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Does anyone agree that sony still hasn't rolled out the "fixed" nougat?

I'm on Xperia Z5 (E6653, Vodafone UK) haven't still got Nougat, I know it takes some time for it to arrive to carrier based devices but the problem is that this new 32.3.A.0.376 Has only rolled out to regions that received Nougat before. XperiFirm shows that only 4 regions; Australia, Philippines, Russia and Thailand have got the update. the same regions were also the first regions who got the first Nougat build, Judging by a little number jump on the build number (3 to 6), I'm thinking this is a little update to fix some little bugs, not major stuff. I think the major update is yet to come with big fixes. What do you guys think?

Daniel Craig said:
I'm on Xperia Z5 (E6653, Vodafone UK) haven't still got Nougat, I know it takes some time for it to arrive to carrier based devices but the problem is that this new 32.3.A.0.376 Has only rolled out to regions that received Nougat before. XperiFirm shows that only 4 regions; Australia, Philippines, Russia and Thailand have got the update. the same regions were also the first regions who got the first Nougat build, Judging by a little number jump on the build number (3 to 6), I'm thinking this is a little update to fix some little bugs, not major stuff. I think the major update is yet to come with big fixes. What do you guys think?
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It is BS update for sure, maybe they will release normal update.

L33Tgod said:
It is BS update for sure, maybe they will release normal update.
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I do hope so, along with the latest security patches. fingers crossed.

@Daniel Craig
You have NOT nougat. (376)
You did not experience nougat. (376)
Why did you ask this question?
What do you expect from Nougat?
It has nougat features, but nothing special.

sceryavuz said:
@Daniel Craig
You have NOT nougat. (376)
You did not experience nougat. (376)
Why did you ask this question?
What do you expect from Nougat?
It has nougat features, but nothing special.
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Look I might not have Nougat but I've seen it on a friends Z5 in which he flashed it, it's good but he says it got bugs. your third question I won't answer because It's already answered on the first post. and all I want from Nougat is a bug-free and smooth running update, although Xperia X lockscreen and manual camera controls would be nice which they didn't include.

You have a good point and I was thinking along the same lines, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the fixed Nougat and it is just that buggy.
The update rolled out near the end of the week and they don't seem to roll out updates on weekends often. If I recall RU was also one of the first to get Marshmallow and places like Taiwan only got it a week later. 6.1 took even longer for some places...
EDIT: Also, TH did not get Nougat before. They got the small .11 update in the weeks after Nougat was pulled back.
https://xpericheck.com/cda/1299-8597

Daniel Craig said:
Look I might not have Nougat but I've seen it on a friends Z5 in which he flashed it, it's good but he says it got bugs. your third question I won't answer because It's already answered on the first post. and all I want from Nougat is a bug-free and smooth running update, although Xperia X lockscreen and manual camera controls would be nice which they didn't include.
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Xperia X lockscreen and manual camera controls
Agreed :good:
376 N has not bug.

FYLin21 said:
You have a good point and I was thinking along the same lines, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is the fixed Nougat and it is just that buggy.
The update rolled out near the end of the week and they don't seem to roll out updates on weekends often. If I recall RU was also one of the first to get Marshmallow and places like Taiwan only got it a week later. 6.1 took even longer for some places...
EDIT: Also, TH did not get Nougat before. They got the small .11 update in the weeks after Nougat was pulled back.
https://xpericheck.com/cda/1299-8597
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Let's just hope it gets to UK fast, or I'm gonna flash the AU firmware.

I have audio playback issue, Music and third-party apps' sound won't play together and there's lag in call log, though photo analyzer is fast now.
Anyone with the same issues or a fix?

Well I do think they're taking too long this time around.... The weekend is over and still no Z5 updates. They did roll out the update on the Z4 tablet yesterday but that was it...

I am in Middle East, Iran , got lastest update android N via flash tools ( also I got it OTA)
But It is a total shame!
Battery drains so fast , apps get crashed some times , and you can't believe it is your SONY Z5!
I had real bad experience with Nougat, so decided to roll back to 6.0.1 , much better.
Waiting for an update from SONY to get best features.

