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Google rolling 2.3.4 out (Samsung) could this be what T-Mobile said...

"won't have to wait long for??"
Think we'll get this instead of 2.3.3? (Adds video chat to Google Talk, so most likely not on the Nexus One).
ref: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...e-video-chat-no-need-to-wait-until-google-io/

ilanad said:
"won't have to wait long for??"
Think we'll get this instead of 2.3.3? (Adds video chat to Google Talk, so most likely not on the Nexus One).
ref: http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...e-video-chat-no-need-to-wait-until-google-io/
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"carl" seems to think so..... but my guess is sense its tmobile we will get 2.3.3 in july-august (even though they say june/soon)
and wont see 2.3.4 till mid fall....
but ill give a 9/10 for wishful thinking

Maybe not officially but CM7 will have this and other unofficial roms.
I'd rather get frequent steppings and options then 1 upgrade in a year.

nate420 said:
"carl" seems to think so..... but my guess is sense its tmobile we will get 2.3.3 in july-august (even though they say june/soon)
and wont see 2.3.4 till mid fall....
but ill give a 9/10 for wishful thinking
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Maybe so, but since they specifically say it's for video chat (ie. front facing camera) would make sense it would hit the G2x sooner rather than later (yes, yes, I know, I said "Make Sense" in regard to a Carrier). Would also explain why the G2X didn't hit with 2.3.3 with 2.3.4 in the wings.
Note: Google Tweet says this is heading to the Nexus One also
http://twitter.com/#!/googlenexus/status/63707554831806464
Android 2.3.4 OTA rolling out over the next few weeks! Has bug fixes for Nexus One, video chat for Nexus S. But a surprise is still to come!

I have trouble understanding why people complain about not getting updates.
You purchase a phone with specific version....why is update required?
I think updates for bug fixes are required but fixes for improved features....not so much...
In that case I should call honda our chevy to get my updates....
In some cases the updates are promised in which case it should be given on schedule but when its not promised....just be glad they aren't charging for them like apple......

I don't see anyone "complaining" about not getting updates. It was a simple musing on an announcement.

androph said:
I have trouble understanding why people complain about not getting updates.
You purchase a phone with specific version....why is update required?
I think updates for bug fixes are required but fixes for improved features....not so much...
In that case I should call honda our chevy to get my updates....
In some cases the updates are promised in which case it should be given on schedule but when its not promised....just be glad they aren't charging for them like apple......
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There's sort of an expectation when it comes to software that you'll get updates for at least 12 months after purchase. Maybe not new software outright, but at least be up to date with whats current.
But even then, this phone would benefit hugely from a software update and I do think it's up to Tmobile and LG to fix a few of the launch issues.

androph said:
I have trouble understanding why people complain about not getting updates.
You purchase a phone with specific version....why is update required?
I think updates for bug fixes are required but fixes for improved features....not so much...
In that case I should call honda our chevy to get my updates....
In some cases the updates are promised in which case it should be given on schedule but when its not promised....just be glad they aren't charging for them like apple......
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No one was complaining, they were just speculating. Also, upon release the g2x was already "behind" in it's os version compared to some other phones, which creates even more of an expectation for a timely release of a new version.
Also, are you really from the camp where you expect NO additional features stemming from updates for your phone? If that is the case, you probably would be better off with a *phone.

androph said:
I have trouble understanding why people complain about not getting updates.
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There's a difference between "wanting" one and "needing" one. This phone is buggy as crap. I'd love Gingerbread but I'd settle for:
- Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and a radio that get along.
- Bluetooth that remembers profiles.
- Not getting random reboots.
- Faster 4G than my old G2.
- A signal indicator that displays what the phone's actually doing.
There's more, but you get the idea.

androph said:
I have trouble understanding why people complain about not getting updates.
You purchase a phone with specific version....why is update required?
I think updates for bug fixes are required but fixes for improved features....not so much...
In that case I should call honda our chevy to get my updates....
In some cases the updates are promised in which case it should be given on schedule but when its not promised....just be glad they aren't charging for them like apple......
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Probably because in most cases you have to sign up for a 2 year contract, which is like 5 years in techland. But that's just me.

Just an FYI, Google pushed the source and binaries for 2.3.4 to ASOP a little while ago.. and the signed update.zip for Samsung is available for direct download.
Sooner than we think may really be sooner than we think.
Sent from my beast, the T-Mobile G2x

ilanad said:
Just an FYI, Google pushed the source and binaries for 2.3.4 to ASOP a little while ago.. and the signed update.zip for Samsung is available for direct download.
Sooner than we think may really be sooner than we think.
Sent from my beast, the T-Mobile G2x
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With the code now in ASOP, I would imagine that it will be a part of the CM7 build that finally gets released for us.

