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Hey guys,
Tried searching for this, but nada.
Anyone else having issues with your phone being idle but powered on ans upon bringing on the screen you receive a google talk notification that's old? Is been happening to me lately, and I can't tell if it's the phone or the fact that my desktop version is intercepting the message and preventing the phone notification.
I'm tempted to no longer use the desktop built in gmail version, but I wanted to see if others are having similar issues.
Thanks in advance!
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Can't guarantee this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with the phone letting the Google talk process close when the phone is in it's sleep state. I've noted that I keep having to re sign in to gtalk when I wake up my phone and suspect that it is an issue with the horrible multitasking that HTC has bundled into sense 4.0.
I assume both of you also get delayed notifications with push email using the native Gmail app? I also frequently get logged out of Google Talk when I put the phone in standby mode. When I am logged out of Google Talk, my push emails are delayed in the Gmail app until I log back into Google Talk.
So it seems to be some problem of getting disconnected from google services when the phone is asleep.
I don't think i've been getting delayed notifications, but I do notice that my chat gets out of order a lot. My replies will be above whoever is talking to me no matter what order each was sent in.
Almost every phone that comes out gets a google talk going eventually so there is lots out there, but each phone has it's own issues. Here is a thread that was pretty good from the Galaxy Nexus Forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400367
With the HOX I have had issues with Google Talk not working great when the wifi is dropping, so this might be part of the wifi issue that pretty much everybody is having with this phone. The wifi stays connected but seems to go to sleep so your phone only gets the notification once it is woken up. Try turning off the wifi and seeing if you have the same problem.
As for Google Talk, there are some oddities that go along with using it on multiple devices. Here is some stuff I figured out playing around with it on multiple devices and computers at the same time. (I posted this in the GN forums as well)
"Google Talk is my main means of communication it seems so I have played with it a lot. Here are my observations.
1. To keep it "up" all the time in the Talk App hit the menu button (three dots now) >settings>uncheck automatic away status. Also make sure your phone has automatic syncing turned on for your gmail account: Setting>Accounts and Sync>ON (for your chat gmail address anyway). Additionally make sure your mobile data is turned on if you are ever off wifi: Settings>More>Mobile networks>Data Enabled (checked to turn on)
2. You can have up to 6 devices linked to your talk account at once, after that they just stop working.
3. When you receive a IM it appears on both your phone and your gmail account. If you start typing on the gmail account (or G+) it hijacks the whole session and you phone no longer gets the notifications, but the conversation still shows up on the chat window on the phone. When you are done with the IM session make sure you close the window on gmail (or G+) and send one last message from your phone or tablet to take the session back over, if you don't your phone will not receive future chat notifications. You can also just log out of your gmail/G+ session and it will automatically return everything to your phone/tablet but who ever does that?
4. To figure out how it all worked and tinker with it I use both of my gmail accounts and chat back and forth with them. You can do it from separate browsers or just open an incognito window in Chrome and log into your other gmail account. I would recommend this so you can see all of this stuff in practice.
Good Luck, hope this helps"
Gtalk and gmail delays
Hi all,
I have performed tests and discovered that if i disable WiFI and only use the phone's data connection "4g" or LTE that i receive all my messages with no problem even when the phone locks/goes to sleep. However if i leave wifi turned on, within 5-10 seconds i stop receiving them and will only receive them when i wake up the phone/unlock or wait for the delay which can be anywhere from 5-15 mins.
Trying to figure out a way to by pass this, but can't seem to figure it out. I don't want to keep my wifi off when i'm at work or home so i don't use data as i have 3GB and not unlimited so it kind of sucks that i have to keep wifi off for now. Any thoughts/ideas would be great, thanks.
k0sun7eash3d said:
Can't guarantee this, but I have a feeling it may have something to do with the phone letting the Google talk process close when the phone is in it's sleep state. I've noted that I keep having to re sign in to gtalk when I wake up my phone and suspect that it is an issue with the horrible multitasking that HTC has bundled into sense 4.0.
