Question How to unlock by ADB location in Samsung watches - Samsung Galaxy Watch 4

That is the general question.
I'm the owner of Galaxy Watch 4 LTE. Samsung disabled the possibility to locate the watch by GPS from March 2021. So if You lost Your watch, You must buy new one. Brilliant.
When I'm trying to locate the watch by Google I have info "Location disabled". If is disabled, must be something "false" in Wear OS made with cooperation with genius from Samsung.
The question is, where and how using ADB change the option and allow to locate the watch by Google?

Have you tried with Samsung "Find My Mobile"?
Find My Mobile
findmymobile.samsung.com

riveccia said:
Have you tried with Samsung "Find My Mobile"?
Find My Mobile
findmymobile.samsung.com
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Find my mobile is disabled for watches. You can't register Watch. The system didn't recognize the watch.
Samsung told me that everything is ok - no possibility to location the watch by GPS. New policy of Samsung from March 2021.
Sounds ridiculous? It is reality.

Watch4user said:
Find my mobile is disabled for watches. You can't register Watch. The system didn't recognize the watch.
Samsung told me that everything is ok - no possibility to location the watch by GPS. New policy of Samsung from March 2021.
Sounds ridiculous? It is reality.
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CrazyCypher said:
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Please disconnect watch from the smartphone, I mean, turn off Bluetooth and WIFI on smartphone and Watch. Leave only LTE on Watch, and then check again.

Watch4user said:
Please disconnect watch from the smartphone, I mean, turn off Bluetooth and WIFI on smartphone and Watch. Leave only LTE on Watch, and then check again.
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It seems to find it yes, it says online. BT+WiFi off on watch. LTE on, I have separate data plan on the watch

CrazyCypher said:
It seems to find it yes, it says online. BT+WiFi off on watch. LTE on, I have separate data plan on the watch
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How You did that?
- a spent 7 hours in previous few days with Samsung support, result: "We apologize but...it is not possible"
- XDA said the same: https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-get-location-service-shutdown/
and now You, like a superhero on a white horse, show us something impossible.
I will ask again, how it is possible? What You did? What do You know more than Samsung official support know?

Watch4user said:
How You did that?
- a spent 7 hours in previous few days with Samsung support, result: "We apologize but...it is not possible"
- XDA said the same: https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-get-location-service-shutdown/
and now You, like a superhero on a white horse, show us something impossible.
I will ask again, how it is possible? What You did? What do You know more than Samsung official support know?
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Maybe it's just showing it online and the location but its wrong? I cannot verify as I am wearing it currently and I am working, but I can test it and leave it somewhere then check the location again maybe....

CrazyCypher said:
Maybe it's just showing it online and the location but its wrong? I cannot verify as I am wearing it currently and I am working, but I can test it and leave it somewhere then check the location again maybe....
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No, I don't think so. You know where You are, and if Watch showing near location it will work ok. You are disconnected all things like BT and WIFI. There is no way to get Your watch location in other way like by LTE and GPS. Of course BTS can alsodo that, but that feature is not for "normal user" but for Police.
I`m going on war with Samsung. Incompetence of all Samsung support is shocking, but like You see XDA with article said the same. You are special or everyone include me, XDA and Samsung are wrong.

Watch4user said:
No, I don't think so. You know where You are, and if Watch showing near location it will work ok. You are disconnected all things like BT and WIFI. There is no way to get Your watch location in other way like by LTE and GPS. Of course BTS can alsodo that, but that feature is not for "normal user" but for Police.
I`m going on war with Samsung. Incompetence of all Samsung support is shocking, but like You see XDA with article said the same. You are special or everyone include me, XDA and Samsung are wrong.
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Hello, I just tested. In watch under location I have enabled location and improve accuracy. If I have BT and WiFi disabled on the watch but LTE on phone and watch on. These are my settings and it found watch. Maybe it needs remote mobile connection to find it: Maybe findmymobile sends request to mobile, then mobile sends request to watch. Try with LTE enabled on mobile.

