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A bit of background: I will be attending UCLA as a computer science student in the fall. I will be bringing my desktop with me, and am trying to decide between a laptop/netbook or the Transformer.
Would the transformer work in conjunction with the desktop, or will I need a full laptop.
Thanks.
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You should consider what you want to use this device for before you decide. As a CS major, you will certainly be doing quite a bit of programming, and you might want to prefer to use a full linux environment for this, depends largely on the program you have at UCLA. What you can consider is to get this device and using the splashtop program access your desktop to do your programming. However, you will want to consider whether or not you want to utilize the local processing power of your device. It would be far simpler to use a laptop/netbook for those purposes, rather than trying to find solutions with the tablet+dock. In the end, if you find that you will be using the device docked most of the time for school, then you should probably consider just getting a laptop/netbook. If the convenience of the tablet and media consumption is something you'd prefer, then get the transformer.
tl;dr, I consider the transformer+dock a fun/entertainment device. For CS based schoolwork, you would most likely want a laptop/netbook.
unless you wanted to focus on tablet development in your coursework...but that's not for another 2 years...
Hope that helps.
It helped a lot. Thank you.
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Keep in mind that you can use the Transformer's bundled remote desktop app and/or a terminal app to control your PC, and run stuff that way - assuming you can connect to your desktop from wherever you are.
I do agree with omguss, if you don't plan on using the device mostly for entertainment, get a netbook/laptop.
Sorry if this is hijacking your thread (ill start a new thread if you want) but just wondering if there is a good note taking apps for android?
There are two uses I can see being needed for me.
First I would need something to annotate on pdf's and powerpoints. I remember seeing an app that looked pretty solid for this so it should be good.
Secondly I would need an app that I can be typing with the keyboard, and then when needed draw in equations, graphs, pictures, whatever. Not really sure if there is something good for this.
As a programmer, I would suggest getting a full laptop for somebody majoring in CS. As much as I love the transformer, you cannot compile code on it. At least in my searching I have not found a single IDE meant to be run on Android (Lot's target Android, but none run on Android). More than likely, there will be several times that you want to do work away from your room. On the transformer, the only real way to do this will be remote desktop software. It's up to you whether you think the remote desktop software will be sufficient for this, but one other thing I would caution against is the small keyboard. It is far more comfortable (and efficient) to program on a full-size (or as near to full-size as possible) keyboard.
I don't know what type of program you are going into, but if you take any courses on 3d graphics you are almost certainly going to lose the ability to test your programs through a remote desktop connection.
I personally think that tablets are great in conjunction with a desktop. I plan to get rid of my netbook once I get the transformer. My only concern for you is that a tablet simply isn't a good tool for programming. If the hacker community manages to get ubuntu onto the transformer then the device will be an acceptable programming tool in my opinion; although, you will still lack a full size keyboard.
My advice to you is wait until mid-to-late summer. There is a slew of new tech toys coming out this summer, and almost anything you get now will be outdated by the time you start in the fall. By summer you will know if we managed to get Ubuntu on the transformer, AMD's Llano processor will be out on laptops, and Tegra 3 tablets may be just around the corner.
BongoBong said:
Sorry if this is hijacking your thread (ill start a new thread if you want) but just wondering if there is a good note taking apps for android?
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Don't need to hijack anything. Just look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980783
I'm a secondary school student, I have a HP DM1 (Not the Z ), runs 7 pro X64 + VS 2010 Pro + VS2008 Pro. Got a load of VM's for debugging ETC...
Windows is good for note taking to, Onenote is great.
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Badwolve1
good old days of using SSH + eMacs + X client, they all switched to windows in school?
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Don't need to hijack anything. Just look here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980783
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Thanks, but I have already seen that thread and done some other looking up and the majority of discussion is whats the best handwriting app. They really don't mention how good it would be for mostly typing (understandable since most would be using the on screen keyboard).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039287&highlight=onenote
someone seriously needs to start porting some compilers to android..
many scripting languages are available through SL4A but most CS courses are taught with C/C++ or Java. I'd love to help out with this project but I just wouldn't know where to start
Just adding on to this, since I'm a student and also looking for a tablet solution.
I'd love:
1. Printing to my university printers. My university currently requires you install some software to use their printers. Mac and Windows versions available, no Linux, no Android.
