So I got one of these S3 watches. Nice for the most part. There are times when I do not want to be always connected to the phone. It is nice they have this LTE version that can be used standalone without your phone BUT. Some genius thought it would be a good idea to plaster a nice big white watch icon over your previously nice watch face at 12:00 position when in stand alone mode to tell you you are in stand alone mode, how nice of them. This basically ruins all of the nice watchfaces out there. So you have only the choice to bring the phone and drain the battery with BT even if you don't want it or have this ugly "reminder" plastered over your watch!
Is there something I am missing or is there no way to shut that dumb icon OFF. I am seriously considering returning the watch because of this, it is so stupid of an idea.
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The watch icon only appears in standalone mode. You can avoid it by running in remote connect mode, which will still allow you to leave the phone behind.
afblangley said:
The watch icon only appears in standalone mode. You can avoid it by running in remote connect mode, which will still allow you to leave the phone behind.
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How do you run in remote connect mode?
DaveC1964 said:
How do you run in remote connect mode?[/11QUOTE]
Pair the S3 with a phone via BT, then turn BT off on the phone. Check the S3 display, it should say "connected remotely AT&T/T-Mobile".
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DaveC1964 said:
How do you run in remote connect mode?[/11QUOTE]
Pair the S3 with a phone via BT, then turn BT off on the phone. Check the S3 display, it should say "connected remotely AT&T/T-Mobile".
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But then I would have to be constantly connected to the cellular network which is a huge battery drain right? Also I may opt to not continue cellular service due to cost, which means that damn annoying icon again.
The idea is not having to charge it every 8 hours unless I really need it to be connected. Sometimes I just need a watch and don't need a connection, at those times it would be nice to not have to connect it to something and save battery. Is there a way?
It seems real stupid that they would spoil the look of watchfaces when a main draw of the device is nice watchfaces. Is there some kind of feature request somewhere where we can request an option to shut off icons on watch faces?
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I haven't noticed a difference in battery consumption between standalone and remote connect. Either will last a 18+ hour day under normal usage.
I don't understand the purpose of wearing the watch with neither a cellular or BT connection. Would it even tell time? I know the standalone icon appear when on a service plan, but does it appear when the eSIM isn't activated?
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I haven't noticed a difference in battery consumption between standalone and remote connect. Either will last a 18+ hour day under normal usage.
I don't understand the purpose of wearing the watch with neither a cellular or BT connection. Would it even tell time? I know the standalone icon appear when on a service plan, but does it appear when the eSIM isn't activated?
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The purpose is battery life and/or bulk. Sometimes I just don't want the bulk of the phone, and this watch is good enough to leave phone behind for a time. I am not that heavy of a phone user that I always need the phone. It tells time and many apps work fine without the phone. That was a supposed selling point that you could use standalone when wanted.
How would I try it with un activated SIM? If it is activated not sure how to test inactivated. I tried shutting off the cellular in the settings but still get the icon.
The ONLY way I have found to get rid of the icon is to connect to phone with BT. Nothing else works, not even having a cellular connection.
I agree the Frontier LTE is quite capable even when not connected to a phone. So much so that it serves as my primary phone and I rarely carry any additional phone.
There is very little functionality when the watch is not connected to a network. Running it without a BT connection or a wireless plan would render it almost useless. Therefore, I haven't spent any time figuring out how to inactivate the eSIM.
As stated earlier, I only get the icon in standalone mode. It does not appear when remotely connected. Since there's no advantage to running in standalone mode vs remotely connect mode, isn't your problem solved?
DaveC1964 said:
Is there something I am missing or is there no way to shut that dumb icon OFF. I am seriously considering returning the watch because of this, it is so stupid of an idea.
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I like the icon. Being in remote and/or standalone mode uses more battery. When I connect Android Auto to my S7 Edge it sometimes (but not always) kicks my Gear S3 off BT. When I see the icon I know to reconnect BT to save battery. I'm guessing that's why Samsung put it there. If you think the presence of that icon is the only thing letting people know you're wearing a smartphone with a band on your wrist vs. a "real" watch you're naïve. Especially when it lights up in dark rooms at night because of the AOD.
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I like the icon. Being in remote and/or standalone mode uses more battery. When I connect Android Auto to my S7 Edge it sometimes (but not always) kicks my Gear S3 off BT. When I see the icon I know to reconnect BT to save battery. I'm guessing that's why Samsung put it there. If you think the presence of that icon is the only thing letting people know you're wearing a smartphone with a band on your wrist vs. a "real" watch you're naïve. Especially when it lights up in dark rooms at night because of the AOD.
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Has nothing to do with making someone think it is a real watch. It has to do with nicely done beautiful watch faces all having this white "wart" spoiling the look of it.
It is ok to have it for those that want it but it should be able to be shut off with an option.
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I agree the Frontier LTE is quite capable even when not connected to a phone. So much so that it serves as my primary phone and I rarely carry any additional phone.
There is very little functionality when the watch is not connected to a network. Running it without a BT connection or a wireless plan would render it almost useless. Therefore, I haven't spent any time figuring out how to inactivate the eSIM.
As stated earlier, I only get the icon in standalone mode. It does not appear when remotely connected. Since there's no advantage to running in standalone mode vs remotely connect mode, isn't your problem solved?
