What was the determination on running Honeycomb apps on the Kindle Fire? I had read somewhere that they would not work because they were only compatible with HC but has anyone actually tried to see if they will run? I would be very curious to know if they work because the phone apps are a little awkward at times on the larger screen of the kindle.
If someone has apks for any HC apps and would be willing to post them I'd be more than happy to try them out and report back with what works and what doesn't, maybe get a dedicated compatibility list going until someone releases an ICS rom for kindle.
The Fire is running Gingerbread so any HC apps would refuse to install. If HC had been open source Amazon probably would have used it since it is more suited for tablets.
They will probably issue an update with ICS so tablet apps can be used, but since the Kindle runs such a heavily modified version of Android, it will be a while before we see an Amazon issued ICS update.
This would be so awesome I've been doing a lot of searching on this for the past hour. It seems the consistent answer is that we have to wait for ics.. :-!
We may see CM9 on this long before Amazon releases an update. They already have ICS booting on the Fire and it looks pretty stable, but there isn't much hardware support yet. Looks promising though:
http://moooom.dyndns.info/?p=107
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what makes honeycomb apps special anyway ? i never used any tablet that runs honeycomb
buhind said:
what makes honeycomb apps special anyway ? i never used any tablet that runs honeycomb
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Many of the apps are more tablet optimized to take advantage of the extra screen space provided. If you look up Gmail for honeycomb you can see what I mean.
Honeycomb Gmail actually kind of sucks on a 7" tablet. It's really made for the 10"ers, on a 7" it's just crammed like you're back on a 2.5" phone screen.
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Hey everyone! I am interested in making a list of Android Tablet-Compatible Apps. Could you do me a favor and list the ones that you use that are compatible with your tablets? I'd really appreciate it!
jerry43812 said:
Hey everyone! I am interested in making a list of Android Tablet-Compatible Apps. Could you do me a favor and list the ones that you use that are compatible with your tablets? I'd really appreciate it!
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What do you mean "Tablet-Compatible"? If you just mean apps that run ok on the Tab in fullscreen mode, then that's going to be a BIG list as the majority of things work fine.
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What do you mean "Tablet-Compatible"? If you just mean apps that run ok on the Tab in fullscreen mode, then that's going to be a BIG list as the majority of things work fine.
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I think he means apps optomized for the tablet form factor and size; apps like pulse. This is as opposed to apps that simply scale well like the Kindle app which works fine and scales fine but the whole applications i still the same exact app that is the one being used on 3-4 inch phones. compare the regular kindle app to the iPad version of the kindle app and you'll see the difference between something that works well on a tablet and something designed to be used on a tablet
That's exactly what I mean, is optimized to run on the Tablets as compared to optimized for a 3-4 inch phone.
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I think he means apps optomized for the tablet form factor and size; apps like pulse. This is as opposed to apps that simply scale well like the Kindle app which works fine and scales fine but the whole applications i still the same exact app that is the one being used on 3-4 inch phones. compare the regular kindle app to the iPad version of the kindle app and you'll see the difference between something that works well on a tablet and something designed to be used on a tablet
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Yes and you see it also when you look at the apps Samsung created like for example the email app and the calendar app. If you change to landscape mode you get a split window view which is really nice on a tablet.
I'm an app developer myself and right now I'm hesitating if I should write apps for tablets. I think there can be a lot done in this respect. The dilemma is that Google announced specific development support for tablet apps in honeycomb. This creates the question if one should develop for the tablet right now and do a lot! of extra work or postpone it until Google releases a programming framework that makes it a lot easier to create ui's on tablets. Though question.
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That's exactly what I mean, is optimized to run on the Tablets as compared to optimized for a 3-4 inch phone.
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See my response above. It is really a question if we are going to see tablet specific apps on short term
It is, probably tough, to decide to have to potentially do things twice, but I'd expect that if you think you can pull it off to ship even a month before others get their apps coded with new APIs and such, there'd be a tremendous advantage to building up first mover and the app to be measured against.
appelflap said:
See my response above. It is really a question if we are going to see tablet specific apps on short term
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I am personally thinking that with the boom of android tablets that is about to happen and the release of honeycomb that is bound to follow, that people who get in on the train early can reap some serious benefits...
But, to each his own I guess. I will keep looking!
I'm trying to get a feel with Netflix & Android tablets - and so far - I'm starting to have doubts that it'll ever be available on the Tegra 2 tablet.