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This. I have issues with timely/accurate reception of notifications from GV. I only use my account for voicemail, but typically I only get voicemail notifications if I open the actual application (which I do because my gmail account receives an email notification now, as well). Sometimes I notice GV as a running task, but often times not, so to me it seems that (possibly) multitasking or some other form of process management in ICS or Sense is not prioritizing the GV process and it's associated actions. I dont mind the aggressive multitasking, but it would be nice to have the option of protecting some processes, such as GV.
I removed google + app completely with titanium backup, and the problem is gone., I get the messages immediately
Push Notifications Fixer can fix it
xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer
I'm running the latest Viper, I've never had an issue receiving or sending msgs. The only time the phone won't alert me is if I am actively typing in the browser window.
I'll note though that I never have wifi on, it's always on the mobile network.
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Push Notifications Fixer can fix it
xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2142503
play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andqlimax.pushfixer
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I tried everything not even this works for me
Same problem, screen off - phone disconnects, unlock the phone - messages start to appear
Same problem on 2 different phones and 2 different numbers
I don't use G Talk, but I see the same thing with G Voice. I almost never get voicemail notifications on my HOX (they show up instantly on my old GNex). I blame Sense (for this and other things).
Same problem, but with Nexus 4 when I am on WiFi. With data connection, it works without problems.
Don't want to sound like a total noob, and I have searched and founds some information on this, but, nothing that appears to be a solution. Long story short: I get zero notifications when my phone is connected to WiFi (Google Voice, Gmail, Facebook, etc.). As soon as I either turn autosync off and then back on to force a sync (via toggle) or disable WiFi and connect to LTE or 3G, all of my notifications come through. From looking around it appears that this has been an issue on "factory stock" Nexus versions for a while (ARP?), and I have yet to see solutions that don't involve rooting and changing INI files. Anyone have any insight into this? My old phone worked fine, but it was rooted and ran CM 10.0. Not a deal breaker, but it is annoying and seems silly.
-Rhys
Hey,
so sometimes (especially when u wait [testing]) it needs some time til notifications appear, but I'm general it's working as it should for me...
So just a few thoughts:
- tested on different WLANs
- checked ur WLAN settings
- deleted WLAN and re-added it
- deleted and re-added accounts
- (factory) reset phone
CHEERS
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I was looking to get an S3. What I wanted to know is can the watch be connected to the app store and download faces/apps without a phone either over wifi or if an LTE version over the network? Such as if you get a tablet, you can use it fine with just a wifi connection, you don't need to pair those to a phone. I ask because for one I don't have the latest phone of the month (Sammy seems to snub those with phone models older than a year - slight exaggeration but not much). The other thing is that I want to be able to leave the phone home at times and still be able to browse for watch faces etc over wifi.
I really don't care about notifications or email (I don't get that many) nor to I want to pay for things with the watch. When I really need to do those things I don't find using the phone that much work. I just want the watch to use as a watch, and have some helpful apps to use when not carrying my phone, is it possible?
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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So unlike a tablet Samsung locks you out of the app store on the actual watch even if LTE if you don't have a phone connected? That seems kind of dumb and limiting especially since the supported phone list is so small. Is it just because browsing apps on the watch is too difficult maybe?
I wonder if this will change, I can get apps on a tablet through wifi I don't see why not with the watch. This watch seems like a mini tablet that tells time.
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Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Are you sure my friend that it can make and receive calls and send messages without it being connected to the phone via bluetooth??i got mine s3 a week ago...i love it really, but it doesn't do these things when not connected ro the phone (s6 edge plus)...
Just saw, i have the bluetooth s3 frontier version and not the LTE version...so i guess that's why it has to be connected to the phone via bluetooth...
My only problem is that i can not connect to my phone via wi-fi...whenever i activate this option on my phone, it crashes with the message gear S pluggin has stopped working...any clues ?
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afblangley said:
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Are these stand alone functions also available if you have the wifi version and no LTE?
I don't have any experience with the S3 BT model. I can only speak to the capability of the Frontier LTE. This watch is a phone. It has functionality that's probably comparable to a basic flip phone. It comes preloaded with apps for phone, messaging, contacts, S Health, weather, reminders, and a few others. When the eSIM is activated, it can perform tasks associated with these apps immediately upon startup. No phone is required.
