Safe to take OTA when rooted? - Huawei Mate 9 Questions & Answers

Is it safe to take OTA (B197) if I'm rooted with magisk and got twrp installed? Is it possible at all?

rufik said:
Is it safe to take OTA (B197) if I'm rooted with magisk and got twrp installed? Is it possible at all?
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No.
TWRP in most cases doesn't able to install stock ROMs (OTA and FullOTA). Additionally old TWRP deletes partitions before install, so you can get some functional doesn't work.
If you made some changes in system partition OTA will not install, as it compares and requires previous unchanged version of files to apply new changes. No file - can't install.

OK.
Maybe FullOTA form FF is safe to install using TWRP?

rufik said:
OK.
Maybe FullOTA form FF is safe to install using TWRP?
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No. As I told, TWRP doesn't know how install stock ROMs contain update.app file.

Safe, yes. If it wants to install.
But you'll be bootloader locked and unrooted when finished. So OTA or FullOTA doesn't matter if you want to stay rooted, you'll have to unlock bootloader again and root.

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Applying system update 1.27.401.5 to my rooted HTC U11

I'm using a rooted HTC U11 with the latest TWRP and Magisk. Since yesterday I get a message that tells me to upgrade my HTC U11 to version 1.27.401.5. I can't install the downloaded ota so I need a complete rom. Where can I find that?
Maybe next door
Too much info error... So it's possible to flash an OTA over my rooted stock rom using TWRP?
Since the OTA is already downloaded to /data/data/com.htc.updater/files can I just copy it to the root folder and then flash it with TWRP?
simu_lacrum said:
Too much info error... So it's possible to flash an OTA over my rooted stock rom using TWRP?
Since the OTA is already downloaded to /data/data/com.htc.updater/files can I just copy it to the root folder and then flash it with TWRP?
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No, TWRP cannot handle an OTA completely. You have to reflash stock recovery.
And even if you reflash stock recovery the OTA could fail to apply.
Have you modified your system partition after rooting? Any mods that install to system instead of data?
If you have modified the system partition the OTA won't apply. You have to reset to stock, i.e. by using an RUU
st_voss said:
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Have you modified your system partition after rooting? Any mods that install to system instead of data?
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I'm still on the stock rom with TWRP as recovery. Afaik I didn't use any mods that install to system instead of data.
I just want to install the current version 1.27.401.5. If that's not possible by OTA then a full rom would also be welcome.
simu_lacrum said:
I'm still on the stock rom with TWRP as recovery. Afaik I didn't use any mods that install to system instead of data.
I just want to install the current version 1.27.401.5. If that's not possible by OTA then a full rom would also be welcome.
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Get @LlabTooFeR 's Maximus HD rom, you'll always get the latest updates on an optmized stock rom
simu_lacrum said:
I'm still on the stock rom with TWRP as recovery. Afaik I didn't use any mods that install to system instead of data.
I just want to install the current version 1.27.401.5. If that's not possible by OTA then a full rom would also be welcome.
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Then you might get the OTA applied by
reflashing stock recovery
deinstalling Magisk

Question: If I update to the newest firmware, will I lose root?

Just got a alert to update firmware. Will I lose Root if I Update?
Thanks...
you can't install it if you are rooted, you have to unroot and install stock recovery no twrp for it to work.
it might also lock your bootloader meaning factory reset again to unlock.
jefffisher said:
you can't install it if you are rooted, you have to unroot and install stock recovery no twrp for it to work.
it might also lock your bootloader meaning factory reset again to unlock.
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Not necessarily. I have an FRD-L04, I was running unlocked bootloader with TWRP and Magisk, rooted on B385. Flashed just the stock b360 recovery through fastboot, and then downloaded the full update package in the updater.
When it booted back up after the update, my bootloader had been locked. I uninstalled Magisk once I got back into Android. All seems to be working so far (except for my finicky SD card reader).
Install stock recovery and proceed with update.
You wont lose root
I lost root and got a locked bootloader since the new update (B394)
zimmen said:
I lost root and got a locked bootloader since the new update (B394)
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It was GB update or MBs?
Can root again
shashank1320 said:
It was GB update or MBs?
Can root again
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It was the GB
I downloaded the full package, only way to update for me.
zimmen said:
It was the GB
I downloaded the full package, only way to update for me.
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Oops then it will restore the recovery, lock the bootloader, remove root
shashank1320 said:
Oops then it will restore the recovery, lock the bootloader, remove root
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Yes, but that was the only way to get the update to install.
Not that I loos so much when I unlock it again, it's only apps they i have to install again.
Has anybody tried to flash magisk in the new B394? I get an "Process error" when trying to install/download modules
Update: just be sure to create a folder in internal storage named MagiskManager

Does OTA update lose root??

