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[Q] A way to root but stay stock so can keep getting OTA s?

(noob) Question: Is there a way to root my OnePlus and keep stock recovery (for now at least) so I can just get the OTA updates? I want to have root so I can use Xposed and LMT but still stay stock. Thanks

scott62185 said:
(noob) Question: Is there a way to root my OnePlus and keep stock recovery (for now at least) so I can just get the OTA updates? I want to have root so I can use Xposed and LMT but still stay stock. Thanks
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yep, just install the drivers, unlock the bootloader, install a recovery (i used twrp), then flash supersu. go over to the android development folder and there are toolkits there. im running stock rooted right now.

you dont have to unlock the bootloader or flash a recovery to root. just run "fastboot boot recovery.img" itll boot the alternative recovery, and you can flash the super user zip from there. it will only boot twrp or cwm but not flash it to the device and will not replace the stock recovery.
unlocking the bootloader just allows you to write to the boot partition and boot different recoveries and kernels from the device. it does set off a tamper flag which could void your warranty. but unlocking is not required for modifying the system partition which is what you are doing when you root.

scott62185 said:
(noob) Question: Is there a way to root my OnePlus and keep stock recovery (for now at least) so I can just get the OTA updates? I want to have root so I can use Xposed and LMT but still stay stock. Thanks
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You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp

inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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Oh wow, I didn't know that. Great! Thanks

inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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That won't let you keep root, though it's easy to flash SuperSU from TWRP after every OTA.
A solution to OP's problem could be SuperSU Pro which lets you keep root even after OTA updates. I haven't tested it yet but the option is there.

CrashTestDroid said:
That won't let you keep root, though it's easy to flash SuperSU from TWRP after every OTA.
A solution to OP's problem could be SuperSU Pro which lets you keep root even after OTA updates. I haven't tested it yet but the option is there.
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I unlocked my device, then booted into twrp via adb, then flashed supersu but i have no root. the app is installed but i cannot grand titanium backup for example root rights. so the root process did not worked but why? tried it severall times and downloaded everything from scratch sever times. no chance. help me pls..

blax123 said:
I unlocked my device, then booted into twrp via adb, then flashed supersu but i have no root. the app is installed but i cannot grand titanium backup for example root rights. so the root process did not worked but why? tried it severall times and downloaded everything from scratch sever times. no chance. help me pls..
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open the SuperSU app, see if it complains about missing busybox or anything

CrashTestDroid said:
open the SuperSU app, see if it complains about missing busybox or anything
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How do I install busybox?
Sent from my GT-N8010 using Tapatalk

Nevermind, I found the solution. I had to disable a Option in SuperSU settings because the CM comes not rooted from out of the box
Sent from my Carbonized Nexus 4

inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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If I do this, will I lose root upon OTA?

sharp2G said:
If I do this, will I lose root upon OTA?
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No if you have supersu pro installed and have selected the setting to keep root after ota

Will towelroot work on this?

Quinnaay said:
Will towelroot work on this?
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im not sure people have really tried. youre welcome to give it a shot as it says its possibly compatible with everything. but theres already a root method that doesnt require bootloader unlocking and installs supersu which is most peoples favorite root manager.

Towelroot is incredibly simple I get a little nervous otherwise.. Is there a tutorial on the easy alternative, I only want titanium backup to restore my apps from s4 (considering I can do that)

inffy said:
No if you have supersu pro installed and have selected the setting to keep root after ota
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Where is the option to "keep root after OTA" in SU?

I managed to boot the twrp recovery on 4.4.2..but updated to 4.4.4 33R and now it says SU binaries not installed...also cant boot recovery on fastboot as it says need to unlock the bootloader?
Why did update prevent this now?

tofuboi01 said:
I managed to boot the twrp recovery on 4.4.2..but updated to 4.4.4 33R and now it says SU binaries not installed...also cant boot recovery on fastboot as it says need to unlock the bootloader?
Why did update prevent this now?
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Did you untick the option to update CM recovery during your update?

I didnt untick it no, but i never flashed the custom recovery in the first place as i just booted it up from fastboot on 25R, on 33R however its been disabled and requires unlocked bootloader.

inffy said:
You can install OTA updates even with a TWRP installed. You just have to untick the CM Recory option from Settings -> Developer Settings -> CM Recovery
What that does it tells the OTA update not to update your recovery when the option is unticked. If you leave the tick on, then every OTA will relock your bootloader and install CM recovery.
But all in all, OTAs work fine with root + twrp
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@inffy,
Hi,
I unlocked bootloader before installing 22R and updated 25, 30, 33 & 38R with OTA from 'System updates' menu. After 38R i flashed TWRP recovery and rooted my phone without unlocking the phone again & its working fine. Perhaps, the we don't need to unlock bootloader again once it unlocked. Can anyone confirm it??