CrazyCypher said:
Hello, I just tested. In watch under location I have enabled location and improve accuracy. If I have BT and WiFi disabled on the watch but LTE on phone and watch on. These are my settings and it found watch. Maybe it needs remote mobile connection to find it: Maybe findmymobile sends request to mobile, then mobile sends request to watch. Try with LTE enabled on mobile.
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Just disable LTE, WIFI, BT on mobile. Take Your laptop, go to findmymobile and check then.
Connection between mobile and then from mobile to the watch is completely ridiculous.
How will You find Your watch anywhere in the city after lost? You will walk around with Your phone, to establish connection between Your smartphone and watch, and then You will be able to check location of the watch?))

Watch4user said:
Just disable LTE, WIFI, BT on mobile. Take Your laptop, go to findmymobile and check then.
Connection between mobile and then from mobile to the watch is completely ridiculous.
How will You find Your watch anywhere in the city after lost? You will walk around with Your phone, to establish connection between Your smartphone and watch, and then You will be able to check location of the watch?))
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I always have all (lte, wifi and BT) enabled on my phone so why would I need to find the watch without all of this and without the phone? If I loose the watch I will look for it with my phone. I will not be running around the city with my laptop and wifi hotspot but I will open findmymobile on my phone (Chrome Browser) and look for the watch there. If I leave my phone at home and I only have the watch which gets stolen when I go swimming I will ask a friend to borrow his phone and I will open findmymobile on his phone to access location of the watch. If phone and watch get stolen I will open findmymobile on friends phone and access location of phone and watch. Thief cannot disable connections (lte, wifi, bt) on phone or watch because of pattern/password protection

CrazyCypher said:
I always have all (lte, wifi and BT) enabled on my phone so why would I need to find the watch without all of this and without the phone? If I loose the watch I will look for it with my phone. I will not be running around the city with my laptop and wifi hotspot but I will open findmymobile on my phone (Chrome Browser) and look for the watch there. If I leave my phone at home and I only have the watch which gets stolen when I go swimming I will ask a friend to borrow his phone and I will open findmymobile on his phone to access location of the watch. If phone and watch get stolen I will open findmymobile on friends phone and access location of phone and watch. Thief cannot disable connections (lte, wifi, bt) on phone or watch because of pattern/password protection
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Hehe That was of course a joke about running around the city
In one sentence, You can track Your watch from anywhere, by any device. Just login on findmymobile.
This is a miracle.
Only one thing is different between You and me. You are using Samsung smartphone for paring and operating by Galaxy Wearable. I'm using Xiaomi Redmi. But no one, never, include whole Samsung support didn't say "You must have Samsung smartphone for first pairing and approve all necessary agreements to ALLOW in the future to localize Your watch through findmymobile".
I have for You the last question, Could You check where is Your watch by the Google "find my device"? Wear OS support that, so it should be possible. When I try to do that, I get an info "Location disabled". So WearOS on Watch 4, "Made in Samsung" have disabled that option in of course my case. I wonder that You will be able to use Google to do that, or only by Samsung findmymobile.

Watch4user said:
Hehe That was of course a joke about running around the city
In one sentence, You can track Your watch from anywhere, by any device. Just login on findmymobile.
This is a miracle.
Only one thing is different between You and me. You are using Samsung smartphone for paring and operating by Galaxy Wearable. I'm using Xiaomi Redmi. But no one, never, include whole Samsung support didn't say "You must have Samsung smartphone for first pairing and approve all necessary agreements to ALLOW in the future to localize Your watch through findmymobile".
I have for You the last question, Could You check where is Your watch by the Google "find my device"? Wear OS support that, so it should be possible. When I try to do that, I get an info "Location disabled". So WearOS on Watch 4, "Made in Samsung" have disabled that option in of course my case. I wonder that You will be able to use Google to do that, or only by Samsung findmymobile.
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I think this is the issue yes, I've read many times a lot of features are not working if users don't have Samsung phones... I'm using Galaxy S21 Ultra. Findmymobile unfortunately does not work, it says watch is offline. Then I go into Samsung website and I can locate it without problems. Same settings.

CrazyCypher said:
I think this is the issue yes, I've read many times a lot of features are not working if users don't have Samsung phones... I'm using Galaxy S21 Ultra. Findmymobile unfortunately does not work, it says watch is offline. Then I go into Samsung website and I can locate it without problems. Same settings.
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But Your screen from today was from findmymobile?

Watch4user said:
But Your screen from today was from findmymobile?
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From samsung site

CrazyCypher said:
From samsung site
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Could You show me where on samsung site You can chceck location?

