Hi Guys,
I have a OnePlus 6 (oxygenOs rooted) and am very satisfied so far. I've been extremely bothered recently by google and Facebook and Instagram tracking us, thats why I want to de-googling my Oneplus 6. I am not a professional and would like to ask you for help. I did some research on the internet and read a lot about LineageOs and MicroG. I also tried / e / rom and some apps don't work without google services like Line and some apps.
Is there a manual somewhere where I can de-googgle my cell phone and all apps work as with google? I would prefer to lead on oxygen OS or hyrogenOs if these apps would work without google services.
I would be very happy about your tips.
Thanks in advance
greetings
Coktail
ciao
you have to get microG, if you go on their post you will have enought info (and app)
there Is also a magisk module for microG
and an unofficial zip installer (that I suggest, since It could replace Gapps keeping the most of google funtionality)
anyway a lot of google stufs could not work
contact and calendar there are a lot of post discussing
pay, search, assistant, discovery, maps, autofill, maybe netflix
some of them could be easily replaced, others no way...
and, It could be preferible run microG on a gapp-free rom, as omni, syberia, crDroid, etc
hi
Psk.It said:
ciao
you have to get microG, if you go on their post you will have enought info (and app)
there Is also a magisk module for microG
and an unofficial zip installer (that I suggest, since It could replace Gapps keeping the most of google funtionality)
anyway a lot of google stufs could not work
contact and calendar there are a lot of post discussing
pay, search, assistant, discovery, maps, autofill, maybe netflix
some of them could be easily replaced, others no way...
and, It could be preferible run microG on a gapp-free rom, as omni, syberia, crDroid, etc
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Hello, thank you for reply. As i read before oxygen os cant run microG. Hydrogen Os is google free
but not have signature spoofing. I like this rom cause i like the ui and can run paralel apps.
So there is no possibility to run microG with oxy or hdyrogen os? I need Line app.
If you know a solution would be nice if you can post a link.
what you think about /e/rom?(its android9)
thanks alot
best regards
Coktail said:
Hello, thank you for reply. As i read before oxygen os cant run microG. Hydrogen Os is google free
but not have signature spoofing. I like this rom cause i like the ui and can run paralel apps.
So there is no possibility to run microG with oxy or hdyrogen os? I need Line app.
If you know a solution would be nice if you can post a link.
what you think about /e/rom?(its android9)
thanks alot
best regards
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Hydrogen nowadays Is Google free, but it is designer for china market (there are other services inside, at the end It Is worse)
There are also app to make parallel space (i used Island in the cast)
but there are also different client for the most common apps, so you can simply use 2 of them on the same phone account
(example WhatsApp + FMWhatsApp, maybe cloud backup will not work, so it's up to you ti select the best way they fit your needs)
You have to make experiments by your own, because you only can check what is the best option for your usage
Psk.It said:
Hydrogen nowadays Is Google free, but it is designer for china market (there are other services inside, at the end It Is worse)
There are also app to make parallel space (i used Island in the cast)
but there are also different client for the most common apps, so you can simply use 2 of them on the same phone account
(example WhatsApp + FMWhatsApp, maybe cloud backup will not work, so it's up to you ti select the best way they fit your needs)
You have to make experiments by your own, because you only can check what is the best option for your usage
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I have a Hydrogen phone and i first wanted to change it to oxygen but after some tweaking it's going well.
First install feem : file transfer program works on every os ... http://feem.io ...it has some advertising but the best there is.
i've got rit of all the chinese software on the phone.
installed a new gui ... nova http://novalauncher.com/
installed acmarket : another market not associated with google.
now you can still install google software if you want to.
i even deleted the chinese browser and
mmm ... ok deleting chinese browser... but pay attention with alternative store
official apps in the PlayStore some times have malware or they sold your data to thirthies...
i wont immagine what can happend on a store where "common people" contributes on It...
let say, Google can make mistakes, anyway it's better than not checking at all... (it"'s a general discussion, i don't know feem in details)
You also are able to use Lineage OS and just don't install Google Apps. There you go. There is also F-Droid as a source for apps.
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Hi everyone,
I have been researching and I've compiled a list of all the options available to use an Android device with Cyanogenmod without a Google account and I was wondering if anyone has a better solution considering the options I've found are all lacking.
