Hello I'm French and in my country the carrier use the B1 B7 and B20 to connect to network.
But all the xiaomi not use the B20 radion
I see it's possible to unlock B20 for smartphone use Qualcom soc ?
I don't know if is possible to unlock the B20 for the Xiaomi Mi4c ? It use a Qualcom 808 soc.
Please help me for use the B20 in the Xiaomi Mi4c
ggkameleon said:
Hello I'm French and in my country the carrier use the B1 B7 and B20 to connect to network.
But all the xiaomi not use the B20 radion
I see it's possible to unlock B20 for smartphone use Qualcom soc ?
I don't know if is possible to unlock the B20 for the Xiaomi Mi4c ? It use a Qualcom 808 soc.
Please help me for use the B20 in the Xiaomi Mi4c
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Unfortunately you can't unlock band 20 at the moment, in fact you might not ever be able to unlock the band. So if it's crucial for you to have band 20, buy a different phone.
However, it's a really nice phone, if if you don't necessarily need the specific band, then this phone is a good buy I believe.
ok thank's a lot
@ggkameleon,
I don't have this phone (yet ) But, my Telco uses Band 20 too.
What I intend to do is use my sim for phone calls/TXT's and get a 'Pay As You Go' LTE sim for Net access.
If you see the most good chines provider don't use B20 Mezu Xiaomi Lenovo why ? And other use it but it's not the more good smartphone or huawei use it but the price are expensive. When you see the last Xiaomi Redmi 3 Redmi note 3 and now MI5 very good smartphone and not expensive.
Hi din't know what is it a 'pay as you go' ?
But if your telco use b20 you can't have 4g lte in b20 ! But if use with b20 the band b7 or b3 the phone connect to b3 or b7 if ist possible or connect to wcdma in 3g network !
But i can't know why meizu pro 5 use the same soc exynos than galaxy s6 and the galaxy s6 work in b20 ! It's not possible to unlock b20 in meizu?
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Hi din't know what is it a 'pay as you go' ?
But if your telco use b20 you can't have 4g lte in b20 ! But if use with b20 the band b7 or b3 the phone connect to b3 or b7 if ist possible or connect to wcdma in 3g network !
But i can't know why meizu pro 5 use the same soc exynos than galaxy s6 and the galaxy s6 work in b20 ! It's not possible to unlock b20 in meizu?
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He meant he'll use a second, prepaid sim to get LTE from another provider who uses a different band. Although it's been said that using the dual sim function on this phone reduces battery life quite a bit.
Yes, if you don't have the correct 4G bands, but do have the 3G or 2G bands, your phone will be fully functional, just not have the best speed possible.
It's not just a matter of having the same soc, it's a combination of soc, radio and firmware. In some phones a workaround can be found to unlock the radio, others not.
Logic_ said:
He meant he'll use a second, prepaid sim to get LTE from another provider who uses a different band. Although it's been said that using the dual sim function on this phone reduces battery life quite a bit.
Yes, if you don't have the correct 4G bands, but do have the 3G or 2G bands, your phone will be fully functional, just not have the best speed possible.
It's not just a matter of having the same soc, it's a combination of soc, radio and firmware. In some phones a workaround can be found to unlock the radio, others not.
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Ah ! Ok but if they are a provider don't use B20 go it ! Don't use two provider ? Ok it's not possible to unlock.
Me in my country (France) They are 4 provider Free use 2600 for 4g, but it's a new provider and they are not many radio in 4g and even less 3g I test it's not possible. Bouygues use for 4g 1800 2600 and a little 800 it's the best for chinese smartphones but where I leave there are not radio Orange use for 4g 800 2600 and in radio there are two band in city but in campaign only 800 Sfr use 800 2600 and use a lot of 800 and it's actually my provider. I speak with users of chinese phone the best are Bouygues or Orange because the one don't use many 800 and the second if don't possible to use 800 the phone go to H+ (wdcma 900) and the speed of 4g 800 it's the almost the same of H+ wcdma 900 !?
If I buy a Xiaomi or Meizu I do change my provider but the smartphone do use the 3G Wdcma 900 ! I believe do use it.
