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Are these limitations of CDMA, or just the Sprint version? Any way to correct them?

So I just got the Sprint version of the Touch Pro 2. Much to my surprise, it is lacking some functionality of its GSM counterpart.
#1: The Sprint dialer screen has a "Hold" button where the GSM version has an "Add Call" button. It sure was nice being able to instantly and easily conference in 1 or more other parties into a call.
#2: Bing and Google Maps can't instantly detect my position on this Sprint version the way they do on the GSM version. If I go into settings and use GPS to get the location, I have to wait a few minutes for the GPS to locate me. On the GSM version it finds you (presumably by using the cell towers) within about 5 seconds of you opening the app. The "Locate Me" option in Bing is actually greyed out when installing it on the Sprint Touch Pro 2. Is there any way to get this functionality?
#3: This one is not as big of a deal, but the weather app doesn't know where I am. On the GSM version, the weather sets itself to the correct city automatically. You can add another city if you like, but it automatically picks up your current city. I don't care about this one too much, but it would be nice. The other 2 (no "Add Call" and no "Locate Me") are borderline deal breakers for me.
Are these limitations just part of the Sprint ROM, or are they limitations of the CDMA technology itself? If this is a limitation of CDMA itself, then that is a major dissapointment to me. In fact, had I know about this beforehand I probably would have never left AT&T for Sprint. I got caught up in the cheaper pricing, and saw the Sprint version had a 3.5mm jack, but I wasn't aware I would have to give up my Bing/Google Maps and conference calling.
If this is a limitation in CDMA itself, then how on earth can anyone claim this is better than GSM? And also, if this is a limitation of CDMA itself, does anyone know what I would need to do in order to reverse this and port my numbers back to AT&T? Is that even possible or would I have to open a new account? Or if I port to T-Mobile, how long do i have to wait for Sprint to give me a refund on the 4 Touch Pro 2's I just bought?
I guess not too many people have owned the GSM version and the CDMA version, so you don't really see posts mentioning this stuff before you buy the CDMA version. After using the GSM version for several months, I don't know if I can give these features up.

#2 - I click locate me and am found nearly instantly. Takes about 5 seconds for the app to open and gps signal to be acquired. With quick gps it is much quicker.
I know nothing about #1 or #3 sorry.

gsuhr03 said:
#2 - I click locate me and am found nearly instantly. Takes about 5 seconds for the app to open and gps signal to be acquired. With quick gps it is much quicker.
I know nothing about #1 or #3 sorry.
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You have a "Locate Me" option in Bing? What is your GPS set to in Bing's settings menu? I am not getting a locate me option...

I don't know about the conference calling or weather, neither really matter to me, but I can too attest (with Telus at least) that the GPS for Google Maps works very quickly.
Note that, as with any GPS, the first time you acquire a lock it will take a while. Subsequent locks should be much quicker.

As far as the GPS in google, try using the HTC supplied Quick GPS to get the most recent GPS info for your phone, it makes aquiring a signal a lot faster, also you can leave GPS on constantly if you like but it kills the battery the same way leaving bluetooth or wifi on does...
I dont think CDMA is limited o conference call, just not a built in part of the sprint dialer.I didn't even notice it until you brought it up but it's not really a concern for me. I'm sure that once the phone unlocker is out conference calling will be built into a lot of the ROMs people are cooking up...
For the weather I haven't seen an auto location update for CDMA, I haven't used the GSM model so it is interesting to hear that has it, another possible ROM tweak once the unlocker is available.
I will be upgrading my sprint tp2 to have the hd2 or "leo" sense ui which does have the location weather and a lot of other newer things, maybe even conference calling... But if you are not into flashing your phone maybe someone has made or is working on conference call and/or gps weather fix. Goodluck!

