Recevied an update with rooted phone, is it safe to update ? - Mate 8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm currently on NXT-29C185B190 and I received update with NXT-29C185B1200, my phone is unlocked and rooted, I have flash fire installed and it recognized that update was downloaded.
My question is flash fire have big red huawei device warning, saying Huawei device is very easy to hard brick (also my mate 8 is my first locked bootloader phone) so is it safe to use flash fire ? or install update throught huawei system without losing root ?

MegaMedo said:
I received update with NXT-29C185B1200
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Is this an EMUI update through the standard update menu in settings - updater?
The version seems a bit odd to me, the last update for C185 was B320, I wouldn't expect an official update to jump as high as that. Mind uploading a screenshot?
Anyway, as for actually updating, as long as you are running stock recovery (not TWRP) then it shouldn't be an issue. Just know that you WILL lose root after updating. And I'd strongly suggest making a data backup before the update.

MuPp3t33r said:
Is this an EMUI update through the standard update menu in settings - updater?
The version seems a bit odd to me, the last update for C185 was B320, I wouldn't expect an official update to jump as high as that. Mind uploading a screenshot?
Anyway, as for actually updating, as long as you are running stock recovery (not TWRP) then it shouldn't be an issue. Just know that you WILL lose root after updating. And I'd strongly suggest making a data backup before the update.
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Thanks for the help, I tried to user flash fire to keep my root but it failed to update, now I really think rooting huawei phone is more trouble than it worth as for what you said is version is typo
I'm currently on B190 and I got update to B200.
and yes the update is standard update from system updater
I have twrp installed so that means I can't update at all ?

Plz i want to know how to return to the normal situation after root and unlock bootloader in order to receibe update without problem

Prof1977 said:
Plz i want to know how to return to the normal situation after root and unlock bootloader in order to receibe update without problem
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Well if you unlocked bootlader and rooted, it safe to say that you have TWRP installed, fire up SRKToolHuawei choose (2)install recovery then install stock recovery after that it reboots and then update using system updater from huawei.
PS: You will lose your root access and new to install TWRP then root again.

MegaMedo said:
Well if you unlocked bootlader and rooted, it safe to say that you have TWRP installed, fire up SRKToolHuawei choose (2)install recovery then install stock recovery after that it reboots and then update using system updater from huawei.
PS: You will lose your root access and new to install TWRP then root again.
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Thinks a lot were can fond recovery?sorry

Prof1977 said:
Thinks a lot were can fond recovery?sorry
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download SRKToolHuawei-Lod-Chong-V2.0-20161002 or whatever version you used to unlock bootloader and choose option 2 (Install recevory) and that it.

Thinks very much

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[Q] Will I keep root after OTA?

I just got my Shield Tablet and rooted it. I keep getting two OTA notifications, one says ROM Update the other says Tegra Update. Will I keep root of I do the OTA updates?
I'd like to get a recovery added, but it seems that all the recoveries are incomplete. Is there a method to install recovery without a separate computer?
DFA1 said:
I just got my Shield Tablet and rooted it. I keep getting two OTA notifications, one says ROM Update the other says Tegra Update. Will I keep root of I do the OTA updates?
I'd like to get a recovery added, but it seems that all the recoveries are incomplete. Is there a method to install recovery without a separate computer?
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You can try the paid version of SuperSU to preserve root or the THT Rootkeeper (the other big root keeper doesn't work past 4.2) If you update the device to the official OTA, you will need a PC to reflash the recovery but you will not need to unlock the bootloader again.
NapalmDawn said:
You can try the paid version of SuperSU to preserve root or the THT Rootkeeper (the other big root keeper doesn't work past 4.2) If you update the device to the official OTA, you will need a PC to reflash the recovery but you will not need to unlock the bootloader again.
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yup, lost root but it's okay, lollipop was awful so unlocked, reflashed previous ota, rerooted. Thanks

update with a rooted Mate 8

I am on rooted stock B331 and I just received an update to B356 (492 MB). If I acceot the OTA will the bootloader get locked? I know I will most likely loose root and twrp. I'd like to updated but not get locked again. Any advice?
Or should I flash the image file in TWRP along with insecure boot?
If anybody has gone this route please advice. Thanks
huh? thats new! here i thought that once u unlock bootloader and root u dont receive ota updates anymore! how is that possible?!
in any case, whats the big deal about bootloader getting locked? u just unlock it again using your code via fastboot, no problem then flash twrp and supersu, done!
Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
jbmc83 said:
huh? thats new! here i thought that once u unlock bootloader and root u dont receive ota updates anymore! how is that possible?!
in any case, whats the big deal about bootloader getting locked? u just unlock it again using your code via fastboot, no problem then flash twrp and supersu, done!
Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10
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Yeah, I know it is wierd. My bootloader is unlocked, I'm rooted and have twrp installed and received the B356 OTA this morning.
I was hopping to dirty flash so I don't have to go through all the setup process again
true, unlocking BL again would mean that your phone would be reset...
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You can still do OTA'S with an unlocked bootloader. You should be able to OTA but it may remove root or fail in the process because of root. I always recommend backing up the stock rom in TWRP so you can always go back to it to take an OTA. Fastboot flash the stock rom you're on and the stock recovery then boot up and take the OTA then fastboot flash twrp again.
I have also received the notification for b357 and I am on stock rooted b356...sounds fishy, I am not updating
malekowsky said:
I have also received the notification for b357 and I am on stock rooted b356...sounds fishy, I am not updating
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I'd love it if anybody could make a flashable zip rooted B356 or 357 rom to be safe.