When the watch is setup via Gear Manager, it installs software that enables additional apps to be installed and gains greater functionality. Most of which remains even when the watch is disconnected from the phone.
Gear Manger compatibility isn't limited to Samsung phones, it can be installed many Android phones, but not tablets. Not even Samsung tablets.
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I don't have any experience with the S3 BT model. I can only speak to the capability of the Frontier LTE. This watch is a phone. It has functionality that's probably comparable to a basic flip phone. It comes preloaded with apps for phone, messaging, contacts, S Health, weather, reminders, and a few others. When the eSIM is activated, it can perform tasks associated with these apps immediately upon startup. No phone is required.
When the watch is setup via Gear Manager, it installs software that enables additional apps to be installed and gains greater functionality. Most of which remains even when the watch is disconnected from the phone.
Gear Manger compatibility isn't limited to Samsung phones, it can be installed many Android phones, but not tablets. Not even Samsung tablets.
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If the watch is basically a phone then why couldn't I directly install apps/faces etc from the watch? It doesn't make much sense to me. If I install apps on a phone I do't need another phone to install things on the first one. It seems like Samsung is just too lazy to make an app on the watch to do it, or they want everyone to have to buy a new phone to use the watch (and hopefully a big percentage will buy a Samsung phone wink wink).
I wonder what the free space on the watch memory/storage is between the BT and LTE versons? If the LTE has more stuff installed I wonder if user memory is less?
I'm one of the few who use an S3 as my primary phone. I too wish that the S3 was a more independent device. But as it stands right now, it's the most capable smartwatch available (excluding watches running full Android made by a few small manufacturers). I hope that it paves the way for more standalone offerings by Apple and Android Wear watch makers.
I have a gear s3 lte Att e-sim unlocked. How can I activated with ATT GO PHONE or any other carrier Cricket,Tmobile? I am not an att customer. Thank you!
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I have a gear s3 lte Att e-sim unlocked. How can I activated with ATT GO PHONE or any other carrier Cricket,Tmobile? I am not an att customer. Thank you!
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Since the eSIM is provisioned via programming, Cricket and MVNOs don't have the system to do it. So that's a no go.
Theoretically, T-Mobile should be able to do it because they also sell the watch. The difficulty is finding an employee who knows how to do it, since the IMEI won't be in their database. Getting it on a wearable line instead of a smartphone (more expensive) or tablet (no talk) plan will be an additional obstacle.
Putting the watch on GoPhone is also technically doable, someone on this forum or Android Central said they did it. I think they called CS with the IMEI and ICCID. Perhaps they will chime in on exactly how they were able to get it done.
I called ATT CS and I was able to activated on $30 plan ($25 Auto).
AFBLANGLEY, does the phone that you use to set up and manage the watch with, does that phone need to have a service plan?
Thanks, Dan
Dudical said:
AFBLANGLEY, does the phone that you use to set up and manage the watch with, does that phone need to have a service plan?
Thanks, Dan
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No, it doesn't need a SIM. As long as the phone is connected to a WiFi network, the watch can remotely connect to it. My phone sits docked permanently, right next to the router.
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No, it doesn't need a SIM. As long as the phone is connected to a WiFi network, the watch can remotely connect to it. My phone sits docked permanently, right next to the router.
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Are you able to utilize apps like spotify and audible from the phone that is connected back home? I am going to attempt to use the same set up as you and keep my Iphone as primary phone. I just would like to get all notifications and be able to respond with the GS3 as well.
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Are you able to utilize apps like spotify and audible from the phone that is connected back home? I am going to attempt to use the same set up as you and keep my Iphone as primary phone. I just would like to get all notifications and be able to respond with the GS3 as well.
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It's my understanding that if you have a Spotify premium account, you can stream directly to the watch, but I'm not a Spotify user. I don't believe that there is an Audible app for Tizen.
In terms of messages, email and notifications, yes they will be passed through as long as the watch is remotely connected to the "host" phone.
What you're wanting to do will work fine. The reason I have the setup is because I use a tablet and it is incompatible with the S3.
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It's my understanding that if you have a Spotify premium account, you can stream directly to the watch, but I'm not a Spotify user. I don't believe that there is an Audible app for Tizen.