2. Onenote would be awesome. I read that there was an iPhone version available? Android should be coing soon hopefully.
I would suggest a full laptop, and something with high resolution. Once your CS load picks up you'll need something you can work on in between or during classes. Android lacking compilers on the OS itself is the killer here, otherwise you are free to code all you want via text editors.
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I would suggest a full laptop, and something with high resolution. Once your CS load picks up you'll need something you can work on in between or during classes. Android lacking compilers on the OS itself is the killer here, otherwise you are free to code all you want via text editors.
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As a CS student myself I would agree with the above and add that in programming classes you will want all the screen real-estate you can get your hands on(17"+), a good amount of hard disk space, 4gb+ ram, and a good Virtual Machine program. Less important is video and cpu power unless you intend to make it a desktop replacement/gaming machine.
That being said... Such a laptop is going to be rather heavy. I am getting the Transformer to replace an early gen AspireOne for less technical classes.
Just my $0.02
Flowah said:
Just adding on to this, since I'm a student and also looking for a tablet solution.
I'd love:
1. Printing to my university printers. My university currently requires you install some software to use their printers. Mac and Windows versions available, no Linux, no Android.
2. Onenote would be awesome. I read that there was an iPhone version available? Android should be coing soon hopefully.
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I was about to say that you're insane and that MS would never make OneNote for iOS but.. turns out you're right. That's really strange. Hopefully they start work on an Android version soon.
Edit: The iOS version of OneNote doesn't seem all that great. You can't write with a stylus.. it's just keyboard input. lame. Writing with a capacitive stylus on the transformer would kind of suck anyway, but I might still consider the HTC Flyer which has an active digitizer.
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I was about to say that you're insane and that MS would never make OneNote for iOS but.. turns out you're right. That's really strange. Hopefully they start work on an Android version soon.
Edit: The iOS version of OneNote doesn't seem all that great. You can't write with a stylus.. it's just keyboard input. lame. Writing with a capacitive stylus on the transformer would kind of suck anyway, but I might still consider the HTC Flyer which has an active digitizer.
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Right, but I'm interested in the Transformer almost purely because of the keyboard dock, so keyboard input only is fine with me tbh. As long as it's decently full featured.
I'm waiting to see if the AMD Llano will make the best thin gaming laptop. Hopefully, new AMD laptops will come out in June, right before back-to-school season.
Oh yeah, OneNote. Yeah, that's important too.
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Oh yeah, OneNote. Yeah, that's important too.
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Onenote is the single most useful piece of software MS has ever produced (Excluding win7;p))
Virtual Machines? Eh, I never needed to use one except when I was using a Mac. Wandering what you guys are doing with it.
Any laptop that is 13"+ in screen size is good. The power of the computer depends on what you plan to do. So you have to decide on the specs yourself. Dual Core is fine unless you plan to do any CPU intensive tasks. If you ever need a bigger screen, then you can just buy a monitor and hook it up so even a netbook could be fine if you are okay with the power it gives. 13"-15" is good. 17" is just monstrous and you don't want to be lugging that around.
Im undecided if i should buy the TF or the iPAD2.
I enjoy android hence my Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 2.3
I have been reading reviews on both tablets but im still undecided but i would like to have the TF as i prefer android but i want to know if its better than iPAD2.
i need the tablet to browse the net wifi, read books and documents, type documents on it, watch movies on a plane, enjoy good prudctivity and game apps too without too much glitches.
Please advice as im purchasing either one next week.
A similiar thread I started, before bought mine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248557
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A similiar thread I started, before bought mine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248557
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thanx mate...i was specifically looking for reasons why i should buy the TF either than the ipad2.
do u still have urz? enjoying it still? i read a review that some android apps are not made for tablets.
I use both my laptop and TF all the time, both have their own purpose and neither of them and fully replace the other in my opinion. At least not yet.
If I was in your situation I would have wait until the transformer prime released (TF2) on November. but if you can't wait buy the tf1, you won't regrat it.
I would say that it might be closer to replacing a NETbook, but not a notebook.
You can of course do basic things like email, youtube, watch video, and web browsing (although I haven't found this to be as good an experience as I had hoped). But I wouldn't rely on it to do seriously productive things yet (like typing documents etc). Its not impossible... its just not quite there yet IMO.
Definitely get the ipad 2.
khakhi said:
thanx mate...i was specifically looking for reasons why i should buy the TF either than the ipad2.
do u still have urz? enjoying it still? i read a review that some android apps are not made for tablets.
