i decide to setup my nephews Amazon Fire 8 which i bought in Black Friday sales. He is obsessed with youtube kids and before i purchased the tablet i double checked that i could download these files. He currently has the worlds oldest ipad so wanted to upgrade him..
Got the toolbox downloaded as the APK files didnt work.....almost kissed my laptop when it said that all google services were downloaded. HOWEVER, it now says it won't let me run without google play services...WHICH is showing as downloaded on the toolbox?!?!
I've been at this 3 hours now......please help!! What can i do so these apps will work? I've even logged into the play store with my google I.D!
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Which version of the firmware is running on the Fire8?

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Which version of the firmware is running on the Fire8?
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The HD 8 (2022) tablets I bought during the black Friday offers came with OS 8.3.1.1. At the moment, if you let the tablets update, they install version 8.3.1.3 (a later version of 8.3.1.3 than you can download from the Amazon Fire software update site (software build date 21st November 2022). This version, as discussed in this thread, works with Google Play and still allows system apps to be disabled. I presume that at some point Amazon will push an update that stops system apps being disabled.

MontysEvilTwin said:
The HD 8 (2022) tablets I bought during the black Friday offers came with OS 8.3.1.1. At the moment, if you let the tablets update, they install version 8.3.1.3 (a later version of 8.3.1.3 than you can download from the Amazon Fire software update site (software build date 21st November 2022). This version, as discussed in this thread, works with Google Play and still allows system apps to be disabled. I presume that at some point Amazon will push an update that stops system apps being disabled.
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Yes. That is why I asked LozzaScoobs which version was running for him. If he's still on 8.3.1.1 then the problem sound be easily solved by going to 8.3.1.3!

Hi, can anyone tell which features of Fire Toolbox v30.2 doesn't work on Amazon Fire HD 8 2022 (12th Gen)?

On the Amazon software download site, OS 8.3.1.4 is now available for download. Presumably if you have not disabled 'com.amazon.device.software.ota' this update is being pushed to HD 8, 12th. generation tablets now. If your tablet has updated to this version, please could you post to let me know if anything significant has changed, and if you can still disable system apps. over ADB. Thanks.

That would be nice to know. Can somebody proof if disabling system apps is still possible?

Question Stuck at December update

I bought my phone in USA but living in Europe now. My latest update is December. Is it normal? I tried to use a vpn USA server, still no update. Any idea?
Thanks

Hi, it's not normal and normal at the same time apparently. This has been posted before, search for more info. I didn't get updates for a while and then, after deleting play system/services related data I got 7 updates in a row, both security, play store and os updates. Had to invoke them manually each time.

Thank you @blackspp . Any detailed process name that you deleted the data please? I deleted play store data but nothing yet...
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Hi, it's not normal and normal at the same time apparently. This has been posted before, search for more info. I didn't get updates for a while and then, after deleting play system/services related data I got 7 updates in a row, both security, play store and os updates. Had to invoke them manually each time.
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I always delete all Google play* data, that's it.
Did the same thing yesterday after which I received the feb security update.

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blackspp said:
I always delete all Google play* data, that's it.
Did the same thing yesterday after which I received the feb security update.
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It doesn't work for me. So strange. I will try to install the latest beta manually. Thanks so much though.