I"d like to root my new phone before putting any stuff on it, but according to the Magisk installation guide using it will trip Knox.
Already knowing the unofficial software warning when rebooting from my current phone, this is a nuisance i"d like to avoid.
Sadly, the disable option for all Knox apps is inaccessible.
Does anyone know how to enable disabling them on the not yet rooted phone?
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An OTA update to 5.1.1 loaded last week for my G920I and I am unable to uninstall Knox or disable it. Does anyone know how to do it without root? I am a huge supporter of rooted devices but this one does not have a whole lot of bloat so I would rather keep it unrooted. All the instructions point to a Knox icon and main settings in Knox which I do not have. Knox is loaded and running and alsmost using up a gig of ram. I had Knox enabled in 5.0.3 before the OTA update and it appears to be enabled still in 5.1.1. I do not care about security and I am careful about what I install and I don't need a system app running and wasting battery and ram. Thanks
I have disabled most knox services with package Disabler pro (no root ) still some knox services seems to be running
Not possible to fully remove without root. Services will be still running
Sorry to dig up this old post but I'm wondering if I reset the phone to factory specs will the Knox also go to default disabled state?
I'm seeing different ways of rooting the 925 but nothing with the newest boh1 that sprint has. I don't want to brick my phone. All I really want at this time is to root it so I can have superuser access and remove some bloatware. I'd prefer to not trip my knox. I'd also like to have everything else stay the same. I.E. programs, functions, access to sprint, and samsung apps. Are there any options at this point that won't also kill my battery and let it goto sleep?
peglegpete said:
I'm seeing different ways of rooting the 925 but nothing with the newest boh1 that sprint has. I don't want to brick my phone. All I really want at this time is to root it so I can have superuser access and remove some bloatware. I'd prefer to not trip my knox. I'd also like to have everything else stay the same. I.E. programs, functions, access to sprint, and samsung apps. Are there any options at this point that won't also kill my battery and let it goto sleep?
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Can't currently root without tripping knox. The process is the same as the previous 5.1.1 releases. Be sure bootloader is unlocked then custom kernel to achieve root.
So I recently got the Galaxy s6. I had a note 3 prior to this, it was rooted but I could never get it to encrypt while being rooted. So this time I decided to encrypt my phone before rooting it, I still haven't tried rooting it I'm fear of the encryption bricking my phone. Can someone put my mind to ease that it would? I been searching on Google and couldn't find anything. Also, if that is the case, how do I encrypt a phone after I root it?
Edit: another question I can't find a straight answer to, what exactly does Knox do? I can't seem to find the Knox app on my s6 like I did with my note 3. I checked on the s6 and Knox hasn't been tripped
I don't know about the root/encryption thing.
But there's two things KNOX does.
One it is used for enterprise purposes where you can store confidential data on a KNOX encrypted partition.
Two, it is the detecting mechanism that checks wether your phone has been rooted/unlocked.
You can't find the app because you need to download it from the Play Store on the S6 and newer Samsung devices.
@MikeChannon, thread is dead. Lock it up.
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hi folks. i have an unrooted s7 exynos. i would like to install some modified system apps like the blackout apps. youtube, google app etc. i need root to do that but have concerns about android pay. i know this will permanently trip knox and kill samsung pay but not bothered about spay.
i also know that i can potentially use magisk and still be able to use android pay, but that situation seems fluid. anyone know if i can root, change system apps, unroot, and still be guaranteed android pay working? or is it any modification at all to /system that will block it? and if that is the case, presumably reflashing stock rom to recover android pay access should work?
cheers.
If you pass safety net then android pay will work, in theory if you successfully unrooted with no traces left behind then safety net will pass. But the challenge would be a clean unroot, I'm not sure how easy that is. Most unroot methods I've seen are a reset, so you'd lose your app changes anyway.
Magisk is quite effective, afaik the only thing it can't hide from saftey net is Xposed.
Suppose I have rooted my phone and my Knox gets tripped then what if I flash the brand new official firmware then will everything be normal?
Once knox is tripped it's gone forever
EugenStanis said:
Once knox is tripped it's gone forever
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What if i flash a brand new official firmware?
__ashuuu.02 said:
What if i flash a brand new official firmware?
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Knox will be tripped like before, some functions may not work.
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Suppose I have rooted my phone and my Knox gets tripped then what if I flash the brand new official firmware then will everything be normal?
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There is a LSposed module supposedly for knox features, never tried it though.
I haven't tried it yet, either. https://github.com/BlackMesa123/KnoxPatch
No matter what, of course (for the OP), Knox will be permanently tripped, and there's no way to untrip it.
So, the KNOX status is stored in an "efuse" (electronic fuse), once tripped it cannot be reset, the only way to "fix it" is to replace the entire motherboard, not worth the cost.
You can of course put back a native/oficial firmware, most things will work, but anything that is using the KNOX flag will fail.
From what i remember this are a few of the things that will not work anymore :
- samsung health
- samsung payment
- secure folder
- possibly the dual account support (work/personal) won't work, never used it so not sure
If you don't use those then it's not an issue to have the flag.
You can also use an xpose/lsposed module to hide the knox status, but there's no guarantee that it works or that a firmware update won't make that module fail in the future.
Also, i had a banking app (from a romanian bank) that didn't work with tripped knox, but they did give an update that fixed it so as long as the phone was not rooted the bank app worked without issues (this was about 5-6 years ago on a Note 3)
If you really need to use an app that checks the Knox status, the easisest/cheapest would be to get a second hand phone (with the flag still intact) and sell this one, you'll loose some money but it will be cheaper than replacing the entire motherboard
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So, the KNOX status is stored in an "efuse" (electronic fuse), once tripped it cannot be reset, the only way to "fix it" is to replace the entire motherboard, not worth the cost.
You can of course put back a native/oficial firmware, most things will work, but anything that is using the KNOX flag will fail.
From what i remember this are a few of the things that will not work anymore :
- samsung health
- samsung payment
- secure folder
- possibly the dual account support (work/personal) won't work, never used it so not sure
If you don't use those then it's not an issue to have the flag.
You can also use an xpose/lsposed module to hide the knox status, but there's no guarantee that it works or that a firmware update won't make that module fail in the future.
Also, i had a banking app (from a romanian bank) that didn't work with tripped knox, but they did give an update that fixed it so as long as the phone was not rooted the bank app worked without issues (this was about 5-6 years ago on a Note 3)
If you really need to use an app that checks the Knox status, the easisest/cheapest would be to get a second hand phone (with the flag still intact) and sell this one, you'll loose some money but it will be cheaper than replacing the entire
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thank you very much your reply helped me a lot you explained everything very well thank you
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