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[Q] (Q) Possible for Netflix?

My question is for anyone who already has the Transformer. I understand that it will connect to your desktop, as a mirror. Does this work for Netflix? If you have Netflix on your computer and you connect the Transformer to it, will it stream through properly?
Also, can you connect to your computer if you are at work, or just away from home, or is it when only on the same home network? Not sure I've ever seen this question answered specifically.
Thanks for your info.......

Yes, using the built in software, it should be fast enough. nascar.com uses a very flash heavy app for ausio/raceview and when I use splashtop on my iphone, it works perfectly with audio and their live 3d video with no stuttering.

Cool, thanks......should suffice until the Netflix app gets ok'ed.......

Semi-related question: Are we sure about, hoping for, or excluding the possibility of the NetFlix App coming to this device? I remember some big controversy about most Android devices not being able to run NetFlix due to DRM or something?

The Nvidia Tegra 2 processor basically lacks the hardware DRM required by the RIAA. They have ridiculous requirement, but Netflix has stated it is in the works. Motorola has been OK'd and it sounds like Netflix will come on a device by device basis.

Hopefully some devs will be able to get the Xoom version running on this tab (if it comes to the Xoom, or other Tegra device). Apparently DRM is built into Honeycomb, so I'm the hardware limitation wont matter. It seems like a better way to implement DRM anyway, it seems like it would make the applications more universal.

rcm_rx7 said:
Hopefully some devs will be able to get the Xoom version running on this tab (if it comes to the Xoom, or other Tegra device). Apparently DRM is built into Honeycomb, so I'm the hardware limitation wont matter. It seems like a better way to implement DRM anyway, it seems like it would make the applications more universal.
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There won't be a "Xoom" version. There will be a Honeycomb version, which will run on the Transformer, the Iconia, and the Xoom.

You wont be able to just go to the Netflix website and stream, they use Microsoft Silverlight for the DRM streaming
Currently only Snapdragon processors will have Netflix support
Here is a quote about Netflix and the Tegra 2 from January, 2011
"Netflix is using the Tegra 2 development platform to bring the Netflix experience to Android super phones and tablets. We're working closely with NVIDIA to ensure Netflix takes full advantage of Tegra's outstanding acceleration and security capabilities." -- Greg Peters, Vice President, Product Development at Netflix
http://pressroom.nvidia.com/easyir/...prid=704926&releasejsp=release_157&xhtml=true

Zach Alt said:
There won't be a "Xoom" version. There will be a Honeycomb version, which will run on the Transformer, the Iconia, and the Xoom.
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I was referring to the post above me stating it will be on a device by device basis. While I think it's stupid to do that, it's happened before. Think Skype.

[Q] Noob question about ICS

I am getting a bit confused with all the different versions of android.
ICS should be based on android 4.0.x and xoom is a tablet which uses android 3.0.x.
What happens to all the apps that are tablet only? aka only 3.0.x? Will they still run on 4.0.X?

Shadowwoelf said:
I am getting a bit confused with all the different versions of android.
ICS should be based on android 4.0.x and xoom is a tablet which uses android 3.0.x.
What happens to all the apps that are tablet only? aka only 3.0.x? Will they still run on 4.0.X?
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The Xoom has the hardware capability to run Android 4.0. The apps that work on Honeycomb (and gingerbread, froyo, etc) mostly work on ice cream sandwich, but the developer of the apps need to update their apps to make them compatible.

So google is just making it so the phone/tablet work on the same version? No more updates for 3.0.X?

Shadowwoelf said:
So google is just making it so the phone/tablet work on the same version? No more updates for 3.0.X?
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As far as I know, correct.

This is actually something that mildly concerns me. I have paid for a few tablet only apps. I assume these will be supported with ICS.
But what about apps that were paid for in GB? Say someone bought Splashtop for phones and they are running a phone with GB that gets upgraded to ICS. Will the app they purchased still be able to run on their device? Will it be optimized for ICS? Or will they need to buy the "tablet only" version?
I have a feeling this will be on an app by app (or developer by developer) case, but hopefully there won't be many issues.

Apps will have to be updated to work with ICS
Think about it. These apps, in order to remain relevant, will need to be updated to ICS, sooner rather than later. It's the new OS that all new and many older devices will be running. So don't worry...it will take a bit, but will probably work out better for us in the long run, as all those apps scaled for phones will also be able to scale for the Xoom.

Cubanluke88 said:
This is actually something that mildly concerns me. I have paid for a few tablet only apps. I assume these will be supported with ICS.
But what about apps that were paid for in GB? Say someone bought Splashtop for phones and they are running a phone with GB that gets upgraded to ICS. Will the app they purchased still be able to run on their device? Will it be optimized for ICS? Or will they need to buy the "tablet only" version?
I have a feeling this will be on an app by app (or developer by developer) case, but hopefully there won't be many issues.
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Out of all the apps I have on my Xoom. So far I only have 1 app that won't run on ICS and supposedly the developer is working on an upgrade. And a good portion of those are regular phone apps. Don't sweat it. Most developers are very responsible and provide upgrades to paying customers. And the advantages of ICS are worth it.

[Q] Difference between Stock vs. Custom ICS on codec support?

I'm new to Xoom. I use Samsung Galaxy S2, where if you use a non-stock ROM like Cyanogenmod, you lose hardware decoding support for many video codecs. That's the reason I always use stock-based ROMs on my phone.
I flashed Team EOS ICS rom on my Xoom almost as soon as I brought it home, and I love it. However, I wonder if I lost any hardware video decoding support compared to stock. Any help?