May Security Update but not 8.1

According to miui forum page, it says that the May security update did not come with 8.1. ?
Source ; https://c.mi.com/thread-1059592-1-0.html

ozgurubuntu said:
According to miui forum page, it says that the May security update did not come with 8.1. ?
Source ; https://c.mi.com/thread-1059592-1-0.html
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Yes, it's true.
They took almost one month for an 80 MB update, and today, 20 May, it's not released for all users but only for a bit of them.
It's really...normal .
Enjoy your update

So what?

Xiaomi is cheating on us. This is really bullsh*t, it is Android One phone and should get NEWEST android ASAP. Im starting to hate Xiaomi.

TrueMS said:
Xiaomi is cheating on us. This is really bullsh*t, it is Android One phone and should get NEWEST android ASAP. Im starting to hate Xiaomi.
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It is no crap, unless you show me a contract you signed in which it says they have to Release it in x months after it is publicly available.
Or show me a device starting with nougat which already has it.
Other than that people would complain if it has bugs. With Samsung, the note 8 hasn't even got 8.0 yet because it is too buggy.
So basically your post is bulls*** as we almost always get our security updates in the same month. Galaxy s9 is still on February afaik. Besides that 8.1 is still Oreo and not really worth that much anyway. Then again if it helps yourself with whining keep going but don't annoy others with it

Well it is kinda the point of Andoid One to always be up to date. Without all the manufacturer crap this should really be faster.

lolmensch said:
It is no crap, unless you show me a contract you signed in which it says they have to Release it in x months after it is publicly available.
Or show me a device starting with nougat which already has it.
Other than that people would complain if it has bugs. With Samsung, the note 8 hasn't even got 8.0 yet because it is too buggy.
So basically your post is bulls*** as we almost always get our security updates in the same month. Galaxy s9 is still on February afaik. Besides that 8.1 is still Oreo and not really worth that much anyway. Then again if it helps yourself with whining keep going but don't annoy others with it
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S9+ currently at April security update, Android 8.0.0. Still no signs of May update & 8.1 too. ?

TrueMS said:
Xiaomi is cheating on us. This is really bullsh*t, it is Android One phone and should get NEWEST android ASAP. Im starting to hate Xiaomi.
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S9+ currently at April security update, Android 8.0.0. Still no signs of May update & 8.1 too.
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Is not an android one phone

The late updates have been going on five months now. How come you're still using your phones? Sell it and get something else ?

dancress said:
Well it is kinda the point of Andoid One to always be up to date. Without all the manufacturer crap this should really be faster.
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Is not an android one phone
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Nope.
The point of Android One is to have an android version closer to the specifications of Google, meaning zero or very little customization from the manufacturer.
Has nothing to do with updates. If you want updates, buy a Pixel.
Most devices are abandoned even before they are available to buy, and you complain because you have May update in... May?
What are you going to do with 8.1 that's so important? Besides, it's coming! We already have a beta for it. So what's the big deal?
Go buy a Motorola phone and enjoy 0 updates.

bornlivedie said:
Nope.
The point of Android One is to have an android version closer to the specifications of Google, meaning zero or very little customization from the manufacturer.
Has nothing to do with updates. If you want updates, buy a Pixel.
Most devices are abandoned even before they are available to buy, and you complain because you have May update in... May?
What are you going to do with 8.1 that's so important? Besides, it's coming! We already have a beta for it. So what's the big deal?
Go buy a Motorola phone and enjoy 0 updates.
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Each update that comes just changes Build No. And security patch date, you can't feel any changes expect that. Whats the point of such updates, they Fu*king just don't release a changelog, so only they the the changes they did.
I had moto G3, it had got 6.0.1 and got security patch till April 17, i don't know which Moto phone you are talking about.

lolmensch said:
It is no crap, unless you show me a contract you signed in which it says they have to Release it in x months after it is publicly available.
Or show me a device starting with nougat which already has it.
Other than that people would complain if it has bugs. With Samsung, the note 8 hasn't even got 8.0 yet because it is too buggy.
So basically your post is bulls*** as we almost always get our security updates in the same month. Galaxy s9 is still on February afaik. Besides that 8.1 is still Oreo and not really worth that much anyway. Then again if it helps yourself with whining keep going but don't annoy others with it
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Fully agree with you, bro.

