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Quick WiFi Switcher is an app to quickly switch between your (configured) APs.
This is useful, when you're in an area where more than one configured AP is available. Sometimes Android decides to switch between them for different (unknown to me) reasons. Reconnection to the AP of your choice is now fewer clicks away than through the settings.
You start it by long-pressing your search button, or via shortcut.
Info shown on top:
Current SSID
Current IP
Current Signal (bar and RSSI)
In the selection list you have the following info:
SSID
Signal strength (Icon and RSSI)
Encryption settings
Configuration state (Green -> configured, Red -> unconfigured)
Connection state (connected AP is selected in the list)
The list contains all discoverable APs in range.
The following functions are implemented to date:
Enable/Disable WiFI
Scan for surrounding APs (automatically on startup / manually via button)
Connect to previously configured AP
Reconnect current AP
Open WiFi Settings for unconfigured APs (for now)
User Setting for closing on selection
Widgets
There are two widgets implemented for now:
Info Widget (1x2)
Switcher Widget (1x1)
The Info Widget shows information about the currently connected network:
SSID
IP-Address
signal level (RSSI and Icon)
For the Switcher Widget you have to choose a configured network. This will be monitored. Whenever the system scans for APs, the widget will update itself with the current info about the chosen network.
A network in range has a signal level icon
If the network is the current one, the text will be gray, else red
Touching the widget will automatically connect to the chosen AP
Changelog
Version 0.6
support for Eclair (2.1) added
widgets added
Version 0.5
Initial Version
Android 2.2 is needed for now, will check if 2.1 is possible.
Android 2.1+ is needed.
Screenshots
INFO:
If you downloaded Version 0.6 before and can't install, please redownload. The manifest error has been fixed.
Hi,
I'd really appreciate any feedback.
Tell me what you think, what you like/dislike and what is missing...
slow23
I would really love tasker integration. I have 2 wireless networks at home, a public one, and a backup one. I have to remember to switch ssid at night so the phone can do it's rsync thing. Programatically selecting the right said at the right time would be hugely beneficial.
Hi,
looks nice.
What do you think about checking every configurable seconds if a better known Wifi is available and switch then automatically?
Have 2 routers at home, android does not switch automatically even if its the same ssid. Tried with different ssid too, android doesnt switch. You have to manually reconnect, then it takes the better one.
just DL'ed your apk-file, upon install, it says (in details view of app manager): Could not open as apk file.
When I click your QR code link in the topic, there's nothing there either...
slow23 said:
Quick WiFi Switcher is an app to quickly switch between your (configured) APs.
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Nice app..just what I was looking for. As for my two cents, I think it would be great to create widgets assigned to particular ssids that can be shown on the home screen. This would prove to be a quick way to select the ssids.
slow23 said:
Quick WiFi Switcher is an app to quickly switch between your (configured) APs.
This is useful, when you're in an area where more than one configured AP is available. Sometimes Android decides to switch between them for different (unknown to me) reasons. Reconnection to the AP of your choice is now fewer clicks away than through the settings.
You start it by long-pressing your search button, or via shortcut.
Info shown on top:
Current SSID
Current IP
Current Signal (bar and RSSI)
In the selection list you have the following info:
SSID
Signal strength (Icon and RSSI)
Encryption settings
Configuration state (Green -> configured, Red -> unconfigured)
Connection state (connected AP is selected in the list)
The list contains all discoverable APs in range.
The following functions are implemented to date:
Enable/Disable WiFI
Scan for surrounding APs (automatically on startup / manually via button)
Connect to previously configured AP
Reconnect current AP
Open WiFi Settings for unconfigured APs (for now)
User Setting for closing on selection
The initial version is 0.5.
Screenshots
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Nice tool ..
bodger_uk said:
I would really love tasker integration. I have 2 wireless networks at home, a public one, and a backup one. I have to remember to switch ssid at night so the phone can do it's rsync thing. Programatically selecting the right said at the right time would be hugely beneficial.
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I'll look into it, but I'm not familiar with tasker integration for now. Consider it listed.
walda said:
Hi,
looks nice.
What do you think about checking every configurable seconds if a better known Wifi is available and switch then automatically?
Have 2 routers at home, android does not switch automatically even if its the same ssid. Tried with different ssid too, android doesnt switch. You have to manually reconnect, then it takes the better one.
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This is the feature I intended to implement, but for the beginning I chose the manual approach. Surely will be done...
hdurina said:
Nice app..just what I was looking for. As for my two cents, I think it would be great to create widgets assigned to particular ssids that can be shown on the home screen. This would prove to be a quick way to select the ssids.
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Also a thing I already thought about. No Widgets done so far, but shouldn't be that hard.
Wobstar said:
just DL'ed your apk-file, upon install, it says (in details view of app manager): Could not open as apk file.
When I click your QR code link in the topic, there's nothing there either...
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Did you try to d/l from my site? I just downloaded and everything was fine. The QR-Code is not from me, but the new killer feature of xda. Please report if d/l from my site worked. We'll have to find another way if it does not. BTW I sometimes face the issue that I'm not able to open apk's from the browser download notification, but only from a file explorer (but that may be my ROM). Did not find out a pattern in this though.
