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Hangouts push notifications not working

Hello,
My Hangouts push notifications stopped working along with some other push notifications. The problem seems to have started a couple of days ago after I reset the Google Services Framework trying to trigger the OTA update for 5.0
This is really frustrating, and I seem to be unable to fix the problem with resetting Hangouts, resetting Services Framework, setting notification check on and off again.
Please advise. Thank you!

I've done exactly the same thing with the same result on my 2014 Moto X :crying:
Any ideas how to fix without factory reset?

peeb said:
I've done exactly the same thing with the same result on my 2014 Moto X :crying:
Any ideas how to fix without factory reset?
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Well, I must report that I manager to solve the issue. I've done all these things before, but not in this sequence, and the fix did not seem to to work until I did this:
Go to settings -> apps -> Hangouts -> clear cache, data, uninstall updates -> then restart the phone -> let itself update and it worked for me.

The reason that happened in the first place is that you cleared data for Google Services Framework. This has absolutely nothing to do with triggering the OTA. Those are the facts given to the world directly from a Google engineer.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1r1n5z/
http://www.talkandroid.com/185088-g...houldnt-clear-google-services-framework-data/
"Morris talked a little about the OTA update process, and why it might take a while for some users to get it. Essentially the update starts on 1% of devices over 24-48 hours. It then moves up towards 100% over a week or so. Updates are essentially done in batches, so pressing the “Check for Updates” button over and over really isn’t going to affect when you get that update much."
Next time be patient or just flash factory images or update.zip. Every time you try to fix it again by clearing GSF you're basically breaking it again.
tl;dr, stop clearing Google services framework, that's what is breaking your push notifications.

Thanks, I understand that much. But in prior versions, clearing GSF would trigger OTA update with 100% success, nor would it mess up push notifications from apps either, so I thought why not try lol. Looks like Google has removed this workaround this time...

I have same problem with hangs push notifications after update to Lollipop. They cannot be delivered at all. I cannot see history chat in real-time messages arrived. History updates after scroll down only.
Above sulutioon cannot be done. Hangs app hasn:t uninstall state button, it hs only on-off states.

How do I stop a system update while downloading?

I have an HTC 10. I have heard so many horror stories on significant battery drain issue after the Oreo update so I have not updated to Oreo yet. I have read somewhere the issue has been resolved on Android's end but there is no more update on the HTC end to incorporate this update for the HTC 10. So every time the Oreo system update prompt came up I did not allow to update to proceed. I had it set to update only on WIFI and always ask me prior.
This morning I must have accidentally hit OK when the prompt came up while I was scrolling the screen for something else and it started to update. I immediately turned off WIFI but it continued the download with my mobile data. So I turned off mobile data as well on my phone. Right now I am at:
Software Update: 3.16.617.2 (1.32GB) Download is paused because your data connection was lost.
Shows a status bar at 3%.
I cannot find a way to cancel or stop this download and subsequent update. Is there a way?
I tried long press on the download screen, the Updater only has options of: Block all, Show silently, On the lock screen, Override do not disturb, all having to do with notification presentations but nothing to cancel the download altogether.
I went into Settings > Apps and popped up Device Configuration and did a FORCE STOP. that didn't do anything. There is an option there to UNINSTALL UPDATES but I didn't touch it since the update hasn't started yet and not sure if this app even deal with system updates.

Just tried a Wipe Cache Partition and rebooted. The system download is still being queued. There is no way to stop this?
I am surprise it will continue to download this huge file even with WIFI off. I had it set to not download any updates unless WIFI, but I guess now I understand it means this is only checked when download started, once it started it will download on my cellular network if WIFI goes out of range? This is a poor design.
Now if I let it download, is there a way to stop the update once the download is completed?