Watch4user said:
Could You show me where on samsung site You can chceck location?
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Find My Mobile
findmymobile.samsung.com

Hej...
You can locate your watch without problem on the Samsung site or Via Smart Thing...Besides this even if watch, location etc is off it will shown last known location...When in april I left my watch in the Samsung Service Center location was shown and describes then my watch was visible and discovered by the near Samsung devices...

Watch4user said:
How You did that?
- a spent 7 hours in previous few days with Samsung support, result: "We apologize but...it is not possible"
- XDA said the same: https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-get-location-service-shutdown/
and now You, like a superhero on a white horse, show us something impossible.
I will ask again, how it is possible? What You did? What do You know more than Samsung official support know?
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Hej...
That's is not quite truth what is written in that article...I know that from my own experience when i was able to locate my watch not so long ago, even if was many kilometers away from the watch...
Even now...im connected with my watch via lte and in the other part of the city and still can be found on the Samsung site and via Smart Things...

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Standalone GPS Navigation on Gear S2 3G

Has anyone found an option to use the watch for standalone GPS navigation? I realize it would be a last resort since it's not as easy to use as your phone, but I.E. if your phone got left at home or whatever, I'd like to be able to use the watch for directions.
The Here Maps app requires BT pairing with the phone, which in my opinion, makes it useless. Because if you have your phone in your pocket, who wouldn't just use the phone??
EDIT: from what I can tell, Komoot also does not do this.
Any luck finding this? I just got the watch and was disappointed that this feature was not available since I'd rather use Google Maps if I have my phone on me...
I didn't own the Gear S, but it appears there was a Gear Navigator Standalone app that did just what you [and I] are looking for. It looks like the developer of the app is actually the one that makes a companion app for the Gear S2's HERE Maps as well (although that rely's on the BT connection still), so hopefully they'll come out with one for the S2. Anyone know about anything in development?
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Any luck finding this? I just got the watch and was disappointed that this feature was not available since I'd rather use Google Maps if I have my phone on me...
I didn't own the Gear S, but it appears there was a Gear Navigator Standalone app that did just what you [and I] are looking for. It looks like the developer of the app is actually the one that makes a companion app for the Gear S2's HERE Maps as well (although that rely's on the BT connection still), so hopefully they'll come out with one for the S2. Anyone know about anything in development?
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Yeah under settings > conenctions > then scroll down to the bottom for "locations" > turn it on and select the GPS method you want.
I have verizon, so it may be different for yours. Also, there is no GPS for the wifi/bluetooth model
53aray said:
Yeah under settings > conenctions > then scroll down to the bottom for "locations" > turn it on and select the GPS method you want.
I have verizon, so it may be different for yours. Also, there is no GPS for the wifi/bluetooth model
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Turning on GPS doesn't give you turn-by-turn navigation though. You can pull up the maps app and see your location, but in order to navigate to a destination as you would with Google Maps, Waze, a Garmin, etc you need to be BT-connected to your phone still.
Search for "Gear Navigator Standalone" in the Gear store. (It's there for me anyway; I'm in the US.) Claims to provide exactly what you want. Although the current instructions say for S2-3G users, "because of weak GPS signal under certain conditions, it is highly recommended to pair smartwatch with phone to get accurate GPS coordinates and internet connection."
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Search for "Gear Navigator Standalone" in the Gear store. (It's there for me anyway; I'm in the US.) Claims to provide exactly what you want. Although the current instructions say for S2-3G users, "because of weak GPS signal under certain conditions, it is highly recommended to pair smartwatch with phone to get accurate GPS coordinates and internet connection."
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Someone else pointed this out to me on another thread. Are you on a non-3G version? I think it has been temporarily pulled for the 3G version. I contacted the developer last night and he was quick to respond - said it should be re-released sometime in May after some big fixes.
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Someone else pointed this out to me on another thread. Are you on a non-3G version? I think it has been temporarily pulled for the 3G version. I contacted the developer last night and he was quick to respond - said it should be re-released sometime in May after some big fixes.
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Yes, that it explains it, I'm on a non-3g S2 classic.
I am quite interested in this -- for public transit navigation. Even paired with a phone, does it work well without a data connection?
In my gear S2 3G (AT&T) has a small bug with S-health application.
When I run I use the GPS in watch to make my track, and on the same route and the same place, when I put the option to walk it notes 1,2km in 25minutos, when I use the run option he notes 4.5km in 25minutos that is what that's right.
Someone with the same bug?