The problem now it's Xiaomi block the boot loader of the new phones ? I see the new Redmi note 3 Pro it's a more good quality but It's more complicated to change language and don't use B20 ! I'm disappointed.... I stay to see what Xiaomi make for international customers.
"He meant he'll use a second, prepaid sim to get LTE from another provider who uses a different band. Although it's been said that using the dual sim function on this phone reduces battery life quite a bit.
Yes, if you don't have the correct 4G bands, but do have the 3G or 2G bands, your phone will be fully functional, just not have the best speed possible.
It's not just a matter of having the same soc, it's a combination of soc, radio and firmware. In some phones a workaround can be found to unlock the radio, others not."
Ok i understand
Yes it's not a good idea to use 2 different provider one don't use b20 and one use it !
Because if you have a provider don't use b20 go for this provider Because you paid 2 provider ! It's just if you are in contract you can make this option but it's more expensive.
In France all provider use b20 ! Only one don't use but there are not enought radio.
Thank you for your message I understand it's to complicated to unlock band and it's possible to use only in 3g.
Yes, too complicated or simply not possible with the hardware. Whatever the case, 3G can be more than sufficient.. I have never done anything with my phone that required more speed than 3G.
However, the phone does have a lot of other LTE bands, be sure to double check if there's not one that matches, it was the case for me.
1(2100), 3(1800), 7(2600), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe according to this, there should be enough in france that match to provide normal LTE operation.
Free Mobile is fine for Mi4c you know
I have LTE in outdoor in all Paris (indoor i'm always on wifi)
Thank you for your support and link
Actually my provider are Sfr (because I have a promotion for one year 10€ calls/sms unlimited ans 20go of data) and I do not want to break this wonderful contract
This provider use fifty/fifty FDD B20 800mhz/B7 2600mhz and UMTS B8 900mhz/B1 2100mhz
That good for Xiaomi Meizu FDD-LTD except FDD B20 800mhz
But there are a new problem with Chinese smartphones the Boatloder are lock now
I use Apple phones after Samsung with 3gs 4s and 5s but now the price of their phones are to much and not as high as the difference of Use Android phones ! It's stupid now to buy a smartphone than 800/1000$ it's not possible to my heart and my wife said go out of home if you buy it !!! Paid us a travel and buy another phones. she's right you know.
I like Xiaomi phones and I stay for the mi5......
jonasb_dk said:
Unfortunately you can't unlock band 20 at the moment, in fact you might not ever be able to unlock the band. So if it's crucial for you to have band 20, buy a different phone.
However, it's a really nice phone, if if you don't necessarily need the specific band, then this phone is a good buy I believe.
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Wat about other bands ?
i used also my Mi4c with 2 SIM cards (one private with Free operator and the second one with SFR for pro usage). No real problem with 800mhz band used by the two operators.
Ok thank you
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i used also my Mi4c with 2 SIM cards (one private with Free operator and the second one with SFR for pro usage). No real problem with 800mhz band used by the two operators.
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Did you unlock any bands on it ?
cy-rock said:
Did you unlock any bands on it ?
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The problem will be in a zone where the SFR antenna will deliver 4G only on the unsupported band, you will have only 3G.
That'all. So, it's up tio you to test in the main zone you are, what bands are used by SFR.
Kéno40 said:
The problem will be in a zone where the SFR antenna will deliver 4G only on the unsupported band, you will have only 3G.
That'all. So, it's up tio you to test in the main zone you are, what bands are used by SFR.
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I know which bands i need or use
...but i tried with qxm and qps to unlock bands on the mi4c but i was unable too !
so i was wondering if anyone else with this device was succesful !
Not possible. Maybe never...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/unlocking-lte-bands-t3215763
Sorry, I let the link for the others, but I've seen you've written something at the end....
You can try to contact him for expertise!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56577252&postcount=455
Kéno40 said:
Not possible. Maybe never...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/unlocking-lte-bands-t3215763
Sorry, I let the link for the others, but I've seen you've written something at the end....
You can try to contact him for expertise!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56577252&postcount=455
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Yeah i read all that ...i was hopiing
thx tho....i can still use band 7 here LTE is doing great ...band 4 would be nice for full coverage especially inside building and metro ...
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Dear All,
I recently got this device in Hong Kong and is hapi with its performance!
