My 6p just died and I'm looking for a replacement. The sooner the better. If I buy a pixel 2 xl at Best Buy, will it be unlocked, or will it be a verizon bootloader can't be unlocked phone?
F350-6 said:
My 6p just died and I'm looking for a replacement. The sooner the better. If I buy a pixel 2 xl at Best Buy, will it be unlocked, or will it be a verizon bootloader can't be unlocked phone?
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It will be a Verizon model but honestly I have a Pixel 2 from Google with the bootloader unlocked with no desire to root. As long as you can get a good XL2 screen then go for it.
So on the unrooted phone, is there an option to decide how many icons wide by how many icons down the screen holds? Can you resize a widget to take up space you want it to? Can you install a different launcher? (I prefer my apps to be listed as text instead of a bunch of icons)
I think those are the big 3 for me in terms of custom rom or not. I'm not sure if you can do that with Oreo as I haven't been not rooted for a while.
Currently rocking my old Note 3 with Jasmine rom running android 5 while I figure this all out. At least I have a phone.
F350-6 said:
So on the unrooted phone, is there an option to decide how many icons wide by how many icons down the screen holds? Can you resize a widget to take up space you want it to? Can you install a different launcher? (I prefer my apps to be listed as text instead of a bunch of icons)
I think those are the big 3 for me in terms of custom rom or not. I'm not sure if you can do that with Oreo as I haven't been not rooted for a while.
Currently rocking my old Note 3 with Jasmine rom running android 5 while I figure this all out. At least I have a phone.
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You can install a launcher to do all those things.
Here is Nova launcher with Pixel 2 layout.
And Lawn chair Launcher for OG pixel layout.
And Another Widget to get the new weather and date layout from Pixel 2 with custom icons bring used on both. How that helps
Here is the Widget i referred too from the Pixel 2 set up.
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Coming from the Nexus 5x and there are many Oreo roms..so i was wondering why there ist noch Oreo Rom for the Pixel..? And dont get me wrong..i have no problem with that..Just wonderering
With Kind regards
Ah..OK..after some reading..the first step is not really good finished yet..custom Recovery and root.
Wow..never was thinking that root and other stuff will be so complicated as on an iPhone to get it Jailbreaked
Are we in the point that google want that we just use our phones..?
Then we dont need sources and others...
..sorry..but i must write it down here..and hope to get some answers..
.. because the way to get all things done..from the HTC desire (bravo with Android 1-2) till the Nexus 5x and Samsung s6 was always the same..and now this..
I have for sure some Experience to look behind some curtain..but atm i am a bit frustrated
Root is no problem, fastboot boot to TWRP and install it.
This phone is much more challenging than other handsets due to the fact Google has implemented dual booting partitions. It also seems they aren't as interested in the developer community now that they are making their own phones and not just putting out an OS for Android. So, this handset isn't as friendly for devs, except for those who are really into masochistic behavior (self punishment). If you're looking for a really robust developer community you probably should stick to Samsung or a few other manufacturers and avoid Google for the foreseeable future.
Just my thoughts.
Really unbelievable that there are no ROMs due to those issues.
Will sell my Pixel and keep my Nexus 6P
I'm thinking of selling my pixel and getting a oneplus 5, or waiting to see how the modding scene evolves for the razor phone.
Truly disappointed the pixel line didn't follow on from nexus devices.
I will do so.
Got my pixel used and defective, Google will replace it for free so I will be able to sell it as new.
Would it be possible to install substratum and xposed framework?
Thought of getting nexus 6p,but bought the pixel thinking that it would get more development..
now I'm regretting that decision..?
I would of thought there would be possibly some way of reformatting the partition size or even changing partitions completely
acidspider said:
I would of thought there would be possibly some way of reformatting the partition size or even changing partitions completely
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for that ..S-off is needed..but a great idea through
Really funny how things have changed. It wasn't that long ago that if you wanted a phone that was easy to root, and had tons of developers, with tons of ROM options, you got a Nexus. Now that the Pixels are here, it's just the opposite.
The only saving grace is Google will continue supporting the pixel until October 2019 so I'm not going to be stranded with a phone I can't update.
Got the XL as a warranty replacement for my almost 2 year old 6P that had battery dying issues.
I do like the XL, have it rooted with Magisk, just waiting for Pure Nexus. If revo gets Xposed working Oreo, may not go custom rom at all.