Ritik99 said:
Each update that comes just changes Build No. And security patch date, you can't feel any changes expect that. Whats the point of such updates, they Fu*king just don't release a changelog, so only they the the changes they did.
I had moto G3, it had got 6.0.1 and got security patch till April 17, i don't know which Moto phone you are talking about.
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What should they do? It is a monthly security patch update... Seems like u want a new version of Android every month...

faffu41 said:
What should they do? It is a monthly security patch update... Seems like u want a new version of Android every month...
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Nope, i didn't mean that. Their are few bugs left you can find them on Forum,but they don't fix them first, secondly they adda new bugs, like the charging time has increased after April Patch by atleast 30-40 mins. Xiaomi just fails when it comes to answer question relating to updates ,features and anything, they just don't reply to them, with even a simple NO.

If any of you went to android one program webpage and actually read of it, there wouldn't be any stupid discussions.
It should have 8.1 few months ago already. Meanwhile were getting stupid security patches and nothing else.

Ritik99 said:
Nope, i didn't mean that. Their are few bugs left you can find them on Forum,but they don't fix them first, secondly they adda new bugs, like the charging time has increased after April Patch by atleast 30-40 mins. Xiaomi just fails when it comes to answer question relating to updates ,features and anything, they just don't reply to them, with even a simple NO.
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About the charging time, I fail to see how an update could do that, or they changed something in the kernel (which I highly doubt). Seems to me like a hardware matter

Agreed.
ГАСООП said:
If any of you went to android one program webpage and actually read of it, there wouldn't be any stupid discussions.
It should have 8.1 few months ago already. Meanwhile were getting stupid security patches and nothing else.
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The security patches are also legit or not thats big question. Who know's we possibly are getting updates with build number changed only?

You want fast updates? Buy a Pixel!
Xiaomi is known for it´s great specs/ price relation but it´s terrible in the update department, this varying given model x or y. As for our Mi A1, yes, updates are a little slow but still on time .

Ritik99 said:
Each update that comes just changes Build No. And security patch date, you can't feel any changes expect that. Whats the point of such updates, they Fu*king just don't release a changelog, so only they the the changes they did.
I had moto G3, it had got 6.0.1 and got security patch till April 17, i don't know which Moto phone you are talking about.
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I had a Moto G³ too. I've always used custom ROMs with it. It was amazing but stock really sucked.

Xiaomi has the worst community in the world, no doubt.
Anyway, seems like the pre-oreo update, less than 100mb and after 3/4 days Oreo was released.

Android 10

So, looks like no more dessert names for Android... I kind of liked it, it made them stand out. Whatever. So, last year Pie was released the same day it was named, sooo, hoping it gets released today! It's definitely imminent either way.
https://blog.google/products/android/evolving-android-brand/

gettinwicked said:
So, looks like no more dessert names for Android... I kind of liked it, it made them stand out. Whatever. So, last year Pie was released the same day it was named, sooo, hoping it gets released today! It's definitely imminent either way.
https://blog.google/products/android/evolving-android-brand/
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It's not going to be today. It will be this Monday the 26th at the earliest. If not then, it will be sometime after Labor Day. I'm hoping for Monday though.

jmartin72 said:
It's not going to be today. It will be this Monday the 26th at the earliest. If not then, it will be sometime after Labor Day. I'm hoping for Monday though.
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hope they have fixed the issues in P3XL by then - Gyro, dt2w, aod, etc.

ultimatepichu said:
hope they have fixed the issues in P3XL by then - Gyro, dt2w, aod, etc.
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Exactly.....

jmartin72 said:
It's not going to be today. It will be this Monday the 26th at the earliest. If not then, it will be sometime after Labor Day. I'm hoping for Monday though.
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Android 10 release date confirmed: Here's when Google will release it to Pixel phones

I tried the latest beta earlier and when I was lookong around the Google play services was showing as 1st September. Security was 1st of August.
Being a nosey sod I pressed it for more info and it said there was an update. Downloaded a small update and then was back to 1st of August. Kept saying there was still an update but that failed.
Could be the bods getting ready for the new updates maybe? But never seen the play services with its own entry before.

Homeboy76 said:
Android 10 release date confirmed: Here's when Google will release it to Pixel phones
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Meh, I would take this with a grain of salt. Google chat reps seriously don't know what they're talking about most of the time. They don't even have the means to help with much either. Also, the fact that he or she said that it would be Android Q really shoots it down for me. I mean, who knows. I'm betting on this week or next anyway.