But I am still wondering if this device could actually use the LTE available in HK?
I knw the msm8960 claimed to be capable of utilizing all frequency of radio,
so is it possible that there is some soft lock in the baseband?
Could i flash the baseband or replace the modem driver from other device to access other frequency?
any idea is appreciated!
Thanks!
Vasco
I think it has to modifiy the ROm and the hardware
I tried to figure out, if our Photon Q is supporting more LTE bands than 1900 MHz (#2 or/and #25).
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
On some sites there are reports for having another band. (Have to search again, I think it was 850 MHz, #26 or 700 MHz, #12/#17/#29.)
I have also searched for supported frequencies for MSM8960.
I found some BlackBerry devices based on that SoC and 2 different versions of supported LTE bands.
One version (UK) supported 4 in europe used bands und the other version (US) supported 4 in US/Canada used bands.
I think that the Photon Q is like the BlackBerry US version and supports 4 LTE bands in US/Canada.
If you need a few sites, I will search again and show it to you.
The strange thing is, if I set to LTE only (via 4636) I can see all 4 carrier (germany).
We have 3 bands with LTE on it, but I can only get signal to max 2 of them.
Band 3, 7 and 20 (1800, 2600, 800 MHz).
The weird thing is, that on band #20 (800 MHz) only 3 carrier are active, so it has to be band #3 or #7.
Maybe I'm missinterpreting things and thats just a sideeffect of crossing bands of LTE US and UMTS Germany.
On stock ROM there was another "secret phone code" to see what the phone-part is doing. (From qualcomm I believe.)
I think I will test it some other day, to see which band is active.
At last, I was never been able to "login" or "register" into my carriers network within LTE.
Please discuss about that possibility, I really want to find out, which frequencies are supported by our phone on LTE.
Loader009 said:
I tried to figure out, if our Photon Q is supporting more LTE bands than 1900 MHz (#2 or/and #25).
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-UTRA#Frequency_bands_and_channel_bandwidths
On some sites there are reports for having another band. (Have to search again, I think it was 850 MHz, #26 or 700 MHz, #12/#17/#29.)
I have also searched for supported frequencies for MSM8960.
I found some BlackBerry devices based on that SoC and 2 different versions of supported LTE bands.
One version (UK) supported 4 in europe used bands und the other version (US) supported 4 in US/Canada used bands.
I think that the Photon Q is like the BlackBerry US version and supports 4 LTE bands in US/Canada.
If you need a few sites, I will search again and show it to you.
The strange thing is, if I set to LTE only (via 4636) I can see all 4 carrier (germany).
We have 3 bands with LTE on it, but I can only get signal to max 2 of them.
Band 3, 7 and 20 (1800, 2600, 800 MHz).
The weird thing is, that on band #20 (800 MHz) only 3 carrier are active, so it has to be band #3 or #7.
Maybe I'm missinterpreting things and thats just a sideeffect of crossing bands of LTE US and UMTS Germany.
On stock ROM there was another "secret phone code" to see what the phone-part is doing. (From qualcomm I believe.)
I think I will test it some other day, to see which band is active.
At last, I was never been able to "login" or "register" into my carriers network within LTE.
Please discuss about that possibility, I really want to find out, which frequencies are supported by our phone on LTE.
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Dear Loader009,
Thanks for your information! I'm really impressed that you could actually search the carrier in 'LTE only from Germany!
Could you please share the version of ROM you are using?
And if possible, any screenshot? I really want it can be used in HK with LTE(1800, 2100 & 2600Mhz)
Also do you have more information about the secret phone code? I think it would be interesting
Actually, I noted that xt925 and xt905 are using the same chip MSM8960 with LTE usable in HK.
Is there anyone can locate the radio/baseband of their rom and port it for XT897?
I am willing to try it with my machine.
If this work, I think we could use this photon q all over the world!
Any idea?
Regards,
Vasco
disablewong said:
Dear Loader009,
Thanks for your information! I'm really impressed that you could actually search the carrier in 'LTE only from Germany!
Could you please share the version of ROM you are using?
