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Disable Google Play Services and Google Services Framework for better battery/privacy

I disabled Google Play Services and Google Services Framework on my Moto G, because I don't need them and the Play Store (I sideload all my apps from the pc).
But there's a big problem: if I disable even one of them, and try to enable the geolocation, it only uses the option "high precision" and, worse then that, it makes all the android framework crash and reboot if I try to open any geolocation-using app (like Google Maps or the camera with geo-ON). Any hint to solve this issue? I really want to get rid of these services, for battery and privacy reasons (in particular, battery improvements are really noticeable!).
UPDATE: I don't get this bug UNLESS I reboot the phone. If I do, I get this issue. If I don't, Maps still works even with these services disabled. I'd like anyway to solve this problem so I don't have to make laborious procedures everytime the phone reboot (I already have to kill 5 motorola processes, i.e. Motocare and Motorola Services ones).
I've attached a pair of screens to clarify my situation. I'm on the STOCK and NO-ROOTED rom.
Thank you very much in advance

So you do need Google services? But don't want to need them, my advice flash stock android ROM without using G-apps
Sent from Sauwny the TL

Durteedee said:
So you do need Google services? But don't want to need them, my advice flash stock android ROM without using G-apps
Sent from Sauwny the TL
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No, I'm on the stock android and not need them. But if I disable them, and I reboot the phone, all the geolocating app I use make the system crash, that's a weird behaviour. To convince yourself, you can disable both the services, restart the phone, open Google Maps and press the location button.
If I don't reboot the phone, instead, Google Maps continues to work even with this two services disabled... that's what confuses me

I basically meant stock and stripped like CM11 without Gapps
Sent from Sauwny the TL

zack.1988 said:
No, I'm on the stock android and not need them. But if I disable them, and I reboot the phone, all the geolocating app I use make the system crash, that's a weird behaviour. To convince yourself, you can disable both the services, restart the phone, open Google Maps and press the location button.
If I don't reboot the phone, instead, Google Maps continues to work even with this two services disabled... that's what confuses me
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Basically, you're going to have to root and flash your phone. You can't remove Google services on stock.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
NO GAPPS PROJECT THREAD said:
I am one of those who do they everyday work without google stuff and without gapps. I found out several problems:
Some apps do not install because of missing Google Maps API
Some apps fc at startup bacause of missing Maps API or market license check issues
Some apps hardcoded links to several Google Apps and therefor fc or react unexpectedly on certain cases.
No access to Play Store (i tried nearly every alternative market, but nothing is as good for free apps as play store) Meanwhile, F-Droid provides nearly everything you need
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this thread may interest your needs

SamsungAdmire said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1715375
this thread may interest your needs
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Thank you for the intereeting link. Unluckily it regards mainly rooted devices... Pretty interesting though

Let me see if I get this right. You purchased a phone manufactured by Google, using a stock Rom compiled by Google, and you are trying to used Google software (Google Maps or Motorola Camera software- by Google) and you find it surprising that the system crashes after disabling Google's framework? And you are hoping to solve this without rooting or flashing a custom Rom? Seriously?
Sorry for the ironic tone, but you really need to give the idea of making a thread for this a second thought, my friend.

No problem for the ironic tone,but I can ensure you that I'm running Google Maps and (Motorola, not Google!) Camera App geotag WITHOUT having these two services enabled, and they work flawlessy the problem is ONLY when I REBOOT the phone, in which case I must enable and disable again these services in order to make apps with geolocation work without crashing the system. I will attach a screenshot of my running processes in the STOCK and NOROOT rom, and I ensure you that apart this small, boot-time issue, everything works great on my phone (with a great battery boost, I've been able to achieve 9 hours of screen time plus 1hr of calls, what do you think?).
I've about 50 apps installed, I just don't like Motorola and Google ones because they keep running about all the time, sucking out a lot of private data and battery juice

Well I am new to Android and also have/had problems using the moto g. I disabled all Google apps and stuff I could find and the OS is not really stable, I get quite a few hiccups and the phone crashes every now and then. I thought the nova launcher might be the problem, but I also suspect the OS in general.
But unlike you I don't use any Google stuff, so not even maps.
Well, I am selling the phone anyway.