SaltyDawg said:
You have a "Locate Me" option in Bing? What is your GPS set to in Bing's settings menu? I am not getting a locate me option...
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in the Bing main menu go to map, and on the maps menu there is an option called, "Track me using GPS", that will put the map onto your location and also allow you to search from your location... alternately on the Bing main menu there is a small line above the icon menu that says "Change Location", click on that then click on "Current GPS"... two different ways to search from your location but by using the map version is does track you as long as you have it selected...

#1: CDMA is limited to 2 calls at once, so you can conference call, but the system requires you to put the first call on hold, then place the second call for conference. It is not as robust as the GSM in this way.
#2: Look for a program called Quick GPS and enable it to download automatically. It will give your GPS an update every week that will assist in speeding up your lock. On my Sprint TP2 I get a lock within 5-10 seconds even indoors!
#3: no idea.

colorado_al said:
#1: CDMA is limited to 2 calls at once, so you can conference call, but the system requires you to put the first call on hold, then place the second call for conference. It is not as robust as the GSM in this way.
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Really? Considering that everything is done telco-side why would there be that limitation?

Re 2 call limit, I don't know the details but that is what I have seen posted here.

Revelation6VIII said:
in the Bing main menu go to map, and on the maps menu there is an option called, "Track me using GPS", that will put the map onto your location and also allow you to search from your location... alternately on the Bing main menu there is a small line above the icon menu that says "Change Location", click on that then click on "Current GPS"... two different ways to search from your location but by using the map version is does track you as long as you have it selected...
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Yeah, I know it works if I have it locate me using the GPS. The problem is, that takes several minutes to get a GPS lock and you can forget about getting a lock indoors.
It seems that Google Maps does indeed work. I just figured it wouldn't because Bing and the weather didn't. But it does. The problem with Google Maps is it is nowhere near as good as Bing.
If you open Google Maps though, notice how it locates you within about 5 seconds or so, even when you are in a basement. That is also what Bing does on a GSM phone.
With Bing being so much better than Google Maps, I would think that it would have full functionality on a WIndows Mobile phone. Especially when Google Maps does have full functionality on the same Windows Mobile phone.
If any of you have access to Microsoft communities, please voice to them that we want Bing to work on the Sprint Touch Pro 2. This is the 3rd largest carrier in the USA, and it is their flagship Windows Mobile phone. Not only that, but Google Maps actually works fine on the same phone, same carrier.

SaltyDawg said:
Yeah, I know it works if I have it locate me using the GPS. The problem is, that takes several minutes to get a GPS lock and you can forget about getting a lock indoors.
It seems that Google Maps does indeed work. I just figured it wouldn't because Bing and the weather didn't. But it does. The problem with Google Maps is it is nowhere near as good as Bing.
If you open Google Maps though, notice how it locates you within about 5 seconds or so, even when you are in a basement. That is also what Bing does on a GSM phone.
With Bing being so much better than Google Maps, I would think that it would have full functionality on a WIndows Mobile phone. Especially when Google Maps does have full functionality on the same Windows Mobile phone.
If any of you have access to Microsoft communities, please voice to them that we want Bing to work on the Sprint Touch Pro 2. This is the 3rd largest carrier in the USA, and it is their flagship Windows Mobile phone. Not only that, but Google Maps actually works fine on the same phone, same carrier.
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I have not had any issue getting a signal using the bing software, I have my phone set to auto download the most recent GPS info using HTC's quick gps, that helps a lot with aquiring a signal in any software...

Revelation6VIII said:
I have not had any issue getting a signal using the bing software, I have my phone set to auto download the most recent GPS info using HTC's quick gps, that helps a lot with aquiring a signal in any software...
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Yeah, I have my quick gps set to auto download too.
I should clarify here...
Tom Tom 7 works fine on my phone. So my GPS is working. Heck, Bing even works if I tell it to find my current location using GPS. Those programs take a few minutes to get a GPS lock though, and will never get a GPS lock if you are in a basement.
Google Maps has my location within about 5 seconds of me opening it- even if I am in a basement. Most of the time Google Maps already has my location by the time the app opens. It uses the cell towers to get your location.
Bing works the same way on a GSM phone. You tap the icon to open it, and it has your position already by the time the app opens. At the most, it will only take 5 seconds or so to locate you- even if you are indoors, in a basement.
You can also go into the settings of Google Maps and tell it to use your GPS, This takes longer than the cell tower location, but gives a more accurate reading. This is aparently the only way to use Bing on a Sprint Touch Pro 2.