Unlock/Root/TWRP OTA updates?

I've only had two phones prior to this but I have always unlocked the boot loader / rooted the device / installed a custom recovery / installed custom ROMS.
I believe with my MOTO X 1st gen this disabled the OTA updates.
Is that the case with the Honor 8? I'm wondering if it is worth it to install TWRP at this point as there seems to be so little in the way of kernels and ROMS.
Would I still be able to use SU or Xposed modules without Root?
What is the best move with this phone?
I have unlocked my bootloader as well as rooted my Honor 8. The only way to get SU and Xposed is by doing both of these procedures(root involves getting TWRP).
As for any Xposed modules, I tried amplify+greenify but instead of getting better battery life, my standby time decreased significantly. I am not sure why, but for some reason my Cell standby was showing to be eating a ton of my battery. Another big problem was that the dialer app would not let me call anyone, it kept crashing whenever I tried to. Both problems were fixed after I managed to get amplify+greenify uninstalled. Currently I am just running YouTube AdAway and MinMinGuard which seem to work fine.
So at this point, is it worth unlocking bootleader, installing TWRP, and rooting your phone? Well if there are certain Xposed modules that you really want then sure, and if there are certain apps you like that require root, then yes go ahead and root your phone. Note that if you try any OTA updates, you will have to remove TWRP as having your phone automatically restart and try to install the update wont work.
Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
pairustwo said:
Imagine that the Honor 8 receives an update to say, Nougat, what is the pathway to update for someone who has rooted their phone. Will the OTA be able to be flashed if a .zip is provided here? Would we need to flash an entirely new ROM?
This is what I faced with my MOTO X. When Marshmallow came out there was talk... but no one was working on the at phone any longer so was never able to update.
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It doesnt matter whether or not your phone is rooted. You will get updates the same way, through OTA. Of course you can find .zip files to flash(although personally I am struggling to get the latest update flashed through TWRP).
The real question is for how long will we be receiving updates? Nougat is pretty much guaranteed with the new EMUI update. Huawei/Honor has promised up to 2 years of updates from what I have heard, but who knows what that actually means. They have also have a "partnership" with XDA, and the phone is decently popular so I am sure there will be a few roms, just not as many as say a OP3.
Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
pairustwo said:
Why are people trying to flash via TWRP if the OTA updates still work after rooting and unlocking the boot loader?
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Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
Rakeen70210 said:
Okay so I just figured it out, but for the OTA update to work after rooting and having a non-stock recovery, you need to go to Settings->Updater->Menu(located on the bottom)->Download latest full package.
The full package is ~1.6GB and the regular update is ~280mb. The full package will work even if you have TWRP installed. But if you want the regular 280mb update, you need to get rid of TWRP and go back to a stock recovery.
Of course you will need to reinstall TWRP and root your phone again after doing this update.
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I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
Nas42O said:
I see the full package but I cant click on this, nothing is happened when I click on this.
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I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
Rakeen70210 said:
I am not sure what you mean. Do you mean you can see the text "Download latest full package" but it is greyed out? If so please check to see if you arent currently at the latest version. If there is another problem, you might want to try to find a .zip of the full package and flash it that way.
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Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
Nas42O said:
Yes , not greyed , but red color , and cant click on this .
I downloaded a full update of B31 about 1.77giga , just copy to the phone and flash it in twrp ?
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The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
Rakeen70210 said:
The exact latest update that I currently have is FRD-L04C567B150. I am not sure where you got your update but I suggest you just flash back to a complete stock image and try to update again from there.
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its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
Nas42O said:
its normal , you live in India no ?
i'm live in European country , so update are different .. Last update for us is FRD-L04C432B130
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No I am in the US. I am not sure about the EU version, but yes if you can find a .zip update file just put it on your phone and go into TWRP to install it. Might wanna make a backup too and wipe cache too just in case.
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
Palindrom87 said:
So if i download the full package in update and install it, bootloader will still be open? No full wipe? And later i only need to install twrp and root the phone again?
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Updating or wiping your phone does not lock the Bootloader. The only way to lock the Bootloader again is by doing it manually yourself.
Yes after doing a full update you will need to reinstall TWRP as it will be replaced with the stock recovery and then re-root your phone again.
Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
pairustwo said:
Rakeen70210, you sound really confident about doing full updates after rooting. Will these full updates also replace the kernel?
palendrome87 and NAS420 could you guys report back with any success or errors you have flashing full updates?
Where can one download full updates for Honor 8?
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Seeing as how the full update package was ~1.65GB in size, I think its ok to assume that it replaces everything with the stock Honor 8 image. So yes it will replace the kernel too.
For downloading full updates, the only way I got mine was an OTA directly from the phone itself. Look at my previous comments to see how I got this update. If for some reason you cant update, check if your model is ready for an update. If it is and you cant update, try to flash back to a stock image. You should be able to find one on this site or anywhere else.
Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
Nas42O said:
Flash stock recovery will lock boot loader ?
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No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
Rakeen70210 said:
No, the only way to lock the bootloader is to manually lock it yourself using a similar operation to unlocking it.
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I thought the same thing, but after taking the full OTA update my bootloader was locked again. If you want to update I would suggest first making a full backup to the external SD card in TWRP.
Then , its better to download à full update ( update.zip) ,copy to root of the phone , reboot in twrp and flash it ? Anyone already did it ?

