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So supposedly we aren't getting the official 2.2 update this year.

Just read this article:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/pho...-s-phones-will-not-see-android-2-2-till-2011/
The Captivate is seriously the best phone I have ever owned and I purchased it the first day it became available. Now I think I should have waited a few months before shelling out $499.99. But I am getting really disappointed with Samsung and just want to sell it soon. If this is JUST 2.2, imagine Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I know that I don't have to wait for the official releases, as I'm running DG's 9.1.3 ROM, but just this lack of support from Samsung AGAIN is annoying. On top of the lack of timely software support we still have the GPS issue. I did almost all of the tricks in these forums and the GPS works when it wants to. I have to have it work all the time. I'm thinking of when these new dual-core phones come out in the coming months of just selling my beloved Captivate and getting something else that's not made by Samsung-- as the only thing I will truly miss will be the screen. At this point Samsung might as well just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3 but we know they won't do that. Hopefully the Nexus S turns out to have fewer issues. /rant

Who is the "we" you are referring too? I guess you are a canadian fascinate owner as that is the only model that was stated for a 2011 update to 2.2.
Seriously, you are speculating on an article that is all speculation itself and creating FUD for others.

Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?

jel7 said:
Just read this article:
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/pho...-s-phones-will-not-see-android-2-2-till-2011/
The Captivate is seriously the best phone I have ever owned and I purchased it the first day it became available. Now I think I should have waited a few months before shelling out $499.99. But I am getting really disappointed with Samsung and just want to sell it soon. If this is JUST 2.2, imagine Gingerbread or Honeycomb? I know that I don't have to wait for the official releases, as I'm running DG's 9.1.3 ROM, but just this lack of support from Samsung AGAIN is annoying. On top of the lack of timely software support we still have the GPS issue. I did almost all of the tricks in these forums and the GPS works when it wants to. I have to have it work all the time. I'm thinking of when these new dual-core phones come out in the coming months of just selling my beloved Captivate and getting something else that's not made by Samsung-- as the only thing I will truly miss will be the screen. At this point Samsung might as well just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3 but we know they won't do that. Hopefully the Nexus S turns out to have fewer issues. /rant
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Go to Twitter.com/GalaxySSupport and look at how many times they specifically say the Captivate will have Froyo by the end of the year.

From what I understand, it's ATT, not Samsung causing any delay. In any event, I'm fine with 2.1...I don't see the huge features brought by 2.2 anyway

At this point we may as well just wait for someone to cook some gingerbread.

Froyo
According to Samsung Galaxy S Support, we should have 2.2 by the end of this year.

My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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pachukomendez said:
My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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Tbh I rarely use flash for anything except maybe a few engadget videos. But I do use my phone more than anything now.
Sent from my Captivate

I don't understand why you're so butt-hurt. Just flash one of the 2.2 ROMs, there are plenty to choose from and they all make the phone experience 100x better.

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Just out of curiosity, what froyo features are you waiting for that you want so badly?
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angry birds...

well isnt this just dandy.... :/

jager420 said:
angry birds...
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You can play angry birds now on 2.1.

take this with a load of salt..
from samsungmobileus twitter on Nov 11th...."we are working on Froyo update for our US Galaxy S phones. It will be available this year. "
here is the post http://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUS/status/2818439500533760

Seriously? Another thread speculating on the froyo release date? You said it yourself... there's a whole development section that has plenty of froyo for you. If you just wanted to use the software your carrier provides, you should have gotten an iphone.

pachukomendez said:
My friend that works for AT&T says that's supposedly they are supposed to update on November 26th but like everyone else I hear dates alot and have stopped holding my breath... Im looking forward to the flash 10.1 in froyo see what more I can do with my phone online its already taken the place of my laptop for reading my morning tech blogs so I can get up and go.
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I also work at AT&T and i've heard no such date as to when the official 2.2 roll out is going to happen.

yeah if you here a date it is unofficial and subject to change at any moment, usually it will get delayed not pushed up. the att reps i have talked to are kept in the dark until the release day in most cases. the truth is that att is quite lazy.
back in september when we all thought a froyo release was coming soon i spoke to a samsung engineer who quoted "we are working on the froyo update around the clock" and "the wait should not be unusually long" well the lanuage hes used of "working around the clock" put my expectations around november. now who knows.