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I still have mine. But it is more like a netbook replacement than a notebook
Some apps are not, but developement is underway. But as Siad, i'd wait a bit longer and get the Transformer Prime
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Definitely get the ipad 2.
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But y? thats my question.
look, i want to get the TF but i would like to know that it is worth getting regarding being up to the same level as the ipad2.
i like the flexibility of android but i would like to know if the TF is quality too and wont glitch, freeze, crash frequently.
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Definitely get the ipad 2.
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yes definately
goodintentions said:
Definitely get the ipad 2.
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reaperzero said:
yes definately
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3936&idPhone2=3847
this can say otherwise
The-Original-Ki said:
I would say that it might be closer to replacing a NETbook, but not a notebook.
You can of course do basic things like email, youtube, watch video, and web browsing (although I haven't found this to be as good an experience as I had hoped). But I wouldn't rely on it to do seriously productive things yet (like typing documents etc). Its not impossible... its just not quite there yet IMO.
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I use my Transformer for this no problems.
Android has few if any "Serious" editors and even less useful tools for creating rich content that isn't HTML; Polaris Office is the most useful I've seen. Being ARM and Linux based however, I am able to run vim and other serious editors like GNU emacs on my transformer. I can even access more serious type setting tools for creating rich and or structured content.
Now if you live and die by MS Excel & PowerPoop, that might be a big problem.
Just for native-ness, I've thought of creating a vim/emacs style Android app and trying to stitch it to a Lua interp over RPC (to be used ala elisp), but have yet to have that big a need of yanking text from my terminal to other apps, versus just using e.g. Dropboxes editor for that.
If you have a pc and an always on internet connection, if you are savy enough, you can set up a remote desktop server on your pc by using VNC or Splashtop Remote Streamer. This may be alot to set up initially, but once its set up, its a great solution to this issue, so you won't have to carry around both your PC and your tab. Splashtop is a great program that makes it appear that your native PC OS is native to your tab. The downside to splashtop is that it does not encrypt your remote desktop sessions.
I don't know what you are looing to hear?The number of which one is better? This is totally subjective.
Go and try both of them out and then choose one.
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But y? thats my question.
look, i want to get the TF but i would like to know that it is worth getting regarding being up to the same level as the ipad2.
i like the flexibility of android but i would like to know if the TF is quality too and wont glitch, freeze, crash frequently.
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Everybody's got an ipad 2. So, obviously, it's better than the TF. Also, I'd like to see less whining in the TF forums. Apple's already got an army of whiners. One more wouldn't hurt them.
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Now if you live and die by MS Excel & PowerPoop, that might be a big problem.
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This is not true. I've made several ppp on my TF. I've also written a bunch of stuff with it. And I live and die by excel spreadsheet.
If you're looking for something free, of course polaris is inadequate.
I have bought quickoffice, freethink (or thinkfree, I always forget), officesuite pro, and doc2go. Between these, I can do everything I need to.
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khakhi said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=3936&idPhone2=3847
this can say otherwise
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Doesn't matter what that comparison chart says. The ipad 2 is the king of the hill right now. Have you any idea how many times I've heard people on the train say "asus transformer? What is that?" Yet, everybody knows what the ipad is.
What's more, everytime I show people my TF, people always say "oh, it's an ipad..."
I still say if you have to ask which one to get, it's best that you get the ipad 2. If there's any disappointment after getting it, let apple and the iOS community deal with the inevitable whining session. And based on my experience with tablet users, there will undoubtedly be disappointments. Most people will start out trying to use the tablet like a laptop anyway.
I absolutely love my TF still, and I'm a big fan of Android. I dont know. The TF will do anything that the ipad can do and more, with the ability to customize and change whatever you want.
Being able to set up your TF like this is a great way to show why honeycomb is amazing. There's no way to even come close to setting up your ipad like this:
HUBS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrzQPkbkYOw
I need to upload a video of my hubs.... it's a GREAT way to use your tab
Ipad 2 or TF? If you plan to type more, use the editing options for word, excel etc, watch movies then go for the transformer. The extra laptop dock should be very helpful too. But if you are more inclined to play games, then go buy the ipad2,. Or.... Just wait for the prime. The Kal EL processor is a beast.