In terms of messages, email and notifications, yes they will be passed through as long as the watch is remotely connected to the "host" phone.
What you're wanting to do will work fine. The reason I have the setup is because I use a tablet and it is incompatible with the S3.
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This is exciting news. Do you happen to have a link that describers your experience using the setup with additional phone? I would be interested to know some details but hate to pick your brain if its already out on the interwebs.
Im guessing that the tablet has no connection and never has to the GS3?
Are you using the tablet with google voice number for calls and messaging? I was contemplating on how I could link my Verizon number on the iPhone to the android at home near the router.
Does your gear s3 still count the steps without connection with the phone? Mine stops with bt and wifi turned off.
Galaxy Samsung S7
Samsung Gear S3 watch
All updated, no outstanding software updates available.
I having the issue where 8 runs out of 10 S Health just stops tracking my distance.
Steps continue to count
Clock continues to count
The issue seems to happen when either I stop running - i.e. waiting to cross a road or when I pass under a bridge (bridge is probably 3 metres)... the watch seems to drop out. Only way is to stop and restart.
The interesting thing is if I stop and restart it works straight away - so that tells me I am within GPS signal.
The problem seems to be that if it drops out, it never can reconnect and start again. I have ran 7km, it has dropped out after 2km - yet for the rest of the other 5km - your telling me that I was never in GPS signal to pick up again ??
Can someone confirm that if I have my watch connected via Bluetooth, is the S Health app taking GPS from the watch itself or from the phone?
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Galaxy Samsung S7
Samsung Gear S3 watch
All updated, no outstanding software updates available.
I having the issue where 8 runs out of 10 S Health just stops tracking my distance.
Steps continue to count
Clock continues to count
The issue seems to happen when either I stop running - i.e. waiting to cross a road or when I pass under a bridge (bridge is probably 3 metres)... the watch seems to drop out. Only way is to stop and restart.
The interesting thing is if I stop and restart it works straight away - so that tells me I am within GPS signal.
The problem seems to be that if it drops out, it never can reconnect and start again. I have ran 7km, it has dropped out after 2km - yet for the rest of the other 5km - your telling me that I was never in GPS signal to pick up again ??
Can someone confirm that if I have my watch connected via Bluetooth, is the S Health app taking GPS from the watch itself or from the phone?
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I somehow but dialed I response to your post, smh sorry about that.
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Thanks for that helpful insight !
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Thanks for that helpful insight !
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I have the same issue. I've tried: turning off auto pause, changing type from GPS only, GPS+wireless. I changed distance, adjusted guide, nothing has fixed it. Has been like this since Day 1 for me.
No issues for me. I'm normally tracking with S-Health on the watch and Strava on the phone as S-Health integration into Strava isn't very good.
I thought I read somewhere that when its paired it uses the phone GPS. Try it stand alone and see if it works.
just quick update - I ran 6km + on Sunday - following the same run / trail as I did previous when the S3 bombed out on me. This time I changed the following:
settings - connections - wifi - Off
settings - connections - location - on - methods GPS
It managed to track the entire 6km + without any issues or dropping out. I am running twice again this week and will let you know how it goes...
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just quick update - I ran 6km + on Sunday - following the same run / trail as I did previous when the S3 bombed out on me. This time I changed the following:
settings - connections - wifi - Off
settings - connections - location - on - methods GPS
It managed to track the entire 6km + without any issues or dropping out. I am running twice again this week and will let you know how it goes...
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I'll try that tonight. I had WIFI on.
Wonder if that's the key.
ok so cancel that... had the same settings as Sunday and it failed again tonight after 0.9km
Restarted the tracking again ... failed after 0.2km ... retired again - failed after 0.5km
Something is seriously wrong with the S Health app for tracking..
Next i am going to try a factory restart and see if I can block all notifications from my phone - incase the alerts / pop ups are causing issue....
not good
I have similar issue.
Ok, so I tried the suggested idea of turning off wifi, leaving BT on and GPS only. No change.
I tried turning off wifi, turning off BT. Then using gps and it worked. HOWEVER, it was only 1 test. (Basically watch only)
More testing needed.