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Bluetooth voice dialing. Bluetooth sound quality is bad on i9000 kernels used on the captivate.
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Even when the official 2.2 update comes out, I honestly don't see myself, or a lot of the xda community switching over to it. With DG doing great work on the Cog builds and a lot of people following in his footsteps to provide us new roms, the official Samsung and ATT approved updates will always be just mediocre at best.

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Bluetooth voice dialing. Bluetooth sound quality is bad on i9000 kernels used on the captivate.
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Same here...which is why I am seriously looking at this...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836243..If for some reason the official version doesn't come out by Thanksgiving...I'll most likely root it and flash the latest Cog rom out at that time.
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[Q] Where will updates come from?

Will the phone get updates from Google or T-mobile?

I'm guessing neither. LG has a desktop app that they push updates through. Unless something's different with the G2X I'd assume they'll come through the LG app.

You could also get them from www.cyanogenmod.com!

jimbo831 said:
You could also get them from www.cyanogenmod.com!
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Quoted for truth.

Hmm. So we could possibly be waiting for LG to do this? That is a potential deal-breaker for me. With pure Google experience and updates we are much more future proof.

borchgrevink said:
Hmm. So we could possibly be waiting for LG to do this? That is a potential deal-breaker for me. With pure Google experience and updates we are much more future proof.
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You're looking at getting a Nexus S or Nexus One then. For those of us not willing to pay full price, and wanting better hardware, we have to deal with manufacturers instead.

MWBehr said:
You're looking at getting a Nexus S or Nexus One then. For those of us not willing to pay full price, and wanting better hardware, we have to deal with manufacturers instead.
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I know, but this has more appealing hardware. I just don't get it if it really is LG pushing updates... Why not just let Google handle everything?

Yeah but the update has to go through tmo first before the release it, the have to make sure their crapware is in there.
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I know, but this has more appealing hardware. I just don't get it if it really is LG pushing updates... Why not just let Google handle everything?
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What I'm saying is no phone out there but the Nexus S or Nexus One has AOSP Android. Every other phone has a version modified by the manufacturer. Google has nothing to do with these changes. The only one who can release updates is the manufacturer (or service provider if the manufacturer chooses to send the update to them first).
That's just the way it is.

Are you opposed to rooting your phone and installing custom ROMs? If you are interested in that, CM will be your best bet by far as you get the best of both worlds (CM had Gingerbread on even the Nexus One before Google did!).
If you don't want to use unofficial software, you should stick with the Nexus line. Even pure vanilla Android devices get updates through the carriers, that is how it is and how it always will be. Nexus phones are different as they are not sold through the carriers, just designed to work on them. They are managed entirely through Google which means updates come from Google.

MWBehr said:
What I'm saying is no phone out there but the Nexus S or Nexus One has AOSP Android. Every other phone has a version modified by the manufacturer. Google has nothing to do with these changes. The only one who can release updates is the manufacturer (or service provider if the manufacturer chooses to send the update to them first).
That's just the way it is.
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I was under the impression that the vanilla devices (like the G2x obviously) was AOSP. Do you know what is modified on this version by LG? I know there is preinstalled software, but that is different than changes to AOSP.

borchgrevink said:
Hmm. So we could possibly be waiting for LG to do this? That is a potential deal-breaker for me. With pure Google experience and updates we are much more future proof.
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LG's committed to before Summer. The O2X forum has them giving June as a time frame.