Not many things the phone can't do that requires custom
bootloader unlock and custom kernel if required for some tweaks, however
pure android is actually freaking lovely
is any other device on oreo? let alone 8.1 (if you have beta)
y2grae said:
Not many things the phone can't do that requires custom
bootloader unlock and custom kernel if required for some tweaks, however
pure android is actually freaking lovely
is any other device on oreo? let alone 8.1 (if you have beta)
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Quite a few devices are getting both official and unofficial 8.0 updates. As far as 8.1 I'm pretty sure it's still in beta so it's only available for the Google family of devices as there is no way to look into the source of the beta and try to compile it for other phones.
There are more issues than the A/B partition scheme that these phones have:
1) They are extremely expensive so there were not too many people who bought them in the first place
2) There are a lot of people and devs who have sold their Pixels for Pixel 2's
3) Project Treble which sounded like a good idea has actually caused more problems for this phone for custom development, which did not affect any Nexus models. All the kinks related to this need to be worked out too as it is a new issue as of Oreo
You will see some rom action in the foreseeable future though
hardslog said:
There are more issues than the A/B partition scheme that these phones have:
1) They are extremely expensive so there were not too many people who bought them in the first place
2) There are a lot of people and devs who have sold their Pixels for Pixel 2's
3) Project Treble which sounded like a good idea has actually caused more problems for this phone for custom development, which did not affect any Nexus models. All the kinks related to this need to be worked out too as it is a new issue as of Oreo
You will see some rom action in the foreseeable future though
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Can you share a link where I can find the OMNIROM you are actually runningp please ?
Thank you !
vlucchetti said:
Got the XL as a warranty replacement for my almost 2 year old 6P that had battery dying issues.
I do like the XL, have it rooted with Magisk, just waiting for Pure Nexus. If revo gets Xposed working Oreo, may not go custom rom at all.
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How would you rate the Pixel against the Nexus 6P?
Is it worth the upgrade?
I got a broken 6P for 80€ and a broken Pixel for 180€
Both were replaced (Nexus against Nexus, cause it was bought from 3rd party and not Google).
Nexus would sell for 250€, Pixel for 400€
Sui77 said:
How would you rate the Pixel against the Nexus 6P?
Is it worth the upgrade?
I got a broken 6P for 80€ and a broken Pixel for 180€
Both were replaced (Nexus against Nexus, cause it was bought from 3rd party and not Google).
Nexus would sell for 250€, Pixel for 400€
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I miss my 6P, thought it was an awesome phone but the battery issue SOT of 2 hours after 2 years was killing me. Got the XL as a warranty replacement for virtually nothing, so it was a win-win.
Once the custom roms roll out, it will rival or exceed the 6P, I have no doubt.
Good day all,
Thank you for reading my question.
My previous phone was a Nexus 6. On that phone I have OREO. There are multiple devs baking these ROMs.
When I ordered my U11, I searched on XDA for an OREO ROM, but couldn't find any.
Why is this?
Thank you in advance!
Because HTC Sense is not AOSP?
It takes time for HTC to adapt the changes they make to the framework on a new Android Release.
The testers have an oreo build for a few months now..and i is currently going into the RC phase.
It won't take that long anymore.
Thank you for the answer.
I understand that Sense isn't available for OREO.
But, do we need Sense? Is Sense needed for a ROM in our U11? Why isn't there a Dev making an AOSP version for the U11?
Personally, I'm not waiting on Sense or other add-ons. I would be very happy with just an AOSP version
I just dropped the questions out of interest.
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Thank you for the answer.
I understand that Sense isn't available for OREO.
But, do we need Sense? Is Sense needed for a ROM in our U11? Why isn't there a Dev making an AOSP version for the U11?
Personally, I'm not waiting on Sense or other add-ons. I would be very happy with just an AOSP version
I just dropped the questions out of interest.
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There is one AOSP rom available for the U11 for nougat. But even that is still in alpha.
AOSP roms on HTC devices often lack on proper camera support and device specific functions like Edge Sense or Motion Gesture etc won't work...and there are always other little and sometimes bigger things not working here and there.
Don't forget, depending on where in the world you are, it's not just HTC that needs to tweak oreo for the u11. Carriers also need to do some tweaks sometimes (Sprint for example), that ads a large delay because carriers are slow as heck in getting it done.
I understand you OP, i've had a Nexus 5X for two years and already had Android 8 since the beginning of the summer (beta program) and already had 8.1 for a while.
When i switched for the U11 i was kinda surprised it was running 7.1.1 but from what i've heard the OTA is coming Q4 so we'll get it in a few days i guess
When i had the One M8 i loved my AOSP rom but as it's been said, that squeeze thing couldn't work and a few more things probably, i guess we're stuck with Sense, i'm glad it's a good UI not like Samsung's or LG's
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I understand you OP, i've had a Nexus 5X for two years and already had Android 8 since the beginning of the summer (beta program) and already had 8.1 for a while.