FYLin21 said:
Well I do think they're taking too long this time around.... The weekend is over and still no Z5 updates. They did roll out the update on the Z4 tablet yesterday but that was it...
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Check with Xperia Companion. You'll get it.
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hfaraji11 said:
I am in Middle East, Iran , got lastest update android N via flash tools ( also I got it OTA)
But It is a total shame!
Battery drains so fast , apps get crashed some times , and you can't believe it is your SONY Z5!
I had real bad experience with Nougat, so decided to roll back to 6.0.1 , much better.
Waiting for an update from SONY to get best features.
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It's worth upgrading for me. Super smooth, no battery drain, pleasing battery icon, no more sim tag in status bar is awesome. Call log UI is great, finger print sensor is blazing fast. Not obsessed with X locksreen anyway. Camera swipe to change camera is great.
Disappointing is that we don't have Vulkan, I don't know why.

I have this issue : when placing a call with speaker on, the mic doesn't work. Could you guys try and tell me?

FYLin21 said:
Well I do think they're taking too long this time around.... The weekend is over and still no Z5 updates. They did roll out the update on the Z4 tablet yesterday but that was it...
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I've Updated to Nougat, couldn't wait and flashed the AU firmware.
Ali Shayzadag said:
I have audio playback issue, Music and third-party apps' sound won't play together and there's lag in call log, though photo analyzer is fast now.
Anyone with the same issues or a fix?
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Which version are you on? 376 or 372? I'm on 372 still haven't updated to 376 and I can say the volume bug is the worst bug I've ever encountered, I can't hear my ringtone. There's also this bug in which contacts and phone apps' accent colors don't change.

I had to rollback to mm, actually using romx because Nougat has a terrible thermal management and battery give me about 2 SOT

crisout said:
I had to rollback to mm, actually using romx because Nougat has a terrible thermal management and battery give me about 2 SOT
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I'd hate to disagree on that. Nougat has better thermal management than on MM. But I guess it varies from person to person.

iArvee said:
I'd hate to disagree on that. Nougat has better thermal management than on MM. But I guess it varies from person to person.
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What variant are you using? I tried Au and phi, I got about 2 sot, on mm used to get 4 hours.
Someone told to try the Russian variant

I updated to 376 and I can say that the battery life is much much better, fingerprint is very fast sometimes I just press the power button and it unlocks, volume bug is fixed and thermal management is great; there's no annoying heat. And the reason there's no Vulkan is that the drivers for it hasn't been released for 810.

Daniel Craig said:
I've Updated to Nougat, couldn't wait and flashed the AU firmware.
Which version are you on? 376 or 372? I'm on 372 still haven't updated to 376 and I can say the volume bug is the worst bug I've ever encountered, I can't hear my ringtone. There's also this bug in which contacts and phone apps' accent colors don't change.
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376 and still these issues. Photo analyzing fast though. Accent change is OK here (376). Audio playback issue with games is there for me as I said before and lag in phone's app.

Ali Shayzadag said:
376 and still these issues. Photo analyzing fast though. Accent change is OK here (376). Audio playback issue with games is there for me as I said before and lag in phone's app.
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Your accent bug is fixed on phone and contacts? Here check this screenshot, I'm running a dark gray accent theme but the phone app shows a blue accent, other apps like messaging and settings work fine. Just phone and contacts.

Camera Focus Problem

Anyone's camera having trouble focusing more than a few inches from the camera? In monochrome mode, it focuses fine, but in regular camera or video mode, mine can't focus properly. I tried resetting the camera app, but that didn't help.

Yeah, having the same issues on our Mate 9 (Chinese Version) since the latest patch for EMUI 5.0... We tried a factory reset but nothing worked so far. Hoping for a fix soon...
Current software version is MHA-AL00C00B175

def4ke said:
Yeah, having the same issues on our Mate 9 (Chinese Version) since the latest patch for EMUI 5.0... We tried a factory reset but nothing worked so far. Hoping for a fix soon...
Current software version is MHA-AL00C00B175
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I sent mine in to Huawei for repair last week. Waiting to hear back if it will be a repair or replacement. While I was waiting for the shipping label, there was a day where it started working, but then it stopped again.

Also noticed that the focus works fine for close objects, just everything farther away than about half a meter gets blurry... I dearly hope its just a software issue instead of a hardware error...

def4ke said:
Also noticed that the focus works fine for close objects, just everything farther away than about half a meter gets blurry... I dearly hope its just a software issue instead of a hardware error...
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That was the same with mine. Factory reset didn't help. When I first got it, I actually had the opposite problem but thought I just needed to put macro mode on.
I got my phone secondhand so I don't know if it came like that. The one day it worked again, it did seem like it was slightly blurry though.

Has there been any update on these issues?
My ADM mate 9 has the same issues as above.

