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For those who can make and receive calls from their cars but do not have access to their contact list, here is the solution..(not mine. I did some research on google).
Ensure that the notification screen is open on your phone. Because synchronizing errors do not appear as an error.
After the vehicle will be connected to your phone,you may notice a notification appear that the car kit is attempting to access your contacts. Just select OK and allow each time and this fixed the problem for me.
This trick also worked on my garmin zumo 660.
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This did not work for me? I've tried multiple times deleting the connection and pairing again. Phone connects but still cannot make calls using the phone book through the car. This is really pissing me off too. I love the Skyrocket but this is a deal breaker and it may have to go back if this can't be fixed.
So I finally have it and as a female it's huge. But that aside I swear I was able to answer skype messages and such on the S2. To verify this i looked online and many people were happy this worked, so thus confirmed. But on my S3 despite having turned on notifications for skype it doesn't work. Notifications for it never pop up.
I have the Frontier lte on att. BT enable cell network enabled. Can someone please help Me? I have a disabled family member who only uses skype messaging for communicating. For some reason I thought this would work especially since I can turn on the notifications and it worked on the S2.
Thank you very, very much.
Have the same problem, the available option is only check on the phone.
Any thoughts?
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I was able to get my apps working where I could respond to them by making them work even if I was using the phone. I had to set my Gear S3 where cellular was always on, and I also downloaded the android wear app. Tried to connect it to the gear s3 so it would at least be set up. Gave it notification permissions in lock screen and security settings/other settings/notification settings (Note 7, don't judge lol) check android wear. By doing this I can respond to apps without buying other apps like notification something or another...lol...I respond to Hangouts, Facebook Messenger, Letgo, Skype, or any messenger. Problem I'm having is that you cannot initiate any of those apps from watch...smdh
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I was able to get my apps working where I could respond to them by making them work even if I was using the phone. I had to set my Gear S3 where cellular was always on, and I also downloaded the android wear app. Tried to connect it to the gear s3 so it would at least be set up. Gave it notification permissions in lock screen and security settings/other settings/notification settings (Note 7, don't judge lol) check android wear. By doing this I can respond to apps without buying other apps like notification something or another...lol...I respond to Hangouts, Facebook Messenger, Letgo, Skype, or any messenger. Problem I'm having is that you cannot initiate any of those apps from watch...smdh
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Hey, how did you connect your watch to android wear app?
I installed the app on my phone selected my S3 in the pairing screen, i got as far as entering the PIN to pair the bluetooth but since then the app says "trying to connect..."
You do not need to connect your watch to the android wear app. Just install android wear app, use it in Emulator mode. Then go in and give it permissions.
I have a WiFi Bluetooth model (Classic) and it seems to be missing some things that I would expect: I can't update email when on WiFi only and this should be a must. It should support Google Maps and OK Google but does not as far as I can tell. It should be able to make VOIP calls when on WiFi does not. Frankly they have underutilized that WiFi that is available just about anywhere.
It's not an Android Wear watch - so I don't know why you'd expect it to support Google's apps. Samsung has S Voice and as ****ty as it may be, they sure as hell aren't going to support a direct competitor to it. I can't speak to the email/voip/wifi stuf as I don't use it for any of that. As long as it shows me my notifications, I'm fine.
Soooo tell me.. why are you expecting native google functionality when it's not an Android based watch?
Here is why
As I see it, even Apple embraces some items Google items (maps and OK Google). These are superior products and if Samsung wants invest in creating a better map or a better voice search, then do so. If you want to have a killer watch, then you are going to have to have access to the best apps. Maybe you can answer a question for me. I see the watch connecting to WiFi, but I'm not getting my emails pushed while on WiFi. is this just me or does email only work with Bluetooth to my S5? What is the WiFi used for? It could be very productive with WhatsApp and email. Just my opinion. Otherwise, it is a great watch and I really like the functionality and user interface.
There is a Google Maps app you can download and I agree, it's not an Android wear watch.
Thank you
Thanks I will look for it.