Here is what I found including the issues for each option:
- Amazon web store (Not every app is available)
- Third party repositories, like apkmirror (Security implications of running apk that anyone can upload)
- F-Droid (Not every app is available)
- Getting the apps I need from the play store once and then backup the apks with a file manager (No updates) or I am going to need a different phone with a Google account and the play store.
Moral of the story, it's not easy to run an android phone without a google account.
Ps. A solution that I think could work (but I wasn't able to find a project that works) is an open source apk downloader (maybe on github) that get the apps straight from google via command line but all the projects I've seen are either out of date or not working...
Any suggestion is really appreciated! Thank you all!
Keep an android device with google play installed, then move the apks of things i really want, or bought already.
But honestly, after some choices I've made (running my own dropbox-like service on my server) I could definitely live with just F-Droid. Of course I'm not using some stuff like facebook or snapchat, so my needs in terms of apps isn't as extensive as others. Sometimes it does feel like i'm hamstrung when the next new fad comes and goes, but I'll live without them.
surfinpika said:
Keep an android device with google play installed, then move the apks of things i really want, or bought already.
But honestly, after some choices I've made (running my own dropbox-like service on my server) I could definitely live with just F-Droid. Of course I'm not using some stuff like facebook or snapchat, so my needs in terms of apps isn't as extensive as others. Sometimes it does feel like i'm hamstrung when the next new fad comes and goes, but I'll live without them.
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Hi surfinpika,
thanks for your input, I am starting to feel like your solution (of having a separate device with just the google account setup) is the cleanest option.
I am not into facebook or snapchat or the next fad either... but f-droid wouldn't cut it for me, stuff like keepass2android or some of the other apps I use are definitely not there. I wonder what are the security implications of using F-Droid compared to getting the apks from apkmirror. Considering my level of paranoia I wouldn't feel safe with either option.
_polymar said:
Hi surfinpika,
thanks for your input, I am starting to feel like your solution (of having a separate device with just the google account setup) is the cleanest option.
I am not into facebook or snapchat or the next fad either... but f-droid wouldn't cut it for me, stuff like keepass2android or some of the other apps I use are definitely not there. I wonder what are the security implications of using F-Droid compared to getting the apks from apkmirror. Considering my level of paranoia I wouldn't feel safe with either option.
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One issue I can think of with this approach is that both the device with google play store and the device where the apps are going to be installed will require the same CPU architecture.
Won't be able to download the apk on a cheap android (most likely ARM) and install it on ARM64...
_polymar said:
One issue I can think of with this approach is that both the device with google play store and the device where the apps are going to be installed will require the same CPU architecture.
Won't be able to download the apk on a cheap android (most likely ARM) and install it on ARM64...
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Yeah, luckily my back up is the same architecture as my non-gapps phone.
And there are also ways of getting some of the apks straight from the sources, like keepass2android from the project's website. but even if it is google, they sort of give a sense of security in that the apk won't be messed with.
It's such a mess though otherwise, hard to separate the google from the android, and no other viable OSs are any better. hope some competition at least makes a nice little niche to get away from the big G.
https://lineage.microg.org/
Go to link above to check details etc. Not the dev, just a suggestion from me.
Using it for one week, just providing the screenshots, because I am really impressed with battery from this rom ( privacy also)
Seriously? 5H of SOT?
5.30 to be exact and 10% left. I didn't know google services are so consuming for the battery. That's the reason I posted here. I think thats pure android.
Try it for now! I'm gone.^_^
its all about battery health too, i was getting always 5+ hours sot with gaaps. now i barely get 2,5-3hrs.
MicroG settings says everything is fine, but I can't verify my purchases, like greenify donation and mx player pro. Any suggestion?
I have another microg device (a tablet) manually patched up and running fine with all my purchased apps. Just to say I'm not new to microG and maybe it's a rom problem.
As for me, the best thing is UnifiedNlp Settings, so I want to know if there is a single software to configure the Nlpbackends rather than in the microG?
prazola said:
MicroG settings says everything is fine, but I can't verify my purchases, like greenify donation and mx player pro. Any suggestion?
I have another microg device (a tablet) manually patched up and running fine with all my purchased apps. Just to say I'm not new to microG and maybe it's a rom problem.