My girlfriend ditched her netbook for the TF months ago and hasnt had only one complaint. Her netbook had a VGA out and the TF only has HDMI. 99% of projectors dont support HDMI yet so she has to break out the old Dell to do that.
But otherwise you can open/edit office docs, PDFs, all websites, etc. She loves it. Even used it to take pictures of, edit and display cells and such she is working on.
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Her netbook had a VGA out and the TF only has HDMI. 99% of projectors dont support HDMI yet so she has to break out the old Dell to do that.
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Maybe it has a DVI input? There are plenty of HDMI adapters available. In fact, there are also HDMI to VGA adapters.
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The-Original-Ki said:
I would say that it might be closer to replacing a NETbook, but not a notebook.
You can of course do basic things like email, youtube, watch video, and web browsing (although I haven't found this to be as good an experience as I had hoped). But I wouldn't rely on it to do seriously productive things yet (like typing documents etc). Its not impossible... its just not quite there yet IMO.
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I have to agree great replacement for the netbook I think if i had a real laptop I would probably play w them both about the same
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What was the determination on running Honeycomb apps on the Kindle Fire? I had read somewhere that they would not work because they were only compatible with HC but has anyone actually tried to see if they will run? I would be very curious to know if they work because the phone apps are a little awkward at times on the larger screen of the kindle.
If someone has apks for any HC apps and would be willing to post them I'd be more than happy to try them out and report back with what works and what doesn't, maybe get a dedicated compatibility list going until someone releases an ICS rom for kindle.
The Fire is running Gingerbread so any HC apps would refuse to install. If HC had been open source Amazon probably would have used it since it is more suited for tablets.
They will probably issue an update with ICS so tablet apps can be used, but since the Kindle runs such a heavily modified version of Android, it will be a while before we see an Amazon issued ICS update.
This would be so awesome I've been doing a lot of searching on this for the past hour. It seems the consistent answer is that we have to wait for ics.. :-!
We may see CM9 on this long before Amazon releases an update. They already have ICS booting on the Fire and it looks pretty stable, but there isn't much hardware support yet. Looks promising though:
http://moooom.dyndns.info/?p=107
why?
what makes honeycomb apps special anyway ? i never used any tablet that runs honeycomb
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what makes honeycomb apps special anyway ? i never used any tablet that runs honeycomb
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Many of the apps are more tablet optimized to take advantage of the extra screen space provided. If you look up Gmail for honeycomb you can see what I mean.
Honeycomb Gmail actually kind of sucks on a 7" tablet. It's really made for the 10"ers, on a 7" it's just crammed like you're back on a 2.5" phone screen.
So I caved and I booted up my internet communications and connectivity network desktop machine and hit Amazon. After days of weighing my options I decided on getting the Fire HD 10. I bought a Fire Hd 8 for my mom for Christmas and she loves it and with the HD 10 having slightly better specs and the ability to root I decided to buy it, the Canadian version. I figure with the Amazon branding support and updates would be more frequent than if I opted for a no-name tablet with "better" specs.
Also, I have poor vision and wanted more screen real estate. I have a Tab S 8.4 but battery life isn't great on it. So is the Fire HD 10 gonna be much of an upgrade from that?
Also my original question, are many of you just happy with leaving it alone? I mean after installing Google Play of course.
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...my original question, are many of you just happy with leaving it alone? I mean after installing Google Play of course.
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By and large, yes. Having said that, I've changed the setting to minimize advertising. I've also added the Hacker's Keyboard because the Fire keyboard totally suxs!
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By and large, yes. Having said that, I've changed the setting to minimize advertising. I've also added the Hacker's Keyboard because the Fire keyboard totally suxs!
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As far as I know my tablet won't have ads. It's the Canadian version. And yea, will be using Swiftkey keyboard likely. Is the Hacker's keyboard in the store?
Checked. It is.
DelphinusMinor said:
So I caved and I booted up my internet communications and connectivity network desktop machine and hit Amazon. After days of weighing my options I decided on getting the Fire HD 10. I bought a Fire Hd 8 for my mom for Christmas and she loves it and with the HD 10 having slightly better specs and the ability to root I decided to buy it, the Canadian version. I figure with the Amazon branding support and updates would be more frequent than if I opted for a no-name tablet with "better" specs.
Also, I have poor vision and wanted more screen real estate. I have a Tab S 8.4 but battery life isn't great on it. So is the Fire HD 10 gonna be much of an upgrade from that?