Some new information regarding Android 10/Q which would have been Android Queen Cake if Google would have stuck with the dessert names ?.. and also the future of Android with Android lead engineer Dave Burke and another lead developer
https://9to5google.com/2019/08/28/android-10-team-interview/

upgrade to android 11 or stay on 10

it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
Just look at xda's complaint on scooped storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-11-features-developers-new-apis/

gloege said:
it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
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I'm going to upgrade ASAP, never had any issues with the upgrades and I've been in android since 2009.

update to 11 with no second thoughts

Upgrade. No 2nd thoughts about it.

ggrant3876 said:
I'm going to upgrade ASAP, never had any issues with the upgrades and I've been in android since 2009.
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Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage

gloege said:
Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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I did and as I said I've never had any issues with an update in 11 years. I'm sure Sammy will have it figured out before they release it. All my phones have been rooted until the Note 7, and you take more chance flashing a rom written by some dev than an update from a major player.

ggrant3876 said:
I did and as I said I've never had any issues with an update in 11 years. I'm sure Sammy will have it figured out before they release it. All my phones have been rooted until the Note 7, and you take more chance flashing a rom written by some dev than an update from a major player.
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But samsung does not work or develop the third party apps or what not that you install on your phone. Any unsupported app you use will likely be crippled(heard that loading times can be 100× longer to start the app) and any dev too aggravated to to fix it may stop supporting his or her project. Also most devs have not even cought up to android 10. Yea i hope to many update and google learns their error in this mess

gloege said:
But samsung does not work or develop the third party apps or what not that you install on your phone. Any unsupported app you use will likely be crippled(heard that loading times can be 100× longer to start the app) and any dev too aggravated to to fix it may stop supporting his or her project. Also most devs have not even cought up to android 10. Yea i hope to many update and google learns their error in this mess
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If it does happen and I seriously doubt it, I'll just reflash with odin and restore my backup. My glass is half full, not half empty. I have friends on other forums running 11 beta on Pixels with no issues.

Am I in a pixel or oneplus thread? Note 20 ultra users most likely get Android 11 before March 2021 and chances are that any kinks should be ironed out by then. I don't understand why this conversation needs to happen this early.
Edit: https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...-android-11-update-one-ui-3-t-mobile_id127042
Guess I stand corrected! One Ui 3.0 AKA Android 11 is already in Beta in South Korea and coming to T-mobile according to this article.
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gloege said:
it is so frustrating that they release phones so often with no chance to really refines them. then there is google that puts out versions of android before developers get a chance to master or migrate fully to the latter.
i heard the new storage security in android 11 can cause hiccups like slow loading and crashes due to the new storage activity due to the new security rules.
should i stay on android 10 just like so many stayed on android 4.x.x for so long to keep compatibility
Just look at xda's complaint on scooped storage
https://www.xda-developers.com/android-11-features-developers-new-apis/
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I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
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Am I in a pixel or oneplus thread? Note 20 ultra users most likely get Android 11 before March 2021 and chances are that any kinks should be ironed out by then. I don't understand why this conversation needs to happen this early.
Edit: https://www.phonearena.com/news/sam...-android-11-update-one-ui-3-t-mobile_id127042
Guess I stand corrected! One Ui 3.0 AKA Android 11 is already in Beta in South Korea and coming to T-mobile according to this article.
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Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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Guess you just lucked out. But i try not to be the one stuck with a dodgy os. When they updated to android 5 no phone would run my fave application and then the android 5 memory leak. Not to mention other things os updates can bring untill they fix them. And that is googles fault not the phone maker

gloege said:
Guess you just lucked out. But i try not to be the one stuck with a dodgy os. When they updated to android 5 no phone would run my fave application and then the android 5 memory leak. Not to mention other things os updates can bring untill they fix them. And that is googles fault not the phone maker
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LOL. I don't think I lucked out. I think issues with OS updates are far less common than you think. I'd say you are definitely in the minority.
I've been on Android since the original Moto Droid. I've had almost every Moto, LG, Samsung, Nexus, and Pixel. I've been through beta OS updates, official updates, side loaded updates, unofficial ported updates, you name it.
You're going back 5 YEARS and saying because an update broke your favorite application, that Google/Samsung updates too often? Is every update perfect? No, but they certainly don't break everything the way you think they do.

