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The site Popular Electronics (I have no personal connection of any kind) advertises for sale a 850 MHz Touch pro
http://www.popularelect.com/product...id=CNPmmfGZhJUCFQRJFQod5VhbrQ&tab=2&osCsid=10
and it specifies that it has an 850 MHz capability:
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent)
Is this for real? All sites I have checked so far specify that the 850MHz version is not available as yet.
If the information of this site is for real, would it work for AT&T?
what a thousand dollar phone
these chinese pricks are getting ridiculous !!!(HTC)
In relation to my question: Is the 850 MHz part for real?
The actual store, btw, is in Chicago.
Correct if I'm wrong, but AFAIK all Pros are quad band GSM.
Yes, all of them have 850mhz available. And it's not Chinese, smart guy.
michalopoulosgk said:
it specifies that it has an 850 MHz capability:
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (Band frequency and data speed are operator dependent)
Is this for real? All sites I have checked so far specify that the 850MHz version is not available as yet.
If the information of this site is for real, would it work for AT&T?
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It is for real. Check out the specifications on the main htc website it says exactly the same thing. The Europe/Asia version will work on Verizon, but you won't be able to get WCDMA speeds. The US version has 850/1900 WCDMA, whereas the Europe/Asia version as mentioned on the HTC site has 900/2100. Would be nice if they could make one with all 4 WCDMA's
I have definitely seen some sites that claim the Touch Pro is only Tri-Band, but the HTC site would be the one to go by seeing as they made it an all
WCDMA (3G) is where it differs. All Touch Pro's do NOT have 850mhz WCDMA. You can get service everywhere, but only 3G in areas with 900/2100mhz 3G... AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G.
Black93300ZX said:
WCDMA (3G) is where it differs. All Touch Pro's do NOT have 850mhz WCDMA. You can get service everywhere, but only 3G in areas with 900/2100mhz 3G... AT&T uses 850/1900 for 3G.
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lol I just saw your last post in the release date thread and edited my response, but I was too slow
Many thanks to all, this was very helpful.
Black93300ZX said:
Yes, all of them have 850mhz available. And it's not Chinese, smart guy.
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No they do not all have it activated, smart guy ....look here at the official Dutch HTC site specs:
http://www.htc.com/nl/product.aspx?id=54146
No 850mhz band... not even for gsm (voice) function. Its a triband not quadband....
And after browsing this forum for weeks now its still not clear to me if the 850mhz band can be activated with just a rom/radio update..... a lot of different opinions in here....
Somebody knows the 'truth'?
t-mobile usa is rolling out with 3g for bands 1700 to 2100
merten3000 said:
No they do not all have it activated, smart guy ....look here at the official Dutch HTC site specs:
http://www.htc.com/nl/product.aspx?id=54146
No 850mhz band... not even for gsm (voice) function. Its a triband not quadband....
And after browsing this forum for weeks now its still not clear to me if the 850mhz band can be activated with just a rom/radio update..... a lot of different opinions in here....
Somebody knows the 'truth'?
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First of all, it is a ROM flash, second, their specs page for english used to say triband too but they changed it to quad band...
I have a friend who works for ATT and just tested the new HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) and said that ATT is planning on releasing them in November, code named "ATT Fusion."
Of course, they claim it's real...
michalopoulosgk said:
The site Popular Electronics (I have no personal connection of any kind) advertises for sale a 850 MHz Touch pro...
If the information of this site is for real, would it work for AT&T?
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These guys say (of course) they got a few in stock and they sold quickly. These are actually the EUROPE/ASIA version but the rep claims they are Quadband and that 3G works on both AT&T and T-Mobile (US). They are getting more in next week.
http://www.popularelect.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_58&products_id=1026
Hmmmm....who to believe?????
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DeniaL said:
I have a friend who works for ATT and just tested the new HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) and said that ATT is planning on releasing them in November, code named "ATT Fusion."
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That's interesting. Did he get to take any pictures by any slight chance?
The more I read the more I get confused.....are the phones (if as advertised) in the site mentioned on post 14 likely to be working with ATT 3G?
UMTS/HSDPA for 850/900/1900/2100 on Touch Pro
I also keep on hearing this regarding bands on the Touch Pro. Can the UMTS/HSDPA band be activated for 850/900/1900/2100 by just flashing a custom ROM or changing the Radio Version? Please someone answer this....