I went ahead and turned on WIFI to allow the downloading to complete. Once it completed it asked me about installing with two options:
Install Now
Install Later
I selected Install Later and it gave me a choice of being reminded again in:
30 minutes
1 hour
2 hours
4 hours
So I selected 4 hours and dismissed it for now. It will ask again in 4 hours, I assume there is no way to dismiss it for a month or a year.
So now I have two questions:
(1) Is there a way to disable this reminder prompt?
(2) Where is this downloaded file? Can I find it with a file manager and delete it? and if it is deleted will it trigger an auto download again or will it go back to just prompting me to download once in a while like before?

miamicuse said:
I went ahead and turned on WIFI to allow the downloading to complete. Once it completed it asked me about installing with two options:
Install Now
Install Later
I selected Install Later and it gave me a choice of being reminded again in:
30 minutes
1 hour
2 hours
4 hours
So I selected 4 hours and dismissed it for now. It will ask again in 4 hours, I assume there is no way to dismiss it for a month or a year.
So now I have two questions:
(1) Is there a way to disable this reminder prompt?
(2) Where is this downloaded file? Can I find it with a file manager and delete it? and if it is deleted will it trigger an auto download again or will it go back to just prompting me to download once in a while like before?
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There may or may not be a method to disable the update notification but it will require root. You'll probably have to figure out how to disable the notification for yourself.
Try doing a Google search for:
"Disable update notification (your model number)"
Or
"Disable update notification on android"
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well,it just get better and better LOL.
I didn't want to install the system update, but it happened, accidentally. I was out and about, and was in a middle of texting someone, and for a split second while I typed, the system update screen popped up. Since I was in the middle of typing, it took my typing as a confirmation to "Install Now" and began the update. Never mind I only had 31% of battery left at that time and never mind I was not even home and needed the phone. I just can't imagine Google never even bothered with a "Are you sure you want to update now?" prompt. Incredible.
So after it finished the update, a good 30 minutes later, it rebooted, then did more updates, rebooted, and eventually, it started up again, and a lock screen pattern dialog popped up. I put in my pattern and it says it is not recognized. I am certain the pattern is the one I set. Yet something caused the correct pattern to not be recognized. So now I no longer can access my phone. It says I have 28 more tries before it deletes all phone data.
So now I am totally crippled without a chance to even back up all my data.
Anyone know of a way to bypass the lock screen pattern?
If I have to factory reset in order to access my phone again, will the reset bring back Android 7 (original delivered version of the phone) or will it be Oreo (new updated version)?

miamicuse said:
well,it just get better and better LOL.
I didn't want to install the system update, but it happened, accidentally. I was out and about, and was in a middle of texting someone, and for a split second while I typed, the system update screen popped up. Since I was in the middle of typing, it took my typing as a confirmation to "Install Now" and began the update. Never mind I only had 31% of battery left at that time and never mind I was not even home and needed the phone. I just can't imagine Google never even bothered with a "Are you sure you want to update now?" prompt. Incredible.
So after it finished the update, a good 30 minutes later, it rebooted, then did more updates, rebooted, and eventually, it started up again, and a lock screen pattern dialog popped up. I put in my pattern and it says it is not recognized. I am certain the pattern is the one I set. Yet something caused the correct pattern to not be recognized. So now I no longer can access my phone. It says I have 28 more tries before it deletes all phone data.
So now I am totally crippled without a chance to even back up all my data.
Anyone know of a way to bypass the lock screen pattern?
If I have to factory reset in order to access my phone again, will the reset bring back Android 7 (original delivered version of the phone) or will it be Oreo (new updated version)?
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If you want to keep all of your data intact, root the device, then try this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2620456
Or this:
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/change-remove-lockscreen-pattern-pin-password-adb-android-oreo/
Or, you can factory reset via recovery, it will wipe all of your data though.
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I have found myself in almost the same situation as the OP.
Like the OP, I don't want to upgrade to Oreo, but somehow did something that my phone interpreted as asking it to start downloading the update. Since my system update is set to download only on WiFi, turning off WiFi stopped the download at 0% done.
*Unlike* the OP, my phone is still in the state of having not yet downloaded the update, so I'm still (for now) securely on Nougat. But my notification bar icon now shows the animated download arrow, and the notification shade shows my system update as "Queued". I'm guessing that this is causing extra battery drain, and it's also really annoying.
I've tried a web search on cancelling a scheduled Android update, and found some interesting information suggesting that I stop the DMClient app. But this wasn't specific to either my phone or to a 7-8 upgrade, and I couldn't find an app by that name installed on my phone. I think I found something else recommending that I stop the Google Play services app and clear its cache. I *do* see that app, but I don't feel like experimenting with random web advice, and so thought I'd check here.
Here are two questions:
1) Is there anything I can do to stop my phone from trying to download and install the Oreo update?
2) If I do a factory reset, which Android would I be on after the reset?
Thanks for any help!