BarryH_GEG said:
LG's committed to before Summer. The O2X forum has them giving June as a time frame.
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Just because they have the update for the O2x by June, doesn't mean the G2x will be ready. The two use different software, plus there are different expectations I think between the US market and European. I hope they come together, but I wouldn't be surprised if LG does the O2x first and then gets working on the G2x.

Bob from Wirefly.com said that he talked to someone from T-Mobile when he got the G2X for review and they said the 2.3 update was coming in one month. I'm not holding my breath, though.
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scmurphy13 said:
Bob from Wirefly.com said that he talked to someone from T-Mobile when he got the G2X for review and they said the 2.3 update was coming in one month. I'm not holding my breath, though.
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LOL. "Bob from Wirefly" has the inside scoop, huh.
Don't ever believe anything somebody tells you when they're trying to sell you something. That's all I'm saying.

jimbo831 said:
I was under the impression that the vanilla devices (like the G2x obviously) was AOSP. Do you know what is modified on this version by LG? I know there is preinstalled software, but that is different than changes to AOSP.
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It's not AOSP vanilla, but it's the closest you will get to it without buying a Nexus phone. There's lots of little tinkering to the OS on the LG2x. For example there's a "DTS" button in the music player to enable dts sound. Also, there's the T-Mobile motto when you drag down the status bar. There's a "tethering may incur charges" warning when you turn on wifi hotspot. There are different notification and ringtones put in. Etc etc. If you put this phone next to a Nexus phone, you will see lots of little differences beyond just the T-Mobile bloatware installed.

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It's not AOSP vanilla, but it's the closest you will get to it without buying a Nexus phone. There's lots of little tinkering to the OS on the LG2x. For example there's a "DTS" button in the music player to enable dts sound. Also, there's the T-Mobile motto when you drag down the status bar. There's a "tethering may incur charges" warning when you turn on wifi hotspot. There are different notification and ringtones put in. Etc etc. If you put this phone next to a Nexus phone, you will see lots of little differences beyond just the T-Mobile bloatware installed.
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Interesting. Mine will be delivered tomorrow so I guess I'll see soon. I've had a Nexus One since release, so I'm sure whatever is different, I will notice. Thanks for the clarification.

Not sure where, but I read from one of the CM guys (I think, don't kill me) that it's not AOSP at all! It's actually that same O2X ROM themed to look like AOSP Froyo

Evo get's Gingerbread 6/3/11... TBolt must not be far behind.

http://phandroid.com/2011/06/01/htc...ers-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-scheduled/
I look forward to the official update so the devs can get to work and this whole Ginger radio thing can be put to bed.

You would think so but you never know with HTC. Here is for hoping though.

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You would think so but you never know with HTC. Here is for hoping though.
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Very true. However, they at least have the sense overlay done (or so it would seem), so that leaves the LTE radio... that's about it.
*raises a glass to HTC*
Don't let me down *****es.

I am so jelous.
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Gingerbread will come out after the maintenance fix update that verizon & HTC are working on. The maintenance update is scheduled for this month so hopefully not to much longer for ginger...

Jrocker23 said:
Gingerbread will come out after the maintenance fix update that verizon & HTC are working on. The maintenance update is scheduled for this month so hopefully not to much longer for ginger...
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You say that pretty confidently. Do you have a good source of information? Just curious if you've got inside knowledge or if this is coming from the internet rumor mill.
Either way I hope you're right. I can't wait for some GB action.
Thanks!

Let's hope they fix it because my Bolt has been a turd. 5 random reboots yesterday.

playbeasy said:
You say that pretty confidently. Do you have a good source of information? Just curious if you've got inside knowledge or if this is coming from the internet rumor mill.
Either way I hope you're right. I can't wait for some GB action.
Thanks!
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I can say that it does come from verizon and its not your everyday cs rep or a store employee. I have known the person since I'm 5 (41 Now) and they have been with verizon 15 years and has worked his way up from tech to a nice position.
I can also add that they were looking into making the maintenance update part of the GB upgrade but were having issues with it so as of now they are two seperate ota's.
Im sure some of the devs here can check and see if this has any validity. I cant get him to confirm a GB date but he said nothing will be set for GB until current issues are dealt with..

