root, install different system apps, unroot, android pay? - Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions and Answers

hi folks. i have an unrooted s7 exynos. i would like to install some modified system apps like the blackout apps. youtube, google app etc. i need root to do that but have concerns about android pay. i know this will permanently trip knox and kill samsung pay but not bothered about spay.
i also know that i can potentially use magisk and still be able to use android pay, but that situation seems fluid. anyone know if i can root, change system apps, unroot, and still be guaranteed android pay working? or is it any modification at all to /system that will block it? and if that is the case, presumably reflashing stock rom to recover android pay access should work?
cheers.

If you pass safety net then android pay will work, in theory if you successfully unrooted with no traces left behind then safety net will pass. But the challenge would be a clean unroot, I'm not sure how easy that is. Most unroot methods I've seen are a reset, so you'd lose your app changes anyway.
Magisk is quite effective, afaik the only thing it can't hide from saftey net is Xposed.

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Rooted OC3 update to OG9 & Samsung Pay

I am rooted on OC3 with KNOX intact. Is there currently a way to upgrade to OG9 while keeping root and not tripping KNOX?
My main motivation is in using Samsung Pay.
With Android pay, I can uninstall superuser (unroot) and Android pay works. then if i need to do something that requires root access, i can re-install SU and do what i need. will something similar work with Samsung Pay?
will i simply be able to sideload the Samsung pay APK and Framework APK? or will i have to upgrade to OG9? is there a way to upgrade to OG9 and keep root & KNOX?
what are those of you in my same situation planning on doing?
thanks!
In the same boat. **** up the creek without a paddle.
stanfna said:
I am rooted on OC3 with KNOX intact.....
what are those of you in my same situation planning on doing?
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Same as you: Stock (OC3), rooted, Knox intact.
I had successfully installed Android pay. Disabled root with SuperSU. Activated my cards. Re-enabled root. And I was able to make android pay purchases! I was a happy camper....for about 1 day.
Now every time I go to pay I get the message: "This card cannot be used right now." I have tried everything I can think of short of permanently removing root or removing SuperSU itself: different cards, disabling root, rebooting, etc
I was just in the Play Store looking at root cloaking. Has anyone had any success with non-xposed root cloaking? I was looking at the app: Rootcloak Plus / Cydia Substrate. Don't know if that would work on our devices or if that would screw up knox. Anyone know anything about it? I don't have an up-to-date backup so I'm not going to try it just yet.
Here is to hoping someone finds a solution....
do yo have a link for the samsung pay APKs? all the ones i have seen on XDA will not install.
also, did you install the framework or just the samsung pay APK?
thanks!
Samsung pay finally showed up for me on Google play. It downloaded and installed. When I open Samsung pay I get a message that says a software update is required. When I click the update button, Samsung pay closes and I get a pop up that says unfortunately Samsung pay had stopped. Will installing the Samsung pay framework fix this?
From all I've seen, you have to be on OG9 for Pay to work. You could try installing the framework as well, and see if that works. It would be installed automatically in OG9.
for me, samsung pay was more important than root. it was one of the main reasons i got the phone as i tend to forget my wallet a lot...lol. as mentioned by others, when trying to install samsung pay when rooted, it would ask to update. so i unrooted via SU and updated to OG9. as of now, samsung pay is installed and working. however, does any know if i can still get root? i read somewhere that you just have update the ping pong root app and reapply. however, i've also read that ping pong root will not work with 0G9.
pwr2wh8 said:
for me, samsung pay was more important than root. it was one of the main reasons i got the phone as i tend to forget my wallet a lot...lol. as mentioned by others, when trying to install samsung pay when rooted, it would ask to update. so i unrooted via SU and updated to OG9. as of now, samsung pay is installed and working. however, does any know if i can still get root? i read somewhere that you just have update the ping pong root app and reapply. however, i've also read that ping pong root will not work with 0G9.
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There is currently no way to get root on OG9.
OE2 is the last rootable firmware version.
Is there anyway to downgrade OG9 to OE2? Accidently upgraded..

Can Avast's root methods break SafetyNet?

So, I use Avast Anti-Theft on my phone, and Magisk to hide root so SafetyNet does not trip.
Thing is, Avast has a method only available on rooted phones to install itself in a way that would prevent it from being wiped or disabled, even if a factory reset was performed. Does anybody have any idea if this method, if used, would trip safetynet?

ROM without root (NOT how to install ROM without rooting phone)

So, this is a slightly different question that what these forums are for.
I'm looking to install a ROM on my Z5, so I can have the latest version of Android and hopefully squash some bugs (especially random Bluetooth turning off). This is all well documented in the forums, but all these ROMs usually come with root included and here's where my problem starts.
There are many apps on my phone that won't work with root, like bank apps, Android Pay and Netflix just to name a few. So, I'd like to have a costume ROM that doesn't have root included. Xposed used to have a module for temporarily disabling root but from my memory, it was never reliable; and there's no Xposed for Nougat yet.
I know many of you install ROM in order to customize your phone as much as possible, my goal is not customization. My goal is to have the latest code, with the latest security fixes and with as many bugs fixed.
So, is there a ROM that I can install that comes without root? OR if there's a way to remove root from any ROM?
I do understand that my bootloader has to be unlocked, that's a given (just in case you were about to mention it). Also, rooting as an initial/intermediate step is also very acceptable, just not the final product.
You want custom rom and bypass netflix or bank apps, android pay etc. Custom rom is the meaning of BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED device, so there is no way to bypass these apps without Root on custom roms. Magisk or some Xposed modules do that, but not guaranteed.
Flash STOCK FTF on my thread (steps 1-14) and then flash your TA BACKUP. This will lock your bootloader..
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/general/ftf-e6603-33-53-83-google-drive-patched-t3581463

Any Way to Use SAMSUNG PASS WITH ROOT?

Hi im currenty on crd7 stock 0x0.
I will install custom rom (also im open for recommends) and read every apps are working exclude samsung pass and secure folder.
Doesnt Magisk knox faker work?
Is there any way to use pass? (I need store passes and login with bio.)
Can someone list more disadvantages except warranty?
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Disable Knox Xcover 5 (not yet rooted)

I"d like to root my new phone before putting any stuff on it, but according to the Magisk installation guide using it will trip Knox.
Already knowing the unofficial software warning when rebooting from my current phone, this is a nuisance i"d like to avoid.
Sadly, the disable option for all Knox apps is inaccessible.
Does anyone know how to enable disabling them on the not yet rooted phone?

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