After using both stock and TEOS, I haven't noticed any huge difference between the two in video playback, or at least what I use of them.
If you really wanted to try it out, you can always flash your XOOM back to stock using the images that Motorola supplies, then update to ICS if required, then see if anything is missing. I haven't personally done this myself, but in theory it should work.

The xoom uses hardware accelerated decoding supported by nvidia firmware. In that context, decoding is identical.

adobe won't support flash on Jelly Bean, your thoughts?

Adobe announced today that they won't support flash on jelly bean devices, what do you think I know that I would miss slash very much as many web sites out there use flash as their primary way of streaming video, true some a them support Html 5, but most of them don't, what do you think?

Jelly Bean isn't much of a change system wise from ICS (most of the changes were added software) and users have reported success with the ICS version of flash working on JB.
Seeing how slow its been getting ICS on non Nexus devices, its probably going to be 2013 before we see JB shipping on most new devices. Its around 1.5 to 2 years before most people switch to a new device unless you have to have the latest. If market share of new Android versions continues to be lagging its likely JB won't be unsupported by new software until around 2015.
Hopefully by them HTML5 will be more widely used, or else we'll get enough JB users that refuse to upgrade forcing developers to still support it, kind of like Windows XP.

Since we've had Linux boot on the Surface RT, will Android at some point?

Yeah most stuff doesn't work on Linux at the moment but maybe?

Today successfully booted up windows 10 arm on my surface rt.
I am so hasppy android ports are coming to this tablet

pedrofssf94 said:
Today successfully booted up windows 10 arm on my surface rt.
I am so hasppy android ports are coming to this tablet
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well dang

FoxyDrew said:
Who told you android ports are coming to this tablet? lol glad your optimistic though
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Actually yes, Android 5.1 is coming to this tablet.
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Actually yes, Android 5.1 is coming to this tablet.
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You do know no one can see that because you would need to be in the discord server that we dont have an invite to lol

In theory It would work...
Older versions supported ARM32 pretty well and since Linux is already working It would not be harder to port Android to The surface RT and 2.
The problem is that these devices are almost 10 years old and few people care about them anymore.
Even with Android installed running apps with 2gb of very aged memory would prove to be a pretty bad experience...

Nicknackpaddywack101 said:
In theory It would work...
Older versions supported ARM32 pretty well and since Linux is already working It would not be harder to port Android to The surface RT and 2.
The problem is that these devices are almost 10 years old and few people care about them anymore.
Even with Android installed running apps with 2gb of very aged memory would prove to be a pretty bad experience...
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Eh, I've run worse. I have a moto E LTE running android 9 (RR Custom Rom based on a GO version of android) and it runs fine (1gb of ram and a worse cpu than the RT) sure it would be nice to have more ram but it works.

WinDVD said:
Eh, I've run worse. I have a moto E LTE running android 9 (RR Custom Rom based on a GO version of android) and it runs fine (1gb of ram and a worse cpu than the RT) sure it would be nice to have more ram but it works.
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Yes, I understand your point. But the fact is that it had Android to start with, with the surface RT you have to use loopholes and bugs to get Linux working in a inefficient way and even the currently working(sort of ) Raspbian based Linux system has a bunch of bugs and missing drivers etc. Power control lacks behind Windows RT (mentiond here:https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/porting-chromium-to-windows-rt.2095686/post-87719273. The sad fact that this device is already 10years old means that it is unlikely people would pay attention to it and use it to develop Android, and even with Android installed the experience would be very limited due to the ram. support would be almost non-existent similar to what happened to the windows phones that got unofficial CM versions. Developers are already moving away from ARM32 to newer ARM64 and a few years later most apps would have a minimum api equivalent to android 6.
There is still a silver lining though. RT devices are dirt cheap since they are almost or practically useless now and Android still has excellent backward compatibility. Anyone who really has interest and the time could pick up the pieces of the Linux project and move on with doing it, but it still would not be easy.
Maybe a crowdfunding project could give devs some incentive?

But for now you could try to run a vm in linux or simply run their linux equivalents. Chromium, firefox, WPS office etc. Raspbian is compatible wih the snap store too, so you could use it just like ubuntu.
I am not trying to pour cold water on your idea, and I really look forward to this project taking off. However, there ultimately is a reason why Windows RT and their RT devices failed to take off.

working with the progress made with opensurface-rt, we managed to get android 7.0 booting on the surface RT using the 3.4 kernel, got wifi working, but minor gpu bugs that make it an unstable setup. had a play about with 4.4 and 5.1 too. android 7.1.1 and above have critical gpu bugs which make it completely unusable. and probably unfixable. development into getting other devices such as sound, camera, bluetooth etc has yet to be done. so far we have, screen, touch screen, type/touch keyboard, 2d/3d gpu working. recorded a quick video of it running
maybe it would be possible to get all things sorted but it's quite the task.

jethro tarw said:
working with the progress made with opensurface-rt, we managed to get android 7.0 booting on the surface RT using the 3.4 kernel, got wifi working, but minor gpu bugs that make it an unstable setup. had a play about with 4.4 and 5.1 too. android 7.1.1 and above have critical gpu bugs which make it completely unusable. and probably unfixable. development into getting other devices such as sound, camera, bluetooth etc has yet to be done. so far we have, screen, touch screen, type/touch keyboard, 2d/3d gpu working. recorded a quick video of it running
maybe it would be possible to get all things sorted but it's quite the task.
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Wow! Nice work! Would be interested to know the team behind this marvelous project. (since you mentioned 'we')
Also probably should embed the boot screen with your team's name...