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Safe to take OTA when rooted?

Is it safe to take OTA (B197) if I'm rooted with magisk and got twrp installed? Is it possible at all?

rufik said:
Is it safe to take OTA (B197) if I'm rooted with magisk and got twrp installed? Is it possible at all?
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No.
TWRP in most cases doesn't able to install stock ROMs (OTA and FullOTA). Additionally old TWRP deletes partitions before install, so you can get some functional doesn't work.
If you made some changes in system partition OTA will not install, as it compares and requires previous unchanged version of files to apply new changes. No file - can't install.

OK.
Maybe FullOTA form FF is safe to install using TWRP?

rufik said:
OK.
Maybe FullOTA form FF is safe to install using TWRP?
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No. As I told, TWRP doesn't know how install stock ROMs contain update.app file.

Safe, yes. If it wants to install.
But you'll be bootloader locked and unrooted when finished. So OTA or FullOTA doesn't matter if you want to stay rooted, you'll have to unlock bootloader again and root.

Update via OTA when unlocked bootloader/rooted

So I unlocked by Bootloader and Rooted my OP6, the question I have is will the OTA updates be installed without any problems or will I have to install it manually?
Also when I install twrp (I have not installed yet) how will I need to update my phone through OTA?
Sorry if this is a noob question because the last time I rooted and flashed roms the software support was over so I never had any OTA updates.
Thanks

It will download the update but it most probably will download the Full 1.4GB ZIP
Meaning it will install the full rom and not the small update package.
It will install normally to the other slot and after reboot you should be updated.
This should work just fine with TWRP because it updates your other slot within Android, not in recovery.
After update, reboot phone, then reboot to TWRP and install Magisk!

I updated while being rooted and TWRP installed. Just download the update, then reflash twrp and root and everything works fine.

So if u want update your system but don't need TWRP you can just download OTA with system updater and install it.
If you want magisk don't reboot! Open magisk and press install and install to second slot. Then reboot. You will have an updated system with working magisk!

Kollachi said:
So if u want update your system but don't need TWRP you can just download OTA with system updater and install it.
If you want magisk don't reboot! Open magisk and press install and install to second slot. Then reboot. You will have an updated system with working magisk!
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So the only hitch to get an official incremental OTA update, is the root? Unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed doesn't cause any trouble?
If you just remove the root and then check for the update, evrything gonna be fine, am I right?
But how does it work this "slot a" "slot b"? What does it mean? After an update will your OP6 get 2 roms in the same time? The new and the previous? What happen after an update and the reboot? Have you to delete the old rom?
Thx for the patience...

zappomax said:
So the only hitch to get an official incremental OTA update, is the root? Unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed doesn't cause any trouble?
If you just remove the root and then check for the update, evrything gonna be fine, am I right?
But how does it work this "slot a" "slot b"? What does it mean? After an update will your OP6 get 2 roms in the same time? The new and the previous? What happen after an update and the reboot? Have you to delete the old rom?
Thx for the patience...
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I didn't even remove root. I can't explain you how this a and b is working. but what I know is, that every OTA is change the partition. And no u won't have 2 systems.

zappomax said:
So the only hitch to get an official incremental OTA update, is the root? Unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed doesn't cause any trouble?
If you just remove the root and then check for the update, evrything gonna be fine, am I right?
But how does it work this "slot a" "slot b"? What does it mean? After an update will your OP6 get 2 roms in the same time? The new and the previous? What happen after an update and the reboot? Have you to delete the old rom?
Thx for the patience...
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If your current system runs for example on slot "a" the update will be installed on slot "b "...the slot that you currently not using

Nick502 said:
It will download the update but it most probably will download the Full 1.4GB ZIP
Meaning it will install the full rom and not the small update package.
It will install normally to the other slot and after reboot you should be updated.
This should work just fine with TWRP because it updates your other slot within Android, not in recovery.
After update, reboot phone, then reboot to TWRP and install Magisk!
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So if I flash twrp now, then update OOS, only my root will be removed right which can be again flashed by twrp?

Harsh Keswani said:
So if I flash twrp now, then update OOS, only my root will be removed right which can be again flashed by twrp?
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Yes, I'm not sure if you will keep TWRP.
But you can always reinstall TWRP and then reflash Magisk

Nick502 said:
Yes, I'm not sure if you will keep TWRP.
But you can always reinstall TWRP and then reflash Magisk
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Thanks

Nick502 said:
Yes, I'm not sure if you will keep TWRP.
But you can always reinstall TWRP and then reflash Magisk
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One more thing, everytime I update, it's going to download the full ROM?

Harsh Keswani said:
One more thing, everytime I update, it's going to download the full ROM?
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If I'm not wrong, on a rooted device OTA installs a full rom. On a not-rooted phone OTA installs just the incremental update.

I only unlocked the bootloader to prepare for TRWP and root (So no TWRP and root yet) and it tells me it will download full update.