Same issue here. Like others, I've tried different combinations of settings (wifi on/off, gps only, auto-pause on/off, etc.). I haven't turned off the Bluetooth connection to the phone, because without notifications, what would be the point - I can buy a dedicated gps watch for less than $50.
However, here are a couple of things I have found that are consistent.
shutting down the gear app on the phone, and restarting it seems to immediately help "location"
doing a reset of the watch, and reconnecting to the phone/app seems to make the s-health record distance consistently and correctly for a few days. HOWEVER, after 3 or 4 days it will stop recording distance during a run. After that, no matter what I do, it is flaky. Sometimes it won't record distance at all, and other times it will record sporadically. After a reset, it will function correctly for 3 or 4 days, and then flake out again.
After reading several threads in several forums, it appears that this is common and Samsung has no response. I really want to like the Gear S3, but this is too much money to spend on a mediocre product.
Samsung Gear S3 works fine, The S-Health app also works fine. The only thing is the working concept is not clearly understood by some people and not well explained by Samsung itself.
If your Samsung Gear S3 has problem tracking your location or distance during cycling or walking activities, here how to solve that:
Condition 1: Your Gear S3 is paired to Phone vie Bluetooth.
In this situation your Gear S3 will rely the location information from your phone.
You do not have to change any setting in your gear S3 ( Bluetooth still on, Wireless on, Location mode GPS & wireless, autopause on)
Make sure your phone Location setting is set to "On" and at "highest accuracy" mode. It means enable all GPS, WiFi and wireless networks for location searching from your phone.
Make sure your phone is not in "Power Saving" mode, because it limits the location tracking ability from your phone.
In this way your gear S3 can track your location, map your distance, and generate the route correctly. Even autopause works correctly and precisely.
Any location tracking faulty in this situation is mostly your phone location tracking faulty.
(You can test your phone tracking problem by running with your phone and S-Health app installed on it separately from your Gear S3)
Condition 2: Your Gear S3 is disconnected from the phone (stand alone)
In case you are not sure your phone can track location correctly in certain condition or you want to save your phone battery, disconnect your Gear from the phone. (Bluetooth Off, Wirelss Off, Location On- GPS & wireless / GPS only, or just simply press flight mode)
In stand alone mode, your Gear S3 will rely on its own GPS.
In this way your gear S3 can track your location, map your distance, and generate the route correctly (without detailed maps). Even autopause works correctly and precisely. The cycling and walking data will be synced to your phone after it is connected again.
Before starting your activity, make sure Gear's GPS has found your location.
At the first time you are using "standalone" mode, Gear may need some time (around 1-3 minutes) for GPS to locate your position. The small location (balloon) icon is blinking when searching and turns solid when it has found your location. Once is done, next time you use standalone GPS mode, it will locate you quickly.
At the first time you are using "standalone" mode after switching from phone connected mode, it's a good practice to restart your watch especially if it takes too long to find your location at first.
I hope this helps. I have tested it consistently on my Gear S3 Frontier, and my phone is Samsung Galaxy S6.
I WAS getting Gmail notifications on my standalone S3 Frontier and now I'm not. I have been playing with BT to try and improve battery life so that may have impacted. Currently I have BT OFF on the watch, ON on the phone and cannot get email notification. And gmail notofications are ON in the app. Just in case. Any ideas?
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I WAS getting Gmail notifications on my standalone S3 Frontier and now I'm not. I have been playing with BT to try and improve battery life so that may have impacted. Currently I have BT OFF on the watch, ON on the phone and cannot get email notification. And gmail notofications are ON in the app. Just in case. Any ideas?
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Is the phone displaying the "Remotely Connected" status on Gear Manager App?
Also LTE is a battery hog compared to Bluetooth, using Bluetooth seems to be a better option according to me.:good:
No Remotely Connected. Just Stand Alone. Does Remotely Connected come on when in BT but separated from phone?
OK. NOW it says Remotely Connected for some reason. I tried various combinations of BT and physically left my phone behind and I guess whatever the most recent one was worked. Wish I'd kept notes.
And now it does NOT say Remotely Connected. Got any idea how this is supposed to work? BT and WiFi are off on the watch.