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check https://shadow53.com/android/no-gapps/setup-guide/2/
Ippfcox said:
As for me, the best thing is UnifiedNlp Settings, so I want to know if there is a single software to configure the Nlpbackends rather than in the microG?
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if you dont use microg check https://shadow53.com/android/downloads/#unifiednlp
Try to make UnifiedNlp work with gapps existing. There's a xposed module XposedUnifiedNlp. The introduction is "Integrates UnifiedNlp into system with gapps". Tried many test, after installing the apk into system/priv-app, it seems to work, but can't locate as accurately as in the lineageos microG. Need to test more....
nioonline said:
check https://shadow53.com/android/no-gapps/setup-guide/2/
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Ty, problem solved.
Does Google Photos sync work with this ROM?
Hmm.. No one third party apps working GPS for MicroG
Hi,
Like many people I don't trust Google.
They censor people, they remove websites from their rankings, they fire people for political beliefs, they track everybody, and of course their google play services app is capable of recording everything about you.
Is it possible to create a ROM for the OnePlus 6 that is without Google services?
How much of google can be stripped away at the ROM level?
How much of Android is necessary closed source from google?
Thanks.
frei6 said:
Hi,
Like many people I don't trust Google.
You know, they censor people, they remove websites from their rankings, and so on.
Is it possible to create a ROM for the OnePlus 6 that is without Google services?
How much of Android is closed source from google?
Thanks.
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I think you may have chosen the wrong phone to avoid the prying eyes of google. I think that the services are directly integrated into the functions of everything in the system (with the exception of maybe play services as some phones are without play store). Certainly if i'm wrong, someone correct me. Good luck. :fingers-crossed:
thejase said:
I think you may have chosen the wrong phone to avoid the prying eyes of google. I think that the services are directly integrated into the functions of everything in the system (with the exception of maybe play services as some phones are without play store). Certainly if i'm wrong, someone correct me. Good luck. :fingers-crossed:
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But isn't there a version of Android (AOSP) that doesn't have the google spyware?
frei6 said:
Hi,
Like many people I don't trust Google.
They censor people, they remove websites from their rankings, they fire people for political beliefs, they track everybody, and of course their google play services app is capable of recording everything about you.
Is it possible to create a ROM for the OnePlus 6 that is without Google services?
How much of google can be stripped away at the ROM level?
How much of Android is necessary closed source from google?
Thanks.
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Although Lineage for MicroG has not been released yet, you can run HavocOS which is a Lineage based ROM that includes the "spoof patch" and flash MicroG instead of an OpenGapps package.
Please note that the micro edition of Gapps is not the same thing as MicroG. MicroG contains no Google blobs and you cannot use the Play Store or other apps that require Google Play Services. You will need to use Fdroid, YALP, etc to install and update packages.
Another alternative is to use HavocOS or any other LOS based ROM with the "pico" version of OpenGapps which contains the bare minimum required to use the Play Store. This is what I'm doing currently and it works well while reducing Googles presence on your phone. OpenGapps are based on AOSP code, so there are still binary blobs. (not really open-source as the name implies.)
Hydrogen os , exact same as oos but without Google. Have a look in roms etc
Was about to say Hydrogen Os.
I am a flashaholic. I only flash roms in my home because i have everything i need to repair in case of need.
So, flash a new rom, connect to WIFI, login to google. Surprise !!!... "Google does not recognise this device".... Same device. On the same router, connection, house.
BS "security"...
Hydrogen OS, but then you may be dealing with Chinese government spyware. Pick your poison.
Hi everyone hope you are all well and safe
After a few weeks of using HMS and completely ditching GMS I can honestly say I am fully sold into the HMS core it took some tweaking I have to say to get into apps and bring over photos etc.
with that being said I wanted to start some sort of thread to those that are just starting out with HMS and what the benefits of HMS are and how do you bring them to life.
A key one for me is Huawei Cloud is currently offering 50GB for 12 months for free, I always maxed out 5gb and always thought why bother I found this a nice touch from Huawei Mobile Services.
Has anyone got any similar experiences that they would like to share so those just starting out there HMS journey can find useful.