TaranQ said:
I only unlocked the bootloader to prepare for TRWP and root (So no TWRP and root yet) and it tells me it will download full update.
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I guess it recognizes the unlocked bootloader and then it always downloads and installs full update.
Why would you unlock your bootloader and then don't root :laugh:

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pdppdp said:
I guess it recognizes the unlocked bootloader and then it always downloads and installs full update.
Why would you unlock your bootloader and then don't root :laugh:
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Because I was not sure I wanted root again there are always apps that even with Magisk hide won't work.
But just to make sure I prepared by unlocking bootloader so if I decide to go for TWRP and root my data and storage won't get wiped which would mean starting all over again and losing app-data.

So, if I update from a ROM rooted with TWRP, will not the user data be deleted? Should we just root again and install the TWRP?

I had rooted 5.1.5 with TWRP and Magisk. I just downloaded the full package, copied it to phone storage. Then went to system update, update locally, picked the file and it ran the update.
However after reboot and update complete I lost TWRP and root. So I went to fastboot, booted the official TWRP (fastboot boot twrp.img). Then flashed the official TWRP and Magisk for root, rebooted and all was good again.
I'm pretty sure there's an easier way of doing this but this worked for me.

marvel79 said:
I had rooted 5.1.5 with TWRP and Magisk. I just downloaded the full package, copied it to phone storage. Then went to system update, update locally, picked the file and it ran the update.
However after reboot and update complete I lost TWRP and root. So I went to fastboot, booted the official TWRP (fastboot boot twrp.img). Then flashed the official TWRP and Magisk for root, rebooted and all was good again.
I'm pretty sure there's an easier way of doing this but this worked for me.
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In theory, with the Oxygen Updater application you can install the OTA and Magisk in 1 step.

sakun-ice said:
In theory, with the Oxygen Updater application you can install the OTA and Magisk in 1 step.
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Yeah probably but it has a lot of mixed reviews and this takes me 10 minutes more or so oh well. I'll rather do it like this It's not like we get a new update every week

maybe to help you all
me: 5.1.5, unlocked bootloader, unofficial TWRP from thread by wuxianlin, magisk 16.4
my procedure was to change to official twrp which can be done easily by
downloading the twrp installer from official site, put to internal storage
flash twrp official installer
still in recovery, select reboot: recovery
flash magisk
boot system
now download full 5.1.6 signed flashable zip
recovery: flash 5.1.6
reflash recovery
reboot recovery
flash magisk
boot system
now you have rooted 5.1.6 with official twrp and magisk, no wipe needed

OTA and root

guys, i read somewhere that magisk affects only the kernal so here's the step i got to have incremental OTA with root.
1)install TWRP
2)backup the stock kernal
3)install magisk
when there is an update
1)install the stock kernal backed up above
2)install the stock recovery
3)update using incremental OTA
can anyone confirm this?

I was on 5.1.5. Twrp n magisk
Got ota 5.1.6. Installed. Flashed twrp and magisk again. All set
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6000 using Tapatalk

Ajaykumar21066 said:
I was on 5.1.5. Twrp n magisk
Got ota 5.1.6. Installed. Flashed twrp and magisk again. All set
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i am talking about the incremental OTA update. 5.1.6 incremental OTA was of around 230mb whereas the full zip is of 1.4 gb. so i wanna install the incremental update. just wanted to confirm if the above method will work or not.

aneesh12 said:
i am talking about the incremental OTA update. 5.1.6 incremental OTA was of around 230mb whereas the full zip is of 1.4 gb. so i wanna install the incremental update. just wanted to confirm if the above method will work or not.
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Shouldnt make a lot of difference . Just do incremntal . If twrp is missing flash it with magisk again. Simpple
Sent from my ONEPLUS A6000 using Tapatalk

I hav a question.....im rooted on oos 5.1.6 india with magisk(obviously)...i hav recieved the update for oos 5.1.8...so i dont want to download the full rom can i just uninstall magisk and install the small ota package? Or it will detect the unlocked boot loader and show the same message such as root detected or bootloader unlocked??

Aduser345 said:
I hav a question.....im rooted on oos 5.1.6 india with magisk(obviously)...i hav recieved the update for oos 5.1.8...so i dont want to download the full rom can i just uninstall magisk and install the small ota package? Or it will detect the unlocked boot loader and show the same message such as root detected or bootloader unlocked??
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that's what i wanted to know..please reply if anyone does know the solution

Aduser345 said:
I hav a question.....im rooted on oos 5.1.6 india with magisk(obviously)...i hav recieved the update for oos 5.1.8...so i dont want to download the full rom can i just uninstall magisk and install the small ota package? Or it will detect the unlocked boot loader and show the same message such as root detected or bootloader unlocked??
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that's what i wanted to know..please reply if anyone does know the solution