Hi, I'm very very new about Huawei devices, and I have a question..
I'm on build 8.0.0.120 (C432), and I can update my device to 8.0.0.130 (C432)..
I've rooted my Honor V10 with Magisk and I've TWRP recovery...
If I install this OTA update, I will lose root, or because the system partition on this device is read-only, I can update without lose anythings????
Thanks at all
BoGnY said:
Hi, I'm very very new about Huawei devices, and I have a question..
I'm on build 8.0.0.120 (C432), and I can update my device to 8.0.0.130 (C432)..
I've rooted my Honor V10 with Magisk and I've TWRP recovery...
If I install this OTA update, I will lose root, or because the system partition on this device is read-only, I can update without lose anythings????
Thanks at all
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Magisk has an add-on to survive OTAs, but I really don't know
BoGnY said:
Hi, I'm very very new about Huawei devices, and I have a question..
I'm on build 8.0.0.120 (C432), and I can update my device to 8.0.0.130 (C432)..
I've rooted my Honor V10 with Magisk and I've TWRP recovery...
If I install this OTA update, I will lose root, or because the system partition on this device is read-only, I can update without lose anythings????
Thanks at all
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I would be surprised if you can install an OTA with TWRP recovery.
To successfully apply the OTA you probably have to do something like this
Deinstall Magisk
Flash stock recovery
Apply OTA
Flash TWRP
Install Magisk
st_voss said:
I would be surprised if you can install an OTA with TWRP recovery.
To successfully apply the OTA you probably have to do something like this
Deinstall Magisk
Flash stock recovery
Apply OTA
Flash TWRP
Install Magisk
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Yes. This is the process

Update via OTA when unlocked bootloader/rooted

So I unlocked by Bootloader and Rooted my OP6, the question I have is will the OTA updates be installed without any problems or will I have to install it manually?
Also when I install twrp (I have not installed yet) how will I need to update my phone through OTA?
Sorry if this is a noob question because the last time I rooted and flashed roms the software support was over so I never had any OTA updates.
Thanks
It will download the update but it most probably will download the Full 1.4GB ZIP
Meaning it will install the full rom and not the small update package.
It will install normally to the other slot and after reboot you should be updated.
This should work just fine with TWRP because it updates your other slot within Android, not in recovery.
After update, reboot phone, then reboot to TWRP and install Magisk!
I updated while being rooted and TWRP installed. Just download the update, then reflash twrp and root and everything works fine.
So if u want update your system but don't need TWRP you can just download OTA with system updater and install it.
If you want magisk don't reboot! Open magisk and press install and install to second slot. Then reboot. You will have an updated system with working magisk!
Kollachi said:
So if u want update your system but don't need TWRP you can just download OTA with system updater and install it.
If you want magisk don't reboot! Open magisk and press install and install to second slot. Then reboot. You will have an updated system with working magisk!
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So the only hitch to get an official incremental OTA update, is the root? Unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed doesn't cause any trouble?
If you just remove the root and then check for the update, evrything gonna be fine, am I right?
But how does it work this "slot a" "slot b"? What does it mean? After an update will your OP6 get 2 roms in the same time? The new and the previous? What happen after an update and the reboot? Have you to delete the old rom?
Thx for the patience...
zappomax said:
So the only hitch to get an official incremental OTA update, is the root? Unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed doesn't cause any trouble?
If you just remove the root and then check for the update, evrything gonna be fine, am I right?
But how does it work this "slot a" "slot b"? What does it mean? After an update will your OP6 get 2 roms in the same time? The new and the previous? What happen after an update and the reboot? Have you to delete the old rom?
Thx for the patience...
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I didn't even remove root. I can't explain you how this a and b is working. but what I know is, that every OTA is change the partition. And no u won't have 2 systems.
zappomax said:
So the only hitch to get an official incremental OTA update, is the root? Unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed doesn't cause any trouble?
If you just remove the root and then check for the update, evrything gonna be fine, am I right?
But how does it work this "slot a" "slot b"? What does it mean? After an update will your OP6 get 2 roms in the same time? The new and the previous? What happen after an update and the reboot? Have you to delete the old rom?
Thx for the patience...
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If your current system runs for example on slot "a" the update will be installed on slot "b "...the slot that you currently not using
Nick502 said:
It will download the update but it most probably will download the Full 1.4GB ZIP
Meaning it will install the full rom and not the small update package.
It will install normally to the other slot and after reboot you should be updated.
This should work just fine with TWRP because it updates your other slot within Android, not in recovery.
After update, reboot phone, then reboot to TWRP and install Magisk!
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So if I flash twrp now, then update OOS, only my root will be removed right which can be again flashed by twrp?
Harsh Keswani said:
So if I flash twrp now, then update OOS, only my root will be removed right which can be again flashed by twrp?
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Yes, I'm not sure if you will keep TWRP.
But you can always reinstall TWRP and then reflash Magisk
Nick502 said:
Yes, I'm not sure if you will keep TWRP.
But you can always reinstall TWRP and then reflash Magisk
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Thanks
Nick502 said:
Yes, I'm not sure if you will keep TWRP.
But you can always reinstall TWRP and then reflash Magisk
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One more thing, everytime I update, it's going to download the full ROM?
Harsh Keswani said:
One more thing, everytime I update, it's going to download the full ROM?
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If I'm not wrong, on a rooted device OTA installs a full rom. On a not-rooted phone OTA installs just the incremental update.
I only unlocked the bootloader to prepare for TRWP and root (So no TWRP and root yet) and it tells me it will download full update.
TaranQ said:
I only unlocked the bootloader to prepare for TRWP and root (So no TWRP and root yet) and it tells me it will download full update.
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I guess it recognizes the unlocked bootloader and then it always downloads and installs full update.
Why would you unlock your bootloader and then don't root :laugh:
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pdppdp said:
I guess it recognizes the unlocked bootloader and then it always downloads and installs full update.
Why would you unlock your bootloader and then don't root :laugh:
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Because I was not sure I wanted root again there are always apps that even with Magisk hide won't work.
But just to make sure I prepared by unlocking bootloader so if I decide to go for TWRP and root my data and storage won't get wiped which would mean starting all over again and losing app-data.
So, if I update from a ROM rooted with TWRP, will not the user data be deleted? Should we just root again and install the TWRP?
I had rooted 5.1.5 with TWRP and Magisk. I just downloaded the full package, copied it to phone storage. Then went to system update, update locally, picked the file and it ran the update.
However after reboot and update complete I lost TWRP and root. So I went to fastboot, booted the official TWRP (fastboot boot twrp.img). Then flashed the official TWRP and Magisk for root, rebooted and all was good again.
I'm pretty sure there's an easier way of doing this but this worked for me.
marvel79 said:
I had rooted 5.1.5 with TWRP and Magisk. I just downloaded the full package, copied it to phone storage. Then went to system update, update locally, picked the file and it ran the update.
However after reboot and update complete I lost TWRP and root. So I went to fastboot, booted the official TWRP (fastboot boot twrp.img). Then flashed the official TWRP and Magisk for root, rebooted and all was good again.
I'm pretty sure there's an easier way of doing this but this worked for me.
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In theory, with the Oxygen Updater application you can install the OTA and Magisk in 1 step.
sakun-ice said:
In theory, with the Oxygen Updater application you can install the OTA and Magisk in 1 step.
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Yeah probably but it has a lot of mixed reviews and this takes me 10 minutes more or so oh well. I'll rather do it like this It's not like we get a new update every week
maybe to help you all
me: 5.1.5, unlocked bootloader, unofficial TWRP from thread by wuxianlin, magisk 16.4
my procedure was to change to official twrp which can be done easily by
downloading the twrp installer from official site, put to internal storage
flash twrp official installer
still in recovery, select reboot: recovery
flash magisk
boot system
now download full 5.1.6 signed flashable zip
recovery: flash 5.1.6
reflash recovery
reboot recovery
flash magisk
boot system
now you have rooted 5.1.6 with official twrp and magisk, no wipe needed