Unable to update from 5.0 to 5.0.1 on stock

I am on stock lollipop 5.0 but flashed 4.4.2 radio on it using fastboot few weeks ago and locked the boot loader back.
I got 5.0.1 update and it downloads ,reboots and starts to install and hangs with a red icon halfway through the install.
Anybody know what I will need to do to update without losing any data or unlocking boot loader?

stivelio said:
I am on stock lollipop 5.0 but flashed 4.4.2 radio on it using fastboot few weeks ago and locked the boot loader back.
I got 5.0.1 update and it downloads ,reboots and starts to install and hangs with a red icon halfway through the install.
Anybody know what I will need to do to update without losing any data or unlocking boot loader?
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You can`t do anything if you don`t unlock the bootloader and flash the 5.0 radio or flash the 5.0.1 factory image, you can backup your apps and data with Helium.

gee2012 said:
You can`t do anything if you don`t unlock the bootloader and flash the 5.0 radio or flash the 5.0.1 factory image, you can backup your apps and data with Helium.
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That will be last resort but I was just trying to find out why the update doesn't work for me even though I'm on stock 5.0

stivelio said:
That will be last resort but I was just trying to find out why the update doesn't work for me even though I'm on stock 5.0
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Your radio is not 5.0 compatible (stock), everythinhg has to be 100% stock and not rooted to be able to install the OTA

And if I unlock bootloader I will lose my data. Right?

stivelio said:
And if I unlock bootloader I will lose my data. Right?
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Yup, there is no other way though. Backup everything you can before you unlock.
-Edit- You could try to root the device with CF Auto Root, install Bootunlocker from PLay and unlock the Bootloader without loosing data. Then unroot from the superSU app and flash the 5.0. radio, wipe caches in recovery or fastboot erase cache and see if the OTA can be installed
by sideloading it in stock recovery, link to the OTA http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217

gee2012 said:
Yup, there is no other way though. Backup everything you can before you unlock.
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Ah ok. I guess I will wait until 5.1 or something to do this when there are major updates

Recevied an update with rooted phone, is it safe to update ?

I'm currently on NXT-29C185B190 and I received update with NXT-29C185B1200, my phone is unlocked and rooted, I have flash fire installed and it recognized that update was downloaded.
My question is flash fire have big red huawei device warning, saying Huawei device is very easy to hard brick (also my mate 8 is my first locked bootloader phone) so is it safe to use flash fire ? or install update throught huawei system without losing root ?

MegaMedo said:
I received update with NXT-29C185B1200
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Is this an EMUI update through the standard update menu in settings - updater?
The version seems a bit odd to me, the last update for C185 was B320, I wouldn't expect an official update to jump as high as that. Mind uploading a screenshot?
Anyway, as for actually updating, as long as you are running stock recovery (not TWRP) then it shouldn't be an issue. Just know that you WILL lose root after updating. And I'd strongly suggest making a data backup before the update.

MuPp3t33r said:
Is this an EMUI update through the standard update menu in settings - updater?
The version seems a bit odd to me, the last update for C185 was B320, I wouldn't expect an official update to jump as high as that. Mind uploading a screenshot?
Anyway, as for actually updating, as long as you are running stock recovery (not TWRP) then it shouldn't be an issue. Just know that you WILL lose root after updating. And I'd strongly suggest making a data backup before the update.
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Thanks for the help, I tried to user flash fire to keep my root but it failed to update, now I really think rooting huawei phone is more trouble than it worth as for what you said is version is typo
I'm currently on B190 and I got update to B200.
and yes the update is standard update from system updater
I have twrp installed so that means I can't update at all ?

Plz i want to know how to return to the normal situation after root and unlock bootloader in order to receibe update without problem

Prof1977 said:
Plz i want to know how to return to the normal situation after root and unlock bootloader in order to receibe update without problem
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Well if you unlocked bootlader and rooted, it safe to say that you have TWRP installed, fire up SRKToolHuawei choose (2)install recovery then install stock recovery after that it reboots and then update using system updater from huawei.
PS: You will lose your root access and new to install TWRP then root again.