LLGreenGuy said:
I have found myself in almost the same situation as the OP.
Like the OP, I don't want to upgrade to Oreo, but somehow did something that my phone interpreted as asking it to start downloading the update. Since my system update is set to download only on WiFi, turning off WiFi stopped the download at 0% done.
*Unlike* the OP, my phone is still in the state of having not yet downloaded the update, so I'm still (for now) securely on Nougat. But my notification bar icon now shows the animated download arrow, and the notification shade shows my system update as "Queued". I'm guessing that this is causing extra battery drain, and it's also really annoying.
I've tried a web search on cancelling a scheduled Android update, and found some interesting information suggesting that I stop the DMClient app. But this wasn't specific to either my phone or to a 7-8 upgrade, and I couldn't find an app by that name installed on my phone. I think I found something else recommending that I stop the Google Play services app and clear its cache. I *do* see that app, but I don't feel like experimenting with random web advice, and so thought I'd check here.
Here are two questions:
1) Is there anything I can do to stop my phone from trying to download and install the Oreo update?
2) If I do a factory reset, which Android would I be on after the reset?
Thanks for any help!
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Flash the marshmallow firmware for your device via PC using your devices specific flashtool. It will remove everything and put you back to what you had before triggering the update.
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Droidriven said:
Flash the marshmallow firmware for your device via PC using your devices specific flashtool. It will remove everything and put you back to what you had before triggering the update.
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Thanks for the response, Droidriven.
I actually figured out a way to stop the phone trying to download the update, which I'll describe below, but first I have two questions about the solution you offered: Is there a reason you said to flash Marshmallow firmwaer rather than Nougat, since the update I'm trying to avoid is the one to Oreo? And, if I did that, how would I get back to Nougat?
But I said that I figured out a solution, and I hope that it may help if someone else finds themselves in my situation. Here is what I did:
1) I determined that the app trying to perform the update on my HTC 10 is a system app called "Updater"
I found this by long-clicking on the notification shade item about the update, and selecting more information. The phone displayed notification options for the Updater app.
2) I cleared cache and data for the Updater app
I went to Updater's app info page via via Settings >> Apps >> All apps. Updater is a system app, so I had to use the kebab menu in the upper right corner of the All apps screen to tell the phone to display system apps. Once there, I went to the "Storage" screen and cleared cache and data.
3) I restarted the phone, and "cleaned up" after what I had done
When my phone powered back on after the restart, there was *nothing* at all related to a system update in the notification bar. I turned on cellular data (but left WiFi off), and went to Settings >> About >> Software Updates. The phone checked for a few seconds, during which I could see (behind the "checking" popup) that the box for downloading only over WiFi was clear. This made sense, since this setting must be an option for the app I had just wiped. After maybe 15 seconds, the phone displayed a screen offering me the 3.16.617.2 system update. I used the back button to close that window, which left me on the screen where I could re-check the option to download system updates only over WiFi. Naturally, I re-checked this option.
That's it. My phone is now once again displaying a notification bar icon offering me the Oreo update, but it no longer thinks I told it to proceed with this update. I have been on WiFi a couple of times since doing this, and the phone has not tried to start the download.
I'm guessing that I could get this notification bar icon to go away by hiding notifications for the Updater app, but have not yet done so.
Thanks again, Droidriven, and I hope what I figured out is helpful to someone else.