No crashes here apart this Maps tweak, so it sound's really weird... maybed you disabled some critical services. On my device, with kitkat 4.4.2, ART compiler, everything is more than stable. You could try a factory reset or switching from Dalvik to ART too...

Sounds like a gigantic hassle. I don't think these services use much battery at all.

rugerredhawk said:
Sounds like a gigantic hassle. I don't think these services use much battery at all.
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Before saying that, try and let me know
(as soon I will use it in a regoular way - I.e. not gaming and not browsing all the time - I'll post a screenshot proving the 9 hours of screen time, that I wasn't able to reach with Google services enabled)

Ive had 9 hours screen time with google services enabled but that was just doing light stuff ,got 2.5 days out of my last battery charge but that was with only 5 hours screen time but mine is rooted and greenified now.
Cant think of a solution to your problem sorry,guess you will just have to avoid rebooting.

yes, I guess so...

I need to reinstall Google play services on my moto g how do I do this?

This thread is over a year old and totally unrelated to your question. Searching the forums is my advice because you are pretty unlikely to find an answer to your question by posting in this particular thread

[SOLVED] Google Play Services battery drain post OOS 10 update

Since updating to Android 10 (OxygenOS 10.0.GM21AA) through Oxygen Updater, I've been having heavy battery drain from Google Play Services.
It's top on the battery usage and I've seen anywhere from 10-25%
Things I've tried:
- Opt-in for Google Play Services beta (Curr. Ver: v19.4.19)
- Checked permissions on all apps and disabled any that don't seem right
- Cleared data for Google Play Services
Things I want to avoid:
- Wipe /data or factory reset
- Downgrade
Does anyone have any info or possible fixes for this problem?

Revert back to pie

If you have root use app ops

Are you root ??
If yes.. try installing greenify.. as well as fde.ai...

Seems like Google Play Services is just hogging all my battery even after OOS 10.0.1 update. Does anyone else have this problem or is it just me?

If you're root, try using the magisk module named "Universal GMS Doze" it should solve the drain problem.
If you're NOT rooted, try searching for the Google Services Beta Program, join it and then upgrade your app, it MAY solve the problem.
Good luck

Daenjel said:
If you're root, try using the magisk module named "Universal GMS Doze" it should solve the drain problem.
If you're NOT rooted, try searching for the Google Services Beta Program, join it and then upgrade your app, it MAY solve the problem.
Good luck
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I'll try this. But it seems like play services is never in the background, all of its battery use seems to be while the device is in use

Daenjel said:
If you're root, try using the magisk module named "Universal GMS Doze" it should solve the drain problem.
If you're NOT rooted, try searching for the Google Services Beta Program, join it and then upgrade your app, it MAY solve the problem.
Good luck
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Doesn't that magisk module break notifications though? Like notifications are delayed?

I've attempted a bunch of fixes, one of which has fixed this issue, at least so far.
1. Opted in to beta and updated to latest beta Play Services.
2. Installed GMS Doze magisk module
3. Moved apps (particularly my launcher, Hyperion) from battery optimisation Intelligent Control to Optimise.
Not sure which of these fixed it, but my money's on the battery optimisation. YMMV.

valeriee said:
Doesn't that magisk module break notifications though? Like notifications are delayed?
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I've never encountered anything like that, and I've been using this module since 2018 over various devices/roms.
You should be good to go.

Daenjel said:
I've never encountered anything like that, and I've been using this module since 2018 over various devices/roms.
You should be good to go.
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So your notifications are never delayed? I thought it was a common side effect of universal gms doze?

Can I install microG along with GMS?

Hi guys
I just got huawei p40 pro today and installed GMS manually. My discord doesn't produce any notifications. Can I install microG alongside GMS to get it working?
Thanks

i think you have to icebox your GMS to get notifications .. search some other threads here

blue_panther9_9 said:
Hi guys
I just got huawei p40 pro today and installed GMS manually. My discord doesn't produce any notifications. Can I install microG alongside GMS to get it working?
Thanks
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Yes you can.
When I got my P40 Pro I installed Micro-G just for YouTube Vanced. A week later I decided to install GMS and kept the Micro-G on the device. No issues found after combining Micro-G with GMS whatsoever.
BTW I didn't try to install the official YouTube app as I'm more satisfied with Vanced.