On Verizon, Bing works just as fast for me as Google maps. The auto update weather is a function of the version of Touchflo 3d that is shipping with Windows Mobile 6.5 on the A&T phone.you are not going to see it on the Sprint phone until Sprint or the hacking community get that phone updated. For Sprint, their CEO is saying the beginning of 2010. For Verizon, we are hoping in the next couple of weeks.

Techitrucker said:
On Verizon, Bing works just as fast for me as Google maps. The auto update weather is a function of the version of Touchflo 3d that is shipping with Windows Mobile 6.5 on the A&T phone.you are not going to see it on the Sprint phone until Sprint or the hacking community get that phone updated. For Sprint, their CEO is saying the beginning of 2010. For Verizon, we are hoping in the next couple of weeks.
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FYI, the weather app I was talking about is on the Unlocked European version, running the stock WM 6.1 (WWE) and I used it on AT&T in the USA.
As for the Bing, I did some searching after I started this thread, and I found this- posted by a Microsoft rep on 9-21-2009, on a Microsoft owned forum:
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/.../thread/1a253558-b033-48da-9158-d45b618a6cd2/
"In case this might also help: The Bing team has been tracking and isolating this issue. They reported to me today that Bing does not work with CDMA at this time but they are continuing to investigate what they can do including collaboration with carriers. Note that some CDMA carriers lock GPS/Locate Me for 911 use only, hence some of this limitation issue."
So if yours is working as fast as your Google Maps, you probably have issues with your Google Maps too...

It would be far to easy to say that Microsoft sucks.... but come-on... they've known about issues with finding people on CDMA for months now and there is no sign of a fix. Google can lock on to a CDMA signal and give an approximate location - Why can't Bing?
The market for smartphones was Microsoft's to lose and they have done a marvelous job of doing just that. How can companys with much less resources put forward the amazing operating systems like Apple, Palm and Google and even Nokia, while MS just sits on its hands and loses its market. My next phone will NOT be a Windows phone.

seamus24 said:
It would be far to easy to say that Microsoft sucks.... but come-on... they've known about issues with finding people on CDMA for months now and there is no sign of a fix. Google can lock on to a CDMA signal and give an approximate location - Why can't Bing?
The market for smartphones was Microsoft's to lose and they have done a marvelous job of doing just that. How can companys with much less resources put forward the amazing operating systems like Apple, Palm and Google and even Nokia, while MS just sits on its hands and loses its market. My next phone will NOT be a Windows phone.
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I just hope they get it together. There is no reason why Google Maps should be getting tower location info and Bing can't.

The Imagio that I played with had the Location Weather just like my cooked TP, so I'm guessing you just need to wait for a new ROM. Also, you can hack in a ROM but you can't hack in a 3.5mm jack

i think hes talking about the cell tower triangulation that GSM can do which soon as u get a data connection its finds ur position instantly withing something like 2300meters. im not sure if CDMA can do that. but it is useful somewhat if u dont have a GPS signal it gives u a general location or can search for things nearby

It's called Assisted GPS and both GPRS and CDMA can do it. Telus' CDMA is within 1200ft or 800ft from experience depending on the number of towers it can see.

Telek said:
It's called Assisted GPS and both GPRS and CDMA can do it. Telus' CDMA is within 1200ft or 800ft from experience depending on the number of towers it can see.
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It may technically be possible for CDMA to do it, but the Bing app can't do it on CDMA devices. This is a known limitation that a Microsoft rep posted about over on the Bing forums...