This is something i want to know as well. I've been doing quite a bit of searching with no answer as of yet.
I live 40 minutes from Chicago and have asked this company about AT&T, Quad Band, and actual prodoct availability.
If they have them in stock, I will drive to their store, insert my AT&T SIM card and see if it will actually work.
But first, let's see if they respond to my questions.
Good deal...
someara said:
I live 40 minutes from Chicago and have asked this company about AT&T, Quad Band, and actual prodoct availability.
If they have them in stock, I will drive to their store, insert my AT&T SIM card and see if it will actually work.
But first, let's see if they respond to my questions.
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Yea...I'm close to these guys too. Actually there are about 5 electronics storefront stores all next door to each other over there on W. Devon in Chicago. I bought my last 4 unlocked GSM phones from that area. Oddly enough, Popular Electronics have NEVER been the first to have any of the phones I wanted. For the past 2 years their usual answer has been "It will be here MONDAY." But "MONDAY" takes months to come!
The guys next door at Overseas Electronics (http://www.welectronics.com/) have always gotten the phones FIRST in that area--including the TyTN II. Even the other store next door to them (http://bargainoffers.com/catalog/default.php) get the hottest GSM phones before Pop Elect. This time though, Overseas say about 3-4 weeks out for the Touch Pro...so I'm really interested to know if Pop Elect actually gets them FOR REAL "by MONDAY" this time.
Please keep us informed. Thanks!!
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Since this model isn't out yet, I suppose this is not yet considered a n00b question. I am, and I'm sure many of you are also, wondering if the international One XL and the US version One X on AT&T would be able to interchange radios via RUU updates. If radios are interchangeable by themselves, is it simply a matter of S-OFF?
Why am I asking this?
I'm on T-Mobile right now, planning to use AT&T model with TMo's HSPA+, but then I am moving to Europe in a few months - in Germany, they're using LTE on 2600 MHz whilst UK is rumoured to be using LTE on 1800 MHz (though LTE there is now up in the air again).
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senkulpa said:
Since this model isn't out yet, I suppose this is not yet considered a n00b question. I am, and I'm sure many of you are also, wondering if the international One XL and the US version One X on AT&T would be able to interchange radios via RUU updates. If radios are interchangeable by themselves, is it simply a matter of S-OFF?
Why am I asking this?
I'm on T-Mobile right now, planning to use AT&T model with TMo's HSPA+, but then I am moving to Europe in a few months - in Germany, they're using LTE on 2600 MHz whilst UK is rumoured to be using LTE on 1800 MHz (though LTE there is now up in the air again).
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ATT bands:
LTE CAT3 - DL 100 /UL 50
LTE: 700/AWS
WCDMA: 2100/1900/AWS/850
EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900
International bands:
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1900//2100 MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
ATT lite band is 700/AWS. That will not work in England or Germany if you have stated the bands correctly. Both versions will work on 3G & 2G in either market.
Band compatibility is set in hardware, and cannot be changed by flashing a new radio, if that is what you are suggesting. So if you need a particular LTE band, the phone you buy needs to be compatible with that band when you buy it.
Thanks for quick responses, everyone.
If I buy the AT&T one but I'm on T-Mobile's (bulls*** fake 4G) HSPA+ which runs on AWS 1700/2100, I imagine that would work still? Or when it mentions 1700/2100 that is segregated for downlink and uplink? If that is so, then dammit, I will have to re-evalute my life!
redpoint73 said:
Band compatibility is set in hardware, and cannot be changed by flashing a new radio, if that is what you are suggesting. So if you need a particular LTE band, the phone you buy needs to be compatible with that band when you buy it.
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I see. I brought up the question about radios because, as you probably already know - since it was on XDA headlines and that, TMo's SGS2 and ATT's Skyrocket + Galaxy Note were able to switch radios. Specifically, the Skyrocket was able to flash SGS2 HSPA+ radio and fully utilise its speeds.
References:
SGS2 & Skyrocket: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=4303
SGS2 & GNote: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4129&idPhone2=4374
The comparison of the Intl XL and X AT&T is making me assume that HSPA+ will work on T-Mo at least, since it supports both AWS 1700 and 1200. I guess the Intl XL only supports 2100, which continues to leave me a little confused (when comparing it to Skyrocket + TMo's HSPA+).