Does Micro-G help purely for notifications or could it help apps that require Google services to work?

Tmel14 said:
Does Micro-G help purely for notifications or could it help apps that require Google services to work?
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No, Micro-G will not allow you to run Google-Dependant apps. You need to install GMS for that. Which is very easy in case you are curious.

I can't install microG, it says I already have the latest version. The only thing I did was installing Google services and play store.
What should I do to get push notifications working? My banking app relies on firebase ?

blue_panther9_9 said:
I can't install microG, it says I already have the latest version. The only thing I did was installing Google services and play store.
What should I do to get push notifications working? My banking app relies on firebase
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For the Micro-G issues I honestly don't know. For me I installed Micro-G first and then GMS. But I remember when I tried to install YouTube Vanced it didnt run, meaning that Micro-G installation was not successful. I seached the web and the solution was deleting Mkcro-G and then installing SAI (Split APKs Installer) from APK-Pure and then re-installing Micro-G. Then YouTube Vanced worked so I know now that Micro-G is working fine. ----> try this it may work.
For your second issue about the push notifications, Firebase is a Google-Cloud massaging service. And it will have the same problem as other Google push notifications such as Gmail. There is a solution on xda I previously read but I can't find the thread. Try searching it.

blue_panther9_9 said:
I can't install microG, it says I already have the latest version. The only thing I did was installing Google services and play store.
What should I do to get push notifications working? My banking app relies on firebase
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Options:
HMS-naked (broken notifications on heaps of apps even Huawei App Gallery)
HMS+microG (for notifications with google firebase cloud messaging)
HMS+GMS (notifications broken)
HMS+GMS+icebox (freeze google play store as required for notifications and unfreeze intermittently for updating apps)
I think it is called icebox (just from memory .. or something similar) .. just search in the recent threads and you will find the process to freeze & unfreeze GMS to get notifications working.

This is awesome explanation. Thank you so much, I will have a look tonight

I just found out icebox requires all my account to be removed first. I will wait this weekend first
My understanding is
1. Install Icebox before you put anything. It requires ADB and you need to remove your Google Accounts beforehand.
2. Install GMS
3. Disable GMS with Icebox
4. Install MicroG
5. Install all the apps that you want. Make sure you have microG first before installing apps

blue_panther9_9 said:
3. Disable GMS with Icebox
4. Install MicroG
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can you post the link to this new process?
are you developing something new .. i have never heard of this combination before ...
HMS+GMS+Icebox+microG
why install microG if you are using GMS+Icebox? the purpose of Icebox is to give notifications, then you dont need microG.
if you really want the google play store, I really wouldn't bother with the P40 Pro.

linux2525 said:
can you post the link to this new process?
are you developing something new .. i have never heard of this combination before ...
HMS+GMS+Icebox+microG
why install microG if you are using GMS+Icebox? the purpose of Icebox is to give notifications, then you dont need microG.
if you really want the google play store, I really wouldn't bother with the P40 Pro.
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No I'm not developing anything new ? I'm trying to get the best of both worlds.
This GMS installation mod seems to be using microG underneath bcuz I got the message from the official microG app that my microG is already the latest version. I got the Vanced microG version installed without any need for icebox. But push notifications still doesn't work.

blue_panther9_9 said:
No I'm not developing anything new I'm trying to get the best of both worlds. .
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I haven't read of anyone successful achieving this before... Are you planning to rewrite some code of microG or can you solve with installation techniques?
If you have time to spare, then good luck trying

CALISTHRONE said:
For your second issue about the push notifications, Firebase is a Google-Cloud massaging service. There is a solution on xda I previously read but I can't find the thread. Try searching it.
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but why wouldn't you just say what the solution is? as you just said the solution above ... i.e. either (1) install microG or (2) freeze GMS
were you only talking about microG for youtube vanced? I think the other guy is talking about a microG install for google firebase cloud messaging .. so you're both mixed up trying to solve different problems.

linux2525 said:
but why wouldn't you just say what the solution is? as you just said the solution above ... i.e. either (1) install microG or (2) freeze GMS
were you only talking about microG for youtube vanced? I think the other guy is talking about a microG install for google firebase cloud messaging .. so you're both mixed up trying to solve different problems.
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OK sorry.