@all: Thanks for the feedback. Good to see that there is demand and the needed functions are mainly those I initially thougth of.
slow23
Good work mate, im not near Wi-Fi so cant test right now but will tomorrow hopefullly,im using Galaxy S2.
This is exactly what I need.
I have 2 routers at home too and I can be sitting 2 feet from one but my phone still hangs on to the weaker of the two.
As mentioned above it would be great if it could be configured to switch to the strongest authorised access point automatically.
Downloading now and will report my findings.
OK. Problems here.
Desire S, S-Off, Rooted, running Virtuous Unity 1.29.
First issue I noticed was that as soon as I installed it I couldn't access any of my access points in the house.
It was finding them but wouldn't connect even if was sitting right beside it.
The next problem I had was constant forced closures. Almost every app that I opened would force close.
Now I understand that both of these could[/c] be rom issues, since this is a new revision, but seeing as both happened right after installing your app I suspect it's not.
Both of these issues happened as soon as I used you app.
slow23 said:
Did you try to d/l from my site? I just downloaded and everything was fine. The QR-Code is not from me, but the new killer feature of xda. Please report if d/l from my site worked. We'll have to find another way if it does not. BTW I sometimes face the issue that I'm not able to open apk's from the browser download notification, but only from a file explorer (but that may be my ROM). Did not find out a pattern in this though.
@all: Thanks for the feedback. Good to see that there is demand and the needed functions are mainly those I initially thougth of.
slow23
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I tried to download from your site, but get the same issue.
I downloaded directly from my Android browser and once from my computer and transferred to the phone.
I'm on stock 2.1 ROM (rooted)
stonedandhappy said:
OK. Problems here.
Desire S, S-Off, Rooted, running Virtuous Unity 1.29.
First issue I noticed was that as soon as I installed it I couldn't access any of my access points in the house.
It was finding them but wouldn't connect even if was sitting right beside it.
The next problem I had was constant forced closures. Almost every app that I opened would force close.
Now I understand that both of these could[/c] be rom issues, since this is a new revision, but seeing as both happened right after installing your app I suspect it's not.
Both of these issues happened as soon as I used you app.
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Wow, that sounds bad. Could you send me a logcat of when this happens. I can't really imagine any function of the app cause such trouble, but I will look into it, why it would not connect.
The force closes cannot come from the app, since it does nothing to the system aside scanning wifi APs and connecting to them. Maybe it's really ROM related.
Wobstar said:
I tried to download from your site, but get the same issue.
I downloaded directly from my Android browser and once from my computer and transferred to the phone.
I'm on stock 2.1 ROM (rooted)
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First of all, what device are you using.
Second, the app has a min sdk level of 8, so Froyo is required, will update first post to reflect that. I 'll see if I can get it running on Eclair.
slow23 said:
First of all, what device are you using.
Second, the app has a min sdk level of 8, so Froyo is required, will update first post to reflect that. I 'll see if I can get it running on Eclair.
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I'm using an Xperia X10, I suspected that it would be due to OS compatibility.
That's why I asked in my first reply.
slow23 said:
Wow, that sounds bad. Could you send me a logcat of when this happens. I can't really imagine any function of the app cause such trouble, but I will look into it, why it would not connect.
The force closes cannot come from the app, since it does nothing to the system aside scanning wifi APs and connecting to them. Maybe it's really ROM related.
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OK, for some reason the app seems top have changed my wireless security on the phone to WPA instead of WEP, so the phone was trying to connect with the wrong security protocol.
Managed to sort that out pretty easily once I knew what was wrong.
I still had terrible problems with FCing apps so resorted to reflashing my rom.
I'm going to give it another try and if I encounter any issues I'll let you know what happens and post a log.
OK, here is a little update.
Since I reflashed my rom and reinstalled the app it has worked fine.
Only 1 minor bug but it wan't a problem.
On a few occasions when I used it yesterday, rather than opening the app GUI when pressed, it took me straight to the android wifi configuration page.
It only happened on a few occasions and hasn't happened at all today but I thought that you should know. Didn't bother me but someone will surely have issues with it.
Anyway, thanks for a great addition to my Desire S
stonedandhappy said:
OK, here is a little update.
Since I reflashed my rom and reinstalled the app it has worked fine.
Only 1 minor bug but it wan't a problem.
On a few occasions when I used it yesterday, rather than opening the app GUI when pressed, it took me straight to the android wifi configuration page.
It only happened on a few occasions and hasn't happened at all today but I thought that you should know. Didn't bother me but someone will surely have issues with it.
Anyway, thanks for a great addition to my Desire S
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Good to hear your Rom is working correctly again.
For the error you got: Did you start the app via search key? I could imagine since the desire s has no hardware buttons you accidently selected an unknown AP, immediately after the app started.
Would you be so kind and try and verify that?
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
No, I have it on my home page so that if I need to change AP I just press my home button to get to it.
My wifi only picks up my 2 APs and none of my neighbours so no chance of selecting an unknown AP.
As I said it only happened a few times and hasn't happened since. It's working great now.