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Maybe you can answer a question for me. I see the watch connecting to WiFi, but I'm not getting my emails pushed while on WiFi. is this just me or does email only work with Bluetooth to my S5? What is the WiFi used for?
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When my Gear (non LTE) is connected over WiFi (without bluetooth) I get all the notifications. The only difference, compared to bluetooth connection, is that you can't answer to phone calls but will get only a missed call notification.
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For some reason, I'm not getting email. I get it on Bluetooth, but not WiFi. My WiFi is turned on and appears to be connected. There is a message on email that it needs to connect to WiFi and this may take some time. All other notifications come through. I will see what I can do in trying to figure out this connection.
I was looking to get an S3. What I wanted to know is can the watch be connected to the app store and download faces/apps without a phone either over wifi or if an LTE version over the network? Such as if you get a tablet, you can use it fine with just a wifi connection, you don't need to pair those to a phone. I ask because for one I don't have the latest phone of the month (Sammy seems to snub those with phone models older than a year - slight exaggeration but not much). The other thing is that I want to be able to leave the phone home at times and still be able to browse for watch faces etc over wifi.
I really don't care about notifications or email (I don't get that many) nor to I want to pay for things with the watch. When I really need to do those things I don't find using the phone that much work. I just want the watch to use as a watch, and have some helpful apps to use when not carrying my phone, is it possible?
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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So unlike a tablet Samsung locks you out of the app store on the actual watch even if LTE if you don't have a phone connected? That seems kind of dumb and limiting especially since the supported phone list is so small. Is it just because browsing apps on the watch is too difficult maybe?
I wonder if this will change, I can get apps on a tablet through wifi I don't see why not with the watch. This watch seems like a mini tablet that tells time.
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Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Are you sure my friend that it can make and receive calls and send messages without it being connected to the phone via bluetooth??i got mine s3 a week ago...i love it really, but it doesn't do these things when not connected ro the phone (s6 edge plus)...
Just saw, i have the bluetooth s3 frontier version and not the LTE version...so i guess that's why it has to be connected to the phone via bluetooth...
My only problem is that i can not connect to my phone via wi-fi...whenever i activate this option on my phone, it crashes with the message gear S pluggin has stopped working...any clues ?
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afblangley said:
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Are these stand alone functions also available if you have the wifi version and no LTE?
I don't have any experience with the S3 BT model. I can only speak to the capability of the Frontier LTE. This watch is a phone. It has functionality that's probably comparable to a basic flip phone. It comes preloaded with apps for phone, messaging, contacts, S Health, weather, reminders, and a few others. When the eSIM is activated, it can perform tasks associated with these apps immediately upon startup. No phone is required.
When the watch is setup via Gear Manager, it installs software that enables additional apps to be installed and gains greater functionality. Most of which remains even when the watch is disconnected from the phone.
Gear Manger compatibility isn't limited to Samsung phones, it can be installed many Android phones, but not tablets. Not even Samsung tablets.
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I don't have any experience with the S3 BT model. I can only speak to the capability of the Frontier LTE. This watch is a phone. It has functionality that's probably comparable to a basic flip phone. It comes preloaded with apps for phone, messaging, contacts, S Health, weather, reminders, and a few others. When the eSIM is activated, it can perform tasks associated with these apps immediately upon startup. No phone is required.
When the watch is setup via Gear Manager, it installs software that enables additional apps to be installed and gains greater functionality. Most of which remains even when the watch is disconnected from the phone.
Gear Manger compatibility isn't limited to Samsung phones, it can be installed many Android phones, but not tablets. Not even Samsung tablets.
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If the watch is basically a phone then why couldn't I directly install apps/faces etc from the watch? It doesn't make much sense to me. If I install apps on a phone I do't need another phone to install things on the first one. It seems like Samsung is just too lazy to make an app on the watch to do it, or they want everyone to have to buy a new phone to use the watch (and hopefully a big percentage will buy a Samsung phone wink wink).
I wonder what the free space on the watch memory/storage is between the BT and LTE versons? If the LTE has more stuff installed I wonder if user memory is less?