My understanding is it's a security - hardware issue - to keep people from stealing / ripping netflix content - that's keeping the barn doors shut. Or perhaps Android has their own plans to monetize Google Movies. But as more time goes by - I'm less optimistic about getting Netflix on an android tablet.
Any thoughts - or is there something recent that I've missed re: Netflix coming out on this tablet - or others in the near future?
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If it does come to an Android tablet, it'll still be very much SD quality. Look at the iPad.
Itaintrite said:
If it does come to an Android tablet, it'll still be very much SD quality. Look at the iPad.
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not sure of resolution or bit rate data on the netflix stream to an ipad, but it's pretty damn good quality on that screen.
i'd love to have it on my transformer... and my fascinate.... but i guess i have it on my xboxes, my ipad, and my X so i cant complain too much.
i'd really like it on the transformer though, especially with the HDMI out.
There are ways to get it on unsupported devices... Google can help you find guides.
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There are ways to get it on unsupported devices... Google can help you find guides.
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Tried every way possible and can't get it to work. If someone does get it working I would love to know how. As far as making it to tegra 2 tablets im sure it will make it eventually. NVIDIA has a big presence and it would make their chips more attractive if they had Netflix support.
The evo got it,and as far as i can recall Netflix said it wouldn't since the evo has no dem support on the chip. That apparently changed as they settled for software drm. Recently it was removed when the gingerbread update officially launched for the evo, but prior to that it worked fine on cm7 which is aosp gb. My guess is it will probably come in time.
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Not on Tegra 2 Honeycomb devices.
I am really anxious to get it on my tablet as well. But I can wait since I have it on everything else that I own.
isolated_epidemic said:
Tried every way possible and can't get it to work. If someone does get it working I would love to know how. As far as making it to tegra 2 tablets im sure it will make it eventually. NVIDIA has a big presence and it would make their chips more attractive if they had Netflix support.
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It does work on tegra 2 tablets. I have had it working on a viewsonic gtablet for over a month.
Rumors say the Lenovo IdeaPad K1 has Netflix preinstalled.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/lenovo-ideapad-k1-tablet-hits-some-online-retailers-still-not-b/
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It does work on tegra 2 tablets. I have had it working on a viewsonic gtablet for over a month.
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So the problem is a Honeycomb issue and not a Tegra 2 issue? Then maybe there is hope. Has anyone gotten it working on other Tegra 2 Gingerbread devices?
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It does work on tegra 2 tablets. I have had it working on a viewsonic gtablet for over a month.
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Yep, had it working on the gtab as well.
I guess the issue here is not the Tegra but the Honeycomb and Netflix.
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So the problem is a Honeycomb issue and not a Tegra 2 issue? Then maybe there is hope. Has anyone gotten it working on other Tegra 2 Gingerbread devices?
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Xoom has Gingerbread hidden if you up your screen dpi settings, I wonder if it works on it. But seeing how unusable the GB is on the Xoom in that environment I doubt it is of benefit here.
The problem isn't Tegra 2, it's HoneyComb. Netflix simply hasn't gotten around to making a version compatible with HoneyComb.
Let's face it, until the TF came out, the HoneyComb tablet market was tiny.
Netflix is working on many android phones including my Nexus One. In fact the quality is great, especially compared to Slingbox. I think it is just a matter of time before Honeycomb gets Netflix, there are just too many Honycomb/Tegra 2 units being sold for them to loose that market.
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Yep, had it working on the gtab as well.
I guess the issue here is not the Tegra but the Honeycomb and Netflix.
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Do you still have it working? I am running Vegan Tab rom and have never had it fully functional, use it as a que manager but unable to watch. I have been using a home server software, Playon, for the past 2 years and it works good to watch Netflix. It also gives me access to other content and I can also watch videos that are on my home computer. But I would still like to be able to use the Netflix app.
Netflix worked on my Archos 101. Kind of missing it right now since the TF has no netflix.
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Do you still have it working? I am running Vegan Tab rom and have never had it fully functional, use it as a que manager but unable to watch. I have been using a home server software, Playon, for the past 2 years and it works good to watch Netflix. It also gives me access to other content and I can also watch videos that are on my home computer. But I would still like to be able to use the Netflix app.
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Still works on mine. I am using cyanogen mod though.
Well, it's certainly not specific to Honeycomb and Tegra 2. The Samsung Epic, for example, still doesn't have an official Netflix app, and it's neither Honeycomb nor Tegra 2. And I'm sure there are still more Android devices that don't have Netflix than do...