I'm still on stock boot/kernel. I don't need TWRP on my phone. If I need TWRP in the future i'll just use
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fastboot boot twrp-3.2.1-0-enchilada.img
to boot into fastboot.
My procedure for OTA + Magisk Root:
Install OTA (full rom because of root) inside Oxygen OS
Don't reboot!
Open Magisk Manager and go to Settings -> Update Channel -> Beta
Click install and select "Install to Second Slot (After OTA)"
HIt reboot

jzuijlek said:
I'm still on stock boot/kernel. I don't need TWRP on my phone. If I need TWRP in the future i'll just use to boot into fastboot.
My procedure for OTA + Magisk Root:
Install OTA (full rom because of root) inside Oxygen OS
Don't reboot!
Open Magisk Manager and go to Settings -> Update Channel -> Beta
Click install and select "Install to Second Slot (After OTA)"
HIt reboot
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we are talking about installimg incremental update(small sized zip files) :/

Aduser345 said:
I hav a question.....im rooted on oos 5.1.6 india with magisk(obviously)...i hav recieved the update for oos 5.1.8...so i dont want to download the full rom can i just uninstall magisk and install the small ota package? Or it will detect the unlocked boot loader and show the same message such as root detected or bootloader unlocked??
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aneesh12 said:
that's what i wanted to know..please reply if anyone does know the solution
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Why would you guys want to take this risk when the result could potentially be a hard-bricked phone? Incremental updates often replace only parts of critical files, which means that if an OTA patches a modified file thinking it's stock, it may create an unreadable mess. OP is sending you the full package for a reason.

iElvis said:
Why would you guys want to take this risk when the result could potentially be a hard-bricked phone? Incremental updates often replace only parts of critical files, which means that if an OTA patches a modified file thinking it's stock, it may create an unreadable mess. OP is sending you the full package for a reason.
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Yeah okay i dont hav much problem just that i dont hav good internet speed so downloading a 1.4 gb file for every updats is troublesome???

Aduser345 said:
Yeah okay i dont hav much problem just that i dont hav good internet speed so downloading a 1.4 gb file for every updats is troublesome
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That's rough, but personally, I would never take the risk to save some download time.

Unable to update Honor View 10

Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??

You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk

br54 said:
You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk
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Since when do you need to relock to install updates?

br54 said:
You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk
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freeza said:
Since when do you need to relock to install updates?
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There is no need to relock.
I didnt whe 110 came out and it still updated... rooted with Magisk as well

@any_thing
Check the ROMs/Kernels/Recoveries section, there's a modified stock recovery that allows for updating w/o relocking the Bootloader.*
Once complete, put TWRP back & root, you will not lose any data/apps/etc...... as you would by simply relocking your Bootloader....
* YMMV,this modified recovery may not be compatible w/your model.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho.../recovery-bkl-nocheck-recovery-flash-t3778085
Sent from my HUAWEI BKL-L04 using XDA Labs

Good luck then.... Personally I don't care.. Mine works fine

any_thing said:
Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??
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I have the BKL-L04 model & got an update notice earlier today:
While on stock rooted with TWRP & Magisk,the update downloaded & attempted to install,but,it failed.
So,just flash the stock recovery for your model & take the update w/o relocking your bootloader.
You will not lose any data from switching recoveries,at least on this phone.
(If you want to unroot 1st,that's fine,but,not necessary,flashing the modified stock recovery image unroots your phone anyway.)
After taking the update,flash the TWRP & Magisk (& Magisk Manager App,if it disappeared) as you did previously.
Just posting what worked for me,& in no way are my experiences/usage intended to contradict posts/suggestions from others,especially if they have the exact same model of phone as yours.
Hope this helps. :good:

any_thing said:
Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??
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Just install stock ram disk...
It would automatically remove twrp and root.. And u will b able to install update once updated just reflash twrp ram disk and install magisk zip to get root back..
That's how I did it on c675

(--light--) said:
Just install stock ram disk...
It would automatically remove twrp and root.. And u will b able to install update once updated just reflash twrp ram disk and install magisk zip to get root back..
That's how I did it on c675
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will i lose my data?

any_thing said:
will i lose my data?
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No not at all... Ramdisk is a different partation

I had rooted phone with magisk installed, I received 2 updates like that - automatically lost root privileges, but I didn't receive .161 update (EIS update still not available for me?) any way to get this update?
PS my bootloader is unlocked... do I need lock it to get an update? and how to lock it?

removing twrp through system update is it possible?

I unlocked my bootloader installed twrp and magisk, and i did not like it so I uninstalled magisk wiped and now I would like to remove twrp. is it possible that if and when android 11 is released it will remove twrp and relock the bootloader? Im on the T-mobile version.

Yes, flashing your current OOS full OTA zip via system update on your phone will remove it.
Flashing 11 when it comes out will do the same.

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@soka said:
Yes, flashing your current OOS full OTA zip via system update on your phone will remove it.
Flashing 11 when it comes out will do the same.
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My guy Thank You very much for the response and the answer I needed be safe and add me if you like

You welcome buddy,