And if possible, any screenshot? I really want it can be used in HK with LTE(1800, 2100 & 2600Mhz)
Also do you have more information about the secret phone code? I think it would be interesting
Actually, I noted that xt925 and xt905 are using the same chip MSM8960 with LTE usable in HK.
Is there anyone can locate the radio/baseband of their rom and port it for XT897?
I am willing to try it with my machine.
If this work, I think we could use this photon q all over the world!
Any idea?
Regards,
Vasco
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Of course, I was just blind guessing the hardware for xt926 and xt907 are using the same hardware.
If not, there should be one chip controlling the modem channel of the device to be replaced.
But WHICH ONE???
Any expert in this area can solve this question? I am a dummy for radio stuffs
This seems like it's getting pretty interesting.
Sent from my XT897 using Tapatalk 2
Dear all,
I'm also very interested in this topic since I imported a Photon Q to Germany and was wondering if it's possible to use the local LTE 800/1800/2600 bands.
I think the first thing we have to find out is whether the hardware is capable of using other bands than the 1900 band listed on the Motorola website. As Loader009 states he could see LTE carriers which are known to use different bands I assume the hardware can do it. Otherwise the carriers wouldn't have been listed, right? Maybe someone from another country with different frequency bands can check and confirm that he can see those carriers as well?
Thus, the limitation to the 1900 band should be software-made and could be modified by a developer. I hope someone can participate at that point as I don't know much about coding...
I'm using CM10.1.
I can't remember the secret phone code, I have to do research again.
This secret phone code only works on Stock ROM. (I stupidly deleted it, when it wasn't working on CM10 anymore.)
The one secret phone code I used to force "LTE only" was *#*#4636#*#*.
Please DON'T change the baseband (don't even tap on it).
This can do problems to you. (I had to use QPST to recover the supported frequencies.)
Also, developers (afaik) can't modify the modem firmware.
We also don't even know, which LTE bands the Photon Q is capable of. (Except 1900 MHz)
I've got my 32GB SDCard back and will test it in the next few days out.
I hope I'll find that secret phone code, I'll also make a few screenshots.
Got the code!
##33284# <- ##DEBUG#
It only works on stock afair!
I'll test tomorrow, it's about 3am now >.<
disablewong said:
Dear All,
I recently got this device in Hong Kong and is hapi with its performance!
But I am still wondering if this device could actually use the LTE available in HK?
I knw the msm8960 claimed to be capable of utilizing all frequency of radio,
so is it possible that there is some soft lock in the baseband?
Could i flash the baseband or replace the modem driver from other device to access other frequency?
any idea is appreciated!
Thanks!
Vasco
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I have read the "QU_SnapdragonS4_White_Paper_FNL_Rev6.pdf" and found there following entry:
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• Industry’s first fully integrated 3G/4G world/multimode LTE Modem: <<<Supports all of the world’s leading 2G, 3G and 4G LTE standards>>>.
It also includes integrated support for multiple satellite position networks (GPS and GLONASS) as well as short range radios via Bluetooth,
WiFi, FM and NFC.
• Designed for speed, compatibility and power savings:
Snapdragon S4 Processor MSM8960 chipset includes the industry’s only complete platform that integrates all of the world’s leading 2G, 3G and 4G mobile broadband modem technologies on a single chip. This new integrated multimode modem is based on an advanced, programmable architecture that is performance, size and power optimized for the fastest combination of modems available for:
- LTE FDD/TDD (Cat3)
- 3G (DC-HSPA+ Cat 24)
- EV-DO Rev. B
- 1x Advanced
- TD-SCDMA
- GSM/GPRS/EDGE NFC.
Multimode/Multiband Means Worldwide Coverage.
• Support for multiple radio frequencies: Mobile broadband technologies are growing increasingly complex in their implementation. LTE is currently being implemented in over 40 diff erent radio frequency bands throughout the world. To complement its wide range of modem standards supported, Qualcomm has designed the Snapdragon S4 Processor MSM8960 CHIPSET platform to <<< address all commonly-used frequencies (from 700–2600 MHz) and bandwidths up to 20 MHz>>>, allowing its customers to address any mobile network opportunity whether the simplest single frequency implementation to the most extensive multi-frequency global mode, whether 4G, 3G or 2G.