LLGreenGuy said:
Thanks for the response, Droidriven.
I actually figured out a way to stop the phone trying to download the update, which I'll describe below, but first I have two questions about the solution you offered: Is there a reason you said to flash Marshmallow firmwaer rather than Nougat, since the update I'm trying to avoid is the one to Oreo? And, if I did that, how would I get back to Nougat?
But I said that I figured out a solution, and I hope that it may help if someone else finds themselves in my situation. Here is what I did:
1) I determined that the app trying to perform the update on my HTC 10 is a system app called "Updater"
I found this by long-clicking on the notification shade item about the update, and selecting more information. The phone displayed notification options for the Updater app.
2) I cleared cache and data for the Updater app
I went to Updater's app info page via via Settings >> Apps >> All apps. Updater is a system app, so I had to use the kebab menu in the upper right corner of the All apps screen to tell the phone to display system apps. Once there, I went to the "Storage" screen and cleared cache and data.
3) I restarted the phone, and "cleaned up" after what I had done
When my phone powered back on after the restart, there was *nothing* at all related to a system update in the notification bar. I turned on cellular data (but left WiFi off), and went to Settings >> About >> Software Updates. The phone checked for a few seconds, during which I could see (behind the "checking" popup) that the box for downloading only over WiFi was clear. This made sense, since this setting must be an option for the app I had just wiped. After maybe 15 seconds, the phone displayed a screen offering me the 3.16.617.2 system update. I used the back button to close that window, which left me on the screen where I could re-check the option to download system updates only over WiFi. Naturally, I re-checked this option.
That's it. My phone is now once again displaying a notification bar icon offering me the Oreo update, but it no longer thinks I told it to proceed with this update. I have been on WiFi a couple of times since doing this, and the phone has not tried to start the download.
I'm guessing that I could get this notification bar icon to go away by hiding notifications for the Updater app, but have not yet done so.
Thanks again, Droidriven, and I hope what I figured out is helpful to someone else.
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Yeah, I actually, meant to say nougat, lol.
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Pixel and Android 10 permissions question

So Android 10 is running great on my OG Pixel so far but I'm puzzled by the fact that I'm now getting random prompts that some random app that I haven't run in a long time has just requested location access. This might actually be more of an "how does android work" than a pixel question but I thought I'd ask here first. So apps that I haven't run in months will just get flagged for requesting location. An app like the TouchTunes app which uses location I understand but a network app like Fing? Why are these apps running at all? I know the phone has been rebooted since the last time I used these apps and I know for a fact that I've actively force stopped TouchTunes. Why are these apps waking up and requesting location?
PS: Love the fact that Android 10 is telling me about this as it's giving me an easy way to slowly work through permissions for all my apps!

Its all part of the new location privacy/permissions/security set up on 10 that flags up background location requests etc.
If you been into the main settings menu you will have probably seen the separate location tab with the new 3 level location settings, bit better than on or off lol.
Oh and those apps you force stopped have probably re started on reboot, if they have run at start perms a reboot will start them again when the system is fully booted.

junglism93 said:
Its all part of the new location privacy/permissions/security set up on 10 that flags up background location requests etc.
If you been into the main settings menu you will have probably seen the separate location tab with the new 3 level location settings, bit better than on or off lol.
Oh and those apps you force stopped have probably re started on reboot, if they have run at start perms a reboot will start them again when the system is fully booted.
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So my dumb question then is there an easy way to go through all apps and turn on/off run at startup?

JoeHockey said:
So my dumb question then is there an easy way to go through all apps and turn on/off run at startup?
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Not really mate, it's not a user facing permission that you can switch on and off in app settings like location etc.
I'm not even sure that would be possible nowadays even if your device is rooted?. All I can suggest is either disable it (if it allows) and open when needed or uninstall it.

Location of System Update Download?

I'm coming from OnePlus devices where this was never an issue for me in 6 years.
Is anyone else still on A10 and rooted, getting hard pushes from Google to update to A11? I've disabled both Dynamic System Updates and Factory OTA Mode apps to try to block updates from occurring and also stop getting pestered about it. After having to factory reset my device once, and re-load all my backed up apps and data, I continue to get push notifications to install A11. The one I just received was a normal-looking notification in the notification shade with a button to push to start the update process. This is something I could have easily accepted by accident. This already happened to me once, apparently.
--------Does anyone know in what directory Google stores a downloaded OTA update?
I have a feeling it is on my device now and I want it off. I have root and can get to hidden system folders. I assume it's in one, I just don't know what to look for.
--------How do I block from every automatically updating, permanently?
I have the system update on reboot unchecked in developer options, but is there something else I can do just kill this process?
Edit - I found the notification to turn off in Google Play Services so that should stop, but I'm still nervous about the OTA lying in wait to install on my phone.