Thanks everyone
Tech_Droid1 said:
Hi everyone hope you are all well and safe
After a few weeks of using HMS and completely ditching GMS I can honestly say I am fully sold into the HMS core it took some tweaking I have to say to get into apps and bring over photos etc.
with that being said I wanted to start some sort of thread to those that are just starting out with HMS and what the benefits of HMS are and how do you bring them to life.
A key one for me is Huawei Cloud is currently offering 50GB for 12 months for free, I always maxed out 5gb and always thought why bother I found this a nice touch from Huawei Mobile Services.
Has anyone got any similar experiences that they would like to share so those just starting out there HMS journey can find useful.
Thanks everyone
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When I got my device I got 10 free movies to watch via the Huawei video app. Pretty cool.
Install microG to resolve most notification issues.. Not perfect but fixes many apps
dw9075n said:
When I got my device I got 10 free movies to watch via the Huawei video app. Pretty cool.
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Oh wow this is cool I do like my movies I'll check it out now thanks matey
linux2525 said:
Install microG to resolve most notification issues.. Not perfect but fixes many apps
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Hey man what is the best way to do this if you don't mind me asking, APK?
Tech_Droid1 said:
Hey man what is the best way to do this if you don't mind me asking, APK?
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This solves a fair few notification problems for many apps ... and still a pretty pure HMS install .. microG is a small open-source app used for many years in heaps of ROMs ... it is simple to install but have added heaps of steps to make it easy ..
For HMS+microG
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone (as you need to install apps after microG install).
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again – it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these .. in the end, I am not sure that it helped but worth a try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
Tech_Droid1 said:
Hi everyone hope you are all well and safe
After a few weeks of using HMS and completely ditching GMS I can honestly say I am fully sold into the HMS core it took some tweaking I have to say to get into apps and bring over photos etc.
with that being said I wanted to start some sort of thread to those that are just starting out with HMS and what the benefits of HMS are and how do you bring them to life.
A key one for me is Huawei Cloud is currently offering 50GB for 12 months for free, I always maxed out 5gb and always thought why bother I found this a nice touch from Huawei Mobile Services.
Has anyone got any similar experiences that they would like to share so those just starting out there HMS journey can find useful.
Thanks everyone
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How have you found using the cloud
linux2525 said:
This solves a fair few notification problems for many apps ... and still a pretty pure HMS install .. microG is a small open-source app used for many years in heaps of ROMs ... it is simple to install but have added heaps of steps to make it easy ..
For HMS+microG
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone (as you need to install apps after microG install).
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again – it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these .. in the end, I am not sure that it helped but worth a try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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Much appreciated my friend this is super helpful, looks like I have a busy evening.
ChrisHtube said:
How have you found using the cloud
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Seem less experience ChrisHtube - I had never set it up on GMS devices but now on HMS the pictures I take auto sync to my partners device, my tablet and synced to my Mothers device so she can see her grandchild (daily since lockdown)
How about yourself?
they did a win reward game on app gallery, got you the chance to win a p40 pro, watch etc just for downloading a game. amazing
Tech_Droid1 said:
Much appreciated my friend this is super helpful, looks like I have a busy evening.
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They are detailed steps... It should only take 15 mins.
No need to factory reset if you uninstall and reinstall each app that needs notifications after installing microG
linux2525 said:
This solves a fair few notification problems for many apps ... and still a pretty pure HMS install .. microG is a small open-source app used for many years in heaps of ROMs ... it is simple to install but have added heaps of steps to make it easy ..
For HMS+microG
microG
https://microg.org/
1. Perform a factory reset of the phone (as you need to install apps after microG install).
2. Install F-Droid app (search for the apk .. F-Droid is a store with access to search for apps)
3. Add this repo into F-Droid .... https://microg.org/fdroid/repo
4. In F-Droid, then install MicroG Services Core.
5. In F-Droid, then Install MicroG Services Framework Proxy.
6. In F-Droid, then Install the MicroG FakeStore.
6. Open the Microg Settings app. Grant it all permissions and disable battery optimizations.
7. Add your Google account.
8. Turn on Device Registration, Cloud Messaging and SafetyNet.
9. Restart your phone.
10. Open Microg Settings app, check the status under Cloud Messaging. If it says not connected enter the following in the phone app: *#*#2432546#*#* and restart your phone. Check the status again – it should say Connected. (I had to enter the phone string and restart my phone twice until it said connected).