GS3 as standalone, do you NEED to pair with a phone?

I was looking to get an S3. What I wanted to know is can the watch be connected to the app store and download faces/apps without a phone either over wifi or if an LTE version over the network? Such as if you get a tablet, you can use it fine with just a wifi connection, you don't need to pair those to a phone. I ask because for one I don't have the latest phone of the month (Sammy seems to snub those with phone models older than a year - slight exaggeration but not much). The other thing is that I want to be able to leave the phone home at times and still be able to browse for watch faces etc over wifi.
I really don't care about notifications or email (I don't get that many) nor to I want to pay for things with the watch. When I really need to do those things I don't find using the phone that much work. I just want the watch to use as a watch, and have some helpful apps to use when not carrying my phone, is it possible?
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
afblangley said:
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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So unlike a tablet Samsung locks you out of the app store on the actual watch even if LTE if you don't have a phone connected? That seems kind of dumb and limiting especially since the supported phone list is so small. Is it just because browsing apps on the watch is too difficult maybe?
I wonder if this will change, I can get apps on a tablet through wifi I don't see why not with the watch. This watch seems like a mini tablet that tells time.
afblangley said:
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Are you sure my friend that it can make and receive calls and send messages without it being connected to the phone via bluetooth??i got mine s3 a week ago...i love it really, but it doesn't do these things when not connected ro the phone (s6 edge plus)...
Just saw, i have the bluetooth s3 frontier version and not the LTE version...so i guess that's why it has to be connected to the phone via bluetooth...
My only problem is that i can not connect to my phone via wi-fi...whenever i activate this option on my phone, it crashes with the message gear S pluggin has stopped working...any clues ?
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afblangley said:
Out the box, the Gear S3 can be setup and used by itself, without ever connecting to a smartphone. I call this independent mode. It can make and receive phone calls and messages, tell time, date, and weather, be an alarm clock, set reminders, and monitor fitness (i.e. sleep, HR, steps). I operated this way for a couple of weeks after getting the watch.
Additional functionality is gained if you have a phone (tablets won't work) that is capable of running Gear Manager. This is necessary if you want to install and apps including watchfaces. The watch doesn't need to be constantly connected to the phone. There are two ways additional ways to leave the phone behind. In standalone mode, the watch is disconnected from the phone, but downloaded apps remain available. In remote connect mode, the phone communicates with the watch via cellular network, allowing notifications to pass through.
I use the S3 as my primary phone. I have a cheap Samsung phone that's used exclusively for the setup and management of the watch. I use a tablet for tasks (ie. content creation, computing, media consumption) that require a larger screen.
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Are these stand alone functions also available if you have the wifi version and no LTE?
I don't have any experience with the S3 BT model. I can only speak to the capability of the Frontier LTE. This watch is a phone. It has functionality that's probably comparable to a basic flip phone. It comes preloaded with apps for phone, messaging, contacts, S Health, weather, reminders, and a few others. When the eSIM is activated, it can perform tasks associated with these apps immediately upon startup. No phone is required.
When the watch is setup via Gear Manager, it installs software that enables additional apps to be installed and gains greater functionality. Most of which remains even when the watch is disconnected from the phone.
Gear Manger compatibility isn't limited to Samsung phones, it can be installed many Android phones, but not tablets. Not even Samsung tablets.
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I don't have any experience with the S3 BT model. I can only speak to the capability of the Frontier LTE. This watch is a phone. It has functionality that's probably comparable to a basic flip phone. It comes preloaded with apps for phone, messaging, contacts, S Health, weather, reminders, and a few others. When the eSIM is activated, it can perform tasks associated with these apps immediately upon startup. No phone is required.
When the watch is setup via Gear Manager, it installs software that enables additional apps to be installed and gains greater functionality. Most of which remains even when the watch is disconnected from the phone.
Gear Manger compatibility isn't limited to Samsung phones, it can be installed many Android phones, but not tablets. Not even Samsung tablets.