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No the problem is not solved because even when remotely connected it shows for me. I turned on LTE then enabled blue tooth on the phone. It connects and the icon disappears, but as soon as I shut off BT on the phone the icon pops up again instantly. So no matter what mode I use I MUST be connected to the phone for the icon to go away. Nothing else matters, I can connect to LTE, to wifi everything but as soon as the phone connection is lost POW that effing bright white icon is back blocking out the 12:00 position. It is really quite irritating.
Maybe I am not doing remote connect right? Is there a firmware update that handles it differently maybe? I checked and it said no updates needed. I am not sure but i did as you say and it does mention something about network connected but I still get that damn dial wart.
Does your screen display this nessage?
See the difference in the icon vs remote connect?
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Does your screen display this nessage?
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I can't get it to remote connect. It is either connected to phone or shows like the second one "stand alone t-mobile".
Oh well.
To get that icon to go away do this...
Connect the watch via Bluetooth to your phone. Then turn off Bluetooth but do this on your watch and not the phone. You'll be connected "remotely" through your data connection and that watch symbol will be gone.
If you cancel Bluetooth through the phone, you'll get the symbol on your watch. Try this and see if it works.
I just don't know if you use more battery being "remotely" connected than in just stand alone mode.
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To get that icon to go away do this...
Connect the watch via Bluetooth to your phone. Then turn off Bluetooth but do this on your watch and not the phone. You'll be connected "remotely" through your data connection and that watch symbol will be gone.
If you cancel Bluetooth through the phone, you'll get the symbol on your watch. Try this and see if it works.
I just don't know if you use more battery being "remotely" connected than in just stand alone mode.
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I wonder if we can root the device if that icon could be killed? Maybe I could go to where that image is and replace with a blank image. That may work too eventually. Hopefully it will be possible to root the device.
I know the icon annoys you, but it's not accidental, it's a useful feature for some of us. Remote connection can be a little flaky- it sometimes drops out for no reason. The appearance of the standalone icon let's us know when that happens. This is important because notifications aren't passed through in standalone mode like they are in RC.
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I know the icon annoys you, but it's not accidental, it's a useful feature for some of us. Remote connection can be a little flaky- it sometimes drops out for no reason. The appearance of the standalone icon let's us know when that happens. This is important because notifications aren't passed through in standalone mode like they are in RC.
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That is why it should be an option. If you like it keep it, if you don't disable it.
It shouldn't be forced on whether you want it or not. Not everyone uses the watch the same way. For me the only way to get rid of it is BT and phone connection. Even cellular connection shows icon. It is very distracting and ruins the look of watch faces and since a main feature is nice watch faces it should be able to be turned off.
The icon should not appear while connected in BT or RC mode. Furthermore, when it does appear (SA mode), its only when the watchface is active, not on the AOD face. So it only appears for a few seconds and doesn't effect the watchface 99% of the time. That's what happens on my watch, and I don't think this is a case of YMMV. Maybe your S3 is defective?
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The icon should not appear while connected in BT or RC mode. Furthermore, when it does appear (SA mode), its only when the watchface is active, not on the AOD face. So it only appears for a few seconds and doesn't effect the watchface 99% of the time. That's what happens on my watch, and I don't think this is a case of YMMV. Maybe your S3 is defective?
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I don't use AOD as all it does is drain the battery too fast and burn-in the OLED screen. I found that the wrist motion to turn on screen works fine, I don't need it on when I am not looking at it. So for me it effects the display 99% of the time.
Even then the AOD is a simplified face, if I want to see the full quality face I get the icon to spoil it. So you either get downgraded face or spoiled face. Not a good choice for me.
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Smart WiFi Toggler is an application designed to control your phone's WiFi using location based rules. Its aim is to conserve battery and minimize data charges by turning WiFi off when not connected to a network, and turning it on when a known hotspot is present. It constantly learns where your hotspots are located to make its decisions.
It's a very useful application if you frequently forget to turn WiFi off when leaving a hotspot, or if you want to automatically switch from mobile data to WiFi to conserve battery whenever you're back into a hotspot.
Hope you enjoy using Smart WiFi Toggler as much as I enjoyed building it!
*** I am happy to add support for more languages. If you are willing to help with the translation, please drop me an email. Thanks. ***
Features:
- Automatically learns your WiFi hotspot locations.
- Turns WiFi off when disconnected from WiFi network.
- Automatically turns WiFi on when near a known hotspot.
- Uses your network location. No GPS battery drain.
- Provides the ability to control "auto-connect" behavior for each hotspot.
- Ability to lock WiFi to a disabled state.
- Warning notification and auto-locking WiFi when a hotspot is down.
- History and logging, in addition to a view of what is going on under the hood.
Market Link (Still on 2.2.10): Click here
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Any questions you have or bugs you would like to report, you may post it here or contact me on the app's developer email. I will try to get back to you as soon as I can.
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v2.3
- Brand new UI.
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- Added a new statistics screen.
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Great idea!
If I understood correctly from the screenshots, the app will shut down wifi when the connection is lost. How does it know when the device is back to hotspot area? By using gps locations?
mikpel said:
Great idea!
If I understood correctly from the screenshots, the app will shut down wifi when the connection is lost. How does it know when the device is back to hotspot area? By using gps locations?
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GPS is not used. It uses your network location. It's not 100% accurate, but the aim was to use as little battery as possible. GPS would not have fit that criteria.
Actually that's what I wanted to hear because, as you say, gps would spoil the idea of battery saving.
Now I really have to try this!
Cool app bro. You finally released it to the public. I will definitely check it out. You guys should probably try it. There is very hard work in it. Keep up the good work.
Anyone else getting "unable to process purchase" from the market??