Jrocker23 said:
I can say that it does come from verizon and its not your everyday cs rep or a store employee. I have known the person since I'm 5 (41 Now) and they have been with verizon 15 years and has worked his way up from tech to a nice position.
I can also add that they were looking into making the maintenance update part of the GB upgrade but were having issues with it so as of now they are two seperate ota's.
Im sure some of the devs here can check and see if this has any validity. I cant get him to confirm a GB date but he said nothing will be set for GB until current issues are dealt with..
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Where have you been all my (Android) life?!

miketoasty said:
Where have you been all my (Android) life?!
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In my pants...

Been using multiple GB 2.3.3, and 2.3.4 roms, including alpha CM7, with very little issue. I would expect official release soon if I didn't know Verizon so well.
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The EVO has been out a longer than the thunderbolt, and its just now getting it. I'm not saying it will take that long for the tbolt to ft GB, I'm just saying don't get your heart completely set on getting it real soon. Who knows these days really..
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt

I hope it doesn't have the issues the Droid X has with the ota update that rolled out.

jakkzen said:
I hope it doesn't have the issues the Droid X has with the ota update that rolled out.
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All updates have issues so it's going to be pretty much unavoidable. Factory resets can generally clear up most of them though.

Have Google & Samsung robbed some of their customers of OTA's?

Well I consider myself quite loyal to the Android platform and handset manufactures. Bought (and all SIM free) HTC Magic, Motorola Milestone, HTC Desire, Nexus One, Galaxy S, Nexus S.... now that's quite a bit of cash I have spent.
So, after deciding to settle with the Nexus range, as I do like the idea of getting a vanilla android OS, plus the latest and greatest updates.... As I did with the Nexus One.
Well I have two Nexus S's, one for me and one for the girlfriend.... so we are looking nearly 1000€ at the time of purchase.
Both handsets are the i9020 models... and both running 2.3.4
So, out pop's 2.3.5, and it's only for the Nexus S 4G ... well, OK I can live with that.
Now out pop's 2.3.6 ... and once again, or at least for the moment, nothing for the i9020 owners.
To me this is just simply wrong. Plain and simple. There are too many variants of the handset now, but as someone who generally buys on day of release I am expecting to the get the updates.
I can not believe I am alone in thinking this, but one thing is for sure I will be seriously debating purchasing the Nexus Prime or whatever it may be called in the end, if this is how OTA's will be handled.
Interested to see if anyone feels the same about this.

U do know that there just bug fixes for our phone .....y would u want an ota that has nothing to do wit ur phone ...
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There are plenty of bugs in 2.3.4 on i9020 .... most of the problem is Samsung firing out god knows how many variants of the handset. OK, with the Nexus One they had no choice due to supplies of the displays.
It should all be streamlined, not so fragmented.

There are important security patches in these updates too.
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There are important security patches in these updates too.
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Which would apply to the i9020 I assume. Also I guess the android source is on 2.3.6 now... so our handset will be not up to date.

kuntstubble said:
most of the problem is Samsung firing out god knows how many variants of the handset.
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This isn't unusual when you provide phones to multiple carriers.

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This isn't unusual when you provide phones to multiple carriers.
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Yeah OK, but if I pay good money for a SIM free and unlocked handset, which also is meant to be THE purest Android handset on the market, then WTF are we lagging on versions? Sure if they find a carrier specific error, shoot out an update and name it GR1234. But if the base Android platform is update I expect and so should everyone to get them.