I don't know if, because I let my phone fully discharge yesterday after it happened, that it may have reset the app. A sort of reboot.
It has been working fine since though.
I've yet to try it with public wifi but should get a chance at the weekend so will post my results for you.
Hi,
back from vacation. New version with widgets and Eclair support.
Version 0.6
support for Eclair (2.1) added
widgets added
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hello im having a big probelm and need help!
i tried many things to do and nothing works.
Let me explain all the things I've learned. First of all, the problem only occurs on my home wireless network and not at other locations. Sometimes whem someone wants to send me a message I get it delayied between two to 30 minutes. This does not happen when I'm a regular Internet connection. In addition,when i open the app it takes it about 30 seconds to connect and to start sending the messages i tayped message (message waiting with a form of alarm).
I checked the problem in six different phones and it occurs on evrey android that i tried (S2 S3), but not on iphones.
I redefined the home network, I changed my router and modem and still nothing has changed (but not the companies that give me this servises)
All Android-based mobile I use experienced this problem so there is no issue with the device itself or the application download.
help me becuse i am getting crazyyyyyyyyy
uninstal ur whatsup and instal again..or check maybe whatsup need update..:good:
rybrosp consider
irul77 said:
uninstal ur whatsup and instal again..or check maybe whatsup need update..:good:
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u realy think that i didnt do that??!!
darkred012 said:
u realy think that i didnt do that??!!
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are u done try for direfent phone a android phone..
Given the scenario you have given;-
1) Your phone works fine for WhatsApp everywhere else
2) Other phones have problems with WhatsApp at your home
3) You've changed the network, router and modem
There is only one possible cause - your ISP must be throttling the WhatsApp data stream for some reason.
You didn't say what happens if you use your device on a different wifi network.
darkred012 said:
First of all, the problem only occurs on my home wireless network and not at other locations.
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post-mortem said:
You didn't say what happens if you use your device on a different wifi network.
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I took that to mean it worked fine on other WiFi networks. Maybe I shouldn't have made that assumption.
SimonTS said:
I took that to mean it worked fine on other WiFi networks. Maybe I shouldn't have made that assumption.
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Your ISP is doing deep packet inspection delaying the Whatsup messages ?
kalman5 said:
Your ISP is doing deep packet inspection delaying the Whatsup messages ?
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If all the other statements are correct then the only thing left which could cause the problem is his ISP - whether it is deliberate throttling or not is a different matter.
didnt work
i changed the company, which is my isp, to another one yestarday - didnt work
the thing is that i noticed that it is not only whatsapp that delayed, but evrey app - facebook email.......
so the problem is not specific with whatsapp, but the all push serives
on over networks he works fine, when i had an iphone (until 3 weeks ago) this never happend
i dont know what to d' and im geting crazyyyyyy
darkred012 said:
i changed the company, which is my isp, to another one yestarday - didnt work
the thing is that i noticed that it is not only whatsapp that delayed, but evrey app - facebook email.......
so the problem is not specific with whatsapp, but the all push serives
on over networks he works fine, when i had an iphone (until 3 weeks ago) this never happend
i dont know what to d' and im geting crazyyyyyy
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I'm still trying to understand exactly when this happens. Do you get this problem with delays on other WiFi networks?
SimonTS said:
I'm still trying to understand exactly when this happens. Do you get this problem with delays on other WiFi networks?
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no only at my homenetwork
It's clearly a networking issue, and my prime suspect is your router's settings.
Do this for a trial: Completely erase all settings in your router (hold down the reset button for 10 seconds, or whatever). Then do just the bare minimum setup in the router's settings, no password, no IP reservation, no port forwarding, no nothing. Then, see if the problem persists.
post-mortem said:
It's clearly a networking issue, and my prime suspect is your router's settings.
Do this for a trial: Completely erase all settings in your router (hold down the reset button for 10 seconds, or whatever). Then do just the bare minimum setup in the router's settings, no password, no IP reservation, no port forwarding, no nothing. Then, see if the problem persists.
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If that works then I will swear loudly at the OP because he previously stated;-
darkred012 said:
I changed my router and modem and still nothing has changed
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Yeah, something's fishy. I'm guessing he swapped his physical router for another one, but set up all kinds of routing features which are messing with his phone.
If he comes back and says he's only got 1 computer and 1 phone, and never changed any settings but the SSID and added WPA, then I'm out of ideas.
post-mortem said:
Yeah, something's fishy. I'm guessing he swapped his physical router for another one, but set up all kinds of routing features which are messing with his phone.
If he comes back and says he's only got 1 computer and 1 phone, and never changed any settings but the SSID and added WPA, then I'm out of ideas.
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I have to admit that a couple of times I've found myself wondering ...
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hi
first of all i didnt do any configuring with the router exepat a pasword
at first i used what the company calles a HOTBOks (the name of the internet company is hot) it is a a device which is a phone line + modem + router
i thougt maybe the problem came from there, so i canceld the built in wiifii any did it "private" by conacting to a EDIMAX router - only put the CD install ps and thats it - didnt work
i changed the ISP for my home - still didnt work....
at my gf house, she has the same hotbok and no problems whatsoever.....