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Anyone else getting "unable to process purchase" from the market??
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Nope
Finally got it working. It was my fault.
Now it's crashing on me when I select the start button. On an evo 3d running cm9.
Cloaker said:
Finally got it working. It was my fault.
Now it's crashing on me when I select the start button. On an evo 3d running cm9.
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Well that's no good. Please send me your logcat trace. I'll try to find out why that's happening.
Edit: I just saw the crash report. Do you have a CDMA phone? If so, it won't work. Currently, it only works on GSM. I should have mentioned that, sorry.
Awwww! Yes it's cmda. I'm sad now, all the other apps like this are out dated. Oh well, keep up the good work coughcmdacough
Updated to version 1.1. Now supporting CDMA devices (thanks to Cloaker).
Any reason that I'd want to replace Y5 with this? Does this do anything different or better?
lexluthor said:
Any reason that I'd want to replace Y5 with this? Does this do anything different or better?
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I don't know really. I've never tried Y5.
After checking it out, it looks outdated (kidding...). Smart WiFi Toggler has more options i guess. Timer control, per-wifi settings, etc.
Try it, see if you like it. If not, I'm happy you tried anyway.
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Any reason that I'd want to replace Y5 with this? Does this do anything different or better?
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Y5 for me seemed to open too large of an area, this seems tighter and has more options. Also, I'm not afraid to offend, lol, y5 is outdated.
Yes, Y5 is very outdated at this point and is probably abandonware, but it does still work.
Always looking to replace abandoned apps with apps still supported though, so I'll give this a try.
I have an issue/bug? and a couple of questions so I can understand how it works.
First, in the initial startup settings pages, I chose to not run service in foreground, but if I did, I couldn't uncheck show notification icon. After initial setup, when I go into settings, run service in foreground was checked. But, over in those settings, I can disable the show notification icon. Seems like run service in foreground and no notification icon is my preferred solution, so I'll use that. Hopefully, that will keep the program from getting killed.
So, is this using cell tower information to determine that I'm near a known wifi hotspot?
What happens if I walk out of my house and lose the wifi connection for a couple of minutes and then I come back in and want to connect back to wifi. It seems like it will turn wifi off after 30 seconds because I was disconnected from my wifi hotstop. Will it turn wifi back on by itself again?
EDIT: Tested it and wifi does not come back on. So, then what logic makes it ever come back in? Do I have to go far enough away that smart wifi toggler thinks I'm out of range of my wifi and then come back in range?
Hopefully, there's a way to make that work better or that's probably a deal breaker for me.
The thing I don't like about Y5, which I think this fixes is if I turn off wifi while Y5 is running, it turns it right back on immediately. The only way to actually make wifi stay off if I'm in a known wifi hotspot is to disable Y5.
It'd be nice if there was a way that if I manually turn off wifi, it stays off, but if wifi just gets disconnected, it comes back on automatically.
What happens if I set wifi disconnection to 0? Will wifi still go off when I'm out of range (based on your cell tower information) of a known wifi hotspot?
Hi lexluthor. Thanks for trying out the app. Let me see if my answers can be useful:
lexluthor said:
First, in the initial startup settings pages, I chose to not run service in foreground, but if I did, I couldn't uncheck show notification icon. After initial setup, when I go into settings, run service in foreground was checked. But, over in those settings, I can disable the show notification icon. Seems like run service in foreground and no notification icon is my preferred solution, so I'll use that. Hopefully, that will keep the program from getting killed.
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As far as I know, android does not permit running in foreground mode without showing a notification. If I'm wrong here, I'd appreciate an example where this is not the case. If you choose to not run in foreground mode to avoid the icon, android will keep killing and restarting the service because of inactivity.
Do I understand correctly that you could disable the icon in foreground mode? If so, please make sure that whenever you check foreground mode, you have to restart the service so it can take effect. (It should show you a "service restart required" toast message).
So, is this using cell tower information to determine that I'm near a known wifi hotspot?
What happens if I walk out of my house and lose the wifi connection for a couple of minutes and then I come back in and want to connect back to wifi. It seems like it will turn wifi off after 30 seconds because I was disconnected from my wifi hotstop. Will it turn wifi back on by itself again?
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You are correct. It is using your cell location info. Just like you've observed, when wifi gets disconnected, the timer will start counting. On timeout, it will turn wifi off. Logically, there is no way the app can know if you are inside or outside. What it does do however, is the next time you wake the phone up from sleep (screen off then back on) it will enable wifi and wait for a connection. (I'm assuming here that you are connected to the same cell inside and outside of your house).
The only difference I can think of inside and outside your house is the signal strength. This is something I plan to experiment with to see how useful in can be to get even more accuracy.
The thing I don't like about Y5, which I think this fixes is if I turn off wifi while Y5 is running, it turns it right back on immediately. The only way to actually make wifi stay off if I'm in a known wifi hotspot is to disable Y5.
It'd be nice if there was a way that if I manually turn off wifi, it stays off, but if wifi just gets disconnected, it comes back on automatically.
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This is something I was experimenting with, but it made things complicated. How would the app know when to turn it on again automatically at a later time? Would you have to leave that location then come back? I guess this is something worth trying in future releases.
What happens if I set wifi disconnection to 0? Will wifi still go off when I'm out of range (based on your cell tower information) of a known wifi hotspot?
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Setting the disconnection timer to zero will disable auto-wifi-off. This means WiFi will be kept on.