Ref:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4614&idPhone2=4572
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You can probably flash XL and X ATT radios, but they will operate on the same bands as always.
I have a very strong feeling that the X ATT radios will be better if you are on AT&T though.
senkulpa said:
If I buy the AT&T one but I'm on T-Mobile's (bulls*** fake 4G) HSPA+ which runs on AWS 1700/2100, I imagine that would work still? Or when it mentions 1700/2100 that is segregated for downlink and uplink? If that is so, then dammit, I will have to re-evalute my life!
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Its impossible to be 100% positive on the compatibility, since the phone is not even released yet.
But yes, the band T-Mobile uses (1700/2100) one is used for upload, and the other for download, also known as Band IV.
The 2100 band normally included on AT&T phones (for 3G international use) is Band I. So the One XL will probably not work on T-Mobs 3G network.
They have no reason to include T-Mobs band on an AT&T phone. But they do have motivation for including Band I for its international traveling customers, since this band is widely used in Europe, Asia, and other places.
redpoint73 said:
Its impossible to be 100% positive on the compatibility, since the phone is not even released yet.
But yes, the band T-Mobile uses (1700/2100) one is used for upload, and the other for download, also known as Band IV.
The 2100 band normally included on AT&T phones (for 3G international use) is Band I. So the One XL will probably not work on T-Mobs 3G network.
They have no reason to include T-Mobs band on an AT&T phone. But they do have motivation for including Band I for its international traveling customers, since this band is widely used in Europe, Asia, and other places.
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Since there is no release yet, we're all speculating - which is okay.
I've been researching mobile frequencies and bands, and it seems that since there is WCDMA support listed on the specifications for frequencies: 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100, they fall into bands:
1 (2.1 @ DL 2110-2170, UL 1920-1980)
2 (PCS 1900 @ DL 1930-1990, UL 1850-1910)
4 (AWS @ DL 2110-2155, UL 1710-1755) could be band 10 (Extended AWS)
5 (850 MHz @ DL 869-894, UL 824-849)
The sole LTE band is:
17 (LTE700 @ DL 734-746, UL 704-716)
whilst 1700 and 2100 are also used for LTE.
DL = downlink range
UL = uplink range
Referenced from:
http://niviuk.free.fr/lte_band.php
The only thing that could prevent cross-compatibility (which, as mentioned, would favour AT&T) is having the LTE chipset separate from the HSDPA chipset. Though the case may not at all be for HTC, Samsung's Skyrocket (MSM8260) and Galaxy Note (MSM8660) have a single chipset that hosts LTE and HSDPA bands - thus their radios are interchangeable.
Do any of you know the specific radio chipset that is used in the One X for AT&T?
I'm assuming it's the radio on the listed SoC Qualcomm MSM8960 - which is also on the international One XL that is specified to simply host the 1800 / 2600 bands.
Referenced from:
Wikipedia entry on the Snapdragons (take this with a grain of salt!)
Snapdragon S4 product brief
As I said, as this is all speculation, a development hack on the modem or straight compatibility, or non-compatibility, could be the case. I'm just going to keep my fingers crossed!
Thanks so far for all of your replies!
To contradict my previous post, HTC's website doesn't even list support for 1700 MHz for the AT&T version of the One XL.
http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-one-xl/#specs
I don't think it's possible. The chipsets between the XL and X are VASTLY different Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 vs. Nvidia Tegra 3.
The Skyrocket, AT&T LTE Note and T-Mo SGSII on the other hand all use the same Snapdragon S3 Qualcomm chipset.
Taknarosh said:
I don't think it's possible. The chipsets between the XL and X are VASTLY different Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 vs. Nvidia Tegra 3.
The Skyrocket, AT&T LTE Note and T-Mo SGSII on the other hand all use the same Snapdragon S3 Qualcomm chipset.
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Simply in pertinence to my usage of "X" has always been about the AT&T derivative of the original One XL. Sorry for the wording, I'm at my uni's library - scholar mode on!
They may not be interchangeable between one x and one xl but you might be able to do that between one x and one s
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@ senkulpa
Lets hope for them to compatible. Are you contemplating switching to AT&T if they are not?
I'm stuck on contract until November with Terrible-Mobile.