Take your hotboks or router to your girlfriend's house, and see if your phone works there. If not, then the problem is in your house/router.
i dont think it is posibble to do that......
i have no idea what to do - only going back to the very limited world of iphone bahhhh
My money's on your gateway/router being the source of the problem.
Hey everyone! I hope you all had a good start into the new year!
Please allow me to introduce to you my new app - WiFi Better Battery. Its primary functionality lies within decreasing battery usage of WiFi and getting some security into Android's WiFi.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.minudev.wifipowersave
It saves battery by making sure WiFi is only on when needed. When you leave the range of your (for example) home WiFi, your device's WiFi module is turned off after a short delay (to make up for connection hiccups). When you reenter the range, you will quickly be reconnected.
Optionally, the app comes with a MAC checking feature to actually get some security into Android's WiFi system. By default, Android only checks the name of the network. That means that if any network has the same name, Android automatically connects to it, including sending the network password to this probably malicious router. Not to mention the dangers coming from being connected to a malicious WiFi. The MAC check tries to make sure the network is actually who it seems to be.
The app does have in-app purchases, but those are only for donations and to deactivate ads. The full functionality is completely free.
QR code for easy download:
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Hello.
Please say. Is GPS should be always on? Or you track the location in some other way?
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Sounds a really good idea hope it works well. I'll give it a try and leave some feedback
Thanks for this great app =D
Not trying to discredit your work or anything, but how does this work differently to the other alternatives out there?
As far as I'm aware, most apps use GPS locations to pin-point where you are and enable/disable functions. You mentioned that if you're out of the WiFi range then it turns off automatically. How does it detect you're within range to automatically turn back on then?
Hey!
It does not use location, nor does it require the permission to access your location.
What it does: Every x minutes (that's a setting) it activates your WiFi module into a low-power state to only scan for networks. If any networks that you entered before are found, the WiFi module is powered up and it connects to the network. Otherwise, it turns it off again.
Hope that clears things up, if not, feel free to ask more questions!
Have a nice day!
Ahh I see, thanks for clearing that up!
Would we be able to adjust the WiFi scanning period? What is the actual "X" minutes? You see, my mom uses WiFi heaps on her phone for stuff like Facebook etc......but it drains her battery easily, so I was trying to find ways to decrease the battery drain for her. I was looking at things like Tasker or whatnot, but then I saw this today and it looks like a simple and easy option. If I could adjust the scanning threshold/period to e.g. 10 or 15 minutes then that would be nice.
chaoscreater said:
Ahh I see, thanks for clearing that up!
Would we be able to adjust the WiFi scanning period? What is the actual "X" minutes? You see, my mom uses WiFi heaps on her phone for stuff like Facebook etc......but it drains her battery easily, so I was trying to find ways to decrease the battery drain for her. I was looking at things like Tasker or whatnot, but then I saw this today and it looks like a simple and easy option. If I could adjust the scanning threshold/period to e.g. 10 or 15 minutes then that would be nice.
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Look in the settings you can set the interval to what you want. The default is 2 mins
Thanks for helping out, sawdoctor!
By the way: While WiFi is connected, it does NOT scan to further save battery.
I'm not 100% convinced that this will increase battery life since I have a habit of manually turning wifi on/off as I need to. But I'm intrigued by the MAC check. Looking forward to seeing how this develops.
perhaps you can add a feature that allow user to turn on/off wifi at specific time interval instead of 24/7
huei92 said:
perhaps you can add a feature that allow user to turn on/off wifi at specific time interval instead of 24/7
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I'm honestly not sure why that would be needed - that WiFi isn't on 24/7 is the whole point of my app.
Or did you mean controlling the interval of the automated checks? There's a setting for that.
Hmmm...or did you mean controlling at what times WiFi Better Battery automates WiFi connections?
So what you are saying is that I don't need to remember to turn off my wifi? I'm in!
I'll check on the battery usage and let you know if I notice anything...
Xenon O said:
I'm honestly not sure why that would be needed - that WiFi isn't on 24/7 is the whole point of my app.
Or did you mean controlling the interval of the automated checks? There's a setting for that.
Hmmm...or did you mean controlling at what times WiFi Better Battery automates WiFi connections?
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the latter 1
huei92 said:
the latter 1
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It's definitely possible, though I honestly don't see yet what this would be useful for. When would you like to disable the automated features and why? I'm not saying I won't implement it, I just want to find the best way possible.
Xenon O said:
Hey everyone! I hope you all had a good start into the new year!
Please allow me to introduce to you my new app - WiFi Better Battery. Its primary functionality lies within decreasing battery usage of WiFi and getting some security into Android's WiFi.
Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.minudev.wifipowersave
Maybe a mod would be so kind to convert that into a link, I'm not allowed to post external links yet unfortunately.
It saves battery by making sure WiFi is only on when needed. When you leave the range of your (for example) home WiFi, your device's WiFi module is turned off after a short delay (to make up for connection hiccups). When you reenter the range, you will quickly be reconnected.