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Android updates on Samsung phones are always an anti-climax. Samsung tend to have implemented all the best features that a new Android update brings already. What you end up with is a range of bugs or security features that break your apps. I will always go for the update that's offered but I am not excited about it or bothered if there's a delay in any roll outs.
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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No you are absolutely right. I'm out in Canada and if memory serves me right we got Android 10 at the beginning of January a month or so after the US. It was the years prior that the OS update came out with the S series release. And to your point Samsung has stepped up their game, tremendously. It's right after the Pixels and Oneplus which is not too shabby. And getting faster to boot. No complaints here. :good:
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Mr. Orange 645 said:
I will absolutely update as soon as its available. I always sign up for the beta each year to get the update ASAP. Most people complain that Samsung doesn't update fast enough. Haven't heard anyone complain yet that they update TOO fast, LOL.
These concerns happen every year, and they always end up being a non-issue.
As far as app compatibility issues, that's the developers' issues. They are advised long in advance what they need to do to remain compatible with the current OS.
Yup! Sammy has stepped up their update game the last few years. I think last year they were pushing the official Android 10 before the end of the year to some devices. I think, but I could be wrong. I know it was earlier than the previous years.
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Yeah, Note10+ got Android 10 in December I believe. Definitely was super fast compared to Note9 getting Android 9 (February/March).
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So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.

PsiPhiDan said:
Yeah, Note10+ got Android 10 in December I believe. Definitely was super fast compared to Note9 getting Android 9 (February/March).
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Thats what I was thinking, but couldn't remember 100%. Unless there's somd major issues, it looks like we're on the same timeline for Android 11, since the beta is already out for the international S20 series. US Note 20 won't be too far behind.

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Check out the link i put in the original post. Even xda sees scooped storage as a failure. Just scroll down to scooped storage
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Spot on. What a wrenched mess.
My 10+ is still running well on Pie.
Google is insane to emulate Apple.
I don't think Google will fix it, another Vista.
Probably stay on Pie for the life of this phone and hope Google regains their sphincter control with 12 or 13...

So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.[/QUOTE]
you know you can change/turn that off to get the notification view of it

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So true. I read one of the big changes with Android was bubble-like messaging, much like FB Messenger. Uh... I've had that in Samsung for a couple years now I think? My text app always pops up in a bubble instead of the notifications panel.
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you know you can change/turn that off to get the notification view of it[/QUOTE]
I saw that too, wtf? Messenger does that all the time with Pie.
Lol, half of the time I disable it because it's a nuisance.
I've backed up all my Playstore apps with APK Export because of them either being taken down in Playstore or turned into a bloody mess to adapt to 10/11.
I also have a couple trusted apps the use overlays, Q would render them useless or a pain to use.
I remember the horror of Vista and Lollipop... Pie is running very well, WYSIWYG
The most I'll do for now is an occasional reload of Pie if needed. All my data including the all apks/system updates are stored on my SD card so reloads are much easier. No screwing around with or waiting for Playstore. Any app that allows it's setup to be exported is also saved there.
With over 230 GB of data it saves a lot of time coping it from the laptop too.
I never have a phone without an SD card slot... you know like an Apple.

I saw that too, wtf? Messenger does that all the time with Pie.
Lol, half of the time I disable it because it's a nuisance.
I've backed up all my Playstore apps with APK Export because of them either being taken down in Playstore or turned into a bloody mess to adapt to 10/11.
I also have a couple trusted apps the use overlays, Q would render them useless or a pain to use.
I remember the horror of Vista and Lollipop... Pie is running very well, WYSIWYG
The most I'll do for now is an occasional reload of Pie if needed. All my data including the all apks/system updates are stored on my SD card so reloads are much easier. No screwing around with or waiting for Playstore. Any app that allows it's setup to be exported is also saved there.
With over 230 GB of data it saves a lot of time coping it from the laptop too.
I never have a phone without an SD card slot... you know like an Apple.[/QUOTE]
thanks for the info i have a few apps i want to get off my lg g4 that are a miss in the android store

Question Whatever happened to the March stock update?

Its later then normal?

no march update usually date ask google please then tell us why

I'm over it Samsung ultra is coming up soon

Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?

My concern is my brand new pixel buds disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. Think that a firmware update on my buds would be more important. That's just me though

boorog said:
I'm over it Samsung ultra is coming up soon
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you will regret it. Just wait for pixel 8 pro 3nm or snapdragon 8 gen 3 big update expected

Tracker31 said:
you will regret it. Just wait for pixel 8 pro 3nm or snapdragon 8 gen 3 big update expected
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Got my wife the 23U and no noticable difference from the 22U. Just an update to what was already created. Agree with you 100%.

avid_droid said:
Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?
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Only that quick dopamine hit of having the latest and greatest.