When i switched for the U11 i was kinda surprised it was running 7.1.1 but from what i've heard the OTA is coming Q4 so we'll get it in a few days i guess
When i had the One M8 i loved my AOSP rom but as it's been said, that squeeze thing couldn't work and a few more things probably, i guess we're stuck with Sense, i'm glad it's a good UI not like Samsung's or LG's
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ADW2 seems to work well on my U11 though, at least it gives some tweaks that Sense doesen't.
If it is anything like last year with the m9 the update will be just before xmas for dev and end of feb for wwe with major carriers following in march through april.
FWIW, the OREO update came up on my unlocked HTC U11 on 11/29/17. Three things I've noticed since HTC adapted OREO's personalization features to HTC Sense:
1) You cannot change the shape of the icons
2) You cannot change the color of the notification dots
3) All icons downloaded from HTC Themes get reshaped into a cushion silhouette
But all in all, these personalization limits are nothing to get worried about. I'm pleased with the smooth functionality overall.
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FWIW, the OREO update came up on my unlocked HTC U11 on 11/29/17. Three things I've noticed since HTC adapted OREO's personalization features to HTC Sense:
1) You cannot change the shape of the icons
2) You cannot change the color of the notification dots
3) All icons downloaded from HTC Themes get reshaped into a cushion silhouette
But all in all, these personalization limits are nothing to get worried about. I'm pleased with the smooth functionality overall.
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Even themed icons are changed???
6th_Hokage said:
Even themed icons are changed???
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The themed icons get framed in a cushion-shaped silhouette. I tried the Marbles, Los Angeles and Dodge Charger themes. All got reshaped.
Here are the Marbles and Dodge Charger themes on OREO. The icons are framed in a cushion silhouette:
http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-u11/news/
Hey guys, does anyone use the Pixel Launcher on their U11+ ?
Can you maybe post some screenshots, I'm wondering how it looks, how much of a Pixel vibe
does it add. The Settings app, Quick Toggles and Recents apps switcher are the only OS parts
that cannot be changed, but they look pretty stock/Pixel.
I don't really like the Sense launcher, but since you can change the launcher,
using the Pixel could change the whole look of the device towards Google's look.
Thank you.
I use to love the pixel launcher. I then gave Nova launcher a chance. Nova launcher has a companion app to swipe left for Google now plus you can customize it better and more than the pixel launcher. Long story short you can make it look like a pixel launcher. And it's on sale for Christmas. 99 cents the prime version that is.
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Hey guys, does anyone use the Pixel Launcher on their U11+ ?
Can you maybe post some screenshots, I'm wondering how it looks, how much of a Pixel vibe
does it add. The Settings app, Quick Toggles and Recents apps switcher are the only OS parts
that cannot be changed, but they look pretty stock/Pixel.
I don't really like the Sense launcher, but since you can change the launcher,
using the Pixel could change the whole look of the device towards Google's look.
Thank you.
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Using Nova Prime with the Google now companion
Sent from my HTC U11 plus using Tapatalk
andreipaval said:
Hey guys, does anyone use the Pixel Launcher on their U11+ ?
Can you maybe post some screenshots, I'm wondering how it looks, how much of a Pixel vibe
does it add. The Settings app, Quick Toggles and Recents apps switcher are the only OS parts
that cannot be changed, but they look pretty stock/Pixel.
I don't really like the Sense launcher, but since you can change the launcher,
using the Pixel could change the whole look of the device towards Google's look.
Thank you.
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Check out Flick Launcher. It is like a cross between Pixel Launcher and Nova.
I bought the Pro version for $1.99. It is still under development but well impressive to see a customizable Pixel style launcher.
Sense Home is okay. After hours of tweaks I got it where I could live with it.
The choices with Android are why I love it so much.
Lawn chair launcher is pretty sweet too and most importantly, free!
Sent from my HTC U11 plus using Tapatalk
I was using Nova prime and made it look like pixel but due to high battery issue had to remove and stay with sense for now.