Optionally, the app comes with a MAC checking feature to actually get some security into Android's WiFi system. By default, Android only checks the name of the network. That means that if any network has the same name, Android automatically connects to it, including sending the network password to this probably malicious router. Not to mention the dangers coming from being connected to a malicious WiFi. The MAC check tries to make sure the network is actually who it seems to be.
The app does have in-app purchases, but those are only for donations and to deactivate ads. The full functionality is completely free.
I'm looking forward to any feedback you may have for me and would be very grateful for it. Thanks in advance!
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I'll definitely have to try this. Combined with Cataclysm's smart radio option, this could be a real winner.
huei92 said:
perhaps you can add a feature that allow user to turn on/off wifi at specific time interval instead of 24/7
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I think this would make the app unnecessarily complex. The app presumably saves battery power by reducing the frequency of wifi scans, no need to bloat it beyond that. Tasker already allows such granular control of processes, among other options for those who want it. However, I do think a good alternative would be a push button widget to force wifi scan, that way when you come within range of a familiar wifi network you could scan and connect with one touch.
BirchBarlow said:
a push button widget to force wifi scan, that way when you come within range of a familiar wifi network you could scan and connect with one touch.
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Now that's part-of-the-next-update material! Thank you!
huei92, I'd still like to make sure you're satisfied though, so if you could tell me why you need that feature, I'm sure we can come up with a good solution
EDIT: Ha! I'm so tired of run of the mill apps getting featured that I asked the following without installing. Installed and answered all my own questions, kind of embarrassing. Great app, I'm about to buy the add free/donation purchase. It would be great to have Tasker integration for disabling and enabling the service process for when my WiFi goes down but in addition to some of my own unique uses of the phone. I've worked around everything and it was worth it. I hope you cash in really well before Google rips off your idea in a future update.
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Does this require "scanning always available" to be off? I would presume that since its just listening in this mode that the phone's stored login settings aren't being sent but I'm no expert here. In my scenario, scanning always available is set on when I'm not at home but wifi is off and notification of open networks is off.
Essentially, can I use this app with those settings and still have a wifi near profile in Tasker?
Also, is your app depending upon "scanning always available" in the wifi settings or is it running its own separate service for this, and if it is a separate service, is there a Tasker plugin similar to wifi near in the future?
what the different between this and interval wifi scan time in build.prop?
Sounds like a great app. Will try it. Thanks.
So I got one of these S3 watches. Nice for the most part. There are times when I do not want to be always connected to the phone. It is nice they have this LTE version that can be used standalone without your phone BUT. Some genius thought it would be a good idea to plaster a nice big white watch icon over your previously nice watch face at 12:00 position when in stand alone mode to tell you you are in stand alone mode, how nice of them. This basically ruins all of the nice watchfaces out there. So you have only the choice to bring the phone and drain the battery with BT even if you don't want it or have this ugly "reminder" plastered over your watch!
Is there something I am missing or is there no way to shut that dumb icon OFF. I am seriously considering returning the watch because of this, it is so stupid of an idea.
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The watch icon only appears in standalone mode. You can avoid it by running in remote connect mode, which will still allow you to leave the phone behind.
afblangley said:
The watch icon only appears in standalone mode. You can avoid it by running in remote connect mode, which will still allow you to leave the phone behind.
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How do you run in remote connect mode?
DaveC1964 said:
How do you run in remote connect mode?[/11QUOTE]
Pair the S3 with a phone via BT, then turn BT off on the phone. Check the S3 display, it should say "connected remotely AT&T/T-Mobile".
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DaveC1964 said:
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Pair the S3 with a phone via BT, then turn BT off on the phone. Check the S3 display, it should say "connected remotely AT&T/T-Mobile".
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But then I would have to be constantly connected to the cellular network which is a huge battery drain right? Also I may opt to not continue cellular service due to cost, which means that damn annoying icon again.
The idea is not having to charge it every 8 hours unless I really need it to be connected. Sometimes I just need a watch and don't need a connection, at those times it would be nice to not have to connect it to something and save battery. Is there a way?
It seems real stupid that they would spoil the look of watchfaces when a main draw of the device is nice watchfaces. Is there some kind of feature request somewhere where we can request an option to shut off icons on watch faces?
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I haven't noticed a difference in battery consumption between standalone and remote connect. Either will last a 18+ hour day under normal usage.
I don't understand the purpose of wearing the watch with neither a cellular or BT connection. Would it even tell time? I know the standalone icon appear when on a service plan, but does it appear when the eSIM isn't activated?
afblangley said:
I haven't noticed a difference in battery consumption between standalone and remote connect. Either will last a 18+ hour day under normal usage.
I don't understand the purpose of wearing the watch with neither a cellular or BT connection. Would it even tell time? I know the standalone icon appear when on a service plan, but does it appear when the eSIM isn't activated?
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The purpose is battery life and/or bulk. Sometimes I just don't want the bulk of the phone, and this watch is good enough to leave phone behind for a time. I am not that heavy of a phone user that I always need the phone. It tells time and many apps work fine without the phone. That was a supposed selling point that you could use standalone when wanted.
How would I try it with un activated SIM? If it is activated not sure how to test inactivated. I tried shutting off the cellular in the settings but still get the icon.