Question: If I update to the newest firmware, will I lose root?

Just got a alert to update firmware. Will I lose Root if I Update?
Thanks...
you can't install it if you are rooted, you have to unroot and install stock recovery no twrp for it to work.
it might also lock your bootloader meaning factory reset again to unlock.
jefffisher said:
you can't install it if you are rooted, you have to unroot and install stock recovery no twrp for it to work.
it might also lock your bootloader meaning factory reset again to unlock.
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Not necessarily. I have an FRD-L04, I was running unlocked bootloader with TWRP and Magisk, rooted on B385. Flashed just the stock b360 recovery through fastboot, and then downloaded the full update package in the updater.
When it booted back up after the update, my bootloader had been locked. I uninstalled Magisk once I got back into Android. All seems to be working so far (except for my finicky SD card reader).
Install stock recovery and proceed with update.
You wont lose root
I lost root and got a locked bootloader since the new update (B394)
zimmen said:
I lost root and got a locked bootloader since the new update (B394)
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It was GB update or MBs?
Can root again
shashank1320 said:
It was GB update or MBs?
Can root again
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It was the GB
I downloaded the full package, only way to update for me.
zimmen said:
It was the GB
I downloaded the full package, only way to update for me.
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Oops then it will restore the recovery, lock the bootloader, remove root
shashank1320 said:
Oops then it will restore the recovery, lock the bootloader, remove root
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Yes, but that was the only way to get the update to install.
Not that I loos so much when I unlock it again, it's only apps they i have to install again.
Has anybody tried to flash magisk in the new B394? I get an "Process error" when trying to install/download modules
Update: just be sure to create a folder in internal storage named MagiskManager

Unable to update Honor View 10

Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??
You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk
br54 said:
You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk
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Since when do you need to relock to install updates?
br54 said:
You have to remove majisk
Relock boot
Then you will receive official update
Then unlock and reinstall majisk
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freeza said:
Since when do you need to relock to install updates?
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There is no need to relock.
I didnt whe 110 came out and it still updated... rooted with Magisk as well
@any_thing
Check the ROMs/Kernels/Recoveries section, there's a modified stock recovery that allows for updating w/o relocking the Bootloader.*
Once complete, put TWRP back & root, you will not lose any data/apps/etc...... as you would by simply relocking your Bootloader....
* YMMV,this modified recovery may not be compatible w/your model.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ho.../recovery-bkl-nocheck-recovery-flash-t3778085
Sent from my HUAWEI BKL-L04 using XDA Labs
Good luck then.... Personally I don't care.. Mine works fine
any_thing said:
Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??
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I have the BKL-L04 model & got an update notice earlier today:
While on stock rooted with TWRP & Magisk,the update downloaded & attempted to install,but,it failed.
So,just flash the stock recovery for your model & take the update w/o relocking your bootloader.
You will not lose any data from switching recoveries,at least on this phone.
(If you want to unroot 1st,that's fine,but,not necessary,flashing the modified stock recovery image unroots your phone anyway.)
After taking the update,flash the TWRP & Magisk (& Magisk Manager App,if it disappeared) as you did previously.
Just posting what worked for me,& in no way are my experiences/usage intended to contradict posts/suggestions from others,especially if they have the exact same model of phone as yours.
Hope this helps. :good:
any_thing said:
Guys, i am unable to update to latest .161. I have unlocked bootloader, twrp and installed magisk.
Update manager download the update but it fails to update in twrp recovery.
Please suggest. I don't want to lose data.
Can someone provide zip update package so that i can update in twrp??
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Just install stock ram disk...
It would automatically remove twrp and root.. And u will b able to install update once updated just reflash twrp ram disk and install magisk zip to get root back..
That's how I did it on c675
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Just install stock ram disk...
It would automatically remove twrp and root.. And u will b able to install update once updated just reflash twrp ram disk and install magisk zip to get root back..
That's how I did it on c675
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will i lose my data?
any_thing said:
will i lose my data?
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No not at all... Ramdisk is a different partation
I had rooted phone with magisk installed, I received 2 updates like that - automatically lost root privileges, but I didn't receive .161 update (EIS update still not available for me?) any way to get this update?
PS my bootloader is unlocked... do I need lock it to get an update? and how to lock it?

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