Tomadock said:
Only that quick dopamine hit of having the latest and greatest.
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Haha. The "alright! I'm updated," until after the reboot feeling. I get it.

avid_droid said:
My concern is my brand new pixel buds disconnecting and reconnecting constantly. Think that a firmware update on my buds would be more important. That's just me though
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Which is a separate update from the Phone firmware

HipKat said:
Which is a separate update from the Phone firmware
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Really? Who would've known(sarcasm).

Tracker31 said:
no march update usually date ask google please then tell us why
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A quick Google search would've told you rather than you coming here and posting bs.
QPR3 kicking off on the 13th, do the math.

avid_droid said:
Is there something cutting edge and beneficial enough to make someone change their life in the update?
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Exactly, I don't understand why people are all up and arms about the monthly being late. Are you in a rush for something? If you have ants in your pants and itching to update something, just reflash your current version to curb your addiction. Everyone needs to relax and stop opening meaningless threads. Be patient and just wait for the update to come out.

Well, maybe because one of the reason they bought the phone is that it should be the first to get each monthly security update. It's google update for google products after all.
Turned out, this month, my S23U is getting update faster than my P7P.
Am not itching or b*tching about update. I just find it funny that google is lagging behind in an area where they should actually excel. Not to mention they only have less than 20 phone models in their portofolio to manage as well. Lol

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Well, maybe because one of the reason they bought the phone is that it should be the first to get each monthly security update. It's google update for google products after all.
Turned out, this month, my S23U is getting update faster than my P7P.
Am not itching or b*tching about update. I just find it funny that google is lagging behind in an area where they should actually excel. Not to mention they only have less than 20 phone models in their portofolio to manage as well. Lol
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And how many of the 1 million Samsung devices did get the update this month?
Samsung is known to have a history of taking back or stopping updates due to massive problems. Google isn't the best update company too.
Better late and stable than early and buggy.

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And how many of the 1 million Samsung devices did get the update this month?
Samsung is known to have a history of taking back or stopping updates due to massive problems. Google isn't the best update company too.
Better late and stable than early and buggy.
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Well, consider that samsung, within one month, sold 1.1 million unit of s23 series alone globally, and those series been updated/getting march 2023 update,
i'd say, 1 million then.
number aside. I agree about being bug free. Which, surprisingly, exactly how it goes so far for my s23u.

Why do people talk about Samsung Phones in a Pixel Forum?

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Why do people talk about Samsung Phones in a Pixel Forum?
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Probably the same reason people talk about Pixel in Samsung forums. Justify a purchase, feel the need to lord it over if something is presumed better on one, really like their phone and want to convince others to like them too, tribalism, cult status.. all kinds of things. I just take it as entertainment on a Sunday morning. I do like the size specs on the S23 mini but then again it's a Sammy so...
As for the topic at hand I think if Google at least gave a reason for the delay that would appease many folks but that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. There are always little bugs we're hoping to squash with each monthly and maybe that's why everyone is wondering when. Even the columnists at AP and 9to5 are wondering and mashing the update button so for people to say just wait, what's the big deal, cool your jets etc. it is a little disingenuous.

bobby janow said:
Probably the same reason people talk about Pixel in Samsung forums. Justify a purchase, feel the need to lord it over if something is presumed better on one, really like their phone and want to convince others to like them too, tribalism, cult status.. all kinds of things. I just take it as entertainment on a Sunday morning. I do like the size specs on the S23 mini but then again it's a Sammy so...
As for the topic at hand I think if Google at least gave a reason for the delay that would appease many folks but that doesn't seem to be forthcoming. There are always little bugs we're hoping to squash with each monthly and maybe that's why everyone is wondering when. Even the columnists at AP and 9to5 are wondering and mashing the update button so for people to say just wait, what's the big deal, cool your jets etc. it is a little disingenuous.
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the one big important thing against Sammy is Knox and Warranty lose when bootloader unlock. You w8 big part of new product because you want to keep warranty.

Unrelated to the update scenarios, I'll say this...I had the pixel 5 and swapped to a Samsung note 20 ultra which I used until getting the p7p. If I'm honest, the note has a way more premium feel to it, holding it, looking at it, using it blows the p7p out of the water. I've been swapping back and forth between the 2 and even at 3 cycles old the Samsung holds it's own.