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Honeycomb apps on Kindle Fire?

What was the determination on running Honeycomb apps on the Kindle Fire? I had read somewhere that they would not work because they were only compatible with HC but has anyone actually tried to see if they will run? I would be very curious to know if they work because the phone apps are a little awkward at times on the larger screen of the kindle.
If someone has apks for any HC apps and would be willing to post them I'd be more than happy to try them out and report back with what works and what doesn't, maybe get a dedicated compatibility list going until someone releases an ICS rom for kindle.

The Fire is running Gingerbread so any HC apps would refuse to install. If HC had been open source Amazon probably would have used it since it is more suited for tablets.
They will probably issue an update with ICS so tablet apps can be used, but since the Kindle runs such a heavily modified version of Android, it will be a while before we see an Amazon issued ICS update.

This would be so awesome I've been doing a lot of searching on this for the past hour. It seems the consistent answer is that we have to wait for ics.. :-!

We may see CM9 on this long before Amazon releases an update. They already have ICS booting on the Fire and it looks pretty stable, but there isn't much hardware support yet. Looks promising though:
http://moooom.dyndns.info/?p=107

why?
what makes honeycomb apps special anyway ? i never used any tablet that runs honeycomb

buhind said:
what makes honeycomb apps special anyway ? i never used any tablet that runs honeycomb
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Many of the apps are more tablet optimized to take advantage of the extra screen space provided. If you look up Gmail for honeycomb you can see what I mean.

Honeycomb Gmail actually kind of sucks on a 7" tablet. It's really made for the 10"ers, on a 7" it's just crammed like you're back on a 2.5" phone screen.

[Q] Generic Chinese Clone Devices

Ok, so I'm pretty new to this whole Android thing, but I'm not daft and know a think or two about computers and software, so I'm not a complete 'noob'...
However, to spare me the drama of trawling through thousands of pages, I have a few quick concise questions, and would appreciate concise answers.
So I bought a generic handset, branded as an Onyx Dragon though AnTuTu benchmark app tells me its a Yusu... details and specs from Chinavision.com (search Onyx Dragon).
I initially bought it because I needed a new phone (been on a Moto V3 Razr for about 6 years!) so got this cos it was cheap and looked good. Runs Froyo on what I have found to be pretty **** hardware (MT6516, advertised as 416MHz but shown to be around 207MHz, but not sure if this is main CPU or radio core...) with not a lot of RAM. I installed an 8Gb SD card to save the apps and keep as much free internal space as possible, in case the OS supports disc memory (?). The wireless is good and screen works well, but the GPS, navigation and camera are rubbish, but they are not why I bought it; I have a decent camera and I can read a map. Its definitely 'entry level' so I'm not too bothered if I brick it.
Since I got it, and seeing the many cheap 'clones' out there, I'm keen to get into them a bit more and start developing. I already rooted it with z4root, BusyBox and Superuser all installed fine. ROM Manager is running but because I don't know the actual brand I'm not yet running ClockWorkMod (doesn't show up in the list). I'm keen to install Gingerbread or maybe even CyanogenMod 7, but cannot flash the ROM without CWM. Can anyone tell me what phone 'model' I should use for this particular handset?
I can't overclock the chipset, but have been looking at other clones to play with, such as htc Incredible G11i Pro clone from etotalk.com and 'CyberStar' 3G handset with MT6573 650MHz chipset (also from Chinavision).
Does anyone have any knowledge/experience with these clones? They look great and if they work as well as the budget model I have now then there is certainly potential. Sure, they may not be as good as a genuine Galaxy or Nexus, but then the price reflects that. However, as a cheap development platform you can't really go wrong! I'd like to see faster processors and more hardware mod ability such as clocking, just to see what is possible. Anyone tried ICS on one of these? I read elsewhere that if Froyo runs ok on a cheap device then GB should be better. My friend has GB 2.3.3 on a genuine $500 Galaxy S2 and I'd love to show him up with a rooted and clocked clone running ICS for a fraction of the price!!
Well, thats not as concise as I would like, but it covers pretty much everything. One last thing though, I cannot install ES File Explorer 1.6.1, it will download from Market and attempt to install but then fail. The latest version I have is the pre-installed 1.4.2.2. I've tried everything I can think of; downloading on my Mac and copying via USB to install from Astro making sure ES is not running, failed. Tried uninstalling ES with ROM Toolbox having root access and disabled AVG, failed. Tried to launch new version from package options, failed. I have installed ES Task Manager v1.2 but cannot use all the features as it says File Explorer needs to be updated, and needless to say updating it from the prompts failed as well... Any ideas? I'm thinking a flash to GB should include the latest version (or better alternative).
Thanks all in advance!