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senkulpa said:
I'm on T-Mobile right now, planning to use AT&T model with TMo's HSPA+, but then I am moving to Europe in a few months - in Germany, they're using LTE on 2600 MHz whilst UK is rumoured to be using LTE on 1800 MHz (though LTE there is now up in the air again).
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I kind of have the inverse problem to this...
I'm in the UK currently, and hoping that EE's 1800MHz LTE network is given the green light for Q3/Q4 - I want a One X, but it won't be future-proof (i.e. LTE compatible), so a One XL would be great! Also I might be in the states quite a lot over the next couple of years, so it would be nice to have an AT&T LTE-ready phone.
Considering importing the One XL and using it over here - also have the benfit of S4 vs. Tegra 3...
Cheers,
Su
Sumanji said:
I kind of have the inverse problem to this...
I'm in the UK currently, and hoping that EE's 1800MHz LTE network is given the green light for Q3/Q4 - I want a One X, but it won't be future-proof (i.e. LTE compatible), so a One XL would be great! Also I might be in the states quite a lot over the next couple of years, so it would be nice to have an AT&T LTE-ready phone.
Considering importing the One XL and using it over here - also have the benfit of S4 vs. Tegra 3...
Cheers,
Su
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Wouldn't be surprised to see a carrier out their own One XL variant.
I have a feeling that the One XL is international, but will require region/carrier specific versions based upon radio bands. While you can roam on HSPA+, you're going to probably be tied down to specific carriers/countries for LTE service.
Of course, development-wise this only matters for radio firmware and RILs, so development efforts won't be carrier-specific if we get S-OFF.
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senkulpa said:
Since this model isn't out yet, I suppose this is not yet considered a n00b question. I am, and I'm sure many of you are also, wondering if the international One XL and the US version One X on AT&T would be able to interchange radios via RUU updates. If radios are interchangeable by themselves, is it simply a matter of S-OFF?
Why am I asking this?
I'm on T-Mobile right now, planning to use AT&T model with TMo's HSPA+, but then I am moving to Europe in a few months - in Germany, they're using LTE on 2600 MHz whilst UK is rumoured to be using LTE on 1800 MHz (though LTE there is now up in the air again).
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They're the same radio and software, but physical antennas cannot be changed. Either it has it, or it doesn't.
are there any roms out there that support 900mhz HSDPA?
I tried flashing the 02 modem but no luck, currently on the viper rom but it doesnt seem like there support on this either
Frequency support is hardware based. If the 900 Mhz HSPA frequency is not supported in hardware (which it should not be, since its not in the phone's specs), it can't be added by flashing any amount of software radios, ROMs etc.
actually while you are correct, but normally if 850 mhz is supported the hardware will support 900 in my experience. In fact I managed to get 900mhz, working on my at&t skyrocket so it got me thinking that it might be possible on this phone as well
Doubt it. It's entirely hardware related. Software can't change this at all.
Proxyep said:
actually while you are correct, but normally if 850 mhz is supported the hardware will support 900 in my experience. In fact I managed to get 900mhz, working on my at&t skyrocket so it got me thinking that it might be possible on this phone as well
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The Skyrocket and HOX do support 850/900/1800/1900 on the 2G network, but they only support 850/1800/1900 on the 3G side. Why they do this is beyond me.
That said, I've never personally seen a provider who only has 3G on the 900mhz band. While traveling in Germany, I knew that Vodafone and T-Mobile (DE) had 3G on the 900mhz band, but they also run it on 1800mhz. If I were to wager a hypothesis, they are operating their 2G network on 900 and their 3G network on 1800, much in the same way that AT&T operates its 2G network on 850 (in some areas) and its 3G network on 1900.
Unless your provider is only operating on the 900mhz band, it shouldn't matter.
rbrugman said:
The Skyrocket and HOX do support 850/900/1800/1900 on the 2G network, but they only support 850/1800/1900 on the 3G side. Why they do this is beyond me.
That said, I've never personally seen a provider who only has 3G on the 900mhz band. While traveling in Germany, I knew that Vodafone and T-Mobile (DE) had 3G on the 900mhz band, but they also run it on 1800mhz. If I were to wager a hypothesis, they are operating their 2G network on 900 and their 3G network on 1800, much in the same way that AT&T operates its 2G network on 850 (in some areas) and its 3G network on 1900.
Unless your provider is only operating on the 900mhz band, it shouldn't matter.