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Hi lexluthor. Thanks for trying out the app. Let me see if my answers can be useful:
As far as I know, android does not permit running in foreground mode without showing a notification. If I'm wrong here, I'd appreciate an example where this is not the case. If you choose to not run in foreground mode to avoid the icon, android will keep killing and restarting the service because of inactivity.
Do I understand correctly that you could disable the icon in foreground mode? If so, please make sure that whenever you check foreground mode, you have to restart the service so it can take effect. (It should show you a "service restart required" toast message).
You are correct. It is using your cell location info. Just like you've observed, when wifi gets disconnected, the timer will start counting. On timeout, it will turn wifi off. Logically, there is no way the app can know if you are inside or outside. What it does do however, is the next time you wake the phone up from sleep (screen off then back on) it will enable wifi and wait for a connection. (I'm assuming here that you are connected to the same cell inside and outside of your house).
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I'll double check the service a little later. Right now, foreground mode is on, but I have no icon. I'll reboot and see if it remains that way. I'm probably wrong, but I thought you could have a foreground service in ICS with no icon.
Anyhow, no, wifi didn't come back on for me even after I turned the screen off/on. Your assumption that I'm connected to the same cell is probably wrong. In areas with a lot of cell towers, couldn't my phone connect to many different towers, even within my own house? Y5 says it has something like 30 towers remembered for me. Also, I know if I reset my Y5 data, even after a few days, there are times when I'm connected to wifi and connected to a cell tower that Y5 hasn't learned yet.
If your logic is that a wifi hotspot is associated with the cell tower that I'm connected to when I first connect to the wifi hotspot, that's going to be a problem if I can connect to many different towers while at that wifi hotstop.
Appreciate your responses so far. I'm just trying to help improve your program, not being critical in any way.
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I'll double check the service a little later. Right now, foreground mode is on, but I have no icon. I'll reboot and see if it remains that way. I'm probably wrong, but I thought you could have a foreground service in ICS with no icon.
Anyhow, no, wifi didn't come back on for me even after I turned the screen off/on. Your assumption that I'm connected to the same cell is probably wrong. In areas with a lot of cell towers, couldn't my phone connect to many different towers, even within my own house? Y5 says it has something like 30 towers remembered for me. Also, I know if I reset my Y5 data, even after a few days, there are times when I'm connected to wifi and connected to a cell tower that Y5 hasn't learned yet.
If your logic is that a wifi hotspot is associated with the cell tower that I'm connected to when I first connect to the wifi hotspot, that's going to be a problem if I can connect to many different towers while at that wifi hotstop.
Appreciate your responses so far. I'm just trying to help improve your program, not being critical in any way.
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If it didn't come back on, then you must have camped onto another cell. As I mention in the help section, if you're house is located in an area that keeps your phone hopping between cells, then Smart WiFi Toggler has to save all of them. It does in fact do that on every cell update whilst you're connected to a WiFi. This is the "learning curve" I mention in there. Once it has associated these cells with the hotspot, then you're good to go.
The thing I noticed about Y5 when I tried it today is that while I was standing in one location (inside an office -- with an inbuilding antenna system), it saved more than one cell for the hotspot. I felt this was excessive as it will make the auto-wifi-on window larger. Smart WiFi Toggler only saves the cell you are connected to. Not the neighbors. This has an initial disadvantage, but after that it's more efficient.
Anyway, I understand your concerns and your questions are all valid. I'm happy to answer all of them. In the end, you just have to try it and see if it works for you or not. I didn't have much audience to test the app with, but I'm fairly confident that 5 months of first hand testing and refining should make it a decent app.
Great. Your responses are helping me understand the app better note and i should be able to help test better.
Will give it a learning curve and keep an eye on it and will post later.
Ok. Looks like run in foreground and notification icon are now linked together. I turned run in foreground off as I don't like notification icons. I run that way with tasker and my phone has never closed out that service.
I'm still not seeing wifi ever come back on on it's own. I've turned wifi on and off a a few times in the hopes of it trying to remember more cells.
I see may cell location update received notices in the logs. When I toggle wifi on and off, I seem to always get cell already exists for this wifi entry in the log.
So, after I toggle wifi off and get that entry in the log, I put the phone to sleep, wait a few minutes, turn it back on and wifi still doesn't ever turn on.
Any idea what's going on?
I have a Verizon CDMA Samsung Galaxy S III running stock/rooted.
Hi please can someone help or has anyone came across a simular problem? I received my sw2 yesterday and followed all the installation procedures and upgrades to relevant software on my Sony xperia z1. All that happens now is the watch connects and disconnects every 10 seconds and will not stay connected for long periods of time. All the apps have uploaded to the watch emails Facebook etc but even those only work briefly until the bluetooth disconnects.
I have gone through all the settings on the phone and watch so am left thinking that there must be something wrong with either the phone or watch.
Thanks for your advice in advance.
I've had mine for 2 weeks and I've not had any problems. Are you running a custom ROM? Does bluetooth work on it if you are? Have connected anything else bluetooth to your phone?
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Hey,
Received my smartwatch 2 about a week ago, I rooted my phone shortly after that. 4 days later my sw2 starts running the same issue.
I believe it can only be one of 3 things:
-Software upgrade on the watch that currupted the bluetooth connection
-Rooting affected my watch connection to the phone
- I had installed facebook, wich now became almost impossible to uninstal due to the short period of time that i can maintain the watch connected.
If anyone has any solutions i would appreciate the help.
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If anyone has any solutions i would appreciate the help.