GPS Fix - new possible settings

This might be my first post ever, however, long time lurker on the boards.
I think I have a potential fix for the GPS issue with the Captivate. I don’t think this is the same as the “quick fix” found elsewhere on these and other the boards. I am not sure what (if any) 'side effects' there are to this.
My phone previously had the AT&T/Samsung fix from late September applied, although it didn’t seem to help.
Get to the Lbs test menu; previous available through *#*#1472365#*#*. However, if you previously installed the recent AT&T/Samsung (supposed fix) for the Captivate, you can’t get to the menu through the dialer. Use Anycut from market to get to the Lbs test screen.
My GPS now gets a great lock about 30 seconds.
BTW, I am not root….
YMMV. You should record your original settings prior to making these changes, just in case you need to revert.
Standard Disclaimer; I am not at fault for any issues this causes your device…..
Now, down to the settings that I use:
In Lbs test menu:
I “deleted GPS data”
Application Settings
– Session Type: Tracking
– Test Mode : S/W Test
– Operation Mode: MS Based
– Start Mode: Cold Start
– GPS Plus: Off
– Dynamic Accuracy: On
– Accuracy: 50
– Use Skyhook: Off
– Use PC Tool: Off
SUPL/CP Settings
- Server FQDN Type: Auto Config
- Server [leave what is autopulated]
- Server Port [leave was is autopopulated]
- Supl Secure Socket: On
- AGPS Mode: SUPL
Reboot.
Use GPS Test from Market, or the The “Get Position Test” menu from Lbs screen to validate.
WIFI Problem:
One thing I have noticed is that depending on the settings above, wifi (if on) sometimes inhibits the ability to see more than 1 satellite. I think the problems with GPS are overall related to Wifi in some way.
If you do not have luck with above settings, turn wifi off and see what happens.

I only had to change a couple of the settings but this is working nicely so far...Ill try again over the next day or so in various situations and report back.
Changed:
Op Mode to MS Based
Start Mode to Cold
Turned off GPS Plus
Secure Socket to off
Thanks!

I'll admit some of this seems counter-intuitive, but at this point anything is worth a shot.I'll let you know how it goes!
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You don't need to download anything to access the Lbs test. Just type *#*#3214789650#*#* in the dialer and you will get access. Works with JH7 and Froyo.

Before anyone else reads this and declares their GPS fixed, they should read at least the first post of this thread completely. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789383 If you understand what is being said by that post, then you can offer GPS solutions. The only thing you have changed is AGPS settings. While those settings will get you a lock, they don't help out with accuracy. If you really want to test your GPS, you have to turn off the use wireless networks feature, take it outside and see how well it works then.
Everything that has been said in this thread has been said elsewhere and is not a solution.

Nope, it's definitely not fixed...but it did give me a better lock than before. Same old...
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Well if its not a fix then it is most definitely better...I can get a lock in ~20 seconds where as before it might not even come close.

l7777 said:
Before anyone else reads this and declares their GPS fixed, they should read at least the first post of this thread completely. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789383 If you understand what is being said by that post, then you can offer GPS solutions. The only thing you have changed is AGPS settings. While those settings will get you a lock, they don't help out with accuracy. If you really want to test your GPS, you have to turn off the use wireless networks feature, take it outside and see how well it works then.
Everything that has been said in this thread has been said elsewhere and is not a solution.
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Additionally, a lock is not enough to say it works. Take it for a drive along with another GPS device - use Google my tracks or some other tool to record your path. Even use GPS test and watch your MPH, direction and location.
You will find that it is not fixed. It works OK sometimes, but many times it is behind or inaccurate.

msinkovich said:
Well if its not a fix then it is most definitely better...I can get a lock in ~20 seconds where as before it might not even come close.
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You will have to do that every week as your cached GPS data expires. And you can literally use any settings as long as you can use the lbstestmode to accquire a lock. That's all you need to do (accquire your first lock and it will cache the data for 5 to 7 days).