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well I have 2100 as well but the point is I am wondering if there is any roms that support the 900mhz band. Doesn't 02 use 900mhz 3G?
Besides on the official website it says this! (Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
IS the hardware on the AT&T one X the same as the one on the one XL?
Proxyep said:
Besides on the official website it says this! (Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
IS the hardware on the AT&T one X the same as the one on the one XL?
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Its not clear to me what version of the phone you own, and are talking about. You mention that you have an AT&T Skyrocket, but you also have Vodaphone logo by your avatar, location is stated as New Zealand, and mention O2.
If you are talking about the AT&T One X, then no, the 900 MHz band is not listed in the specs for 3G compatibility: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-x-gray.html
Proxyep said:
are there any roms out there that support 900mhz HSDPA?
I tried flashing the 02 modem but no luck, currently on the viper rom but it doesnt seem like there support on this either
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Seems like on another thread someone got 3G....No idea how, but they did.
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redpoint73 said:
Its not clear to me what version of the phone you own, and are talking about. You mention that you have an AT&T Skyrocket, but you also have Vodaphone logo by your avatar, location is stated as New Zealand, and mention O2.
If you are talking about the AT&T One X, then no, the 900 MHz band is not listed in the specs for 3G compatibility: http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/devices/htc/one-x-gray.html
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I had the Skyrocket, not the OP. I was just comparing frequency specs.
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Proxyep said:
well I have 2100 as well but the point is I am wondering if there is any roms that support the 900mhz band. Doesn't 02 use 900mhz 3G?
Besides on the official website it says this! (Asia/AUS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
IS the hardware on the AT&T one X the same as the one on the one XL?
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Sorry, I didn't realize you had an Australian One X(L). According to the official specs, it should support 3G on the 900 mhz band. The rom you use won't make a difference. If the One X REALLY supports 3G on the 900mhz band, it should work with whatever rom/radio combo you choose. That said, there is a possibility that it is a typo on HTC's part, and that it doesn't actually support 3G on that band.
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I had the Skyrocket, not the OP. I was just comparing frequency specs.
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Actually, if you read post #3 the OP mentions he has an AT&T Skyrocket also.
rbrugman said:
Sorry, I didn't realize you had an Australian One X(L). According to the official specs, it should support 3G on the 900 mhz band. The rom you use won't make a difference. If the One X REALLY supports 3G on the 900mhz band, it should work with whatever rom/radio combo you choose. That said, there is a possibility that it is a typo on HTC's part, and that it doesn't actually support 3G on that band.
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Its really not clear what the OP has, and what the specs are. Maybe purchsed from Vodaphone in New Zealand from the logos by his avatar? Or he could have bought the phone from a 3rd party source? In any case, he seems to be pulling specs from a generic source like the HTC website, since it indicates "Asia/Aus". Its best if he got the specs from the carrier (if its a carrier purchased phone) to make sure the specs match up with the exact version you have. Even so, typos and incorrect listing have been known to happen, as mentioned.
If the band really is listed in the specs, it should be supported in software, and no changes should be needed. Is the correct APN entered?
If settings are all correct, and data is still not working, it suggests the hardware does not in fact support the band.
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Proxyep said:
actually while you are correct, but normally if 850 mhz is supported the hardware will support 900 in my experience. In fact I managed to get 900mhz, working on my at&t skyrocket so it got me thinking that it might be possible on this phone as well
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Some AT&T phones, including the Skyrocket, Galaxy Note, and others have been known to have some bands "hidden" - supported in hardware, but not in software. I know people have gotten the AWS band working on these phones by flashing different radios.
This has not been found to be the case with the One X, so far.
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Some AT&T phones, including the Skyrocket, Galaxy Note, and others have been known to have some bands "hidden" - supported in hardware, but not in software. I know people have gotten the AWS band working on these phones by flashing different radios.
This has not been found to be the case with the One X, so far.
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yeah I guess you are right, there are instances where it momentarily connects to 900mhz but then drops to something else. It is a AT&T htc one X that I acquired cheaply btw.
i'll probably be selling it off, a severe lack of microSD card slot is honestly a real dealbreaker
Hello I'm French and in my country the carrier use the B1 B7 and B20 to connect to network.
But all the xiaomi not use the B20 radion
I see it's possible to unlock B20 for smartphone use Qualcom soc ?