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If the watch is basically a phone then why couldn't I directly install apps/faces etc from the watch? It doesn't make much sense to me. If I install apps on a phone I do't need another phone to install things on the first one. It seems like Samsung is just too lazy to make an app on the watch to do it, or they want everyone to have to buy a new phone to use the watch (and hopefully a big percentage will buy a Samsung phone wink wink).
I wonder what the free space on the watch memory/storage is between the BT and LTE versons? If the LTE has more stuff installed I wonder if user memory is less?
I'm one of the few who use an S3 as my primary phone. I too wish that the S3 was a more independent device. But as it stands right now, it's the most capable smartwatch available (excluding watches running full Android made by a few small manufacturers). I hope that it paves the way for more standalone offerings by Apple and Android Wear watch makers.
I have a gear s3 lte Att e-sim unlocked. How can I activated with ATT GO PHONE or any other carrier Cricket,Tmobile? I am not an att customer. Thank you!
handrade773 said:
I have a gear s3 lte Att e-sim unlocked. How can I activated with ATT GO PHONE or any other carrier Cricket,Tmobile? I am not an att customer. Thank you!
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Since the eSIM is provisioned via programming, Cricket and MVNOs don't have the system to do it. So that's a no go.
Theoretically, T-Mobile should be able to do it because they also sell the watch. The difficulty is finding an employee who knows how to do it, since the IMEI won't be in their database. Getting it on a wearable line instead of a smartphone (more expensive) or tablet (no talk) plan will be an additional obstacle.
Putting the watch on GoPhone is also technically doable, someone on this forum or Android Central said they did it. I think they called CS with the IMEI and ICCID. Perhaps they will chime in on exactly how they were able to get it done.
I called ATT CS and I was able to activated on $30 plan ($25 Auto).
AFBLANGLEY, does the phone that you use to set up and manage the watch with, does that phone need to have a service plan?
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Dudical said:
AFBLANGLEY, does the phone that you use to set up and manage the watch with, does that phone need to have a service plan?
Thanks, Dan
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No, it doesn't need a SIM. As long as the phone is connected to a WiFi network, the watch can remotely connect to it. My phone sits docked permanently, right next to the router.
afblangley said:
No, it doesn't need a SIM. As long as the phone is connected to a WiFi network, the watch can remotely connect to it. My phone sits docked permanently, right next to the router.
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Are you able to utilize apps like spotify and audible from the phone that is connected back home? I am going to attempt to use the same set up as you and keep my Iphone as primary phone. I just would like to get all notifications and be able to respond with the GS3 as well.
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Are you able to utilize apps like spotify and audible from the phone that is connected back home? I am going to attempt to use the same set up as you and keep my Iphone as primary phone. I just would like to get all notifications and be able to respond with the GS3 as well.
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It's my understanding that if you have a Spotify premium account, you can stream directly to the watch, but I'm not a Spotify user. I don't believe that there is an Audible app for Tizen.
In terms of messages, email and notifications, yes they will be passed through as long as the watch is remotely connected to the "host" phone.
What you're wanting to do will work fine. The reason I have the setup is because I use a tablet and it is incompatible with the S3.
afblangley said:
It's my understanding that if you have a Spotify premium account, you can stream directly to the watch, but I'm not a Spotify user. I don't believe that there is an Audible app for Tizen.
In terms of messages, email and notifications, yes they will be passed through as long as the watch is remotely connected to the "host" phone.
What you're wanting to do will work fine. The reason I have the setup is because I use a tablet and it is incompatible with the S3.
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This is exciting news. Do you happen to have a link that describers your experience using the setup with additional phone? I would be interested to know some details but hate to pick your brain if its already out on the interwebs.
Im guessing that the tablet has no connection and never has to the GS3?
Are you using the tablet with google voice number for calls and messaging? I was contemplating on how I could link my Verizon number on the iPhone to the android at home near the router.
Does your gear s3 still count the steps without connection with the phone? Mine stops with bt and wifi turned off.