digger16309 said:
I'm coming from OnePlus devices where this was never an issue for me in 6 years.
Is anyone else still on A10 and rooted, getting hard pushes from Google to update to A11? I've disabled both Dynamic System Updates and Factory OTA Mode apps to try to block updates from occurring and also stop getting pestered about it. After having to factory reset my device once, and re-load all my backed up apps and data, I continue to get push notifications to install A11. The one I just received was a normal-looking notification in the notification shade with a button to push to start the update process. This is something I could have easily accepted by accident. This already happened to me once, apparently.
--------Does anyone know in what directory Google stores a downloaded OTA update?
I have a feeling it is on my device now and I want it off. I have root and can get to hidden system folders. I assume it's in one, I just don't know what to look for.
--------How do I block from every automatically updating, permanently?
I have the system update on reboot unchecked in developer options, but is there something else I can do just kill this process?
Edit - I found the notification to turn off in Google Play Services so that should stop, but I'm still nervous about the OTA lying in wait to install on my phone.
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Look here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83691963&postcount=17

Question S21+ snapdragon issue

Hey
I am have problem with my s21+ g996u1..after frimware update i noticed that there is some app that trying to open randomly in background but then it close immediately..that happens every few minutes
There is a way to downgrade frimware?
There is a way to Recognize that app that trying
To open randomly and close?
Please helps

You can't degrade easily if at all from the factory installed version. Android 11 is a nightmare.
Start like this...
Clear system cache.
Fixed?
Try in safe mode, if this resolves it, it's likely a 3rd party app you loaded.
If it still is doing it in safe mode, it's a factory loaded or system app.
Go to Device Care>Memory, clear the apps.
Back out of it then open it again.
Expand the list and see if you can spot the app doing it as it loads. Disable that suspect app(s) to confirm if it's the culprit. A package disabler app is very nice to have when doing this.
With some persistence you will find it.
~or~
The easy way...
Go to a Samsung Experience center at Best Buy and have a Samsung tech run a diagnostic on it.
They can likely spot it.

On Battery and device care, click on bar graph in top.
Check the app issue, maybe will show your bad app.

RATOz said:
On Battery and device care, click on bar graph in top.
Check the app issue, maybe will show your bad app.
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Maybe but many apks are lumped together in Android Services. It's likely one of them or a Google app.
Problem apps don't always show under their name... that happens sometimes with the Google system apps.

Same here, S21+. After August update I've had the same issue as you, plus youtube fullscreen exiting every ~5 mins, Google Maps minimizing to window every ~5 mins, massive (2s+) freezes in games. None of this existed prior to this update. Someone messed up big time.
I installed the October update yesterday - to no avail, the issue persists.

EredarLord said:
Same here, S21+. After August update I've had the same issue as you, plus youtube fullscreen exiting every ~5 mins, Google Maps minimizing to window every ~5 mins, massive (2s+) freezes in games. None of this existed prior to this update. Someone messed up big time.
I installed the October update yesterday - to no avail, the issue persists.
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Sounds like power management is active.
Disable it...

blackhawk said:
Sounds like power management is active.
Disable it...
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If you mean power saving, then no, that's not the case. System cache clear didn't help either but I've just cleared the phone (factory reset), restored data with Smart Switch and looks like this helped. Gonna test it a bit more to confirm the solution.

EredarLord said:
If you mean power saving, then no, that's not the case. System cache clear didn't help either but I've just cleared the phone (factory reset), restored data with Smart Switch and looks like this helped. Gonna test it a bit more to confirm the solution.
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Good. I avoid doing all firmware updates if my OS is running fast, stable and fulfilling its mission. Security is not an issue as best I can tell unless you do something stupid*.
Updates can do a lot of damage... if you like your OS, let it be.
*always backup critical data redundantly to at least 2 hhds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
You can use a OTG flashstick for quick "dirty" backups, but have the bulk of the backup on data hdds.
I use my SD card as a data drive on my N10+'s, then backup that card. That's why I demand a SD card slot; dual drive setups are the only way to go. The OS, apps, and the temporary download folder are the only things on the internal memory.
In crashes the data drive is usually spared. I can do a full manual restore from that data drive minus a few lost settings.

On my S21 Ultra (SM-G998B/DS) I have the same issue with "background activity" creating screen hick/refresh and switch from landscape full screen video to portrait mode.
Started after November security FW update end October.
Checked all possible settings and removing all 3rd party apps, hick-ups do persist...
'Glad' to read about this issue/bug here too, as I started to doubt myself...