I don't know if is possible to unlock the B20 for the Xiaomi Mi4c ? It use a Qualcom 808 soc.
Please help me for use the B20 in the Xiaomi Mi4c
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Hello I'm French and in my country the carrier use the B1 B7 and B20 to connect to network.
But all the xiaomi not use the B20 radion
I see it's possible to unlock B20 for smartphone use Qualcom soc ?
I don't know if is possible to unlock the B20 for the Xiaomi Mi4c ? It use a Qualcom 808 soc.
Please help me for use the B20 in the Xiaomi Mi4c
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Unfortunately you can't unlock band 20 at the moment, in fact you might not ever be able to unlock the band. So if it's crucial for you to have band 20, buy a different phone.
However, it's a really nice phone, if if you don't necessarily need the specific band, then this phone is a good buy I believe.
ok thank's a lot
@ggkameleon,
I don't have this phone (yet ) But, my Telco uses Band 20 too.
What I intend to do is use my sim for phone calls/TXT's and get a 'Pay As You Go' LTE sim for Net access.
If you see the most good chines provider don't use B20 Mezu Xiaomi Lenovo why ? And other use it but it's not the more good smartphone or huawei use it but the price are expensive. When you see the last Xiaomi Redmi 3 Redmi note 3 and now MI5 very good smartphone and not expensive.
Hi din't know what is it a 'pay as you go' ?
But if your telco use b20 you can't have 4g lte in b20 ! But if use with b20 the band b7 or b3 the phone connect to b3 or b7 if ist possible or connect to wcdma in 3g network !
But i can't know why meizu pro 5 use the same soc exynos than galaxy s6 and the galaxy s6 work in b20 ! It's not possible to unlock b20 in meizu?
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Hi din't know what is it a 'pay as you go' ?
But if your telco use b20 you can't have 4g lte in b20 ! But if use with b20 the band b7 or b3 the phone connect to b3 or b7 if ist possible or connect to wcdma in 3g network !
But i can't know why meizu pro 5 use the same soc exynos than galaxy s6 and the galaxy s6 work in b20 ! It's not possible to unlock b20 in meizu?
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He meant he'll use a second, prepaid sim to get LTE from another provider who uses a different band. Although it's been said that using the dual sim function on this phone reduces battery life quite a bit.
Yes, if you don't have the correct 4G bands, but do have the 3G or 2G bands, your phone will be fully functional, just not have the best speed possible.
It's not just a matter of having the same soc, it's a combination of soc, radio and firmware. In some phones a workaround can be found to unlock the radio, others not.
Logic_ said:
He meant he'll use a second, prepaid sim to get LTE from another provider who uses a different band. Although it's been said that using the dual sim function on this phone reduces battery life quite a bit.
Yes, if you don't have the correct 4G bands, but do have the 3G or 2G bands, your phone will be fully functional, just not have the best speed possible.
It's not just a matter of having the same soc, it's a combination of soc, radio and firmware. In some phones a workaround can be found to unlock the radio, others not.
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Ah ! Ok but if they are a provider don't use B20 go it ! Don't use two provider ? Ok it's not possible to unlock.
Me in my country (France) They are 4 provider Free use 2600 for 4g, but it's a new provider and they are not many radio in 4g and even less 3g I test it's not possible. Bouygues use for 4g 1800 2600 and a little 800 it's the best for chinese smartphones but where I leave there are not radio Orange use for 4g 800 2600 and in radio there are two band in city but in campaign only 800 Sfr use 800 2600 and use a lot of 800 and it's actually my provider. I speak with users of chinese phone the best are Bouygues or Orange because the one don't use many 800 and the second if don't possible to use 800 the phone go to H+ (wdcma 900) and the speed of 4g 800 it's the almost the same of H+ wcdma 900 !?
If I buy a Xiaomi or Meizu I do change my provider but the smartphone do use the 3G Wdcma 900 ! I believe do use it.
The problem now it's Xiaomi block the boot loader of the new phones ? I see the new Redmi note 3 Pro it's a more good quality but It's more complicated to change language and don't use B20 ! I'm disappointed.... I stay to see what Xiaomi make for international customers.
"He meant he'll use a second, prepaid sim to get LTE from another provider who uses a different band. Although it's been said that using the dual sim function on this phone reduces battery life quite a bit.