All good guys. Thanks, yeah MicroG vanced version didn't help me with my push notification issue.
but linux2525 pointed me to the right direction
1. HMS + GMS + Icebox. <-- At least I got my Banking app working now with Google Push notification. I think the next time I reset my PC, I would go with HMS + MicroG instead. I dont play games and mostly just Youtube, Spotify and Instagram only.
Also my whatsapp Google Drive backup still working with this combination *I'm backing up 3GB to my drive

blue_panther9_9 said:
All good guys. Thanks, yeah MicroG vanced version didn't help me with my push notification issue.
but linux2525 pointed me to the right direction
1. HMS + GMS + Icebox. <-- At least I got my Banking app working now with Google Push notification. I think the next time I reset my PC, I would go with HMS + MicroG instead. I dont play games and mostly just Youtube, Spotify and Instagram only.
Also my whatsapp Google Drive backup still working with this combination *I'm backing up 3GB to my drive
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Interesting, I'm looking at installing GMS as I have a variety of apps that won't work without Google. What makes you say you'd go without GMS next time? Are notifications working well across apss for you with Icebox?

Tmel14 said:
I'm looking at installing GMS as I have a variety of apps that won't work without Google.
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just out of interest .. which apps were those? i am curious to test on my p40 pro.

YouTube Music (technically works but can't seem to add an account)
The Atheltic
Paddy Power
Betfair
eBay
There were some others as well but can't think off the top of my head. Some of those I can use the websites instead of apps but often they aren't as user friendly.

YTMusic .. works great on firefox preview .. except a major problem .. cannot download.
eBay is not great in browser

De-google my Phone! Need advice and tutorials....

Hi Guys,
I have a OnePlus 6 (oxygenOs rooted) and am very satisfied so far. I've been extremely bothered recently by google and Facebook and Instagram tracking us, thats why I want to de-googling my Oneplus 6. I am not a professional and would like to ask you for help. I did some research on the internet and read a lot about LineageOs and MicroG. I also tried / e / rom and some apps don't work without google services like Line and some apps.
Is there a manual somewhere where I can de-googgle my cell phone and all apps work as with google? I would prefer to lead on oxygen OS or hyrogenOs if these apps would work without google services.
I would be very happy about your tips.
Thanks in advance
greetings
Coktail

ciao
you have to get microG, if you go on their post you will have enought info (and app)
there Is also a magisk module for microG
and an unofficial zip installer (that I suggest, since It could replace Gapps keeping the most of google funtionality)
anyway a lot of google stufs could not work
contact and calendar there are a lot of post discussing
pay, search, assistant, discovery, maps, autofill, maybe netflix
some of them could be easily replaced, others no way...
and, It could be preferible run microG on a gapp-free rom, as omni, syberia, crDroid, etc

hi
Psk.It said:
ciao
you have to get microG, if you go on their post you will have enought info (and app)
there Is also a magisk module for microG
and an unofficial zip installer (that I suggest, since It could replace Gapps keeping the most of google funtionality)
anyway a lot of google stufs could not work
contact and calendar there are a lot of post discussing
pay, search, assistant, discovery, maps, autofill, maybe netflix
some of them could be easily replaced, others no way...
and, It could be preferible run microG on a gapp-free rom, as omni, syberia, crDroid, etc
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Hello, thank you for reply. As i read before oxygen os cant run microG. Hydrogen Os is google free
but not have signature spoofing. I like this rom cause i like the ui and can run paralel apps.
So there is no possibility to run microG with oxy or hdyrogen os? I need Line app.
If you know a solution would be nice if you can post a link.
what you think about /e/rom?(its android9)
thanks alot
best regards