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Have you tried with a SW2 factory reset?
To perform a factory data reset:
From the Home screen, find and tap
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my phone loose connection with smartphone every few hours, but it connects back within seconds. annoying, but i couldn't find the reason for that.
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Have you tried with a SW2 factory reset?
To perform a factory data reset:
From the Home screen, find and tap.
Find and tap Reset SmartWatch.
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Hey,
Thanks for the tip had tried that before. Didn't work. Although I have now fixed the issue.
The problem with the smartwatch is that the apps are stored in your phone, but the notifications are not streamed to the watch but actually stored there. this causes the memory of the watch to be full and disconnect the watch from the phone (therefore the constant come out).
So to fix the issue:
- Disconnect your phones bluetooth
- Access the smartwatch app, and on FB and Twitter apps log out.
-reconect the bluetooth and quickly clear the history of all apps in the watch.
- You can log back into FB and Twitter but restrict the notifications to the minimum possible (e.g. when written on your wall, your idols tweets and your crush/loved/best-friend posts)
Every Friday remember to clear the history of your watches apps, to avoid this issue.
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Hey,
Thanks for the tip had tried that before. Didn't work. Although I have now fixed the issue.
The problem with the smartwatch is that the apps are stored in your phone, but the notifications are not streamed to the watch but actually stored there. this causes the memory of the watch to be full and disconnect the watch from the phone (therefore the constant come out).
So to fix the issue:
- Disconnect your phones bluetooth
- Access the smartwatch app, and on FB and Twitter apps log out.
-reconect the bluetooth and quickly clear the history of all apps in the watch.
- You can log back into FB and Twitter but restrict the notifications to the minimum possible (e.g. when written on your wall, your idols tweets and your crush/loved/best-friend posts)
Every Friday remember to clear the history of your watches apps, to avoid this issue.
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I did everything i read in this particular post. But nothing seems to work. Or maybe i am doing it wrong. But i cant find what is the problem.
Still facing connection issues with my z1
My son runs a new SW2 with a Samsung Galaxy Express and is experiencing frequent disconnects. But the SW2 app in the phone says it's connected. Turning Bluetooth off an on again makes the watch connect again. The watch is new and not filled up with notifications. The phone is all stock touchwiz and Android 4.1.2. Thanks for any help!
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Tuborg68 said:
My son runs a new SW2 with a Samsung Galaxy Express and is experiencing frequent disconnects. But the SW2 app in the phone says it's connected. Turning Bluetooth off an on again makes the watch connect again. The watch is new and not filled up with notifications. The phone is all stock touchwiz and Android 4.1.2. Thanks for any help!
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For those who are having the bluetooth connection issues, although the issue is not known completely (some say it is due to low watch memory issue and others say it is due to power management apks within high end gadgets resulting in switching the bluetooth connection off for every few seconds), there seems to be a fix and when I followed it, it is working perfectly fine. So the trick is
1. Find the Bluetooth Auto Connect free apk in the play store (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.myklos.btautoconnect) or from http://www.appsapk.com/bluetooth-auto-connect/
2. Install it and give sw2 a priority. Vola ! your problem resolves.
What this app does simply is to cling on to the bluetooth connected devices and for any reason they disconnect, this app will try to reconnect again immediately. This apk has a feature to disable bluetooth connection automatically after xx minutes of retries, which is awesome. SInce I installed this apk, I did not face any issues with it.
If I have helped you in anyway, please do hit the thanks button. Good luck.
Has anyone found a fix for this that really works. Got my ssw 2 yesterday. Worked fantastic without a problem until I went to bed turned my phone and smartwatch off to charge while I slept woke up and now it disconnects and connects every few seconds .If I can't fix the problem then will be taking it back to the shop it came from as pointless having it.. I've tried everything I can think of. Reset watch and phone. Cleared all app off and started again. Even tried the Bluetooth apps but still doing it
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I purchased my smartwatch 2 about a month ago, and use it with my Sony Xperia S. About a week ago I started to experience frequent disconnects. Then I tried to figure out what the problem was (obviously!). Then I started to realize that it only disconnected when I played online games. When I open the PlayStation app to remote play with my PS3 or play BTD battles it would disconnect. So I think the excessive amount of radiation coming to and from my phone over Wi-Fi and 3G gsm cell connection is the culprit. It is interesting to see that even new small Bluetooth electronics have the same problem. For example; Sony's new wireless earbuds WF-1000x constantly connect and disconnect in crowded areas where there are is a lot of wireless activity. Sony claims to have fixed the problem with firmware updates....... I'm not an engineer, but I think this is probably just something we have to live with. At least until the smartwatch 4 comes out :angel:
Hey everyone! I hope you all had a good start into the new year!
Please allow me to introduce to you my new app - WiFi Better Battery. Its primary functionality lies within decreasing battery usage of WiFi and getting some security into Android's WiFi.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.minudev.wifipowersave
It saves battery by making sure WiFi is only on when needed. When you leave the range of your (for example) home WiFi, your device's WiFi module is turned off after a short delay (to make up for connection hiccups). When you reenter the range, you will quickly be reconnected.
Optionally, the app comes with a MAC checking feature to actually get some security into Android's WiFi system. By default, Android only checks the name of the network. That means that if any network has the same name, Android automatically connects to it, including sending the network password to this probably malicious router. Not to mention the dangers coming from being connected to a malicious WiFi. The MAC check tries to make sure the network is actually who it seems to be.