Also my original question, are many of you just happy with leaving it alone? I mean after installing Google Play of course.
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I had a TabPro 8.4, which is similar to Tab S but with an LCD screen, before buying the Fire HD 10.
The Fire HD 10 is not really an upgrade as compared to the Samsung, it has a lower quality display, cheaper build (reflective screen, for example) and is quite a lot thicker. However, there are some areas where it's better - mainly much better battery life and performance (providing you debloat it using the methods detailed on these forums). You have to remember that the Fire HD is a third of the price to the Tab S3 in the 10'' size, and it's great value for money in that respect. I've been really pleased with mine.
I haven't rooted my tablet because in the past on rooted devices, I've had trouble with apps such as Netflix. I did try installing google services, but in my experience it made performance worse and the tablet got warmer, so I went back to having a clean, google free and bloat free setup. I do miss a few google apps, but I use YouTube Vanced for YouTube and Kiwi Browser as my main browser, both of which are better than the Google equivalents anyway.
I would consider rooting if I knew it wouldn't break the likes of Netflix, Prime Video and BBC iPlayer, if only to use apps such as Adaway and Afwall.
Using the HD8 here. 2017 model for my wife, and 2018 model for me. Bought them all without ads to begin with so that was never an issue.
Got the Google Play Store and using the LauncherHijack so I can run the Nova Launcher and widgets on my Fire.
No rooting necessary with all that. Of course, at first there was no root, but even with the ability now, I have no desire to go there.
I would say I liked my fire 10 2017 without root but I love it with root. Rooting and debloating is like a night and day difference in terms of performance. No delay when I hit the home button and actual multitasking!
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I would say I liked my fire 10 2017 without root but I love it with root. Rooting and debloating is like a night and day difference in terms of performance. No delay when I hit the home button and actual multitasking!
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Is yours the Canadian version? I may end up rooting, I always do in the end. LOL
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Is yours the Canadian version? I may end up rooting, I always do in the end. LOL
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No. It's not the ADs that made it slow. It's all the applications on it (that I wasn't using) taking up ram. Before debloating I would sit from 150M to 200M ram free. Now I can see up to 900M sometime
I have a Fire HD 10 that is NOT rooted and I'm delighted with the performance and capabilities. Here are the things that I've done to it to improvement the experience...
Install Google Services (including the Play Store)
Using adb I did a "pm hide" to disable lockscreen ads and "pm hide" some of the internal apps to debloat it without needing to root it.
Installed Google Home to activate casting to a chromecast.
Installed GBoard keyboard.
Remove the lockscreen ads without root:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/a-t3820744
"Hide" Amazon apps to "debloat" it without needing root:
(this thread will list the options to hide)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/adb-shell-pm-hide-bloat-amazon-t3221466
Technically, the Amazon apps are still installed so in the strictest sense it isn't debloating it, but the results are comparable... those apps that have been hidden aren't running in the background and are only taking up space..
Using this approach, no need to root, and it is a simple matter of resetting the device to bring it back to factory.
WillysJeepMan said:
I have a Fire HD 10 that is NOT rooted and I'm delighted with the performance and capabilities. Here are the things that I've done to it to improvement the experience...
Install Google Services (including the Play Store)
Using adb I did a "pm hide" to disable lockscreen ads and "pm hide" some of the internal apps to debloat it without needing to root it.
Installed Google Home to activate casting to a chromecast.
Installed GBoard keyboard.
Remove the lockscreen ads without root:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/a-t3820744
"Hide" Amazon apps to "debloat" it without needing root:
(this thread will list the options to hide)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/adb-shell-pm-hide-bloat-amazon-t3221466
Technically, the Amazon apps are still installed so in the strictest sense it isn't debloating it, but the results are comparable... those apps that have been hidden aren't running in the background and are only taking up space..
Using this approach, no need to root, and it is a simple matter of resetting the device to bring it back to factory.
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Similar experience with a 2018 HD 8. I have made a few additional tweeks including replacing the stock launcher w/Nova. I own numerous other Android gizmos that are unlocked, rooted and/or running a custom ROM. Control is nice but there's an ongoing maintenance component (varies by device) and the headache of apps that detect root. Overall rather happy the HD 8 as-is ... but I do have other choices.
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By and large, yes. Having said that, I've changed the setting to minimize advertising. I've also added the Hacker's Keyboard because the Fire keyboard totally suxs!