Unable to update Honor View 10

Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??
You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk
br54 said:
You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk
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Since when do you need to relock to install updates?
br54 said:
You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk
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freeza said:
Since when do you need to relock to install updates?
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There is no need to relock.
I didnt whe 110 came out and it still updated... rooted with Magisk as well
@any_thing
Check the ROMs/Kernels/Recoveries section, there's a modified stock recovery that allows for updating w/o relocking the Bootloader.*
Once complete, put TWRP back & root, you will not lose any data/apps/etc...... as you would by simply relocking your Bootloader....
* YMMV,this modified recovery may not be compatible w/your model.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho.../recovery-bkl-nocheck-recovery-flash-t3778085
Sent from my HUAWEI BKL-L04 using XDA Labs
Good luck then.... Personally I don't care.. Mine works fine
any_thing said:
Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??
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I have the BKL-L04 model & got an update notice earlier today:
While on stock rooted with TWRP & Magisk,the update downloaded & attempted to install,but,it failed.
So,just flash the stock recovery for your model & take the update w/o relocking your bootloader.
You will not lose any data from switching recoveries,at least on this phone.
(If you want to unroot 1st,that's fine,but,not necessary,flashing the modified stock recovery image unroots your phone anyway.)
After taking the update,flash the TWRP & Magisk (& Magisk Manager App,if it disappeared) as you did previously.
Just posting what worked for me,& in no way are my experiences/usage intended to contradict posts/suggestions from others,especially if they have the exact same model of phone as yours.
Hope this helps. :good:
any_thing said:
Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??
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Just install stock ram disk...
It would automatically remove twrp and root.. And u will b able to install update once updated just reflash twrp ram disk and install magisk zip to get root back..
That's how I did it on c675
(--light--) said:
Just install stock ram disk...
It would automatically remove twrp and root.. And u will b able to install update once updated just reflash twrp ram disk and install magisk zip to get root back..
That's how I did it on c675
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will i lose my data?
any_thing said:
will i lose my data?
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No not at all... Ramdisk is a different partation
I had rooted phone with magisk installed, I received 2 updates like that - automatically lost root privileges, but I didn't receive .161 update (EIS update still not available for me?) any way to get this update?
PS my bootloader is unlocked... do I need lock it to get an update? and how to lock it?

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