Coktail said:
Hello, thank you for reply. As i read before oxygen os cant run microG. Hydrogen Os is google free
but not have signature spoofing. I like this rom cause i like the ui and can run paralel apps.
So there is no possibility to run microG with oxy or hdyrogen os? I need Line app.
If you know a solution would be nice if you can post a link.
what you think about /e/rom?(its android9)
thanks alot
best regards
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Hydrogen nowadays Is Google free, but it is designer for china market (there are other services inside, at the end It Is worse)
There are also app to make parallel space (i used Island in the cast)
but there are also different client for the most common apps, so you can simply use 2 of them on the same phone account
(example WhatsApp + FMWhatsApp, maybe cloud backup will not work, so it's up to you ti select the best way they fit your needs)
You have to make experiments by your own, because you only can check what is the best option for your usage

Psk.It said:
Hydrogen nowadays Is Google free, but it is designer for china market (there are other services inside, at the end It Is worse)
There are also app to make parallel space (i used Island in the cast)
but there are also different client for the most common apps, so you can simply use 2 of them on the same phone account
(example WhatsApp + FMWhatsApp, maybe cloud backup will not work, so it's up to you ti select the best way they fit your needs)
You have to make experiments by your own, because you only can check what is the best option for your usage
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I have a Hydrogen phone and i first wanted to change it to oxygen but after some tweaking it's going well.
First install feem : file transfer program works on every os ... http://feem.io ...it has some advertising but the best there is.
i've got rit of all the chinese software on the phone.
installed a new gui ... nova http://novalauncher.com/
installed acmarket : another market not associated with google.
now you can still install google software if you want to.
i even deleted the chinese browser and

mmm ... ok deleting chinese browser... but pay attention with alternative store
official apps in the PlayStore some times have malware or they sold your data to thirthies...
i wont immagine what can happend on a store where "common people" contributes on It...
let say, Google can make mistakes, anyway it's better than not checking at all... (it"'s a general discussion, i don't know feem in details)

You also are able to use Lineage OS and just don't install Google Apps. There you go. There is also F-Droid as a source for apps.

HMS vs GMS Services

Hi everyone hope you are all well and safe
After a few weeks of using HMS and completely ditching GMS I can honestly say I am fully sold into the HMS core it took some tweaking I have to say to get into apps and bring over photos etc.
with that being said I wanted to start some sort of thread to those that are just starting out with HMS and what the benefits of HMS are and how do you bring them to life.
A key one for me is Huawei Cloud is currently offering 50GB for 12 months for free, I always maxed out 5gb and always thought why bother I found this a nice touch from Huawei Mobile Services.
Has anyone got any similar experiences that they would like to share so those just starting out there HMS journey can find useful.
Thanks everyone

Tech_Droid1 said:
Hi everyone hope you are all well and safe
After a few weeks of using HMS and completely ditching GMS I can honestly say I am fully sold into the HMS core it took some tweaking I have to say to get into apps and bring over photos etc.
with that being said I wanted to start some sort of thread to those that are just starting out with HMS and what the benefits of HMS are and how do you bring them to life.
A key one for me is Huawei Cloud is currently offering 50GB for 12 months for free, I always maxed out 5gb and always thought why bother I found this a nice touch from Huawei Mobile Services.
Has anyone got any similar experiences that they would like to share so those just starting out there HMS journey can find useful.
Thanks everyone
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When I got my device I got 10 free movies to watch via the Huawei video app. Pretty cool.

Install microG to resolve most notification issues.. Not perfect but fixes many apps

dw9075n said:
When I got my device I got 10 free movies to watch via the Huawei video app. Pretty cool.
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Oh wow this is cool I do like my movies I'll check it out now thanks matey

linux2525 said:
Install microG to resolve most notification issues.. Not perfect but fixes many apps
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Hey man what is the best way to do this if you don't mind me asking, APK?