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Based on the document the chip can handle all LTE Standards, but it depends on his "advanced, programmable architecture"....as written there and how Motorola / Sprint implemented this, maybe they reduced LTE only to one Standard.
I don't have LTE in my area and so I cannot test this.
That's possibly right.
Something else:
If I remember correctly, somewhere in this forum have been said that for CDMA the internal Sprint "ID"(?) is used.
Maybe that's also the reason why I cannot connect to LTE in my area.
The phone is trying to "login" with the Sprint ID and this of course won't work.
The ##DEBUG# menu wasn't helpfull. It shows frequencies for american standards and not for GSM/WCDMA.
Also the LTE menu is also not very helpfull, it doesn't show frequencies at all.
Any News on this topic?
Maybe one of the developers can give a statement?
Yesterday I tested a LTE compatible SIM card.
My Bro has a Samsung Galaxy S4 with 4G/LTE in my area.
So I've put his SIM-Card into my Photon Q and set LTE only.
I had no luck, the Phone couldn't register into the network for this SIM.
I guess either it has the wrong frequencies or LTE is for inbuilt "SIM" (Sprint SIM?) only.
The latter. LTE is configured only for 1900 MHz which Sprint uses.
LTE is configured only for Sprint's frequencies, however, it supports the United States frequencies of PCS blocks A-G. The G Block is Sprint's current LTE channel, and they may deploy it later on Blocks A through F, depending on if they own the spectrum in a given market. The reason you see EU networks when the phone is in LTE Only Mode is most likely because the Phone still sees GSM signals, but will only connect to LTE ones from those GSM signals. Likewise, in the US, if you force LTE Only and then search for networks, AT&T and T-Mobile US will come up as the GSM carriers the Photon Q sees, rather than the LTE signals it sees.
Setting the Photon to LTE Only will not do anything for LTE in the EU. I suspect that if another carrier in the EU uses the 1900 MHz for LTE, the Photon Q will have no issues connecting to LTE in Europe. But until that time, be happy with HSPA.
Skrilax_CZ said:
LTE is configured only for 1900 MHz which Sprint uses.
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Can this configuration theoretically be changed / other frequencies be added?
Only if you break BP security.
Skrilax_CZ said:
Only if you break BP security.
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Sorry, what's that?
IIRC The only place with 850mhz LTE available is the Chicago market and currently no phones at all support it. :crying:
Not only does your phone need to support it, your PRL and cell-site does too...
Hey guys,
I found the Honor 6 on the web and would like to buy it, but only with NFC.
Unfortunately the version officially available for my country (H60-L04) doesn't support NFC.
Now I'm considering buying an H60-L12 on the web and would be grateful if you could answer the following questions:
Does the H60-L12 work with Austrian networks?
Does 4G/LTE work in Austria?
Is german language available for H60-L12?
I've heard that in the menu there are still some chinese letters, even if you switch the language to English (or another language). Is that true?
Would it be possible to flash the firmware of H60-L04 on H60-L12 and still make use of NFC (and could this also have an effect on network compatibility)?
According to what I've found on the web, the following frequencies are used in Austria:
2G: GSM 900, GSM 1800
3G: UMTS 2100
4G: LTE 2600 (B7 2600, B20 800 FDD)
I've read that the H60-L12 supports the following:
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: UMTS(WCDMA): B1(2100MHz)/B8(900MHz)
4G: FDD-LTE: B1(2100MHz)/B3(1800MHz); TDD-LTE: B41(2496-2690MHz)
So it seems to me that 2G & 3G should work but 4G not? Or maybe it does (don't know what exactly FDD & TDD means and the frequency 2600 would be included in TDD)?
Is there anything else I have to consider?
Optionally: Can you name alternative smartphones for me?
I prefer an android smartphone with display size about 5", 2-4GB RAM, at least 8GB internal memory, SD card slot, infra-red, NFC support, camera should not be that bad.
Fingerprint and LTE would be nice but not a must have.
Regarding UI I like HTC Sense and Emotion UI but I am also open for others.
So far I've had bad experience with samsung phones...
Currently I am using my HTC Sensation XE running ViperS 5.2.1 and love the Venom Tweaks.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Check if there are other network carriers in your country that support B1 or B3 freq bands for 4G. If yes, then 4G will work if you switch to that carrier.