I currently have a z fold 3 and am considering a switch to the Pixel 7 pro. I know that there are a lot more built in features in the one ui software but I'm wondering if maybe there is a custom rom or something that is comparable? I feel like pixel tries to stay more minimalist in its approach (which isn't a bad thing) but I would like to know if there is a way for me to add some more customization (theming, additional software features, etc.) to the pixel if I decide to switch? I used to root my phones all the time and then sometime around the galaxy 9 I switched to samsung because I didn't have to root any longer since I could theme and have a bunch of other features right out of the box. I'm not opposed to rooting the pixel if I don't lose out on other features by doing so (i.e. google pay, oem updates, battery life etc)
You have Renovate Ice magisk rom that add a good pack of customization to the stock rom
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I currently have a z fold 3 and am considering a switch to the Pixel 7 pro. I know that there are a lot more built in features in the one ui software but I'm wondering if maybe there is a custom rom or something that is comparable? I feel like pixel tries to stay more minimalist in its approach (which isn't a bad thing) but I would like to know if there is a way for me to add some more customization (theming, additional software features, etc.) to the pixel if I decide to switch? I used to root my phones all the time and then sometime around the galaxy 9 I switched to samsung because I didn't have to root any longer since I could theme and have a bunch of other features right out of the box. I'm not opposed to rooting the pixel if I don't lose out on other features by doing so (i.e. google pay, oem updates, battery life etc)
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you will always lose OTA when rooted, but there is easy way to update every month with full factory image almost like over the air
dbarrett480 said:
I'm not opposed to rooting the pixel if I don't lose out on other features by doing so (i.e. google pay, oem updates, battery life etc)
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If you're rooted, oem updates will likely fail (although some have had success using the "Install to Inactive Slot" method). You'll have to unroot, then update and re-root or update another way if you want to do it while rooted and keep root (e.g. Pixel Flasher).
For Google Pay you'll likely have to install one of the USNF mods to pass Play Integrity.
Root itself has no effect on battery life.
Stock Android on Pixel is great.
I think it boils down to what features on OneUI5 that you use now. What type of customization do you do? Do you use the extra features like edge panels and so on? Do you use Bixby?
I have a Samsung Galaxy s22 plus and I really don't use any of the extra software. To me it is just a waste of resources.
The only thing I miss is the custom mpeg animation on my boot screen and ability to add a photo to the AOD. Those are fun things to add but it is not a big deal. In return I get way better stock wallpaper, better UI animations, a smoother overall experience, Pixel exclusive features. I hate having Facebook and Onedrive that I can't uninstall. I hate all of the extra Samsung apps that I can't uninstall or disable.
But there is a few things I do appreciate in OneUI5.
For me losing a few things to gain much more and a cheaper price was way worth it.
Rooting the phone can offer tons of customization but personally I think it is a pain to maintain and not worth it. YMMV.
vegetaleb said:
You have Renovate Ice magisk rom that add a good pack of customization to the stock rom
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There is no Renovate ICE for the Pixel 7 pro
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There is no Renovate ICE for the Pixel 7 pro
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I understood the one for Pixel 6 is also working on P7P
Personally the only thing I would miss from OneUI is the screen lock, if Renovate Ice can give extra shortcuts in the lock screen then it's perfect
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I understood the one for Pixel 6 is also working on P7P
Personally the only thing I would miss from OneUI is the screen lock, if Renovate Ice can give extra shortcuts in the lock screen then it's perfect
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Understood how? No where in that thread does anyone mention it works on the Pixel 7 Pro.
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Understood how? No where in that thread does anyone mention it works on the Pixel 7 Pro.
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On their telegram
I see what root was about. I had pixel 4a, pixel 5(used), pixel 7 pro I see what the root game is all about. With Samsung phones, I had like the S10 plus us snapdragon Carrier locked, same with note 20 5g, carrier locked. Then when I switched to the US model factory unlocked pixel territory rooting is amazing.
What's the question? Or... Just a statement you wanted to make?
Why is it amazing? What's the benefits?
"Why is it amazing? What's the benefits?"
AdAway.
No ads whatsoever on your phone - apps, web pages, no targeted ads based on your search history. That alone is worth rooting.
Also, you can mod the settings, add theming, etc. (AOSP mods module, for ex). Rooting let's you customize your device & allows for a better overall experience. It can cause issues with secure banking apps sometimes, but there are ways around that (thanks XDA!).
Ducter said:
What's the question? Or... Just a statement you wanted to make?
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It is only his second time doing this. I do think it is a bit odd.
UltimateGamer83 said:
I see what root was about. I had pixel 4a, pixel 5(used), pixel 7 pro I see what the root game is all about. With Samsung phones, I had like the S10 plus us snapdragon Carrier locked, same with note 20 5g, carrier locked. Then when I switched to the US model factory unlocked pixel territory rooting is amazing.
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I agree. Rooting on the pixel has been seamless and most of the benefits are fantastic. Came from samsung, much prefer the pixel experience
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