I'm one of the few who use an S3 as my primary phone. I too wish that the S3 was a more independent device. But as it stands right now, it's the most capable smartwatch available (excluding watches running full Android made by a few small manufacturers). I hope that it paves the way for more standalone offerings by Apple and Android Wear watch makers.
I have a gear s3 lte Att e-sim unlocked. How can I activated with ATT GO PHONE or any other carrier Cricket,Tmobile? I am not an att customer. Thank you!
handrade773 said:
I have a gear s3 lte Att e-sim unlocked. How can I activated with ATT GO PHONE or any other carrier Cricket,Tmobile? I am not an att customer. Thank you!
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Since the eSIM is provisioned via programming, Cricket and MVNOs don't have the system to do it. So that's a no go.
Theoretically, T-Mobile should be able to do it because they also sell the watch. The difficulty is finding an employee who knows how to do it, since the IMEI won't be in their database. Getting it on a wearable line instead of a smartphone (more expensive) or tablet (no talk) plan will be an additional obstacle.
Putting the watch on GoPhone is also technically doable, someone on this forum or Android Central said they did it. I think they called CS with the IMEI and ICCID. Perhaps they will chime in on exactly how they were able to get it done.
I called ATT CS and I was able to activated on $30 plan ($25 Auto).
AFBLANGLEY, does the phone that you use to set up and manage the watch with, does that phone need to have a service plan?
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AFBLANGLEY, does the phone that you use to set up and manage the watch with, does that phone need to have a service plan?
Thanks, Dan
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No, it doesn't need a SIM. As long as the phone is connected to a WiFi network, the watch can remotely connect to it. My phone sits docked permanently, right next to the router.
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No, it doesn't need a SIM. As long as the phone is connected to a WiFi network, the watch can remotely connect to it. My phone sits docked permanently, right next to the router.
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Are you able to utilize apps like spotify and audible from the phone that is connected back home? I am going to attempt to use the same set up as you and keep my Iphone as primary phone. I just would like to get all notifications and be able to respond with the GS3 as well.
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Are you able to utilize apps like spotify and audible from the phone that is connected back home? I am going to attempt to use the same set up as you and keep my Iphone as primary phone. I just would like to get all notifications and be able to respond with the GS3 as well.
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It's my understanding that if you have a Spotify premium account, you can stream directly to the watch, but I'm not a Spotify user. I don't believe that there is an Audible app for Tizen.
In terms of messages, email and notifications, yes they will be passed through as long as the watch is remotely connected to the "host" phone.
What you're wanting to do will work fine. The reason I have the setup is because I use a tablet and it is incompatible with the S3.
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It's my understanding that if you have a Spotify premium account, you can stream directly to the watch, but I'm not a Spotify user. I don't believe that there is an Audible app for Tizen.
In terms of messages, email and notifications, yes they will be passed through as long as the watch is remotely connected to the "host" phone.
What you're wanting to do will work fine. The reason I have the setup is because I use a tablet and it is incompatible with the S3.
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This is exciting news. Do you happen to have a link that describers your experience using the setup with additional phone? I would be interested to know some details but hate to pick your brain if its already out on the interwebs.
Im guessing that the tablet has no connection and never has to the GS3?
Are you using the tablet with google voice number for calls and messaging? I was contemplating on how I could link my Verizon number on the iPhone to the android at home near the router.
Does your gear s3 still count the steps without connection with the phone? Mine stops with bt and wifi turned off.
So I got one of these S3 watches. Nice for the most part. There are times when I do not want to be always connected to the phone. It is nice they have this LTE version that can be used standalone without your phone BUT. Some genius thought it would be a good idea to plaster a nice big white watch icon over your previously nice watch face at 12:00 position when in stand alone mode to tell you you are in stand alone mode, how nice of them. This basically ruins all of the nice watchfaces out there. So you have only the choice to bring the phone and drain the battery with BT even if you don't want it or have this ugly "reminder" plastered over your watch!
Is there something I am missing or is there no way to shut that dumb icon OFF. I am seriously considering returning the watch because of this, it is so stupid of an idea.