MegaMedo said:
Well if you unlocked bootlader and rooted, it safe to say that you have TWRP installed, fire up SRKToolHuawei choose (2)install recovery then install stock recovery after that it reboots and then update using system updater from huawei.
PS: You will lose your root access and new to install TWRP then root again.
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Thinks a lot were can fond recovery?sorry

Prof1977 said:
Thinks a lot were can fond recovery?sorry
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download SRKToolHuawei-Lod-Chong-V2.0-20161002 or whatever version you used to unlock bootloader and choose option 2 (Install recevory) and that it.

Thinks very much

Update via OTA when unlocked bootloader/rooted

So I unlocked by Bootloader and Rooted my OP6, the question I have is will the OTA updates be installed without any problems or will I have to install it manually?
Also when I install twrp (I have not installed yet) how will I need to update my phone through OTA?
Sorry if this is a noob question because the last time I rooted and flashed roms the software support was over so I never had any OTA updates.
Thanks

It will download the update but it most probably will download the Full 1.4GB ZIP
Meaning it will install the full rom and not the small update package.
It will install normally to the other slot and after reboot you should be updated.
This should work just fine with TWRP because it updates your other slot within Android, not in recovery.
After update, reboot phone, then reboot to TWRP and install Magisk!

I updated while being rooted and TWRP installed. Just download the update, then reflash twrp and root and everything works fine.

So if u want update your system but don't need TWRP you can just download OTA with system updater and install it.
If you want magisk don't reboot! Open magisk and press install and install to second slot. Then reboot. You will have an updated system with working magisk!

Kollachi said:
So if u want update your system but don't need TWRP you can just download OTA with system updater and install it.
If you want magisk don't reboot! Open magisk and press install and install to second slot. Then reboot. You will have an updated system with working magisk!
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So the only hitch to get an official incremental OTA update, is the root? Unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed doesn't cause any trouble?
If you just remove the root and then check for the update, evrything gonna be fine, am I right?
But how does it work this "slot a" "slot b"? What does it mean? After an update will your OP6 get 2 roms in the same time? The new and the previous? What happen after an update and the reboot? Have you to delete the old rom?
Thx for the patience...

zappomax said:
So the only hitch to get an official incremental OTA update, is the root? Unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed doesn't cause any trouble?
If you just remove the root and then check for the update, evrything gonna be fine, am I right?
But how does it work this "slot a" "slot b"? What does it mean? After an update will your OP6 get 2 roms in the same time? The new and the previous? What happen after an update and the reboot? Have you to delete the old rom?
Thx for the patience...
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I didn't even remove root. I can't explain you how this a and b is working. but what I know is, that every OTA is change the partition. And no u won't have 2 systems.

zappomax said:
So the only hitch to get an official incremental OTA update, is the root? Unlocked bootloader and TWRP installed doesn't cause any trouble?
If you just remove the root and then check for the update, evrything gonna be fine, am I right?
But how does it work this "slot a" "slot b"? What does it mean? After an update will your OP6 get 2 roms in the same time? The new and the previous? What happen after an update and the reboot? Have you to delete the old rom?
Thx for the patience...
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If your current system runs for example on slot "a" the update will be installed on slot "b "...the slot that you currently not using

Nick502 said:
It will download the update but it most probably will download the Full 1.4GB ZIP
Meaning it will install the full rom and not the small update package.
It will install normally to the other slot and after reboot you should be updated.
This should work just fine with TWRP because it updates your other slot within Android, not in recovery.
After update, reboot phone, then reboot to TWRP and install Magisk!
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So if I flash twrp now, then update OOS, only my root will be removed right which can be again flashed by twrp?

Harsh Keswani said:
So if I flash twrp now, then update OOS, only my root will be removed right which can be again flashed by twrp?
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Yes, I'm not sure if you will keep TWRP.
But you can always reinstall TWRP and then reflash Magisk

Nick502 said:
Yes, I'm not sure if you will keep TWRP.
But you can always reinstall TWRP and then reflash Magisk
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Thanks

Nick502 said:
Yes, I'm not sure if you will keep TWRP.
But you can always reinstall TWRP and then reflash Magisk
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One more thing, everytime I update, it's going to download the full ROM?

Harsh Keswani said:
One more thing, everytime I update, it's going to download the full ROM?
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If I'm not wrong, on a rooted device OTA installs a full rom. On a not-rooted phone OTA installs just the incremental update.

I only unlocked the bootloader to prepare for TRWP and root (So no TWRP and root yet) and it tells me it will download full update.