The app does have in-app purchases, but those are only for donations and to deactivate ads. The full functionality is completely free.
QR code for easy download:
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Please say. Is GPS should be always on? Or you track the location in some other way?
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Sounds a really good idea hope it works well. I'll give it a try and leave some feedback
Thanks for this great app =D
Not trying to discredit your work or anything, but how does this work differently to the other alternatives out there?
As far as I'm aware, most apps use GPS locations to pin-point where you are and enable/disable functions. You mentioned that if you're out of the WiFi range then it turns off automatically. How does it detect you're within range to automatically turn back on then?
Hey!
It does not use location, nor does it require the permission to access your location.
What it does: Every x minutes (that's a setting) it activates your WiFi module into a low-power state to only scan for networks. If any networks that you entered before are found, the WiFi module is powered up and it connects to the network. Otherwise, it turns it off again.
Hope that clears things up, if not, feel free to ask more questions!
Have a nice day!
Ahh I see, thanks for clearing that up!
Would we be able to adjust the WiFi scanning period? What is the actual "X" minutes? You see, my mom uses WiFi heaps on her phone for stuff like Facebook etc......but it drains her battery easily, so I was trying to find ways to decrease the battery drain for her. I was looking at things like Tasker or whatnot, but then I saw this today and it looks like a simple and easy option. If I could adjust the scanning threshold/period to e.g. 10 or 15 minutes then that would be nice.
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Ahh I see, thanks for clearing that up!
Would we be able to adjust the WiFi scanning period? What is the actual "X" minutes? You see, my mom uses WiFi heaps on her phone for stuff like Facebook etc......but it drains her battery easily, so I was trying to find ways to decrease the battery drain for her. I was looking at things like Tasker or whatnot, but then I saw this today and it looks like a simple and easy option. If I could adjust the scanning threshold/period to e.g. 10 or 15 minutes then that would be nice.
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Look in the settings you can set the interval to what you want. The default is 2 mins
Thanks for helping out, sawdoctor!
By the way: While WiFi is connected, it does NOT scan to further save battery.
I'm not 100% convinced that this will increase battery life since I have a habit of manually turning wifi on/off as I need to. But I'm intrigued by the MAC check. Looking forward to seeing how this develops.
perhaps you can add a feature that allow user to turn on/off wifi at specific time interval instead of 24/7
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perhaps you can add a feature that allow user to turn on/off wifi at specific time interval instead of 24/7
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I'm honestly not sure why that would be needed - that WiFi isn't on 24/7 is the whole point of my app.
Or did you mean controlling the interval of the automated checks? There's a setting for that.
Hmmm...or did you mean controlling at what times WiFi Better Battery automates WiFi connections?
So what you are saying is that I don't need to remember to turn off my wifi? I'm in!
I'll check on the battery usage and let you know if I notice anything...
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I'm honestly not sure why that would be needed - that WiFi isn't on 24/7 is the whole point of my app.
Or did you mean controlling the interval of the automated checks? There's a setting for that.
Hmmm...or did you mean controlling at what times WiFi Better Battery automates WiFi connections?
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the latter 1
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the latter 1
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It's definitely possible, though I honestly don't see yet what this would be useful for. When would you like to disable the automated features and why? I'm not saying I won't implement it, I just want to find the best way possible.
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Hey everyone! I hope you all had a good start into the new year!
Please allow me to introduce to you my new app - WiFi Better Battery. Its primary functionality lies within decreasing battery usage of WiFi and getting some security into Android's WiFi.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.minudev.wifipowersave
Maybe a mod would be so kind to convert that into a link, I'm not allowed to post external links yet unfortunately.
It saves battery by making sure WiFi is only on when needed. When you leave the range of your (for example) home WiFi, your device's WiFi module is turned off after a short delay (to make up for connection hiccups). When you reenter the range, you will quickly be reconnected.
Optionally, the app comes with a MAC checking feature to actually get some security into Android's WiFi system. By default, Android only checks the name of the network. That means that if any network has the same name, Android automatically connects to it, including sending the network password to this probably malicious router. Not to mention the dangers coming from being connected to a malicious WiFi. The MAC check tries to make sure the network is actually who it seems to be.
The app does have in-app purchases, but those are only for donations and to deactivate ads. The full functionality is completely free.
I'm looking forward to any feedback you may have for me and would be very grateful for it. Thanks in advance!
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I'll definitely have to try this. Combined with Cataclysm's smart radio option, this could be a real winner.
huei92 said:
perhaps you can add a feature that allow user to turn on/off wifi at specific time interval instead of 24/7
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I think this would make the app unnecessarily complex. The app presumably saves battery power by reducing the frequency of wifi scans, no need to bloat it beyond that. Tasker already allows such granular control of processes, among other options for those who want it. However, I do think a good alternative would be a push button widget to force wifi scan, that way when you come within range of a familiar wifi network you could scan and connect with one touch.
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a push button widget to force wifi scan, that way when you come within range of a familiar wifi network you could scan and connect with one touch.
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Now that's part-of-the-next-update material! Thank you!
huei92, I'd still like to make sure you're satisfied though, so if you could tell me why you need that feature, I'm sure we can come up with a good solution
EDIT: Ha! I'm so tired of run of the mill apps getting featured that I asked the following without installing. Installed and answered all my own questions, kind of embarrassing. Great app, I'm about to buy the add free/donation purchase. It would be great to have Tasker integration for disabling and enabling the service process for when my WiFi goes down but in addition to some of my own unique uses of the phone. I've worked around everything and it was worth it. I hope you cash in really well before Google rips off your idea in a future update.