The ONLY way I have found to get rid of the icon is to connect to phone with BT. Nothing else works, not even having a cellular connection.
I agree the Frontier LTE is quite capable even when not connected to a phone. So much so that it serves as my primary phone and I rarely carry any additional phone.
There is very little functionality when the watch is not connected to a network. Running it without a BT connection or a wireless plan would render it almost useless. Therefore, I haven't spent any time figuring out how to inactivate the eSIM.
As stated earlier, I only get the icon in standalone mode. It does not appear when remotely connected. Since there's no advantage to running in standalone mode vs remotely connect mode, isn't your problem solved?
DaveC1964 said:
Is there something I am missing or is there no way to shut that dumb icon OFF. I am seriously considering returning the watch because of this, it is so stupid of an idea.
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I like the icon. Being in remote and/or standalone mode uses more battery. When I connect Android Auto to my S7 Edge it sometimes (but not always) kicks my Gear S3 off BT. When I see the icon I know to reconnect BT to save battery. I'm guessing that's why Samsung put it there. If you think the presence of that icon is the only thing letting people know you're wearing a smartphone with a band on your wrist vs. a "real" watch you're naïve. Especially when it lights up in dark rooms at night because of the AOD.
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I like the icon. Being in remote and/or standalone mode uses more battery. When I connect Android Auto to my S7 Edge it sometimes (but not always) kicks my Gear S3 off BT. When I see the icon I know to reconnect BT to save battery. I'm guessing that's why Samsung put it there. If you think the presence of that icon is the only thing letting people know you're wearing a smartphone with a band on your wrist vs. a "real" watch you're naïve. Especially when it lights up in dark rooms at night because of the AOD.
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Has nothing to do with making someone think it is a real watch. It has to do with nicely done beautiful watch faces all having this white "wart" spoiling the look of it.
It is ok to have it for those that want it but it should be able to be shut off with an option.
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I agree the Frontier LTE is quite capable even when not connected to a phone. So much so that it serves as my primary phone and I rarely carry any additional phone.
There is very little functionality when the watch is not connected to a network. Running it without a BT connection or a wireless plan would render it almost useless. Therefore, I haven't spent any time figuring out how to inactivate the eSIM.
As stated earlier, I only get the icon in standalone mode. It does not appear when remotely connected. Since there's no advantage to running in standalone mode vs remotely connect mode, isn't your problem solved?
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No the problem is not solved because even when remotely connected it shows for me. I turned on LTE then enabled blue tooth on the phone. It connects and the icon disappears, but as soon as I shut off BT on the phone the icon pops up again instantly. So no matter what mode I use I MUST be connected to the phone for the icon to go away. Nothing else matters, I can connect to LTE, to wifi everything but as soon as the phone connection is lost POW that effing bright white icon is back blocking out the 12:00 position. It is really quite irritating.
Maybe I am not doing remote connect right? Is there a firmware update that handles it differently maybe? I checked and it said no updates needed. I am not sure but i did as you say and it does mention something about network connected but I still get that damn dial wart.
Does your screen display this nessage?
See the difference in the icon vs remote connect?
afblangley said:
Does your screen display this nessage?
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I can't get it to remote connect. It is either connected to phone or shows like the second one "stand alone t-mobile".
Oh well.
To get that icon to go away do this...
Connect the watch via Bluetooth to your phone. Then turn off Bluetooth but do this on your watch and not the phone. You'll be connected "remotely" through your data connection and that watch symbol will be gone.
If you cancel Bluetooth through the phone, you'll get the symbol on your watch. Try this and see if it works.
I just don't know if you use more battery being "remotely" connected than in just stand alone mode.
Rhokk said:
To get that icon to go away do this...
Connect the watch via Bluetooth to your phone. Then turn off Bluetooth but do this on your watch and not the phone. You'll be connected "remotely" through your data connection and that watch symbol will be gone.
If you cancel Bluetooth through the phone, you'll get the symbol on your watch. Try this and see if it works.
I just don't know if you use more battery being "remotely" connected than in just stand alone mode.
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I wonder if we can root the device if that icon could be killed? Maybe I could go to where that image is and replace with a blank image. That may work too eventually. Hopefully it will be possible to root the device.
I know the icon annoys you, but it's not accidental, it's a useful feature for some of us. Remote connection can be a little flaky- it sometimes drops out for no reason. The appearance of the standalone icon let's us know when that happens. This is important because notifications aren't passed through in standalone mode like they are in RC.
afblangley said:
I know the icon annoys you, but it's not accidental, it's a useful feature for some of us. Remote connection can be a little flaky- it sometimes drops out for no reason. The appearance of the standalone icon let's us know when that happens. This is important because notifications aren't passed through in standalone mode like they are in RC.
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That is why it should be an option. If you like it keep it, if you don't disable it.
It shouldn't be forced on whether you want it or not. Not everyone uses the watch the same way. For me the only way to get rid of it is BT and phone connection. Even cellular connection shows icon. It is very distracting and ruins the look of watch faces and since a main feature is nice watch faces it should be able to be turned off.