75cortina said:
Has there been any update on these issues?
My ADM mate 9 has the same issues as above.
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Mine arrived there almost 3 weeks ago and I'm still waiting. It's been almost 2 weeks since I got an email from the repair center saying they're looking at it. CS seems disconnected from the repair center and can't give any kind of estimate.

Received a replacement phone today so I'm not sure what the actual problem was. I'm pretty sure I only got the replacement because I called to complain that it had been a month. It's probably better that I got a replacement instead of a repair though.

I have the same problem
Did any one have a solution?
Did Huawei replace the unit or fix the problem?
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I have the same problem
Did any one have a solution?
Did Huawei replace the unit or fix the problem?
Plz answer
[email protected]ahoo.com
Thnx
Dr Ahmed

Did you read my post above? They sent me a replacement so I don't know what the fix is. My guess is it's a hardware problem though. Going through warranty if it's available to you is the best option. It may be a long painful process like it was for me though.

All with camera focus problem are with Chinese version of Mate9?

Mine is US. I don't know what versions other people have.

I'm having the exact same issue, with monochromatic looks perfect. But in the rest modes look awful

mine is a huawei mate 9 pro lon-al00c

Our phone was sent in as RMA too, the seller confirmed the hardware problem and repaired it apparantly, just received a noticed that its done and will be sent on its way back to us... I will report if it seems like an actual repair or a replacement, took about 3 weeks + about a week for shipping to china. Lets hope that problem doesnt affect all mate9

But it looks like a software issue, monochoromatic looks perfect

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But it looks like a software issue, monochoromatic looks perfect
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You do know that the mate9 has 2 different camera modules, one color and one monochromatic? If it would be a software issue, there wouldnt be any need for repair/replacement, just an update...

I have the same problem. After searching online for this issue, I realized that it's a hardware issue with the color camera. If I smack the phone, while the camera app is on, the camera is able to focus a bit better. Not 100% though. Very annoying... BTW, I'm on the US version with the B190 build.
Sent from my MHA-L29 using Tapatalk

I've solved my problem Debranding the phone. Mine was mate 9 pro Chinese version lon al00. Now I'm on Lon al29. Europe Version. With the bootloader unlocked and a debranded from funky huawei. Thanks a lot to all

P10 cannot focus
Camera cannot focus but monochrome and front camera is working well .so anyone can email me , is there anyway to repair or is it possible software issue ? Kindly let me know the possible solution.
[email protected]'m
Thanks

November security patch discussion

It's a rather big download this month (200mb+), does anyone know what's changed? I've not spotted anything so far.

Xiaomi announce patch notes for security updates?.

rumors say that xiaomi rolls out big security patches shortly before rolling out new android version. so maybe Pie is coming

Maybe they needed more space for including new bugs like the one with Dutch language.

Don't know how reliable this is but the chart says 2019 1st quarter for Pie update.

I think battery life took a hit

ouroboros12 said:
I think battery life took a hit
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I noticed that to, i pulled a lower SoT by an hour from my ussual average SoT... Strange...

The problem with the phone waking up inside the pocket has been fixed.

New *** New ***
Memory is now specified in GB-inches :laugh:

The November update fixed a huge problem for Italian users.
After 9.6.4.0 update (June?) most of them lost the second SIM slot; I mean, the SIM was inserted and active, but MIA2Lite didn't registered it. So, unusable at end.
This update fixed this issue, finally

i think this release feels a touch snappier.

Any big change? I'm still in September waiting for a big update in order to flash from zero.
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Mi A2 pie beta build leaked. May be pie is coming to daisy sooner then we think.

mms047 said:
Mi A2 pie beta build leaked. May be pie is coming to daisy sooner then we think.
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Yea i feel te touchscreen a bit snappier after the update
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mms047 said:
Mi A2 pie beta build leaked. May be pie is coming to daisy sooner then we think.
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Yea, i have seen on Twitter it'll be next week for daisy

We might get a beta by december. Hopefully.

Why do all of you are waiting for pie? What are the benefits you suppose?
I'm only interested in tech benefits, all what has to do with "looking better" or "kiddy playings" isn't worth updating in my eyes.

harvey said:
Why do all of you are waiting for pie? What are the benefits you suppose?
I'm only interested in tech benefits, all what has to do with "looking better" or "kiddy playings" isn't worth updating in my eyes.
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All the new function and gesture are tech benefits to me, what are you expecting as your "tech benefits"?

for example stock-Camera with nightsight like gcam, integrated adblocker, firewall and so on. Its basically a linuxsystem, so why we could only use underlying resources like iptables only with thirdparty software and rooting? Maybe i'm too old, but new gestures, brighter colors are for me "kiddies playing ground".

harvey said:
Why do all of you are waiting for pie? What are the benefits you suppose?
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A usable android auto.