You are incorrect on one thing. Is that Samsung has anything to do with Nexus updates. They don't, this is all Google. Another thing, the update just dropped like a week ago, and isn't even widespread to those who are getting it. Doing research also would of helped your cause in this case. Sprint has already announced on the support page that it's coming. You should read my article.. http://the-android-world.blogspot.com/2011/09/nexus-s-update-build-gwk15f-outed.html
You sound as bad as Fixxer did with the Nexus. Be patient... It just dropped, the fix was mostly intended for the voice search bug. Which not all Nexus S's had the issue.

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You are incorrect on one thing. Is that Samsung has anything to do with Nexus updates. They don't, this is all Google. Another thing, the update just dropped like a week ago, and isn't even widespread to those who are getting it. Doing research also would of helped your cause in this case. Sprint has already announced on the support page that it's coming. You should read my article.. http://the-android-world.blogspot.com/2011/09/nexus-s-update-build-gwk15f-outed.html
You sound as bad as Fixxer did with the Nexus. Be patient... It just dropped, the fix was mostly intended for the voice search bug. Which not all Nexus S's had the issue.
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OK some of your comments are valid. And I know fine well that Google provide the OTA's and not Samsung. Think you are missing my point tho... and it's as simple as this, there is fragmentation of the version numbers and functionality too... I'm not banging on about the baseband, but the actual OS...

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Yeah OK, but if I pay good money for a SIM free and unlocked handset, which also is meant to be THE purest Android handset on the market, then WTF are we lagging on versions? Sure if they find a carrier specific error, shoot out an update and name it GR1234. But if the base Android platform is update I expect and so should everyone to get them.
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2.3.4 was suppose to be the last Gingerbread release. 2.3.5 was for the Nexus S 4G because of network issues. 2.3.6 was for the versions experiencing the search popup bug. It would make sense that they are holding off releasing anything to the other Nexus variants until ICS is ready.

There are many more changes than just the major updates you see in the promo materials. 2.3.5 changed way more than just network stuff for NS4G. and 2.3.6 changes way more than just fixing the search popup bug.
It would be nice to get all the latest security patches and bug fixes from 2.3.6 on my T-Mobile Nexus S. BUT, I know resources are often stretched thin especially ahead of a major new release like Ice Cream Sandwich, so I am totally fine with Google putting their attention and resources on that rather than updating my Nexus S with some security patches and bug fixes that the average user will never notice.
Also, the cool thing about Android is, if you really really want 2.3.6 on your NS4G or T-Mo Nexus or Nexus One.... well go here http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html and follow the directions and you can download the 2.3.6 source and build it for any Nexus device.

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There are many more changes than just the major updates you see in the promo materials. 2.3.5 changed way more than just network stuff for NS4G. and 2.3.6 changes way more than just fixing the search popup bug.
It would be nice to get all the latest security patches and bug fixes from 2.3.6 on my T-Mobile Nexus S. BUT, I know resources are often stretched thin especially ahead of a major new release like Ice Cream Sandwich, so I am totally fine with Google putting their attention and resources on that rather than updating my Nexus S with some security patches and bug fixes that the average user will never notice.
Also, the cool thing about Android is, if you really really want 2.3.6 on your NS4G or T-Mo Nexus or Nexus One.... well go here http://source.android.com/source/initializing.html and follow the directions and you can download the 2.3.6 source and build it for any Nexus device.
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But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.

Seriously CRYING for NOTHING. Take a breath and put the phone down. We will probably get the update soon. Chill out. And because of this you don't want another nexus? Have fun waiting for almost a year for updates.

Not crying for nothing. I just don't think it's fair.