I don't think it's possible to run ICS on such a low spec'd device. This onyx dragon runs on a 416Mhz ARM9 processor with a 200 Mhz ARM7 GPU. Even the G1 that uses a 528Mhz ARM11 CPU can't run ICS well. I would suggest that you give up on theses crappy chineses devices. If you don't have money you can find a LG Optimus One for 100 bucks on ebay and it is A LOT better than any of these chinese crap phones
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For CWM, take a look at this site http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html and the quote below
Don't see your phone? Email me if you want to help me get it working!
And of course, all the source can be found on Github.
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Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?

droidscope said:
Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?
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Yes you are right about honeycomb. As for the device. Without kernel source which will never be released due to copyright issues you may have a bit of trouble Modding it. CM only supports authentic devices and not clones as the hardware specs as you learned are faked and never true.

droidscope said:
Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?
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Hi droidscope,
Not all the Chinese phones are crap there are a few very capable phones now entering the market and they are catching up the bigboys rapidly.
For more info & reviews on the latest Chinese phones check over here http://www.gizchina.com/category/phones/ Try to stick with the branded chinese phones such as Zopo, ZTE, Newman etc because there is at least some support where as the direct copy/clones have no support at all. If buying try to get the phone pre rooted because some of the Chinese phone are getting more difficult to root. I would look here http://www.etotalk.com/ if buying and select the MOD ROM $4.99 for most phones then the phone will come pre rooted with working playstore language etc. They do not 1 to 1 copys although some of the phones have more than a passing look of some of the more famous brands. I have used them a few times and they have not let me down be sure to email them first to ask about stock levels though.

Jelly Bean for our Asus

Hey guys do you think will we get android 4.1 for tf101 ??
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Given Asus' lackluster response to updating the TF101, I will be putting my money on CM10/AOKP when those guys gets working.
Also, in my experience, all of the problems I've had with my TF101 has gone away when I've replaced Asus' firmware with third party firmware. Chances are if Asus comes out with JB for the TF101, I still wont be running their build.

I think we will see a Jelly Bean update since Asus is actually really good with their updates and this should improve the performance considerably. I see so much despair about the lack of updates with the TF101 but compared to the MyTouch Slide 4g that I own it has an amazing amount of support. Asus has been good to us rooters and tech nerds more than any other company outside of Google itself! So yeah, I would expect an announcement in the next few months and maybe an update around October if we are lucky.
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I think we will see a Jelly Bean update since Asus is actually really good with their updates and this should improve the performance considerably. I see so much despair about the lack of updates with the TF101 but compared to the MyTouch Slide 4g that I own it has an amazing amount of support. Asus has been good to us rooters and tech nerds more than any other company outside of Google itself! So yeah, I would expect an announcement in the next few months and maybe an update around October if we are lucky.
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Agreed. If anything, asus has been almost TOO fast with updates and ends up borking things.

If you're an avid flash user I wouldn't rush to get JB anyway.
Adobe will stop flash support for JB.

baseballfanz said:
If you're an avid flash user I wouldn't rush to get JB anyway.
Adobe will stop flash support for JB.
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From Adobe:
Beginning August 15th we will use the configuration settings in the Google Play Store to limit continued access to Flash Player updates to only those devices that have Flash Player already installed. Devices that do not have Flash Player already installed are increasingly likely to be incompatible with Flash Player and will no longer be able to install it from the Google Play Store after August 15th.
The easiest way to ensure ongoing access to Flash Player on Android 4.0 or earlier devices is to use certified devices and ensure that the Flash Player is either pre-installed by the manufacturer or installed from Google Play Store before August 15th. If a device is upgraded from Android 4.0 to Android 4.1, the current version of Flash Player may exhibit unpredictable behavior, as it is not certified for use with Android 4.1. Future updates to Flash Player will not work. We recommend uninstalling Flash Player on devices which have been upgraded to Android 4.1.

This is my one quarrel with JB, darned Adobe >:c

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This is my one quarrel with JB, darned Adobe >:c
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that and the fact that chrome is the default browser so you need to install another one just to use flash

Will it even work though? Flash on JB

they said it may work but it is not supported its like running a honeycomb app on ics it may work or it may not
an dim pretty sure i read somewhere that it was up to the oem's to support it
"ensure that the Flash Player is either pre-installed by the manufacturer or installed from Google Play Store before August 15th. If a device is upgraded from Android 4.0 to Android 4.1, the current version of Flash Player may exhibit unpredictable behavior, as it is not certified for use with Android 4.1. Future updates to Flash Player will not work. We recommend uninstalling Flash Player on devices which have been upgraded to Android 4.1."

Flash works fine on my Gnex with 4.1

xeloni said:
Hey guys do you think will we get android 4.1 for tf101 ??
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Most likely. The Motorola Xoom is confirmed to receive 4.1 already so why not the transformer? They both have the same specs.
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that and the fact that chrome is the default browser so you need to install another one just to use flash
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Chrome is the default browser on the Nexus7, not jellybean.