Any "fix" that involves "settings" isn't a "fix" at all since it demonstrates an utter lack of what the real problem is and how GPS fundamentally works.
The real "fix" won't come in the form of settings. Any purported settings "fix" is snake oil.

I've given up on GPS a while ago.
It's a fringe feature anyway.

I never have "use wireless networks on" and gps works good enough. It may not be perfect but everytime ive used it it has got me where i need to go no problems. It may jump off track or be slow to turn for a second but it still gets me to wherever just fine.
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If I read this correctly your turning off skyhook ? I read this http://www.skyhookwireless.com/howitworks/, and to me you need it turned on for urban areas and in the city need wi-fi turned on because of the occlusions caused by buildings and such...?
Mac

roadrash7 said:
I never have "use wireless networks on" and gps works good enough.
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That option has nothing to do with GPS. 'Use Wireless Networks' is actually quite useful for location aware apps like Google Maps, Places, Speed Test etc. where an accurate but slow GPS lock may not be needed (or even possible if you're underground or inside a concrete building). This option enables those apps to use cell tower or wi-fi signal trianglation to get a quick estimation of your current location so that apps can give you relavent information, i.e. nearby gas stations or resaurants. It has nothing to do with aGPS either.

MikeyMike01 said:
I've given up on GPS a while ago.
It's a fringe feature anyway.
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You have to be kidding saying its a feature right? I can't believe how many say that its a feature and that it is ok that Samsung is screwing them ( along with placebo updates) . I myself love and would like a Galaxy S phone or even the new Focus 7, but its looking like it too has GPS issues from early reports with the Omnia 7.
I know most of you guys are already locked in with your carrier and don't have much choice with the GPS issue but its not a feature, its a valuable function just like placing calls, sending emails, texting, etc.. If you don't care about this, then you should of bought a Razor flip phone.
I have been keeping up with this because I really want to see Samsung resolve this and make right.
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So the only reason you need a phone is for the GPS? Otherwise just stay with my 1996 model flip phone? Just...wow!
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I think their point is that it is an advertised function of the phone and we would like to work properly.
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GimpyLeg said:
So the only reason you need a phone is for the GPS? Otherwise just stay with my 1996 model flip phone? Just...wow!
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My reasons for a working GPS are as follows:
Pinpoint your location, get turn-by-turn directions to restaurants, businesses and other destinations, location-based mobile games, social networking sites, real-time position tracking, lost or stolen phone tracking, etc., etc., etc..
What I am saying is just quit making excuses for Samsung and demand what you paid for! There are people on here who would really like for their GPS to be working and rightfully so.

Oh, I agree that it should work as advertised. Can't say Samsung is ' screwing' me because they can't get it right. Would have bought the phone if I knew about it beforehand anyway. There are many other features that led me to the Cappy. Samsung does need to fix the problem and I hope they do so soon. Buy I won't try discourage anyone from Samsung products in the meanwhile.
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wsantiagow said:
My reasons for a working GPS are as follows:
Pinpoint your location, get turn-by-turn directions to restaurants, businesses and other destinations, location-based mobile games, social networking sites, real-time position tracking, lost or stolen phone tracking, etc., etc., etc..
What I am saying is just quit making excuses for Samsung and demand what you paid for! There are people on here who would really like for their GPS to be working and rightfully so.
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The solution to the GPS problem is quite simple, but most people still don't see it.
If 100% accuracy and < 10 second fixes are more important to you than the rest of the Galaxy S features, then you do not want a Galaxy S phone. Either return the one you have or don't buy it. For most people, that good of a GPS is a bonus and not a requirement.
The GPS problems are not undocumented, anyone reading any reviews for the phone will realize that the GPS is not as good as other devices. Even if they don't realize it before they buy it, they have 30 days to return it. Samsung may or may not ever get the problem worked out since phones have such a short life cycle. *****ing about it in thread after thread, online petitions, and idle threats of legal action will have absolutely no impact on Samsung.