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But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.
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Ever try to compile your own ROM? It is very simple and Google has very detailed instructions. The most difficult part, if it is difficult is getting linux and your dev enviroment up and running. Then you can compile your own ROM from source which will add another dimension of fun to your phone

Life isnt fair little Guy. I'm sorry you have to live in such a terrible world where everyone has choice. Someday when you are old enough to vote you can try to elect someone who will force everyone to be identical and all own Motorola razrs. Until that day comes, we will be stuck here forced to suffer as we wait for a small bugfix update that was much needed for hardware that isn't the same as the phone we own. Keep those dreams alive squirt. Never lose hope!
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But do you not think that if you fork out for a vanilla android handset, that you should get every single update. If the source is on 2.3.6, I expect my vanilla handset to also be on that. I do not think it is too much to ask considering it is still sold and marketed as being the real google android phone.
I never had this problem with the Nexus One, and I sure as hell did not expect it with the Nexus S... I feel I have been short changed a little by Google.
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Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Rem3Dy said:
Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Wow, you really are a total prick... but then again, I guess you can not afford SIM free and are roped into a contract.
Grow some pubes.
As one person stated there are changes and bug fixes that would also benefit i9020 owners, you know, the ones who can afford to splash out cash on handsets.
Finally you jumped up little spunk stain, I've never installed via OTA, I just grab the download link and slap it on as an update.zip

Rem3Dy said:
Do you cry when your girlfriend gets the OTA notification before you do? Its not fair! Why does she get it first? They activated my phone before hers!
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Wow, you really are a total prick... but then again, I guess you can not afford SIM free and are roped into a contract.
Grow some pubes.
As one person stated there are changes and bug fixes that would also benefit i9020 owners, you know, the ones who can afford to splash out cash on handsets.
Finally you jumped up little spunk stain, I've never installed via OTA, I just grab the download link and slap it on as an update.zip
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It's been entertaining gentlemen, but please take it to PM if you wish to continue.

There was only one true "nexus" phone and that was the Nexus One. Google is now bright eyed about the making money from hardware business. Expect them to fold like a house of cards to the carriers in the US.
Dems the breaks.
(this is why nobody should support cdma phones)

Verizon officially announces buggy thunderbolt OTA

Can't say I'm surprised: http://support.vzw.com/system_update/thunderbolt.html
No voicemail notifications and FFC issues. Wonderful. How did this pass VZW testing again?

Nothing against you but people have een crying about other devices getting GB first and how we are getting screwed and blah blah and now GB is finally just around the corner and people are going to complain again. Can't be pleased it seems. Just root and run a custom ROM that runs better than stock and it's smooth(er) sailing!

I am running a custom rom. My point is that it's been how long since we were promised GB? 4 months? Weren't we supposed to get it in June? You'd think they would at least be able to iron out the bugs with this long of a delay. It's the end of September and they can't fix voicemail notifications which have plagued every leaked build for months? That's a huge bug (especially since voicemail is a Verizon feature) and it hasn't been fixed yet. Come onnnnn.

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I am running a custom rom. My point is that it's been how long since we were promised GB? 4 months? Weren't we supposed to get it in June? You'd think they would at least be able to iron out the bugs with this long of a delay. It's the end of September and they can't fix voicemail notifications which have plagued every leaked build for months? That's a huge bug (especially since voicemail is a Verizon feature) and it hasn't been fixed yet. Come onnnnn.
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I see your point but I guess it all boils down to is GB worth not being notified of a VM especially with the other alternatives that are out there. With that said I do agree they should of made VM notifications work but I guess that means they will put out another update to fix that and other issues soon (hopefully).

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I see your point but I guess it all boils down to is GB worth not being notified of a VM especially with the other alternatives that are out there.
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I think what it really boils down to is the fact that VZW is releasing this buggy version as an OTA update, which will be rolled out to lots and lots of people who have never heard of ROMs or rooting or anything, and they will be stuck without voicemail notifications or a properly working front camera until VZW (I'm guessing) releases *another* OTA update later on to fix those problems. That's pretty bad customer service. I think they're just releasing it so they can (finally) actually stick to a release date, even if the release is buggy.
People who run custom ROMs won't have to worry about it too much but we are a small minority of all the people who have Thunderbolts.