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You just have to edit your build.prop to a G2 or something. Thats how it works on the G2x Tegra2
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You just have to edit your build.prop to a G2 or something. Thats how it works on the G2x Tegra2
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How did you get it to work on TF? Please post up, as I'm anxiously awaiting NF on my TF, as are many others!!!
And I'm honestly thinking about getting the Grid10. The Grid10 + case + USB cable is still $20 less than the Transformer (without a case, or the dock), which was the other tablet I'm considering.
Is there any reason I shouldn't get the Grid10? Better price point for similar specs. It can sideload Android APKs, and it uses the Amazon App Store, and the OS is something that really seems to flow nicely in all the hands on videos I've seen.
Since it's based on the Android kernel, it won't be another Playbook or Touchpad, since all Android apps theoretically work on the Grid10. The only thing I'm worried about is all the negative comments I've been reading about Fusion Garage and their previous tablet. I already know I'd enjoy an Android tablet.
I am currently the owner of an original Galaxy Tab, so really, anything is an upgrade at this point (Not having a tablet OS on a tablet is really awful)
This will be my next tablet, I have been watching the Grid10 for a while now. It looks smooth and responsive to the touch. I currently own the touchpad and an Android tablet. I am planning on getting the 3g version. Fast enough for me.
On the @FusionGarage twitter, I asked a few qustions that I've been unable to find answers to:
"@FusionGarage Quick question, is the usb cable a must? Can you sync/transfer files via wifi? "
Reply: "@steckums We are currently working on an application that will sync your content via WiFi, but right now you need the USB cable. "
"@FusionGarage Good to hear. One more: how compatible is it with Android APKs? Is it essentially able to sideload any (honeycomb!?) app?"
Reply: "@steckums Yes, you can sideload any Android app, including Honeycomb apps."
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does anyone here have modded rom for this china tablet
APAD2 with call function
i am planning to buy by the end of the month and i want it flashed with better firmware.
please someone help me
So I have heard that GridOS is based on android 2.3. If that is the case how are they running any honeycomb apps? My guess is that older versions of GridOS (pre-production) were based on 2.3 and the production version is based on honeycomb. What are other people's thoughts on this?
I bought the wifi only version - it should arrive tomorrow. I've just read a less than stunning review from Engadget though, so now I'm leery...
I am getting a bit confused with all the different versions of android.
ICS should be based on android 4.0.x and xoom is a tablet which uses android 3.0.x.
What happens to all the apps that are tablet only? aka only 3.0.x? Will they still run on 4.0.X?
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I am getting a bit confused with all the different versions of android.
ICS should be based on android 4.0.x and xoom is a tablet which uses android 3.0.x.
What happens to all the apps that are tablet only? aka only 3.0.x? Will they still run on 4.0.X?
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The Xoom has the hardware capability to run Android 4.0. The apps that work on Honeycomb (and gingerbread, froyo, etc) mostly work on ice cream sandwich, but the developer of the apps need to update their apps to make them compatible.
So google is just making it so the phone/tablet work on the same version? No more updates for 3.0.X?
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So google is just making it so the phone/tablet work on the same version? No more updates for 3.0.X?
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As far as I know, correct.
This is actually something that mildly concerns me. I have paid for a few tablet only apps. I assume these will be supported with ICS.
But what about apps that were paid for in GB? Say someone bought Splashtop for phones and they are running a phone with GB that gets upgraded to ICS. Will the app they purchased still be able to run on their device? Will it be optimized for ICS? Or will they need to buy the "tablet only" version?
I have a feeling this will be on an app by app (or developer by developer) case, but hopefully there won't be many issues.
Apps will have to be updated to work with ICS
Think about it. These apps, in order to remain relevant, will need to be updated to ICS, sooner rather than later. It's the new OS that all new and many older devices will be running. So don't worry...it will take a bit, but will probably work out better for us in the long run, as all those apps scaled for phones will also be able to scale for the Xoom.
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This is actually something that mildly concerns me. I have paid for a few tablet only apps. I assume these will be supported with ICS.
But what about apps that were paid for in GB? Say someone bought Splashtop for phones and they are running a phone with GB that gets upgraded to ICS. Will the app they purchased still be able to run on their device? Will it be optimized for ICS? Or will they need to buy the "tablet only" version?