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Does this require "scanning always available" to be off? I would presume that since its just listening in this mode that the phone's stored login settings aren't being sent but I'm no expert here. In my scenario, scanning always available is set on when I'm not at home but wifi is off and notification of open networks is off.
Essentially, can I use this app with those settings and still have a wifi near profile in Tasker?
Also, is your app depending upon "scanning always available" in the wifi settings or is it running its own separate service for this, and if it is a separate service, is there a Tasker plugin similar to wifi near in the future?
what the different between this and interval wifi scan time in build.prop?
Sounds like a great app. Will try it. Thanks.
I WAS getting Gmail notifications on my standalone S3 Frontier and now I'm not. I have been playing with BT to try and improve battery life so that may have impacted. Currently I have BT OFF on the watch, ON on the phone and cannot get email notification. And gmail notofications are ON in the app. Just in case. Any ideas?
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I WAS getting Gmail notifications on my standalone S3 Frontier and now I'm not. I have been playing with BT to try and improve battery life so that may have impacted. Currently I have BT OFF on the watch, ON on the phone and cannot get email notification. And gmail notofications are ON in the app. Just in case. Any ideas?
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Is the phone displaying the "Remotely Connected" status on Gear Manager App?
Also LTE is a battery hog compared to Bluetooth, using Bluetooth seems to be a better option according to me.:good:
No Remotely Connected. Just Stand Alone. Does Remotely Connected come on when in BT but separated from phone?
OK. NOW it says Remotely Connected for some reason. I tried various combinations of BT and physically left my phone behind and I guess whatever the most recent one was worked. Wish I'd kept notes.
And now it does NOT say Remotely Connected. Got any idea how this is supposed to work? BT and WiFi are off on the watch.
That is the general question.
I'm the owner of Galaxy Watch 4 LTE. Samsung disabled the possibility to locate the watch by GPS from March 2021. So if You lost Your watch, You must buy new one. Brilliant.
When I'm trying to locate the watch by Google I have info "Location disabled". If is disabled, must be something "false" in Wear OS made with cooperation with genius from Samsung.
The question is, where and how using ADB change the option and allow to locate the watch by Google?
Have you tried with Samsung "Find My Mobile"?
Find My Mobile
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Have you tried with Samsung "Find My Mobile"?
Find My Mobile
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Find my mobile is disabled for watches. You can't register Watch. The system didn't recognize the watch.
Samsung told me that everything is ok - no possibility to location the watch by GPS. New policy of Samsung from March 2021.
Sounds ridiculous? It is reality.
Watch4user said:
Find my mobile is disabled for watches. You can't register Watch. The system didn't recognize the watch.
Samsung told me that everything is ok - no possibility to location the watch by GPS. New policy of Samsung from March 2021.
Sounds ridiculous? It is reality.
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Working for me normally... View attachment 5428133
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Please disconnect watch from the smartphone, I mean, turn off Bluetooth and WIFI on smartphone and Watch. Leave only LTE on Watch, and then check again.
Watch4user said:
Please disconnect watch from the smartphone, I mean, turn off Bluetooth and WIFI on smartphone and Watch. Leave only LTE on Watch, and then check again.
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It seems to find it yes, it says online. BT+WiFi off on watch. LTE on, I have separate data plan on the watch
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It seems to find it yes, it says online. BT+WiFi off on watch. LTE on, I have separate data plan on the watch
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How You did that?
- a spent 7 hours in previous few days with Samsung support, result: "We apologize but...it is not possible"
- XDA said the same: https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-get-location-service-shutdown/
and now You, like a superhero on a white horse, show us something impossible.
I will ask again, how it is possible? What You did? What do You know more than Samsung official support know?
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How You did that?
- a spent 7 hours in previous few days with Samsung support, result: "We apologize but...it is not possible"
- XDA said the same: https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-get-location-service-shutdown/
and now You, like a superhero on a white horse, show us something impossible.
I will ask again, how it is possible? What You did? What do You know more than Samsung official support know?
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Maybe it's just showing it online and the location but its wrong? I cannot verify as I am wearing it currently and I am working, but I can test it and leave it somewhere then check the location again maybe....
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Maybe it's just showing it online and the location but its wrong? I cannot verify as I am wearing it currently and I am working, but I can test it and leave it somewhere then check the location again maybe....
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No, I don't think so. You know where You are, and if Watch showing near location it will work ok. You are disconnected all things like BT and WIFI. There is no way to get Your watch location in other way like by LTE and GPS. Of course BTS can alsodo that, but that feature is not for "normal user" but for Police.
I`m going on war with Samsung. Incompetence of all Samsung support is shocking, but like You see XDA with article said the same. You are special or everyone include me, XDA and Samsung are wrong.
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No, I don't think so. You know where You are, and if Watch showing near location it will work ok. You are disconnected all things like BT and WIFI. There is no way to get Your watch location in other way like by LTE and GPS. Of course BTS can alsodo that, but that feature is not for "normal user" but for Police.
I`m going on war with Samsung. Incompetence of all Samsung support is shocking, but like You see XDA with article said the same. You are special or everyone include me, XDA and Samsung are wrong.
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Hello, I just tested. In watch under location I have enabled location and improve accuracy. If I have BT and WiFi disabled on the watch but LTE on phone and watch on. These are my settings and it found watch. Maybe it needs remote mobile connection to find it: Maybe findmymobile sends request to mobile, then mobile sends request to watch. Try with LTE enabled on mobile.