Jacquestrapp said:
I think what it really boils down to is the fact that VZW is releasing this buggy version as an OTA update, which will be rolled out to lots and lots of people who have never heard of ROMs or rooting or anything, and they will be stuck without voicemail notifications or a properly working front camera until VZW (I'm guessing) releases *another* OTA update later on to fix those problems. That's pretty bad customer service. I think they're just releasing it so they can (finally) actually stick to a release date, even if the release is buggy.
People who run custom ROMs won't have to worry about it too much but we are a small minority of all the people who have Thunderbolts.
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This is true but nothing anyone can do about it. VzW will have to deal with all the customer service calls they get for lack of VM notifications then and that sucks for them.

Jacquestrapp said:
People who run custom ROMs won't have to worry about it too much but we are a small minority of all the people who have Thunderbolts.
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Actually, people who run custom roms WILL have to worry about it. Custom roms do not fix this problem. Using this phone for business it will be a HUGE problem...a liability problem.

I doubt they VM problem will be in this build thats pushing out whenever.

*Madmoose* said:
Actually, people who run custom roms WILL have to worry about it. Custom roms do not fix this problem. Using this phone for business it will be a HUGE problem...a liability problem.
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You have usable, valid alternatives so it's not a make-or-break deal.
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Mustang302LX said:
This is true but nothing anyone can do about it. VzW will have to deal with all the customer service calls they get for lack of VM notifications then and that sucks for them.
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Those who don't use Google Voice or YouMail and so on should call and call and call to get VZW and HTC motivated enough to fix it quickly. Maybe that will motivate them enough.... On the other hand, I have to think fixing VM notifications, for whatever reason, must be extremely difficult. I really don't see either company releasing an update without seriously trying to have fixed this.

People who use the Thunderbolt but do not know about leaked RUUs will not know about the VM bug. They will see their phone prompt them to update and click accept just to get rid of it. If they're in the subway, underground, or a place with no reception and someone leaves them a VM, they will have no idea it's broken until their find out the good old hard way. As you said, VZW will have their hands full with custom complaints in a few days after the OTA hits.

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You have usable, valid alternatives so it's not a make-or-break deal.
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We were speaking specifically about custom roms, not 3rd party software. Everyone has access to those alternatives, whether its a custom rom or not.

Ahhh, yes, I overlooked that aspect of the issue. One won't KNOW they've rec'd a voicemail with this update.... I doubt people randomly check their voicemail to see if there's a new VM. People only do it when their phone tells them they have a VM waiting.
I really expected VZW to acknowledge this issue in their 'announcement' and to at least say "a minor s/w update will be released in the near future to resolve this".

Those are the details for the last ota update

MrCapcom said:
I doubt they VM problem will be in this build thats pushing out whenever.
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The build number is the same as the leak from the other day, so it's there. Let's hope they do change the build before they push it.

Is there a way to not accept the ota? And just prevent it from downloading on its own? My wife's phone is stock and unrooted
Running Team Name SoaB .73, using XDA premium

So where's that new dock we were supposed to get with this OTA? I flashed it and nothing...

solarpolitiks said:
So where's that new dock we were supposed to get with this OTA? I flashed it and nothing...
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No new dock here either. I'm hoping the actual ota is different from this leak.

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Ahhh, yes, I overlooked that aspect of the issue. One won't KNOW they've rec'd a voicemail with this update.... I doubt people randomly check their voicemail to see if there's a new VM. People only do it when their phone tells them they have a VM waiting.
I really expected VZW to acknowledge this issue in their 'announcement' and to at least say "a minor s/w update will be released in the near future to resolve this".
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Use google voice. Problem solved!

Guys it's possible that voice mail and other things will work. The update according to them will be 147mb, much smaller than the full rom leak. As this is an "update" the camera and voice mail may work just fine.
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MrCapcom said:
I doubt they VM problem will be in this build thats pushing out whenever.
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Wanna make a friendly wager?
5 bucks?
Send me your paypal.
I'll drop 5 that they do not have it fixed.