Tech_Droid1 said:
Hey man what is the best way to do this if you don't mind me asking, APK?
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This solves a fair few notification problems for many apps ... and still a pretty pure HMS install .. microG is a small open-source app used for many years in heaps of ROMs ... it is simple to install but have added heaps of steps to make it easy ..
For HMS+microG
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone (as you need to install apps after microG install).
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again – it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these .. in the end, I am not sure that it helped but worth a try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277

Tech_Droid1 said:
Hi everyone hope you are all well and safe
After a few weeks of using HMS and completely ditching GMS I can honestly say I am fully sold into the HMS core it took some tweaking I have to say to get into apps and bring over photos etc.
with that being said I wanted to start some sort of thread to those that are just starting out with HMS and what the benefits of HMS are and how do you bring them to life.
A key one for me is Huawei Cloud is currently offering 50GB for 12 months for free, I always maxed out 5gb and always thought why bother I found this a nice touch from Huawei Mobile Services.
Has anyone got any similar experiences that they would like to share so those just starting out there HMS journey can find useful.
Thanks everyone
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How have you found using the cloud

linux2525 said:
This solves a fair few notification problems for many apps ... and still a pretty pure HMS install .. microG is a small open-source app used for many years in heaps of ROMs ... it is simple to install but have added heaps of steps to make it easy ..
For HMS+microG
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone (as you need to install apps after microG install).
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again – it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these .. in the end, I am not sure that it helped but worth a try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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Much appreciated my friend this is super helpful, looks like I have a busy evening.

ChrisHtube said:
How have you found using the cloud
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Seem less experience ChrisHtube - I had never set it up on GMS devices but now on HMS the pictures I take auto sync to my partners device, my tablet and synced to my Mothers device so she can see her grandchild (daily since lockdown)
How about yourself?

they did a win reward game on app gallery, got you the chance to win a p40 pro, watch etc just for downloading a game. amazing

Tech_Droid1 said:
Much appreciated my friend this is super helpful, looks like I have a busy evening.
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They are detailed steps... It should only take 15 mins.
No need to factory reset if you uninstall and reinstall each app that needs notifications after installing microG

linux2525 said:
This solves a fair few notification problems for many apps ... and still a pretty pure HMS install .. microG is a small open-source app used for many years in heaps of ROMs ... it is simple to install but have added heaps of steps to make it easy ..
For HMS+microG
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone (as you need to install apps after microG install).
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again – it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these .. in the end, I am not sure that it helped but worth a try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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I have YouTube vanced installed, should I remove micro G for YouTube Vanced to install micro G?

Ive been using a HMS device for a month is and tbf not much has changed for me in the way I use my phone, I had a look at that micro G thing from linux25 however its a bit beyond my skill set lol

EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I had a look at that micro G thing from linux25 however its a bit beyond my skill set lol
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If you receive all the notifications that you need, then do not worry ... but the steps are super-detailed .. it is actually very easy ...
1. install f-droid apk
2. install x3 microG apps
3. enable microG and install your own apps to register in microG

linux2525 said:
They are detailed steps... It should only take 15 mins.
No need to factory reset if you uninstall and reinstall each app that needs notifications after installing microG
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Great thanks for the support, it worked a right treat.

The do have a few promotions on app gallery.

linux2525 said:
Install microG to resolve most notification issues.. Not perfect but fixes many apps
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But this is GMS but on an open source, and typically GMS loaded on to HMS causes a lot of notification issues?

ChrisHtube said:
But this is GMS but on an open source, and typically GMS loaded on to HMS causes a lot of notification issues?
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Works fine and notifications work for most apps. Big improvement. Will only take you 10 mins to test if you have a naked HMS install.

Linux2525 you seem clued up so what's your feelings about the phone do you recommend it I'm coming from mate 20 Pro will I notice a difference I'm.tech savvy and I care not for Google I installed vanced on my mate 20 pro be interesting to know what hurdles you gone though I use messenger Instagram and Twitter mainly

Jimmyboy47 said:
Linux2525 you seem clued up so what's your feelings about the phone do you recommend it I'm coming from mate 20 Pro will I notice a difference I'm.tech savvy and I care not for Google I installed vanced on my mate 20 pro be interesting to know what hurdles you gone though I use messenger Instagram and Twitter mainly
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If you dont want google, then there is a good chance you can happy very easily.
I am very close ... HMS+microG and it almost perfect except for Skype notifications .. spent heaps of time trying to solve an no luck yet .. I am about to resort to GMS
For those that want google apps, I have no idea why anyone would want the hassles & reliability risks with HMS+GMS+icebox just to get an extra 2 or 3 DXOMARK points.