Ok im not sure if this was here before or its a bug but i dont think so or havent noticed it pre update... When the phone is locked and u just press the power button to light it up to see the clock, and dont touch it further, the screen stays awake in lockscreen for the full 1min that is set in the display awake settings... Shouldnt it be wake like just a couple of second in lockscreen when u just dont unlock or touch it? Im think that was the case before cant remember rly... I know every phone i had before does that...

Make POCO F1 stable

Instead of asking Xiaomi or the POCO team for more features, we should ask them to fix the basic issues such as touch issue(now it is only on the edges on my device with 8.12.27 firmware), and fix the notifications and hide notch options before moving onto new features like 60fps videos and such. It seems like the whole MIUI forum is filled with people asking for new features instead of making it stable.
Also can anyone comment on whether the touch is a hardware issue or a software one? Can it be fixed by devs of XDA?

itscooltime said:
Instead of asking Xiaomi or the POCO team for more features, we should ask them to fix the basic issues such as touch issue(now it is only on the edges on my device with 8.12.27 firmware), and fix the notifications and hide notch options before moving onto new features like 60fps videos and such. It seems like the whole MIUI forum is filled with people asking for new features instead of making it stable.
Also can anyone comment on whether the touch is a hardware issue or a software one? Can it be fixed by devs of XDA?
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it's hardware related, can be fix by software but the fix for some it's not equal to others, so hard to make a universal fix...

Can you clarify please ?
TioCareca said:
it's hardware related, can be fix by software but the fix for some it's not equal to others, so hard to make a universal fix...
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Hi, can you please guide to more info regd it's HW-related ? Thinking of buying one, but quite unclear what exactly going on with this issue.
Thanks in advance

maczpiku said:
Hi, can you please guide to more info regd it's HW-related ? Thinking of buying one, but quite unclear what exactly going on with this issue.
Thanks in advance
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Not really got an announcement for you to read, but if you search here in the forums you can see that different batches of the poco ( month of fabrication)(first batch even got screen bleeding) work better with some firmware versions and others work better with different firmware version, that is related that xiaomi is trying to fix the ghost touches by changing the way screen reacts to touch, but some batches work better in a way that make lag or ultra sensitive touch in others, that happens because the screen is not build the same way hence the "different" screens ...
Depending for what you will use the phone, that's not a really serious problem, noticeable more in some games...
Hope i explained myself good...q
Here are some testimony from users with different batches:
yoprateekyo said:
Touch issues are there in all the pocos except the latest batches now.
Touch issues are not severe are usable.
Some builds fixed half issues other created half.
If you wanna buy just buy you won't regret.
If touch gets perfect i am more than happy if not i can still live with it happily.
Rprpprrp ( i typed pr pr pr pr) this is issue.
But you will become habitual within a day or two. big deal.
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RohanAJoshi said:
Tp firmware is same for all.
But you have different touch panel than others.
Most of us have novatek which is sh*t.
You are lucky user.
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RohanAJoshi said:
Guys : Touch issue is real, face it or go for another model.
As per this thread suggest, even if you get newer touch screen panel, there is no 100 % guarantee that touch will work fine.
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Because : old panels all issues fixed from 8.11.23 beta to 8.12.20 beta, and in this period newer panels got issues.
So they reverted that fix in 8.12.27 beta. But then again same issues are back for old panels. And newer panels are good now.
Now old panel users are waiting for new update which includes 8.12.20 touch firmware.
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So Xiaomi has fix for everyone but they don't know proper way to implement it. ( recognising both users and applying fix upon it)
In coming days they will find it.
And everyone will be happy.
In worst case, you need to go service center for flashing new firmware with new bootloader which can recognize which panel you have.
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So, waiting is best way for it.
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mario123m said:
Oh that's interesting. Some people here claim that newer batches don't have the touch problem yet you seem to have the exact same issue as my unit which was assembled in July 2018. Full four months and the issue still there... That is why I don't believe there are Poco users who don't have this problem.
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rudge79 said:
Some things are a pattern: it involves all Poco f1 made in August 2018.
8.12.27 is the latest firmware we can use.
Any firmware which is more recent gives the black screen. So we must have a different display manufacturer.
The only solution I see is to update vendor and firmware without the display drivers.
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jineshpatel30 said:
From what i understood and feel by flashing almost every Pie beta & stable is, there are atleast 2 set of touch screen that Xiaomi used in POCO F1, so we are getting conflicting results/reviews in term of touch response.
So, if you try to satisfy ones for whom touch is good enough with Pie stable of current beta build other segment will cry-out loud with issue, if you go with older beta build like 8.12.20 then people like me whose device work good enough on stable Pie will face touch issue.
So, it's never ending game and Xiaomi should accept the hardware issue, replace & be done with it.
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Update A51