Yes, if you don't have the correct 4G bands, but do have the 3G or 2G bands, your phone will be fully functional, just not have the best speed possible.
It's not just a matter of having the same soc, it's a combination of soc, radio and firmware. In some phones a workaround can be found to unlock the radio, others not."
Ok i understand
Yes it's not a good idea to use 2 different provider one don't use b20 and one use it !
Because if you have a provider don't use b20 go for this provider Because you paid 2 provider ! It's just if you are in contract you can make this option but it's more expensive.
In France all provider use b20 ! Only one don't use but there are not enought radio.
Thank you for your message I understand it's to complicated to unlock band and it's possible to use only in 3g.
Yes, too complicated or simply not possible with the hardware. Whatever the case, 3G can be more than sufficient.. I have never done anything with my phone that required more speed than 3G.
However, the phone does have a lot of other LTE bands, be sure to double check if there's not one that matches, it was the case for me.
1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe according to this, there should be enough in france that match to provide normal LTE operation.
Free Mobile is fine for Mi4c you know
I have LTE in outdoor in all Paris (indoor i'm always on wifi)
Thank you for your support and link
Actually my provider are Sfr (because I have a promotion for one year 10€ calls/sms unlimited ans 20go of data) and I do not want to break this wonderful contract
This provider use fifty/fifty FDD B20 800mhz/B7 2600mhz and UMTS B8 900mhz/B1 2100mhz
That good for Xiaomi Meizu FDD-LTD except FDD B20 800mhz
But there are a new problem with Chinese smartphones the Boatloder are lock now
I use Apple phones after Samsung with 3gs 4s and 5s but now the price of their phones are to much and not as high as the difference of Use Android phones ! It's stupid now to buy a smartphone than 800/1000$ it's not possible to my heart and my wife said go out of home if you buy it !!! Paid us a travel and buy another phones. she's right you know.
I like Xiaomi phones and I stay for the mi5......
jonasb_dk said:
Unfortunately you can't unlock band 20 at the moment, in fact you might not ever be able to unlock the band. So if it's crucial for you to have band 20, buy a different phone.
However, it's a really nice phone, if if you don't necessarily need the specific band, then this phone is a good buy I believe.
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Wat about other bands ?
i used also my Mi4c with 2 SIM cards (one private with Free operator and the second one with SFR for pro usage). No real problem with 800mhz band used by the two operators.
Ok thank you
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i used also my Mi4c with 2 SIM cards (one private with Free operator and the second one with SFR for pro usage). No real problem with 800mhz band used by the two operators.
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Did you unlock any bands on it ?
cy-rock said:
Did you unlock any bands on it ?
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The problem will be in a zone where the SFR antenna will deliver 4G only on the unsupported band, you will have only 3G.
That'all. So, it's up tio you to test in the main zone you are, what bands are used by SFR.
Kéno40 said:
The problem will be in a zone where the SFR antenna will deliver 4G only on the unsupported band, you will have only 3G.
That'all. So, it's up tio you to test in the main zone you are, what bands are used by SFR.
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I know which bands i need or use
...but i tried with qxm and qps to unlock bands on the mi4c but i was unable too !
so i was wondering if anyone else with this device was succesful !
Not possible. Maybe never...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/unlocking-lte-bands-t3215763
Sorry, I let the link for the others, but I've seen you've written something at the end....
You can try to contact him for expertise!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56577252&postcount=455
Kéno40 said:
Not possible. Maybe never...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/unlocking-lte-bands-t3215763
Sorry, I let the link for the others, but I've seen you've written something at the end....
You can try to contact him for expertise!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56577252&postcount=455
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Yeah i read all that ...i was hopiing
thx tho....i can still use band 7 here LTE is doing great ...band 4 would be nice for full coverage especially inside building and metro ...
Oneplus 7 Pro's LTE bands are "B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,32,66".
Is it just a small problem?
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AT&T : 2/4/5/12/17/29/66
T-Mobile : 2/4/5/12/46/48/66/71
Verizon Wireless : 2/4/5/13/46/48/66
Band 71 is present, but just contradicts with their other info where band 71 isn't present.