Google now export to more and ICS and jellybean

so Google Now is super amazing, but more importantly super fast. I just imported it onto my Stock ICS acer icona A500 tab it works, but has some major bugs. It makes searching everything and anything fast and so I wondered why wouldn't Google port this to more devices? not like gingerbread or froyo, no my real question is why isn't this on computers? built into a google chome extension or into chrome intself? I don't think it would be possible for XDA developers to do this (both because this is a mobile focused place and because it sounds extremely difficult) ,but! if they did it, would be priceless. So what what do you guys think?
(wow I screwed up the title it's suppost to be; than ICS and jellybean, not and ICS and jellybean)

I think of the reasons why it cannot be ported to other phones is that Google Now runs optimally in a Jelly Bean-based kernel. That's why even though the devs have ported it to ICS ROMs, it is still having some problems. And if the device is running anything before ICS, then forget about it. The difference in kernels is the main roadblock.
And who needs Google Now in a browser, when google glasses comes out?

[Q] Downgrade tab2

Please can anyone tell me if its possible to downgrade my tab2 to gingerbread, at the moment its on jelly bean cm10, I only use this tab as a games machine and almost every game ive put on it won't work.I have a galaxy player 5 wifi and it plays anything I throw at it.If I can't downgrade then I may as well give the tab to my local charity shop.If I buy windows7 then I can run old software in compatiblity mode,why can't I do this with android?.It seems to me that ICS and JB are a complete waste of time,resource hungry and not very stable.Thanks in advance for any help

They likely aren't compatible with your tablet because the game developers haven't put support for it in the game. Downgrading to Gingerbread, even if it were possible, wouldn't fix this. The game would likely run just fine on the tablet, but the market is setup to allow/deny on a device by device basis, and the game developers apparently haven't allowed whatever model you have. I'm also guessing that you probably didn't bother contacting any of the game developers to see if they would support the tablet? That would have been more useful than posting here.

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Thanks for your reply,I did contact a lot of developers and almost all of them said that because the games were old as they put it, there was no point in modifying them to work on newer versions of android,the bottom line is that i have wasted a lot of money paying for games that are not backwards compatible with new version of the android os.I'm very disappointed as this tablet for all intents and purposes is nothing but a door stop.

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Thanks for your reply,I did contact a lot of developers and almost all of them said that because the games were old as they put it, there was no point in modifying them to work on newer versions of android,the bottom line is that i have wasted a lot of money paying for games that are not backwards compatible with new version of the android os.I'm very disappointed as this tablet for all intents and purposes is nothing but a door stop.
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How can something be "backwards compatible" with a newer version? And my tablet works just fine for me and several others. I'm guessing that you could install the games and they would work fine on the tablet, just that the developer(s) don't want to try and test them on the newer versions of Android. In the end, all they're doing is hurting themselves and losing money.

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How can something be "backwards compatible" with a newer version? And my tablet works just fine for me and several others. I'm guessing that you could install the games and they would work fine on the tablet, just that the developer(s) don't want to try and test them on the newer versions of Android. In the end, all they're doing is hurting themselves and losing money.
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What I meant by backwards compatible is that I can run win98 or xp software on a windows 7 machine so why can't I run gingerbread software on jelly bean or ICS.And your right they are losing money my money!!,if I can't get gingerbread or honeycomb on this tab then its history and I shall be looking at an ipad,from what i've seen anything runs on an ipad no matter how old it is,dont get me wrong I'm not slagging off android but this tablet isn't fit for the purpose that I bought it for.I know this probably isnt the right place but my wifes iphone runs 3 year old software on ios6.So if anyone can tell me how to get gingerbread or honeycomb on this tablet I will be forever in their debt because they will stop me from going over to the dark side which I don't really want to do.

Backwards compatible would mean that it is meant for ICS or Jelly Bean but runs on Gingerbread, Froyo, or something older, not the other way around. And whatever games or apps you want to run likely would work fine on the tablet running ICS or Jelly Bean, but the developer is probably to lazy to even try and test it, or allow people to download it. Then again, since you think forward compatibility is the same as backwards compatibility, I wouldn't expect you to know much about how the market is setup to allow/deny apps on devices.

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imnuts said:
Backwards compatible would mean that it is meant for ICS or Jelly Bean but runs on Gingerbread, Froyo, or something older, not the other way around. And whatever games or apps you want to run likely would work fine on the tablet running ICS or Jelly Bean, but the developer is probably to lazy to even try and test it, or allow people to download it. Then again, since you think forward compatibility is the same as backwards compatibility, I wouldn't expect you to know much about how the market is setup to allow/deny apps on devices.
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I can see that I'm flogging a dead horse here, my original post said that I tried all these games and apps already and they dont work with jb or ics,which is why I want to downgrade,my tab2 is now wedging the door open and I have gone back to my galaxy player 5.0 on gingerbread,the tab2 is going on ebay and the first bid over a fiver gets it.

Why not try device spoofer as last resort or changing build prop file
But make a nandroid backup first
What are the names of games you try to operate?
No gingerbread in tab2, as the device sell with ics out of the box, may be try tab1
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