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I ended up installing the Play Store so I could use my beloved Swiftkey.
I also have the Canadian version with hands free Alexa. Is that normal? As mention earlier tho my email is connected to my US and my Canadian Amazon accounts. Maybe you were able to do this when Amazon first opened.
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I also have the Canadian version with hands free Alexa. Is that normal? As mention earlier tho my email is connected to my US and my Canadian Amazon accounts. Maybe you were able to do this when Amazon first opened.
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Canadian vs US vs UK is irrelevant w.r.t. Alexa.
No, I am not happy without root. I would like to backup the entire system with apps on my own so that if something happens I can reinstall. Of course wtih root , I would also like TWRP. I would like to find out how to do this without changing my current HD 10 (2017). I am not looking to root to make changes in the current OS. Anyone know if this can be done?
Hi !
I'm considering buying an Amazon Kindle E-reader because reading on my phone really hurt my eyes on the long run but I'm worried about being jailed in the Amazon environment. I'm aiming for the cheapest recent model, the Kindle 10.
I was wondering if it's possible to replace the proprietary firmware with Android or a lightweight derivative.
I did some googling but the only result I got was this thread with removed responses : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/closed-guide-install-android-os-on-kindle-8-gen.4449977/
I'm kinda new so I don't really know what could make it possible or impossible to do it so here's my thoughts :
- Is the Amazon Firmware flashable like I would replace the OS on a computer ?
- Will the hardware be sufficient to run Android or lightweight ? (512MB of RAM, a 1Ghz ARM CPU, 8Gigs of storage, from Wikipedia)
- I know e-inks displays are really slow to refresh so I'll be disabling fancy android animations etc...
I'm not against doing it myself if no one already did, I think this could be a good experience, I just want to be sure I'm not doing something impossible from the start.
Thanks in advance for your help !
hollowww said:
Hi !
I'm considering buying an Amazon Kindle E-reader because reading on my phone really hurt my eyes on the long run but I'm worried about being jailed in the Amazon environment. I'm aiming for the cheapest recent model, the Kindle 10.
I was wondering if it's possible to replace the proprietary firmware with Android or a lightweight derivative.
I did some googling but the only result I got was this thread with removed responses : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/closed-guide-install-android-os-on-kindle-8-gen.4449977/
I'm kinda new so I don't really know what could make it possible or impossible to do it so here's my thoughts :
- Is the Amazon Firmware flashable like I would replace the OS on a computer ?
- Will the hardware be sufficient to run Android or lightweight ? (512MB of RAM, a 1Ghz ARM CPU, 8Gigs of storage, from Wikipedia)
- I know e-inks displays are really slow to refresh so I'll be disabling fancy android animations etc...
I'm not against doing it myself if no one already did, I think this could be a good experience, I just want to be sure I'm not doing something impossible from the start.
Thanks in advance for your help !
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It might be feasible but pointless because android will be limited due to the fact that an E-reader doesn't have the hardware to take advantage of many features built into android.
Droidriven said:
It might be feasible but pointless because android will be limited due to the fact that an E-reader doesn't have the hardware to take advantage of many features built into android.
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Thanks for the feedback
Ultimately the goal isn't to get a full fledged working android, it obviously won't play videos or take pictures, I only want the ability to use whatever reader app I want and a lot of them are android apps...
Do you maybe have some advices on how to attack the problem ? I never did something similar so I'm actually learning how to replace android with lineage on a regular android phone to better understand how it works to begin with.
hollowww said:
Thanks for the feedback
Ultimately the goal isn't to get a full fledged working android, it obviously won't play videos or take pictures, I only want the ability to use whatever reader app I want and a lot of them are android apps...
Do you maybe have some advices on how to attack the problem ? I never did something similar so I'm actually learning how to replace android with lineage on a regular android phone to better understand how it works to begin with.
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First, it requires an android ROM that has been specifically built for the device. It isn't like changing the OS on PC you can't just install any android software on it. Unless someone else has already built android for it, you would have to build/port it yourself, then you'd have to work how to get the device to allow installing it. You'd also have to build a custom recovery such as TWRP for the device in order to install the ROM and installing TWRP on the device requires an unlocked bootloader, which is another thing you'd have to figure out.
In my opinion, not worth it, better to buy a device that you can install your reader apps on.