Chinese fonts wont be an issue as it shows only in dialer app where location of call is shown in chinese fonts. It can be removed by changing region via root.
warea said:
Check if there are other network carriers in your country that support B1 or B3 freq bands for 4G. If yes, then 4G will work if you switch to that carrier.
Chinese fonts wont be an issue as it shows only in dialer app where location of call is shown in chinese fonts. It can be removed by changing region via root.
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how i can change region ?
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how i can change region ?
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Root and edit build/local prop.
Hi,
I brought a Moto G from India, before coming the US for doing my masters.
The thing is here it does not pick up 3G or 4G bands. It just works on EDGE.
I wanted to ask if i can use the QPST method to unlock the bands? because I can see no information on it in the forums(for this phone). I am especially confused since it says nothing about dual sim phones and this is the dual sim variant of moto G
It would be great if someone would guide me how i could unlock the bands on my phone.
Regards,
Naved.
I'm almost a 100% sure this wont work but try installing a USA stock rom and a USA stock kernel. But I think the problem is with Sim card though.
Thanks for the help man. I am currently on T-Mobile planning to switch to at and t soon. You think that it'll at least pick up 3g after that?
Sent from my MotoG3 using XDA Free mobile app
Dear Akonsand, finally do you know if I can use the QPST method to unlock the bands of the Moto G3 (XT1541)?
I have the same problem that you...
I'm bumping this just in case there are some news on the subject.
I'm stuck on EDGE with an XT1541 in Argentina and i'm not really sure of what to do... Is there some sub-forum with phone exchanges around the world?
Maybe someone's interested on a trade!
There were some successful attempts at unlocking the bands on the Moto E 2015, but for now there's no hope for the G...
How do you guys see it? Do we have any chance? Should we wait?
Thanks everybody!
Very interested as I have a xt1550 but am on o2 UK and would like to enable lte for this carrier
akonsand said:
Hi,
I brought a Moto G from India, before coming the US for doing my masters.
The thing is here it does not pick up 3G or 4G bands. It just works on EDGE.
I wanted to ask if i can use the QPST method to unlock the bands? because I can see no information on it in the forums(for this phone). I am especially confused since it says nothing about dual sim phones and this is the dual sim variant of moto G
It would be great if someone would guide me how i could unlock the bands on my phone.
Regards,
Naved.
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I am a little confused here... Your Indian model phone should get 3G in the US, but not LTE (I hate it when people say "4G", technically speaking even LTE isn't 4G but that is for another thread), in fact, assuming you have the correct SIM and APN settings, your model should get HSPA+ speeds. LTE is out though... let me explain
3G (HSPA/HSPA+) in the US is 850Mhz and 1900Mhz, in India it is 800Mhz and 1800Mhz, the Moto G supports all 4 of these bands, so it should work in the US just fine.
In the US, several bands are used for LTE such as 2, 4, 5, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, and 41 (granted some bands are very limited or carrier specific), but in India LTE use is exclusively Band 40 by both Aircel and Airtel, and the LTE setup in the Moto G is specific for those countries and does not inter-operate.
So, long story short, with a GSM US carrier SIM and correct APN setup, you should get 3G HSPA+ data connections with no issues on your Indian Moto G, which is probably good enough for most uses and can exceed 8mbps down speeds in many areas.
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I am a little confused here... Your Indian model phone should get 3G in the US, but not LTE (I hate it when people say "4G", technically speaking even LTE isn't 4G but that is for another thread), in fact, assuming you have the correct SIM and APN settings, your model should get HSPA+ speeds. LTE is out though... let me explain
3G (HSPA/HSPA+) in the US is 850Mhz and 1900Mhz, in India it is 800Mhz and 1800Mhz, the Moto G supports all 4 of these bands, so it should work in the US just fine.
In the US, several bands are used for LTE such as 2, 4, 5, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, and 41 (granted some bands are very limited or carrier specific), but in India LTE use is exclusively Band 40 by both Aircel and Airtel, and the LTE setup in the Moto G is specific for those countries and does not inter-operate.