I have a feeling this will be on an app by app (or developer by developer) case, but hopefully there won't be many issues.
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Out of all the apps I have on my Xoom. So far I only have 1 app that won't run on ICS and supposedly the developer is working on an upgrade. And a good portion of those are regular phone apps. Don't sweat it. Most developers are very responsible and provide upgrades to paying customers. And the advantages of ICS are worth it.
Please can anyone tell me if its possible to downgrade my tab2 to gingerbread, at the moment its on jelly bean cm10, I only use this tab as a games machine and almost every game ive put on it won't work.I have a galaxy player 5 wifi and it plays anything I throw at it.If I can't downgrade then I may as well give the tab to my local charity shop.If I buy windows7 then I can run old software in compatiblity mode,why can't I do this with android?.It seems to me that ICS and JB are a complete waste of time,resource hungry and not very stable.Thanks in advance for any help
They likely aren't compatible with your tablet because the game developers haven't put support for it in the game. Downgrading to Gingerbread, even if it were possible, wouldn't fix this. The game would likely run just fine on the tablet, but the market is setup to allow/deny on a device by device basis, and the game developers apparently haven't allowed whatever model you have. I'm also guessing that you probably didn't bother contacting any of the game developers to see if they would support the tablet? That would have been more useful than posting here.
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Thanks for your reply,I did contact a lot of developers and almost all of them said that because the games were old as they put it, there was no point in modifying them to work on newer versions of android,the bottom line is that i have wasted a lot of money paying for games that are not backwards compatible with new version of the android os.I'm very disappointed as this tablet for all intents and purposes is nothing but a door stop.
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Thanks for your reply,I did contact a lot of developers and almost all of them said that because the games were old as they put it, there was no point in modifying them to work on newer versions of android,the bottom line is that i have wasted a lot of money paying for games that are not backwards compatible with new version of the android os.I'm very disappointed as this tablet for all intents and purposes is nothing but a door stop.
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How can something be "backwards compatible" with a newer version? And my tablet works just fine for me and several others. I'm guessing that you could install the games and they would work fine on the tablet, just that the developer(s) don't want to try and test them on the newer versions of Android. In the end, all they're doing is hurting themselves and losing money.
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How can something be "backwards compatible" with a newer version? And my tablet works just fine for me and several others. I'm guessing that you could install the games and they would work fine on the tablet, just that the developer(s) don't want to try and test them on the newer versions of Android. In the end, all they're doing is hurting themselves and losing money.
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What I meant by backwards compatible is that I can run win98 or xp software on a windows 7 machine so why can't I run gingerbread software on jelly bean or ICS.And your right they are losing money my money!!,if I can't get gingerbread or honeycomb on this tab then its history and I shall be looking at an ipad,from what i've seen anything runs on an ipad no matter how old it is,dont get me wrong I'm not slagging off android but this tablet isn't fit for the purpose that I bought it for.I know this probably isnt the right place but my wifes iphone runs 3 year old software on ios6.So if anyone can tell me how to get gingerbread or honeycomb on this tablet I will be forever in their debt because they will stop me from going over to the dark side which I don't really want to do.
Backwards compatible would mean that it is meant for ICS or Jelly Bean but runs on Gingerbread, Froyo, or something older, not the other way around. And whatever games or apps you want to run likely would work fine on the tablet running ICS or Jelly Bean, but the developer is probably to lazy to even try and test it, or allow people to download it. Then again, since you think forward compatibility is the same as backwards compatibility, I wouldn't expect you to know much about how the market is setup to allow/deny apps on devices.
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Backwards compatible would mean that it is meant for ICS or Jelly Bean but runs on Gingerbread, Froyo, or something older, not the other way around. And whatever games or apps you want to run likely would work fine on the tablet running ICS or Jelly Bean, but the developer is probably to lazy to even try and test it, or allow people to download it. Then again, since you think forward compatibility is the same as backwards compatibility, I wouldn't expect you to know much about how the market is setup to allow/deny apps on devices.
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I can see that I'm flogging a dead horse here, my original post said that I tried all these games and apps already and they dont work with jb or ics,which is why I want to downgrade,my tab2 is now wedging the door open and I have gone back to my galaxy player 5.0 on gingerbread,the tab2 is going on ebay and the first bid over a fiver gets it.
Why not try device spoofer as last resort or changing build prop file
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What are the names of games you try to operate?
No gingerbread in tab2, as the device sell with ics out of the box, may be try tab1
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