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Hello, I just tested. In watch under location I have enabled location and improve accuracy. If I have BT and WiFi disabled on the watch but LTE on phone and watch on. These are my settings and it found watch. Maybe it needs remote mobile connection to find it: Maybe findmymobile sends request to mobile, then mobile sends request to watch. Try with LTE enabled on mobile.
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Just disable LTE, WIFI, BT on mobile. Take Your laptop, go to findmymobile and check then.
Connection between mobile and then from mobile to the watch is completely ridiculous.
How will You find Your watch anywhere in the city after lost? You will walk around with Your phone, to establish connection between Your smartphone and watch, and then You will be able to check location of the watch?))
Watch4user said:
Just disable LTE, WIFI, BT on mobile. Take Your laptop, go to findmymobile and check then.
Connection between mobile and then from mobile to the watch is completely ridiculous.
How will You find Your watch anywhere in the city after lost? You will walk around with Your phone, to establish connection between Your smartphone and watch, and then You will be able to check location of the watch?))
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I always have all (lte, wifi and BT) enabled on my phone so why would I need to find the watch without all of this and without the phone? If I loose the watch I will look for it with my phone. I will not be running around the city with my laptop and wifi hotspot but I will open findmymobile on my phone (Chrome Browser) and look for the watch there. If I leave my phone at home and I only have the watch which gets stolen when I go swimming I will ask a friend to borrow his phone and I will open findmymobile on his phone to access location of the watch. If phone and watch get stolen I will open findmymobile on friends phone and access location of phone and watch. Thief cannot disable connections (lte, wifi, bt) on phone or watch because of pattern/password protection
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I always have all (lte, wifi and BT) enabled on my phone so why would I need to find the watch without all of this and without the phone? If I loose the watch I will look for it with my phone. I will not be running around the city with my laptop and wifi hotspot but I will open findmymobile on my phone (Chrome Browser) and look for the watch there. If I leave my phone at home and I only have the watch which gets stolen when I go swimming I will ask a friend to borrow his phone and I will open findmymobile on his phone to access location of the watch. If phone and watch get stolen I will open findmymobile on friends phone and access location of phone and watch. Thief cannot disable connections (lte, wifi, bt) on phone or watch because of pattern/password protection
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Hehe That was of course a joke about running around the city
In one sentence, You can track Your watch from anywhere, by any device. Just login on findmymobile.
This is a miracle.
Only one thing is different between You and me. You are using Samsung smartphone for paring and operating by Galaxy Wearable. I'm using Xiaomi Redmi. But no one, never, include whole Samsung support didn't say "You must have Samsung smartphone for first pairing and approve all necessary agreements to ALLOW in the future to localize Your watch through findmymobile".
I have for You the last question, Could You check where is Your watch by the Google "find my device"? Wear OS support that, so it should be possible. When I try to do that, I get an info "Location disabled". So WearOS on Watch 4, "Made in Samsung" have disabled that option in of course my case. I wonder that You will be able to use Google to do that, or only by Samsung findmymobile.
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Hehe That was of course a joke about running around the city
In one sentence, You can track Your watch from anywhere, by any device. Just login on findmymobile.
This is a miracle.
Only one thing is different between You and me. You are using Samsung smartphone for paring and operating by Galaxy Wearable. I'm using Xiaomi Redmi. But no one, never, include whole Samsung support didn't say "You must have Samsung smartphone for first pairing and approve all necessary agreements to ALLOW in the future to localize Your watch through findmymobile".
I have for You the last question, Could You check where is Your watch by the Google "find my device"? Wear OS support that, so it should be possible. When I try to do that, I get an info "Location disabled". So WearOS on Watch 4, "Made in Samsung" have disabled that option in of course my case. I wonder that You will be able to use Google to do that, or only by Samsung findmymobile.
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I think this is the issue yes, I've read many times a lot of features are not working if users don't have Samsung phones... I'm using Galaxy S21 Ultra. Findmymobile unfortunately does not work, it says watch is offline. Then I go into Samsung website and I can locate it without problems. Same settings.
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I think this is the issue yes, I've read many times a lot of features are not working if users don't have Samsung phones... I'm using Galaxy S21 Ultra. Findmymobile unfortunately does not work, it says watch is offline. Then I go into Samsung website and I can locate it without problems. Same settings.
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But Your screen from today was from findmymobile?
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But Your screen from today was from findmymobile?
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From samsung site
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From samsung site
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Could You show me where on samsung site You can chceck location?
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Could You show me where on samsung site You can chceck location?
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Find My Mobile
findmymobile.samsung.com
Hej...
You can locate your watch without problem on the Samsung site or Via Smart Thing...Besides this even if watch, location etc is off it will shown last known location...When in april I left my watch in the Samsung Service Center location was shown and describes then my watch was visible and discovered by the near Samsung devices...
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How You did that?
- a spent 7 hours in previous few days with Samsung support, result: "We apologize but...it is not possible"
- XDA said the same: https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-get-location-service-shutdown/
and now You, like a superhero on a white horse, show us something impossible.
I will ask again, how it is possible? What You did? What do You know more than Samsung official support know?
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Hej...
That's is not quite truth what is written in that article...I know that from my own experience when i was able to locate my watch not so long ago, even if was many kilometers away from the watch...
Even now...im connected with my watch via lte and in the other part of the city and still can be found on the Samsung site and via Smart Things...