So, long story short, with a GSM US carrier SIM and correct APN setup, you should get 3G HSPA+ data connections with no issues on your Indian Moto G, which is probably good enough for most uses and can exceed 8mbps down speeds in many areas.
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Hey thanks for the reply man.
I think even HSPA or HSPA+ might not work for me on this phone. I am using a T Mobile family plan here, and comparing th bands given on the website:
"4G (HSPA+)
With 4G, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps up to 42 Mbps. You can take advantage of incredibly fast download speeds, and even use voice and data services at the same time.
Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
3G (HSPA)
With 3G, theoretical maximum download of 14 Mbps. With 3G, you can use voice and data services simultaneously.
Frequencies: Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)"
and the bands my phone supports(from the motorola website)
"Moto G (XT1550)
LTE (1, 3, 7, 8, 28,40) UMTS/HSPA+ (900, 2100, 850 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)"
It seems that the uplink is unsupported by my phone and so the phone is unable to use the HSPA/HSPA+ bands. I think the only way to use it is to unlock the 1700 MHz band on my phone.
(BTW Tmobile quotes HSPA+ as 4G and thats hilarious lol)
akonsand said:
Hey thanks for the reply man.
I think even HSPA or HSPA+ might not work for me on this phone. I am using a T Mobile family plan here, and comparing th bands given on the website:
"4G (HSPA+)
With 4G, theoretical maximum download speeds range from 21 Mbps up to 42 Mbps. You can take advantage of incredibly fast download speeds, and even use voice and data services at the same time.
Frequencies: Band 2 (1900 MHz), Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)
3G (HSPA)
With 3G, theoretical maximum download of 14 Mbps. With 3G, you can use voice and data services simultaneously.
Frequencies: Band 4 (1700/2100 MHz)"
and the bands my phone supports(from the motorola website)
"Moto G (XT1550)
LTE (1, 3, 7, 8, 28,40) UMTS/HSPA+ (900, 2100, 850 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)"
It seems that the uplink is unsupported by my phone and so the phone is unable to use the HSPA/HSPA+ bands. I think the only way to use it is to unlock the 1700 MHz band on my phone.
(BTW Tmobile quotes HSPA+ as 4G and thats hilarious lol)
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Most us carriers say HSPA+ is 4G...
Tmobile is great in many regards, except if you have an international phone like the Moto G and they do not have the correct bands implemented in your area, which it appears they do not... Honestly, consider moving to AT&T Wireless or an AT&T based MVNO like Cricket, Straight Talk AT&T, or Go Phone, it might cost a little more but you could get HSPA+ with no issues. 850Mhz is AT&T's primary HSPA/HSPA+ frequency, and 1900Mhz is added to congested areas, but this varies by area... before going all in I suggest trying a SIM from a buddy or go the AT&T (corporate) store and ask to test a SIM just to be sure. But regardless you should get UMTS/GSM speeds on AT&T, which is way better than Edge, averaging anywhere from 500kbps-2mbps.
If TMo is essential or you can't change for whatever reason or live without HSPA+/LTE, consider getting a Blu phone or Moto E locally, they are relatively inexpensive (under $150) and are not amazing but will probably do the job.
acejavelin said:
Most us carriers say HSPA+ is 4G...
Tmobile is great in many regards, except if you have an international phone like the Moto G and they do not have the correct bands implemented in your area, which it appears they do not... Honestly, consider moving to AT&T Wireless or an AT&T based MVNO like Cricket, Straight Talk AT&T, or Go Phone, it might cost a little more but you could get HSPA+ with no issues. 850Mhz is AT&T's primary HSPA/HSPA+ frequency, and 1900Mhz is added to congested areas, but this varies by area... before going all in I suggest trying a SIM from a buddy or go the AT&T (corporate) store and ask to test a SIM just to be sure. But regardless you should get UMTS/GSM speeds on AT&T, which is way better than Edge, averaging anywhere from 500kbps-2mbps.
If TMo is essential or you can't change for whatever reason or live without HSPA+/LTE, consider getting a Blu phone or Moto E locally, they are relatively inexpensive (under $150) and are not amazing but will probably do the job.
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Cool Alright. I actually had a chance to join AT & T family plan but didn't join it because T-mobile was giving more data :facepalm:
Ill see if i can switch to an AT & T network.