11. Install apps
12. Check connection in microG app for Google Cloud Messaging
All this will give you is push notifications with Google Cloud Messaging (including the Google Firebase messaging).
I also had notification issues caused by either Huawei PowerGenie and Android Doze .. if the notifications work and then suddenly stop after an hour or so, then try these .. in the end, I am not sure that it helped but worth a try.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hua...ility-t4100277
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I have YouTube vanced installed, should I remove micro G for YouTube Vanced to install micro G?
Ive been using a HMS device for a month is and tbf not much has changed for me in the way I use my phone, I had a look at that micro G thing from linux25 however its a bit beyond my skill set lol
EatSleepTechRepeat said:
I had a look at that micro G thing from linux25 however its a bit beyond my skill set lol
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If you receive all the notifications that you need, then do not worry ... but the steps are super-detailed .. it is actually very easy ...
1. install f-droid apk
2. install x3 microG apps
3. enable microG and install your own apps to register in microG
linux2525 said:
They are detailed steps... It should only take 15 mins.
No need to factory reset if you uninstall and reinstall each app that needs notifications after installing microG
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Great thanks for the support, it worked a right treat.
The do have a few promotions on app gallery.
linux2525 said:
Install microG to resolve most notification issues.. Not perfect but fixes many apps
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But this is GMS but on an open source, and typically GMS loaded on to HMS causes a lot of notification issues?
ChrisHtube said:
But this is GMS but on an open source, and typically GMS loaded on to HMS causes a lot of notification issues?
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Works fine and notifications work for most apps. Big improvement. Will only take you 10 mins to test if you have a naked HMS install.
Linux2525 you seem clued up so what's your feelings about the phone do you recommend it I'm coming from mate 20 Pro will I notice a difference I'm.tech savvy and I care not for Google I installed vanced on my mate 20 pro be interesting to know what hurdles you gone though I use messenger Instagram and Twitter mainly
Jimmyboy47 said:
Linux2525 you seem clued up so what's your feelings about the phone do you recommend it I'm coming from mate 20 Pro will I notice a difference I'm.tech savvy and I care not for Google I installed vanced on my mate 20 pro be interesting to know what hurdles you gone though I use messenger Instagram and Twitter mainly
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If you dont want google, then there is a good chance you can happy very easily.
I am very close ... HMS+microG and it almost perfect except for Skype notifications .. spent heaps of time trying to solve an no luck yet .. I am about to resort to GMS
For those that want google apps, I have no idea why anyone would want the hassles & reliability risks with HMS+GMS+icebox just to get an extra 2 or 3 DXOMARK points.
Hello
I did pick an Oneplus 8T on Prime Day, its still sealed and
last 3 Days i collect some Informations about Android / OxygenOS and about Custom Roms and Debloat Stuff.
I had an Samsung Galaxy S2 as my Daily Driver , at this time Android was really Bad
in the end i Root and used Cynagon with Android 6? idk anymore.
since those Days i used Apple Devices as my Daily Driver, i try some breaks from the Apple ecosystem with an P30 Pro and S10+ ( for an Month ) but switched back to iOS cuz Privacy issues.
And this is the Reason why i start the Thread "Privacy" is important for me.
So how is the Privacy and influence from Google to Track and Spy at you if u:
1. Create a New Account
2. Turn everything OFF u can
3. Dont use Google APP´s / Services ( Not that hard .. if coming from Apple )
4. Debloat with ADB
and using maybe only the Google Playstore.
Thanks for any helpfull comments
Lineage OS is officially supported on the 8t, for privacy i'd flash that and not use gapps. You can get your bootloader unlocked easily and be off the to races
Or just use oos and debloat all of Google apps with xxxnolimits magisk ROM
You can use Android without creating a Google account. You can also disable pretty much every app.
You do need a Google account to use the Play store. So if you want to install apps without an account, just download APKs from the internet.
Just curious, what kind of information do you not want to share with Google? Or Apple for that matter?
xocomaox said:
Just curious, what kind of information do you not want to share with Google? Or Apple for that matter?
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Do you work for interpol or something?
sansanc said:
Do you work for interpol or something?
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I don't believe so. Why?