Hey, did you get august security patch ?

no im waiting...

mahdi72 said:
no im waiting...
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Last in 1. June?

Clodagh22 said:
Last in 1. June?
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yes,
india recived new update

still nothing?

Ditto. But I'm keeping a eye on samfirm for mine.
Sent from my Samsung SM-A515F using XDA Labs

A515FXXU3BTH4 with september security patch will start rolling out in the coming days

I recived bth4 today?

Still nothing. Bosnia

Lmao phones with BTU CSC receive updates slowly. Anyone knows which CSC is the one to get the fastest updates?

Germany unlocked still on June security patch as well
Is it really that hard to push security updates?

Why that rush for a security update? It's only that, phone will still be slow af.

ramping said:
Why that rush for a security update? It's only that, phone will still be slow af.
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How that slow? I was planning on getting this phone, tell me more

Just received A51FXXU3BTH4 September security path and improved camera stability

september 1st
Dinepada said:
How that slow? I was planning on getting this phone, tell me more
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my phone just updated the android security patch level 1 september 2020
works just fine for me, nothing slower.

Working better after update, that's for sure.
Slow WI FI problem still exists though.

Dinepada said:
How that slow? I was planning on getting this phone, tell me more
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I received the September update and still the phone has the same issues: inaccurate and slow fingerprint, buggy software so scrolling isn't smooth nor some animations. The fingerprint has improved a little but not much. Disappointing from Samsung: they can't even push a good update to fix the problems and MAKE THE PHONE USABLE! WHY DO SAMSUNG NOT CARE?! DON'T RELEASE A PHONE WITH PROBLEMS AND NOT EVEN FIX THEM WITH AN UPDATE! DON'T JUST MAKE THE PHONE AND NOT CARE ABOUT THE SOFTWARE, WHEN IT'S THE SOFTWARE ALSO THAT MAKES THE PHONE GOOD.
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albusdanbledore said:
my phone just updated the android security patch level 1 september 2020
works just fine for me, nothing slower.
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no nothing slower because it's STILL as slow as before. Same laggy software

i received my spetember update 2 weeks ago, and everything seems fine, i bought my phone 2 months ago and it is very smooth since day one.

remar786 said:
I received the September update and still the phone has the same issues: inaccurate and slow fingerprint, buggy software so scrolling isn't smooth nor some animations. The fingerprint has improved a little but not much. Disappointing from Samsung: they can't even push a good update to fix the problems and MAKE THE PHONE USABLE! WHY DO SAMSUNG NOT CARE?! DON'T RELEASE A PHONE WITH PROBLEMS AND NOT EVEN FIX THEM WITH AN UPDATE! DON'T JUST MAKE THE PHONE AND NOT CARE ABOUT THE SOFTWARE, WHEN IT'S THE SOFTWARE ALSO THAT MAKES THE PHONE GOOD.
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no nothing slower because it's STILL as slow as before. Same laggy software
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fingerprint slow and inaccurate yes, but scrolling is quite smooth for me, i dont use this phone for gaming and i'm not power user, just ordinary user, apps that i use in this phone is perform like it supposed to do, its fine..
well probably because i never experience flagship phone before ---i was using xiaomi redmi 3 pro before this as a daily driver---, so this kinda "performance" is fine for me, quite happy using it.

albusdanbledore said:
fingerprint slow and inaccurate yes, but scrolling is quite smooth for me, i dont use this phone for gaming and i'm not power user, just ordinary user, apps that i use in this phone is perform like it supposed to do, its fine..
well probably because i never experience flagship phone before ---i was using xiaomi redmi 3 pro before this as a daily driver---, so this kinda "performance" is fine for me, quite happy using it.
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Agree to simple use it's just fine. My biggest concern is battery. I hope Samsung planning to address this issue with upcoming updates.