Thanks for your help one again man!
akonsand said:
Cool Alright. I actually had a chance to join AT & T family plan but didn't join it because T-mobile was giving more data :facepalm:
Ill see if i can switch to an AT & T network.
Thanks for your help one again man!
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Try to test it first, just to be sure.
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akonsand said:
Hi,
I brought a Moto G from India, before coming the US for doing my masters.
The thing is here it does not pick up 3G or 4G bands. It just works on EDGE.
I wanted to ask if i can use the QPST method to unlock the bands? because I can see no information on it in the forums(for this phone). I am especially confused since it says nothing about dual sim phones and this is the dual sim variant of moto G
It would be great if someone would guide me how i could unlock the bands on my phone.
Regards,
Naved.
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so far i know these are hardware specs and cannot be unlocked or changed.i mean to say moto g 2015 has different variants based upon hardware specs of their band support
If you started using att with your xt1550 ..how is it? Do you get 3g or lte?
I didn't start using it. Currently stuck with a group plan.. But I tried using a friends sim card.. 3g does work well with at n t.
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Thanks for letting me know... I wish there was a way to get 'lte' ...someone has to come up with a way to unlock the bands lol. Thanks
I am currently having the samw problem, i bought a moto g which lte and 3g bands do not work in argentina. I tried the qpst method, but i got stuck in step 12 of the guide. If someone could make it work and explain how they did it, it would be awesome.
KentianAylomen said:
I am currently having the samw problem, i bought a moto g which lte and 3g bands do not work in argentina. I tried the qpst method, but i got stuck in step 12 of the guide. If someone could make it work and explain how they did it, it would be awesome.
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Same here...I am trying qpst also but rf.nv manager keeps getting an error for me. Maybe we can work together on this. I also can't figure out the hidden menu..unless its *#*#4636#*#*
KentianAylomen said:
I am currently having the samw problem, i bought a moto g which lte and 3g bands do not work in argentina. I tried the qpst method, but i got stuck in step 12 of the guide. If someone could make it work and explain how they did it, it would be awesome.
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hello i have the same problem with my moto g, i like to know if somebody have a solution (lo compre en andorra y aca en argentina no funciona, queria saber si aderribo o kentianAylomen lo habian resuelto mi correo es [email protected])
francoferrer said:
hello i have the same problem with my moto g, i like to know if somebody have a solution (lo compre en andorra y aca en argentina no funciona, queria saber si aderribo o kentianAylomen lo habian resuelto mi correo es [email protected])
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Hey , I'm from argentina too and have the same problem. Could someone fix it? (hablemos en castellano)
The same problem with rf.nv manager. It always stops when I want to setting the COM. I edited some things of the program... Didn't work.
I bought Xiaomi mi4 64 gb from china last year. To my surprise only 2g network was connected and no 3g and LTE. I don't have much idea about it. I live in India, forget 4g, if there is any method through which I can connect my phone to 3g band I'll be grateful. If someone can explain me how to unlock all 3g bands and that will possibly connect the 3g band of India, it will be of great help. I have already used the phone in 2g network for a year and it's pain in the @ss. I found recently that by unlocking it is possible to use global bands. PLEASE HELP!!!!! THANK YOU!!!
Did you buy TD-LTE version? FDD-LTE is used in most countries.
Most probably YES
Probably Yes. Otherwise the problem of network might not be there.
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Did you buy TD-LTE version? FDD-LTE is used in most countries.
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Q : Is it possible to activate, do coding, install or flash the phone to obtain Full range of 5G LTE 3G bands on this device for EU ? It was bought from Japan and it's set for this market.
I don't know wehere to start, it's a very good device and I'm well used to it, but I live in rural area where LTE band 20 is dominant, lack of it causing a lot of problems while on the move.
Any ideas ?
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Q : Is it possible to activate, do coding, install or flash the phone to obtain Full range of 5G LTE 3G bands on this device for EU ? It was bought from Japan and it's set for this market.
I don't know wehere to start, it's a very good device and I'm well used to it, but I live in rural area where LTE band 20 is dominant, lack of it causing a lot of problems while on the move.
Any ideas ?
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Same problem in my country but I changed operators and it worked.