GPS queation

Hello folks,
Just got my gear s3 classic, love it, much prefer it over the frontier. The only question I have about the watch is how does the gps work on the watch? It seems the only way I can get my location on google maps and directions is through my phone. Doesn't the watch has its own gps? I would love if someone can explain that. Cheers!

From the manual:
Location
Some apps may require location services to be turned
on for full functionality.
1. From the Apps screen, rotate the bezel to Settings.
2. Tap Connections > Location.
3. Tap Location again to enable, and select a mode.
•GPS & wireless networks: Use GPS and wireless networks.
•Wireless networks: Use wireless networks only.
•GPS: Use GPS only.

Thanks, I know how to turn it on or off, I will be more specific, for instance, why does the watch need my phone location in order to get my altitude above sea level? Thanks.
Cheers!

Dave23456 said:
Thanks, I know how to turn it on or off, I will be more specific, for instance, why does the watch need my phone location in order to get my altitude above sea level? Thanks.
Cheers!
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Unless you have the Frontier LTE version and are connected to the cellular network, the watch needs your phone in order to use the internet. The watch sends your location data and receives back the altitude.

TScottTX said:
Unless you have the Frontier LTE version and are connected to the cellular network, the watch needs your phone in order to use the internet. The watch sends your location data and receives back the altitude.
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Hey, fully understood the thing is though, shouldn't it be possible for the watch to be connected to the phone via Bluetooth, enable the gps on the watch and get barometer info? Why does the phone location needs to be turned on too? Cheers!

Dave23456 said:
Hello folks,
Just got my gear s3 classic, love it, much prefer it over the frontier. The only question I have about the watch is how does the gps work on the watch? It seems the only way I can get my location on google maps and directions is through my phone. Doesn't the watch has its own gps? I would love if someone can explain that. Cheers!
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The GPS works just fine but there are not many apps that have been written to use it - HERE WeGo uses it.

Set up altitude, but "Network unavailable"?

When I selected "Calibrate now" after few seconds show up notification: "Network unavailable"
and next time will show: "Can't get a sea level air pressure reading for your location. Enter manually?"
Data/internet connection working on News, Weather apps. This behavior is same, WiFi or bluetooth connection.
Does anybody have any idea how to fix this bug?
SM-R760
Tizen Version 4.0.0.2
R760XXU2DSA1

deffyplus said:
When I selected "Calibrate now" after few seconds show up notification: "Network unavailable"
and next time will show: "Can't get a sea level air pressure reading for your location. Enter manually?"
Data/internet connection working on News, Weather apps. This behavior is same, WiFi or bluetooth connection.
Does anybody have any idea how to fix this bug?
SM-R760
Tizen Version 4.0.0.2
R760XXU2DSA1
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Hi,
I had the same issue. Uninstalled the Wear application from phone and installed again.
Bingo..
Hope this helps.

I'm having this issue too. Ive tried reinstalling everything and resetting the watch. Nothing seems to be fixing it. Looking at the reviews of the alt-barometer app in the Samsung store seems to suggest the issue is widespread.

Have the same issue too. I think it's a problem of the defined server in the app which doesn't respond anymore. They should update the app...

Hi, i have exactly same problem after update to tizen 4.0. Have you some solutions?

Same problem , too. Last update 14.2.2019
I have noticed today at my job that I was at 188m, and when it worked I was less than 50m.
Same thing after reinstalling "wear", maybe worst, I didn't had backup

Same problem here after Tizen 4.0.