The icon should not appear while connected in BT or RC mode. Furthermore, when it does appear (SA mode), its only when the watchface is active, not on the AOD face. So it only appears for a few seconds and doesn't effect the watchface 99% of the time. That's what happens on my watch, and I don't think this is a case of YMMV. Maybe your S3 is defective?
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The icon should not appear while connected in BT or RC mode. Furthermore, when it does appear (SA mode), its only when the watchface is active, not on the AOD face. So it only appears for a few seconds and doesn't effect the watchface 99% of the time. That's what happens on my watch, and I don't think this is a case of YMMV. Maybe your S3 is defective?
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I don't use AOD as all it does is drain the battery too fast and burn-in the OLED screen. I found that the wrist motion to turn on screen works fine, I don't need it on when I am not looking at it. So for me it effects the display 99% of the time.
Even then the AOD is a simplified face, if I want to see the full quality face I get the icon to spoil it. So you either get downgraded face or spoiled face. Not a good choice for me.
That is the general question.
I'm the owner of Galaxy Watch 4 LTE. Samsung disabled the possibility to locate the watch by GPS from March 2021. So if You lost Your watch, You must buy new one. Brilliant.
When I'm trying to locate the watch by Google I have info "Location disabled". If is disabled, must be something "false" in Wear OS made with cooperation with genius from Samsung.
The question is, where and how using ADB change the option and allow to locate the watch by Google?
Have you tried with Samsung "Find My Mobile"?
Find My Mobile
findmymobile.samsung.com
riveccia said:
Have you tried with Samsung "Find My Mobile"?
Find My Mobile
findmymobile.samsung.com
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Find my mobile is disabled for watches. You can't register Watch. The system didn't recognize the watch.
Samsung told me that everything is ok - no possibility to location the watch by GPS. New policy of Samsung from March 2021.
Sounds ridiculous? It is reality.
Watch4user said:
Find my mobile is disabled for watches. You can't register Watch. The system didn't recognize the watch.
Samsung told me that everything is ok - no possibility to location the watch by GPS. New policy of Samsung from March 2021.
Sounds ridiculous? It is reality.
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Working for me normally... View attachment 5428133
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Please disconnect watch from the smartphone, I mean, turn off Bluetooth and WIFI on smartphone and Watch. Leave only LTE on Watch, and then check again.
Watch4user said:
Please disconnect watch from the smartphone, I mean, turn off Bluetooth and WIFI on smartphone and Watch. Leave only LTE on Watch, and then check again.
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It seems to find it yes, it says online. BT+WiFi off on watch. LTE on, I have separate data plan on the watch
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It seems to find it yes, it says online. BT+WiFi off on watch. LTE on, I have separate data plan on the watch
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How You did that?
- a spent 7 hours in previous few days with Samsung support, result: "We apologize but...it is not possible"
- XDA said the same: https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-get-location-service-shutdown/
and now You, like a superhero on a white horse, show us something impossible.
I will ask again, how it is possible? What You did? What do You know more than Samsung official support know?
Watch4user said:
How You did that?
- a spent 7 hours in previous few days with Samsung support, result: "We apologize but...it is not possible"
- XDA said the same: https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-get-location-service-shutdown/
and now You, like a superhero on a white horse, show us something impossible.
I will ask again, how it is possible? What You did? What do You know more than Samsung official support know?
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Maybe it's just showing it online and the location but its wrong? I cannot verify as I am wearing it currently and I am working, but I can test it and leave it somewhere then check the location again maybe....
CrazyCypher said:
Maybe it's just showing it online and the location but its wrong? I cannot verify as I am wearing it currently and I am working, but I can test it and leave it somewhere then check the location again maybe....
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No, I don't think so. You know where You are, and if Watch showing near location it will work ok. You are disconnected all things like BT and WIFI. There is no way to get Your watch location in other way like by LTE and GPS. Of course BTS can alsodo that, but that feature is not for "normal user" but for Police.
I`m going on war with Samsung. Incompetence of all Samsung support is shocking, but like You see XDA with article said the same. You are special or everyone include me, XDA and Samsung are wrong.
Watch4user said:
No, I don't think so. You know where You are, and if Watch showing near location it will work ok. You are disconnected all things like BT and WIFI. There is no way to get Your watch location in other way like by LTE and GPS. Of course BTS can alsodo that, but that feature is not for "normal user" but for Police.
I`m going on war with Samsung. Incompetence of all Samsung support is shocking, but like You see XDA with article said the same. You are special or everyone include me, XDA and Samsung are wrong.
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Hello, I just tested. In watch under location I have enabled location and improve accuracy. If I have BT and WiFi disabled on the watch but LTE on phone and watch on. These are my settings and it found watch. Maybe it needs remote mobile connection to find it: Maybe findmymobile sends request to mobile, then mobile sends request to watch. Try with LTE enabled on mobile.
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Hello, I just tested. In watch under location I have enabled location and improve accuracy. If I have BT and WiFi disabled on the watch but LTE on phone and watch on. These are my settings and it found watch. Maybe it needs remote mobile connection to find it: Maybe findmymobile sends request to mobile, then mobile sends request to watch. Try with LTE enabled on mobile.