TaranQ said:
I only unlocked the bootloader to prepare for TRWP and root (So no TWRP and root yet) and it tells me it will download full update.
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I guess it recognizes the unlocked bootloader and then it always downloads and installs full update.
Why would you unlock your bootloader and then don't root :laugh:

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pdppdp said:
I guess it recognizes the unlocked bootloader and then it always downloads and installs full update.
Why would you unlock your bootloader and then don't root :laugh:
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Because I was not sure I wanted root again there are always apps that even with Magisk hide won't work.
But just to make sure I prepared by unlocking bootloader so if I decide to go for TWRP and root my data and storage won't get wiped which would mean starting all over again and losing app-data.

So, if I update from a ROM rooted with TWRP, will not the user data be deleted? Should we just root again and install the TWRP?

I had rooted 5.1.5 with TWRP and Magisk. I just downloaded the full package, copied it to phone storage. Then went to system update, update locally, picked the file and it ran the update.
However after reboot and update complete I lost TWRP and root. So I went to fastboot, booted the official TWRP (fastboot boot twrp.img). Then flashed the official TWRP and Magisk for root, rebooted and all was good again.
I'm pretty sure there's an easier way of doing this but this worked for me.

marvel79 said:
I had rooted 5.1.5 with TWRP and Magisk. I just downloaded the full package, copied it to phone storage. Then went to system update, update locally, picked the file and it ran the update.
However after reboot and update complete I lost TWRP and root. So I went to fastboot, booted the official TWRP (fastboot boot twrp.img). Then flashed the official TWRP and Magisk for root, rebooted and all was good again.
I'm pretty sure there's an easier way of doing this but this worked for me.
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In theory, with the Oxygen Updater application you can install the OTA and Magisk in 1 step.

sakun-ice said:
In theory, with the Oxygen Updater application you can install the OTA and Magisk in 1 step.
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Yeah probably but it has a lot of mixed reviews and this takes me 10 minutes more or so oh well. I'll rather do it like this It's not like we get a new update every week

maybe to help you all
me: 5.1.5, unlocked bootloader, unofficial TWRP from thread by wuxianlin, magisk 16.4
my procedure was to change to official twrp which can be done easily by
downloading the twrp installer from official site, put to internal storage
flash twrp official installer
still in recovery, select reboot: recovery
flash magisk
boot system
now download full 5.1.6 signed flashable zip
recovery: flash 5.1.6
reflash recovery
reboot recovery
flash magisk
boot system
now you have rooted 5.1.6 with official twrp and magisk, no wipe needed

Unable to update Honor View 10

Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??

You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk

br54 said:
You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk
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Since when do you need to relock to install updates?

br54 said:
You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk
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freeza said:
Since when do you need to relock to install updates?
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There is no need to relock.
I didnt whe 110 came out and it still updated... rooted with Magisk as well

@any_thing
Check the ROMs/Kernels/Recoveries section, there's a modified stock recovery that allows for updating w/o relocking the Bootloader.*
Once complete, put TWRP back & root, you will not lose any data/apps/etc...... as you would by simply relocking your Bootloader....
* YMMV,this modified recovery may not be compatible w/your model.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho.../recovery-bkl-nocheck-recovery-flash-t3778085
Sent from my HUAWEI BKL-L04 using XDA Labs

Good luck then.... Personally I don't care.. Mine works fine

any_thing said:
Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??
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I have the BKL-L04 model & got an update notice earlier today:
While on stock rooted with TWRP & Magisk,the update downloaded & attempted to install,but,it failed.
So,just flash the stock recovery for your model & take the update w/o relocking your bootloader.
You will not lose any data from switching recoveries,at least on this phone.
(If you want to unroot 1st,that's fine,but,not necessary,flashing the modified stock recovery image unroots your phone anyway.)
After taking the update,flash the TWRP & Magisk (& Magisk Manager App,if it disappeared) as you did previously.
Just posting what worked for me,& in no way are my experiences/usage intended to contradict posts/suggestions from others,especially if they have the exact same model of phone as yours.
Hope this helps. :good:

any_thing said:
Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??
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Just install stock ram disk...
It would automatically remove twrp and root.. And u will b able to install update once updated just reflash twrp ram disk and install magisk zip to get root back..
That's how I did it on c675

(--light--) said:
Just install stock ram disk...
It would automatically remove twrp and root.. And u will b able to install update once updated just reflash twrp ram disk and install magisk zip to get root back..
That's how I did it on c675
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will i lose my data?

any_thing said:
will i lose my data?
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No not at all... Ramdisk is a different partation

I had rooted phone with magisk installed, I received 2 updates like that - automatically lost root privileges, but I didn't receive .161 update (EIS update still not available for me?) any way to get this update?
PS my bootloader is unlocked... do I need lock it to get an update? and how to lock it?