Watch-faces all ruined when not connected to phone.

So I got one of these S3 watches. Nice for the most part. There are times when I do not want to be always connected to the phone. It is nice they have this LTE version that can be used standalone without your phone BUT. Some genius thought it would be a good idea to plaster a nice big white watch icon over your previously nice watch face at 12:00 position when in stand alone mode to tell you you are in stand alone mode, how nice of them. This basically ruins all of the nice watchfaces out there. So you have only the choice to bring the phone and drain the battery with BT even if you don't want it or have this ugly "reminder" plastered over your watch!
Is there something I am missing or is there no way to shut that dumb icon OFF. I am seriously considering returning the watch because of this, it is so stupid of an idea.
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The watch icon only appears in standalone mode. You can avoid it by running in remote connect mode, which will still allow you to leave the phone behind.
afblangley said:
The watch icon only appears in standalone mode. You can avoid it by running in remote connect mode, which will still allow you to leave the phone behind.
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How do you run in remote connect mode?
DaveC1964 said:
How do you run in remote connect mode?[/11QUOTE]
Pair the S3 with a phone via BT, then turn BT off on the phone. Check the S3 display, it should say "connected remotely AT&T/T-Mobile".
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afblangley said:
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How do you run in remote connect mode?[/11QUOTE]
Pair the S3 with a phone via BT, then turn BT off on the phone. Check the S3 display, it should say "connected remotely AT&T/T-Mobile".
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But then I would have to be constantly connected to the cellular network which is a huge battery drain right? Also I may opt to not continue cellular service due to cost, which means that damn annoying icon again.
The idea is not having to charge it every 8 hours unless I really need it to be connected. Sometimes I just need a watch and don't need a connection, at those times it would be nice to not have to connect it to something and save battery. Is there a way?
It seems real stupid that they would spoil the look of watchfaces when a main draw of the device is nice watchfaces. Is there some kind of feature request somewhere where we can request an option to shut off icons on watch faces?
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I haven't noticed a difference in battery consumption between standalone and remote connect. Either will last a 18+ hour day under normal usage.
I don't understand the purpose of wearing the watch with neither a cellular or BT connection. Would it even tell time? I know the standalone icon appear when on a service plan, but does it appear when the eSIM isn't activated?
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I haven't noticed a difference in battery consumption between standalone and remote connect. Either will last a 18+ hour day under normal usage.
I don't understand the purpose of wearing the watch with neither a cellular or BT connection. Would it even tell time? I know the standalone icon appear when on a service plan, but does it appear when the eSIM isn't activated?
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The purpose is battery life and/or bulk. Sometimes I just don't want the bulk of the phone, and this watch is good enough to leave phone behind for a time. I am not that heavy of a phone user that I always need the phone. It tells time and many apps work fine without the phone. That was a supposed selling point that you could use standalone when wanted.
How would I try it with un activated SIM? If it is activated not sure how to test inactivated. I tried shutting off the cellular in the settings but still get the icon.
The ONLY way I have found to get rid of the icon is to connect to phone with BT. Nothing else works, not even having a cellular connection.
I agree the Frontier LTE is quite capable even when not connected to a phone. So much so that it serves as my primary phone and I rarely carry any additional phone.
There is very little functionality when the watch is not connected to a network. Running it without a BT connection or a wireless plan would render it almost useless. Therefore, I haven't spent any time figuring out how to inactivate the eSIM.
As stated earlier, I only get the icon in standalone mode. It does not appear when remotely connected. Since there's no advantage to running in standalone mode vs remotely connect mode, isn't your problem solved?
DaveC1964 said:
Is there something I am missing or is there no way to shut that dumb icon OFF. I am seriously considering returning the watch because of this, it is so stupid of an idea.
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I like the icon. Being in remote and/or standalone mode uses more battery. When I connect Android Auto to my S7 Edge it sometimes (but not always) kicks my Gear S3 off BT. When I see the icon I know to reconnect BT to save battery. I'm guessing that's why Samsung put it there. If you think the presence of that icon is the only thing letting people know you're wearing a smartphone with a band on your wrist vs. a "real" watch you're naïve. Especially when it lights up in dark rooms at night because of the AOD.
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I like the icon. Being in remote and/or standalone mode uses more battery. When I connect Android Auto to my S7 Edge it sometimes (but not always) kicks my Gear S3 off BT. When I see the icon I know to reconnect BT to save battery. I'm guessing that's why Samsung put it there. If you think the presence of that icon is the only thing letting people know you're wearing a smartphone with a band on your wrist vs. a "real" watch you're naïve. Especially when it lights up in dark rooms at night because of the AOD.