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The watch icon only appears in standalone mode. You can avoid it by running in remote connect mode, which will still allow you to leave the phone behind.
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The watch icon only appears in standalone mode. You can avoid it by running in remote connect mode, which will still allow you to leave the phone behind.
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How do you run in remote connect mode?
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Pair the S3 with a phone via BT, then turn BT off on the phone. Check the S3 display, it should say "connected remotely AT&T/T-Mobile".
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How do you run in remote connect mode?[/11QUOTE]
Pair the S3 with a phone via BT, then turn BT off on the phone. Check the S3 display, it should say "connected remotely AT&T/T-Mobile".
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But then I would have to be constantly connected to the cellular network which is a huge battery drain right? Also I may opt to not continue cellular service due to cost, which means that damn annoying icon again.
The idea is not having to charge it every 8 hours unless I really need it to be connected. Sometimes I just need a watch and don't need a connection, at those times it would be nice to not have to connect it to something and save battery. Is there a way?
It seems real stupid that they would spoil the look of watchfaces when a main draw of the device is nice watchfaces. Is there some kind of feature request somewhere where we can request an option to shut off icons on watch faces?
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I haven't noticed a difference in battery consumption between standalone and remote connect. Either will last a 18+ hour day under normal usage.
I don't understand the purpose of wearing the watch with neither a cellular or BT connection. Would it even tell time? I know the standalone icon appear when on a service plan, but does it appear when the eSIM isn't activated?
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I haven't noticed a difference in battery consumption between standalone and remote connect. Either will last a 18+ hour day under normal usage.
I don't understand the purpose of wearing the watch with neither a cellular or BT connection. Would it even tell time? I know the standalone icon appear when on a service plan, but does it appear when the eSIM isn't activated?
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The purpose is battery life and/or bulk. Sometimes I just don't want the bulk of the phone, and this watch is good enough to leave phone behind for a time. I am not that heavy of a phone user that I always need the phone. It tells time and many apps work fine without the phone. That was a supposed selling point that you could use standalone when wanted.
How would I try it with un activated SIM? If it is activated not sure how to test inactivated. I tried shutting off the cellular in the settings but still get the icon.
The ONLY way I have found to get rid of the icon is to connect to phone with BT. Nothing else works, not even having a cellular connection.
I agree the Frontier LTE is quite capable even when not connected to a phone. So much so that it serves as my primary phone and I rarely carry any additional phone.
There is very little functionality when the watch is not connected to a network. Running it without a BT connection or a wireless plan would render it almost useless. Therefore, I haven't spent any time figuring out how to inactivate the eSIM.
As stated earlier, I only get the icon in standalone mode. It does not appear when remotely connected. Since there's no advantage to running in standalone mode vs remotely connect mode, isn't your problem solved?
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Is there something I am missing or is there no way to shut that dumb icon OFF. I am seriously considering returning the watch because of this, it is so stupid of an idea.
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I like the icon. Being in remote and/or standalone mode uses more battery. When I connect Android Auto to my S7 Edge it sometimes (but not always) kicks my Gear S3 off BT. When I see the icon I know to reconnect BT to save battery. I'm guessing that's why Samsung put it there. If you think the presence of that icon is the only thing letting people know you're wearing a smartphone with a band on your wrist vs. a "real" watch you're naïve. Especially when it lights up in dark rooms at night because of the AOD.
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I like the icon. Being in remote and/or standalone mode uses more battery. When I connect Android Auto to my S7 Edge it sometimes (but not always) kicks my Gear S3 off BT. When I see the icon I know to reconnect BT to save battery. I'm guessing that's why Samsung put it there. If you think the presence of that icon is the only thing letting people know you're wearing a smartphone with a band on your wrist vs. a "real" watch you're naïve. Especially when it lights up in dark rooms at night because of the AOD.
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Has nothing to do with making someone think it is a real watch. It has to do with nicely done beautiful watch faces all having this white "wart" spoiling the look of it.
It is ok to have it for those that want it but it should be able to be shut off with an option.