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Just disable LTE, WIFI, BT on mobile. Take Your laptop, go to findmymobile and check then.
Connection between mobile and then from mobile to the watch is completely ridiculous.
How will You find Your watch anywhere in the city after lost? You will walk around with Your phone, to establish connection between Your smartphone and watch, and then You will be able to check location of the watch?))
Watch4user said:
Just disable LTE, WIFI, BT on mobile. Take Your laptop, go to findmymobile and check then.
Connection between mobile and then from mobile to the watch is completely ridiculous.
How will You find Your watch anywhere in the city after lost? You will walk around with Your phone, to establish connection between Your smartphone and watch, and then You will be able to check location of the watch?))
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I always have all (lte, wifi and BT) enabled on my phone so why would I need to find the watch without all of this and without the phone? If I loose the watch I will look for it with my phone. I will not be running around the city with my laptop and wifi hotspot but I will open findmymobile on my phone (Chrome Browser) and look for the watch there. If I leave my phone at home and I only have the watch which gets stolen when I go swimming I will ask a friend to borrow his phone and I will open findmymobile on his phone to access location of the watch. If phone and watch get stolen I will open findmymobile on friends phone and access location of phone and watch. Thief cannot disable connections (lte, wifi, bt) on phone or watch because of pattern/password protection
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I always have all (lte, wifi and BT) enabled on my phone so why would I need to find the watch without all of this and without the phone? If I loose the watch I will look for it with my phone. I will not be running around the city with my laptop and wifi hotspot but I will open findmymobile on my phone (Chrome Browser) and look for the watch there. If I leave my phone at home and I only have the watch which gets stolen when I go swimming I will ask a friend to borrow his phone and I will open findmymobile on his phone to access location of the watch. If phone and watch get stolen I will open findmymobile on friends phone and access location of phone and watch. Thief cannot disable connections (lte, wifi, bt) on phone or watch because of pattern/password protection
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Hehe That was of course a joke about running around the city
In one sentence, You can track Your watch from anywhere, by any device. Just login on findmymobile.
This is a miracle.
Only one thing is different between You and me. You are using Samsung smartphone for paring and operating by Galaxy Wearable. I'm using Xiaomi Redmi. But no one, never, include whole Samsung support didn't say "You must have Samsung smartphone for first pairing and approve all necessary agreements to ALLOW in the future to localize Your watch through findmymobile".
I have for You the last question, Could You check where is Your watch by the Google "find my device"? Wear OS support that, so it should be possible. When I try to do that, I get an info "Location disabled". So WearOS on Watch 4, "Made in Samsung" have disabled that option in of course my case. I wonder that You will be able to use Google to do that, or only by Samsung findmymobile.
Watch4user said:
Hehe That was of course a joke about running around the city
In one sentence, You can track Your watch from anywhere, by any device. Just login on findmymobile.
This is a miracle.
Only one thing is different between You and me. You are using Samsung smartphone for paring and operating by Galaxy Wearable. I'm using Xiaomi Redmi. But no one, never, include whole Samsung support didn't say "You must have Samsung smartphone for first pairing and approve all necessary agreements to ALLOW in the future to localize Your watch through findmymobile".
I have for You the last question, Could You check where is Your watch by the Google "find my device"? Wear OS support that, so it should be possible. When I try to do that, I get an info "Location disabled". So WearOS on Watch 4, "Made in Samsung" have disabled that option in of course my case. I wonder that You will be able to use Google to do that, or only by Samsung findmymobile.
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I think this is the issue yes, I've read many times a lot of features are not working if users don't have Samsung phones... I'm using Galaxy S21 Ultra. Findmymobile unfortunately does not work, it says watch is offline. Then I go into Samsung website and I can locate it without problems. Same settings.
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I think this is the issue yes, I've read many times a lot of features are not working if users don't have Samsung phones... I'm using Galaxy S21 Ultra. Findmymobile unfortunately does not work, it says watch is offline. Then I go into Samsung website and I can locate it without problems. Same settings.
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But Your screen from today was from findmymobile?
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But Your screen from today was from findmymobile?
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From samsung site
CrazyCypher said:
From samsung site
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Could You show me where on samsung site You can chceck location?
Watch4user said:
Could You show me where on samsung site You can chceck location?
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Find My Mobile
findmymobile.samsung.com
Hej...
You can locate your watch without problem on the Samsung site or Via Smart Thing...Besides this even if watch, location etc is off it will shown last known location...When in april I left my watch in the Samsung Service Center location was shown and describes then my watch was visible and discovered by the near Samsung devices...
Watch4user said:
How You did that?
- a spent 7 hours in previous few days with Samsung support, result: "We apologize but...it is not possible"
- XDA said the same: https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-get-location-service-shutdown/
and now You, like a superhero on a white horse, show us something impossible.
I will ask again, how it is possible? What You did? What do You know more than Samsung official support know?
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Hej...
That's is not quite truth what is written in that article...I know that from my own experience when i was able to locate my watch not so long ago, even if was many kilometers away from the watch...
Even now...im connected with my watch via lte and in the other part of the city and still can be found on the Samsung site and via Smart Things...