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Has nothing to do with making someone think it is a real watch. It has to do with nicely done beautiful watch faces all having this white "wart" spoiling the look of it.
It is ok to have it for those that want it but it should be able to be shut off with an option.
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I agree the Frontier LTE is quite capable even when not connected to a phone. So much so that it serves as my primary phone and I rarely carry any additional phone.
There is very little functionality when the watch is not connected to a network. Running it without a BT connection or a wireless plan would render it almost useless. Therefore, I haven't spent any time figuring out how to inactivate the eSIM.
As stated earlier, I only get the icon in standalone mode. It does not appear when remotely connected. Since there's no advantage to running in standalone mode vs remotely connect mode, isn't your problem solved?
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No the problem is not solved because even when remotely connected it shows for me. I turned on LTE then enabled blue tooth on the phone. It connects and the icon disappears, but as soon as I shut off BT on the phone the icon pops up again instantly. So no matter what mode I use I MUST be connected to the phone for the icon to go away. Nothing else matters, I can connect to LTE, to wifi everything but as soon as the phone connection is lost POW that effing bright white icon is back blocking out the 12:00 position. It is really quite irritating.
Maybe I am not doing remote connect right? Is there a firmware update that handles it differently maybe? I checked and it said no updates needed. I am not sure but i did as you say and it does mention something about network connected but I still get that damn dial wart.
Does your screen display this nessage?
See the difference in the icon vs remote connect?
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Does your screen display this nessage?
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I can't get it to remote connect. It is either connected to phone or shows like the second one "stand alone t-mobile".
Oh well.
To get that icon to go away do this...
Connect the watch via Bluetooth to your phone. Then turn off Bluetooth but do this on your watch and not the phone. You'll be connected "remotely" through your data connection and that watch symbol will be gone.
If you cancel Bluetooth through the phone, you'll get the symbol on your watch. Try this and see if it works.
I just don't know if you use more battery being "remotely" connected than in just stand alone mode.
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To get that icon to go away do this...
Connect the watch via Bluetooth to your phone. Then turn off Bluetooth but do this on your watch and not the phone. You'll be connected "remotely" through your data connection and that watch symbol will be gone.
If you cancel Bluetooth through the phone, you'll get the symbol on your watch. Try this and see if it works.
I just don't know if you use more battery being "remotely" connected than in just stand alone mode.
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I wonder if we can root the device if that icon could be killed? Maybe I could go to where that image is and replace with a blank image. That may work too eventually. Hopefully it will be possible to root the device.
I know the icon annoys you, but it's not accidental, it's a useful feature for some of us. Remote connection can be a little flaky- it sometimes drops out for no reason. The appearance of the standalone icon let's us know when that happens. This is important because notifications aren't passed through in standalone mode like they are in RC.
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I know the icon annoys you, but it's not accidental, it's a useful feature for some of us. Remote connection can be a little flaky- it sometimes drops out for no reason. The appearance of the standalone icon let's us know when that happens. This is important because notifications aren't passed through in standalone mode like they are in RC.
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That is why it should be an option. If you like it keep it, if you don't disable it.
It shouldn't be forced on whether you want it or not. Not everyone uses the watch the same way. For me the only way to get rid of it is BT and phone connection. Even cellular connection shows icon. It is very distracting and ruins the look of watch faces and since a main feature is nice watch faces it should be able to be turned off.
The icon should not appear while connected in BT or RC mode. Furthermore, when it does appear (SA mode), its only when the watchface is active, not on the AOD face. So it only appears for a few seconds and doesn't effect the watchface 99% of the time. That's what happens on my watch, and I don't think this is a case of YMMV. Maybe your S3 is defective?
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The icon should not appear while connected in BT or RC mode. Furthermore, when it does appear (SA mode), its only when the watchface is active, not on the AOD face. So it only appears for a few seconds and doesn't effect the watchface 99% of the time. That's what happens on my watch, and I don't think this is a case of YMMV. Maybe your S3 is defective?
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I don't use AOD as all it does is drain the battery too fast and burn-in the OLED screen. I found that the wrist motion to turn on screen works fine, I don't need it on when I am not looking at it. So for me it effects the display 99% of the time.
Even then the AOD is a simplified face, if I want to see the full quality face I get the icon to spoil it. So you either get downgraded face or spoiled face. Not a good choice for me.