Same problem. Also affects Hiking Activity in S-Health on the watch. (It can't detect altitude so whole activity is broken showing "0km walked", "--" instead altitude and wrong calories). Tried every combination of reseting watch (with and without backup restore), reinstalling wear app and all plugins on phone and reinstalling altimeter app on watch. Even reflashed firmware via NetOdin. Also tried disabling adblock on phone in case some url gets blocked. No difference).
I'm also starting to think this have to do with predefined altitude server altimeter is contacting being down and not responding.
I had enough fiddling with this but if someone is determined they can try downgrade back to 3.0.0.2 to see if problem persist. Or try debugging the watch to see what is actually happening behind the calibrate request. Maybe even use packet sniffer.
SM-R760
Tizen Version 4.0.0.2
R760XXU2DSA1
BTU (UK) region

It must really be a widespread problem. The same here after the update to Tizen 4.0.2. I have made several hard resets of the watch, the only thing I have not done is phone hard reset. Not going to suffer this not knowing if it helps. I was solving more problems, so I have made several hard resets of the watch. For instance, SOME of the incoming calls were not vibrating on the watch. But after the first hard reset after the update the altimeter started working the second day I think!!! I thought it was really an issue connected with unavailibility of a server somewhere. I was solving more important issues, so I have made other hard resets and since then the altimeter jut won't work...

Same problem after upgrade to Tizen 4. Tommorow i trying downgrade to Tizen 3.
SM-R770
Tizen Version 4.0.0.2
Poland

I had the same problem. After several tries is now working. All I had to do was set the location to "high precision " on my phone (note 8) and after 4-5 times the watch will update automatically. Also I went outside.

I tried today and a get altitude measurement! I turned off and on my location on phone. But... I got lucky only one time. I tried 5 minutes later, and get "network unavailable"... Strange...

Problem
I have the same problem..

agawron91 said:
I tried today and a get altitude measurement! I turned off and on my location on phone. But... I got lucky only one time. I tried 5 minutes later, and get "network unavailable"... Strange...
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I had the same experience today. At 1 a.m. of our local time (Europe) I got one calibration but since then - nothing. It makes me believe that the problem is not in our watches or phones but on the side of a server somewhere. Were they testing something?

It seems that reinstalling the app would help. I have done it, and for now it's all good
again, network not available , one or two updates and gone again.

Another +1 here - I have just discovered that my S3 Frontier is doing exactly the same thing. Uninstalling the companion app on the phone and reinstalling it hasn't worked for me, the intermittent nature of it (based on previous posts) would suggest some back end network issue at the end of whoever provides that data.

deffyplus said:
When I selected "Calibrate now" after few seconds show up notification: "Network unavailable"
and next time will show: "Can't get a sea level air pressure reading for your location. Enter manually?"
Data/internet connection working on News, Weather apps. This behavior is same, WiFi or bluetooth connection.
Does anybody have any idea how to fix this bug?
SM-R760
Tizen Version 4.0.0.2
R760XXU2DSA1
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As I posted before, same happened to me the first time after the update to Tizen 4
I had to turn location to high accuracy and had to go outdoors, and after 4-5 tries the altitude is calibrated and working perfectly now. One thing I noticed is that you need to set your phone location on all the time with at least "device only" option.
GOTO_GOSUB said:
Another +1 here - I have just discovered that my S3 Frontier is doing exactly the same thing. Uninstalling the companion app on the phone and reinstalling it hasn't worked for me, the intermittent nature of it (based on previous posts) would suggest some back end network issue at the end of whoever provides that data.
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Seems that the data is provided by the android location services, not by your data/wifi; in this case you need to have the location on with "device only", seems to solved my problem, BTW I havent noticed more battery drain than using "battery save" mode.