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I agree the Frontier LTE is quite capable even when not connected to a phone. So much so that it serves as my primary phone and I rarely carry any additional phone.
There is very little functionality when the watch is not connected to a network. Running it without a BT connection or a wireless plan would render it almost useless. Therefore, I haven't spent any time figuring out how to inactivate the eSIM.
As stated earlier, I only get the icon in standalone mode. It does not appear when remotely connected. Since there's no advantage to running in standalone mode vs remotely connect mode, isn't your problem solved?
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No the problem is not solved because even when remotely connected it shows for me. I turned on LTE then enabled blue tooth on the phone. It connects and the icon disappears, but as soon as I shut off BT on the phone the icon pops up again instantly. So no matter what mode I use I MUST be connected to the phone for the icon to go away. Nothing else matters, I can connect to LTE, to wifi everything but as soon as the phone connection is lost POW that effing bright white icon is back blocking out the 12:00 position. It is really quite irritating.
Maybe I am not doing remote connect right? Is there a firmware update that handles it differently maybe? I checked and it said no updates needed. I am not sure but i did as you say and it does mention something about network connected but I still get that damn dial wart.
Does your screen display this nessage?
See the difference in the icon vs remote connect?
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Does your screen display this nessage?
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I can't get it to remote connect. It is either connected to phone or shows like the second one "stand alone t-mobile".
Oh well.
To get that icon to go away do this...
Connect the watch via Bluetooth to your phone. Then turn off Bluetooth but do this on your watch and not the phone. You'll be connected "remotely" through your data connection and that watch symbol will be gone.
If you cancel Bluetooth through the phone, you'll get the symbol on your watch. Try this and see if it works.
I just don't know if you use more battery being "remotely" connected than in just stand alone mode.
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To get that icon to go away do this...
Connect the watch via Bluetooth to your phone. Then turn off Bluetooth but do this on your watch and not the phone. You'll be connected "remotely" through your data connection and that watch symbol will be gone.
If you cancel Bluetooth through the phone, you'll get the symbol on your watch. Try this and see if it works.
I just don't know if you use more battery being "remotely" connected than in just stand alone mode.
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I wonder if we can root the device if that icon could be killed? Maybe I could go to where that image is and replace with a blank image. That may work too eventually. Hopefully it will be possible to root the device.
I know the icon annoys you, but it's not accidental, it's a useful feature for some of us. Remote connection can be a little flaky- it sometimes drops out for no reason. The appearance of the standalone icon let's us know when that happens. This is important because notifications aren't passed through in standalone mode like they are in RC.
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I know the icon annoys you, but it's not accidental, it's a useful feature for some of us. Remote connection can be a little flaky- it sometimes drops out for no reason. The appearance of the standalone icon let's us know when that happens. This is important because notifications aren't passed through in standalone mode like they are in RC.
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That is why it should be an option. If you like it keep it, if you don't disable it.
It shouldn't be forced on whether you want it or not. Not everyone uses the watch the same way. For me the only way to get rid of it is BT and phone connection. Even cellular connection shows icon. It is very distracting and ruins the look of watch faces and since a main feature is nice watch faces it should be able to be turned off.
The icon should not appear while connected in BT or RC mode. Furthermore, when it does appear (SA mode), its only when the watchface is active, not on the AOD face. So it only appears for a few seconds and doesn't effect the watchface 99% of the time. That's what happens on my watch, and I don't think this is a case of YMMV. Maybe your S3 is defective?
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The icon should not appear while connected in BT or RC mode. Furthermore, when it does appear (SA mode), its only when the watchface is active, not on the AOD face. So it only appears for a few seconds and doesn't effect the watchface 99% of the time. That's what happens on my watch, and I don't think this is a case of YMMV. Maybe your S3 is defective?
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I don't use AOD as all it does is drain the battery too fast and burn-in the OLED screen. I found that the wrist motion to turn on screen works fine, I don't need it on when I am not looking at it. So for me it effects the display 99% of the time.
Even then the AOD is a simplified face, if I want to see the full quality face I get the icon to spoil it. So you either get downgraded face or spoiled face. Not a good choice for me.