GPS queation

Hello folks,
Just got my gear s3 classic, love it, much prefer it over the frontier. The only question I have about the watch is how does the gps work on the watch? It seems the only way I can get my location on google maps and directions is through my phone. Doesn't the watch has its own gps? I would love if someone can explain that. Cheers!
From the manual:
Location
Some apps may require location services to be turned
on for full functionality.
1. From the Apps screen, rotate the bezel to Settings.
2. Tap Connections > Location.
3. Tap Location again to enable, and select a mode.
•GPS & wireless networks: Use GPS and wireless networks.
•Wireless networks: Use wireless networks only.
•GPS: Use GPS only.
Thanks, I know how to turn it on or off, I will be more specific, for instance, why does the watch need my phone location in order to get my altitude above sea level? Thanks.
Cheers!
Dave23456 said:
Thanks, I know how to turn it on or off, I will be more specific, for instance, why does the watch need my phone location in order to get my altitude above sea level? Thanks.
Cheers!
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Unless you have the Frontier LTE version and are connected to the cellular network, the watch needs your phone in order to use the internet. The watch sends your location data and receives back the altitude.
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Unless you have the Frontier LTE version and are connected to the cellular network, the watch needs your phone in order to use the internet. The watch sends your location data and receives back the altitude.
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Hey, fully understood the thing is though, shouldn't it be possible for the watch to be connected to the phone via Bluetooth, enable the gps on the watch and get barometer info? Why does the phone location needs to be turned on too? Cheers!
Dave23456 said:
Hello folks,
Just got my gear s3 classic, love it, much prefer it over the frontier. The only question I have about the watch is how does the gps work on the watch? It seems the only way I can get my location on google maps and directions is through my phone. Doesn't the watch has its own gps? I would love if someone can explain that. Cheers!
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The GPS works just fine but there are not many apps that have been written to use it - HERE WeGo uses it.

Question Google Pay - Check your network connection

Hi,
Trying to set up Google Pay on my Samsung Watch 4 (model WH7R) and right after I select the account, I get this error message:
Check your network connection.
Please make sure that you're connected, and try again.
When I hit the Try again I immediately got the same error message.
If I hit Cancel then it will say Now Finish Setup On Your Phone but there is no app pop up on the phone.
Is there anything I should do to fix this? I have tried to reset my watch a few times. I have already set up Google Pay on my phone (Fold 3) and I am connected via both home Wifi and phone bluetooth.
Also WearOS app on my phone couldn't detect the watch (it is connected via the Galaxy Wear app), is that normal?
I have the very same "check your network connection" problem when selecting account on my Samsung Watch 4. Google Pay works fine on my galaxy s20 ultra mobile phone.
I have no idea what is causing this.
Morten Knud Nielsen said:
I have the very same "check your network connection" problem when selecting account on my Samsung Watch 4. Google Pay works fine on my galaxy s20 ultra mobile phone.
I have no idea what is causing this.
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I have tried it for a few more days but ended up getting frustrated and returned the watch on Wednesday, it is a great watch otherwise (battery life is quite amazing) but I definitely need Google Pay to work on it since that's one of the primary reasons for me to own the watch.
GL resolve yours, for me I think I'll just wait to see if Google would eventually make a Pixel watch of some sort
zhuanyi said:
I have tried it for a few more days but ended up getting frustrated and returned the watch on Wednesday, it is a great watch otherwise (battery life is quite amazing) but I definitely need Google Pay to work on it since that's one of the primary reasons for me to own the watch.
GL resolve yours, for me I think I'll just wait to see if Google would eventually make a Pixel watch of some sort
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I actually resolved it, thanks to this thread on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyWatch/comments/pbsb08
The problem was really ridiculous:
I was using a Gsuite account, but Gsuite accounts do not work with the watch, only with the mobile phone!!!
Using a personal account (ie @gmail.com) fixed the problem.
Morten Knud Nielsen said:
I actually resolved it, thanks to this thread on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyWatch/comments/pbsb08
The problem was really ridiculous:
I was using a Gsuite account, but Gsuite accounts do not work with the watch, only with the mobile phone!!!
Using a personal account (ie @gmail.com) fixed the problem.
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Wow thanks a lot, I wish we could go back in time and I might have kept the watch Thanks a lot for sharing the tip though, that's really good to know.
I didn't use the gmail one as I have been using my own domain for many yso I'll try to see if can turn off mobile device management in my GSuite domain instead.

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