FDD LTE: B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,32,66
TDD-LTE: B34,38,39,40,41
TDS: B34,39
UMTS: B1,2,4,5,8,9,19
CDMA: BC0,BC1
GSM: B2,3,5,8
I checked https://www.cellmapper.net/ to check on the bands, but seems like it shouldnt be that big of an impact for me since it's not that many in my area. Or am I wrong ? I think it'll impact rural areas more with less towers.
hyghonryce said:
Oneplus 7 Pro's LTE bands are "B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,32,66".
Is it just a small problem?
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I just noticed this too.
Maybe a typo? I can't imagine no band 71
courtesy of TmoNews...
https://www.tmonews.com/2019/05/oneplus-7-pro-official-tmobile-specs-price-images/
T-Mobile will sell the OnePlus 7 Pro with 8GB of RAM and 256GB of internal storage for $0 down and $29.17 per month for 24 months on an Equipment Installment Plan. T-Mobile will also offer the OnePlus 7 Pro through JUMP! On Demand, with JOD pricing set at $0 down and $31 per month for an 18-month lease. T-Mo will sell the OnePlus 7 Pro in Nebula Blue and Mirror Grey.
As you’d expect from a brand new flagship phone on T-Mobile, the OnePlus 7 Pro supports all of T-Mo’s LTE network features. That includes 600MHz (LTE band 71) as well as 4×4 MIMO, 256 QAM, License Assisted Access (LAA), and carrier aggregation.
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southaven1981 said:
courtesy of TmoNews...
https://www.tmonews.com/2019/05/oneplus-7-pro-official-tmobile-specs-price-images/
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Is there a difference with the unlock version from OnePlus?
worldsoutro said:
Is there a difference with the unlock version from OnePlus?
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The site does also say
AT&T : 2/4/5/12/17/29/66
T-Mobile : 2/4/5/12/46/48/66/71
Verizon Wireless : 2/4/5/13/46/48/66
Band 71 is present, but just contradicts with their other info where band 71 isn't present.
FDD LTE: B1,2,3,4,5,7,8,12,13,17,18,19,20,25,26,28,29,32,66
TDD-LTE: B34,38,39,40,41
TDS: B34,39
UMTS: B1,2,4,5,8,9,19
CDMA: BC0,BC1
GSM: B2,3,5,8
I checked https://www.cellmapper.net/ to check on the bands, but seems like it shouldnt be that big of an impact for me since it's not that many in my area. Or am I wrong ? I think it'll impact rural areas more with less towers.
Strange indeed
The spec sheet for the op7 has the Chinese version with bands 30 and 71 but international without them?
This was on one plus indian site
ok guys
i got this from the OP Rep
also there is only one version of the oneplus 7 pro apparently, a global variant.
virtyx said:
ok guys
i got this from the OP Rep
also there is only one version of the oneplus 7 pro apparently, a global variant.
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Just talked to OP Rep, they said they dont have information on it. I doubt they know.
But imma drop by the pop up store today maybe. I'll ask, but I doubt they know too.
I wish someone would confirm it. I really don't want to buy a phone from tmobile.
pop up didn't have unlocked. was just a regular t mobile store. everyone didnt know much info about the phone. sorry.
oneplus site updated with all correct lte bands last nite
norwoodesteel said:
oneplus site updated with all correct lte bands last nite
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I can't find it. Could you please post a link.
netgar said:
I can't find it. Could you please post a link.
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https://www.oneplus.com/7pro?from=head#/specs
I don't want the T-Mo version, the unlocked one on their site has all of the bands including 66, and 71.
My main question I need answered before buying this phone is whether RCS will work on the unlocked one. Otherwise I'll wait and pay more for the Note 10
My Telco uses band 3 and 40. I purchased my op 7p from the US site, as per the site, the American op store version has band 3 but not 40. Do u guys know if this can be changed via software or is it the hardware?
The version in India has both band 3 and 40.
hubono said:
My Telco uses band 3 and 40. I purchased my op 7p from the US site, as per the site, the American op store version has band 3 but not 40. Do u guys know if this can be changed via software or is it the hardware?
The version in India has both band 3 and 40.
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I would like to know this too - B40 support for OP7Pro North America model.
I am interested in B40 which seems very important for India.
band 71 there they all are very easy to turn on
ecompton59 said:
band 71 there they all are very easy to turn on
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What app do you use to turn them on?
activity launcher you can access 2 types of menus like that ones in settings other is rftool kit i believe