Seems that the data is provided by the android location services, not by your data/wifi; in this case you need to have the location on with "device only", seems to solved my problem, BTW I havent noticed more battery drain than using "battery save" mode.
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Thanks for this tip - I missed your earlier comment so repeating it here again is useful and does seem to provide a work-around. Have a "Thanks" on me.
Since this is a recent change I wonder if Samsung got their device class confused and are trying to get the watch to aquire a "true" GPS fix rather than using the phone if available, but got it wrong with the latest build so now the watch has acquired a dependency it didn't have before.
My S3 has Wi-fi (but turned off) and no carrier / network (ie mobile phone) support and that used to work perfectly well with my phone's location services set to "High Accuracy" over the Bluetooth link which should surely be enough for any non mission critical consumer device since that uses network location, Wi-fi and GPS. I can see why someone might want a high degree level of accuracy on their watch but then surely the watch should be acquiring GPS itself which is why I wonder if Samsung were trying to be smart and got their wires crossed.
I will check out the battery usage implications of restricting my location to GPS at a later date, but I am mostly indoors and a) don't use the altimeter all that much and b) won't get much of a GPS fix in the concrete and steel bunker that is my office so I am expecting it to be an absolute battery sucker.
Thanks again for the tip about changing the location services on the phone.

GOTO_GOSUB said:
Thanks for this tip - I missed your earlier comment so repeating it here again is useful and does seem to provide a work-around. Have a "Thanks" on me.
Since this is a recent change I wonder if Samsung got their device class confused and are trying to get the watch to aquire a "true" GPS fix rather than using the phone if available, but got it wrong with the latest build so now the watch has acquired a dependency it didn't have before.
My S3 has Wi-fi (but turned off) and no carrier / network (ie mobile phone) support and that used to work perfectly well with my phone's location services set to "High Accuracy" over the Bluetooth link which should surely be enough for any non mission critical consumer device since that uses network location, Wi-fi and GPS. I can see why someone might want a high degree level of accuracy on their watch but then surely the watch should be acquiring GPS itself which is why I wonder if Samsung were trying to be smart and got their wires crossed.
I will check out the battery usage implications of restricting my location to GPS at a later date, but I am mostly indoors and a) don't use the altimeter all that much and b) won't get much of a GPS fix in the concrete and steel bunker that is my office so I am expecting it to be an absolute battery sucker.
Thanks again for the tip about changing the location services on the phone.
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My S3 is exactly the same as yours, and I dont have wifi or GPS on either, it gets the location straight from the phone, I checked it and when I go to altitude on my watch I can see that the icon of "searching location" goes on in my phone.
I am pretty sure that the GPS of the watch doesnt work by itself because I use it to run everyday (with my phone) and is tracking the metrics and altitude just well, also the location is locked and working, I run 5kms per day and I get 3 and a half days of battery and when I run with the watch alone I can get 1 and a half day (cause GPS and Spotify).
BTW, where I live/work there are no high structures or buildings miles around, maybe it means faster location.
Regards.

I found solution that help me in reddit: "Switch on "location history" in Google account. Should help"

Question How to disable/stop GPS on watch when using GPS on phone?

This has been bothering me for a bit now. When using the GPS (Google Maps) Navigation on my phone, the GPS on my GW4C turns on too. If I stop the navigation on my watch, it stops it on my phone! ARGH!
This was never an issue on any of my Tizen watches before. Has anyone come across this too? If so, how did you fix it?

I didn't think Google Maps was option on Tizen watches.
Anyway, this is how you fix. While in the google map app on watch touch the search icon. Then go to settings and then auto-launch. You can choose when watch auto-launches from phone. I have it off for driving and on for walking and cycling.

Sadly, none of Wear OS apps can use location data from the phone. I've tested this using Google Maps, Strava, and my own apps. All of these apps stop working if you disable GPS on the watch, even when the GPS of the connected phone is on. This behavior contradicts the official documentation https://developer.android.com/training/wearables/data/wear-location-detection
On a watch, get location data using the FusedLocationProviderClient. The FLP automatically uses location data from the phone if the watch lacks a GPS sensor.
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I'd prefer if smartwatch apps used phone's GPS because it's much more accurate and because the battery wouldn't drain as fast on the watch. This was easy to implement on Tizen watches, but seems to be impossible on the Galaxy Watch 4. I've tried both the Fused Location Provider and requestLocationUpdates() methods, but nothing worked.
Does anyone have any suggestions?