I am sure many of you are using the Modded Google Camera with HDR+ apk from https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-customization-raw-support/
can you guys share your settings giving the best image quality on your Galaxy S8?
I think this camera produces significantly better pics than the Stock S8 camera app.
Hmm I'd be interested in seeing this too.
I have tried it however found the shots to be quite noisy/pixelated so left it alone.
Which settings do you currently use to get "significantly better pics than the Stock S8 camera app"?
I use Pixel 2XL because it is a nice picture, but a bit less detailed with less noise and smaller file size. Nexus 6P is best for detailed pictures. For HDR+ Perimeters the higher it is, the longer it takes to process. I personally use High. Then also try Pixel 2016 HDR because its good. Pixel 2017 also works but might be slower. I cant really tell the difference between them. Here is a link to all the latest versions with recommended settings. https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
It does, but it pales in comparison to the modded stock camera that you can install with root. It does [email protected], [email protected] and 4k photos in 4:3 (along with a ton more options down the line)
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I found this on ONE PLUS 5 forum
A snapdragon processor is required.
Fc on exynos
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/google-camera-hdr-t3655215
Also FC on S7 flat snapdragon
From what I read somewhere, usually stock camera apps are better since they are tailored to the hardware.
dagger1 said:
From what I read somewhere, usually stock camera apps are better since they are tailored to the hardware.
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Yep, due to touchwiz framework / drivers for the camera you're always going to get better quality from the stock Samsung camera, all others are grainy and lower quality
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From what I read somewhere, usually stock camera apps are better since they are tailored to the hardware.
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literally the reason why I dont want to switch to AOSP/LOS based roms. Lightweight is nice but what is it if the photo quality sucks.
omar9x said:
Also FC on S7 flat snapdragon
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Try With an S8 rom.
dagger1 said:
From what I read somewhere, usually stock camera apps are better since they are tailored to the hardware.
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Exactly, but Hdr+ is better than Samsung's app in low light and back light.
achour7 said:
Exactly, but Hdr+ is better than Samsung's app in low light and back light.
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Not quite. HDR+ is a Google-specific product and as such is tuned to Google's products. HDR+ on our phones would be worse than stock because our camera sensors are different than the Pixel's or Nexus phones'. Look at the examples from the S8 where they were able to get this camera app working -- the low-light shots are noticeably worse than stock. This is because the HDR+ processing is not fine-tuned specifically for the S8 camera sensor. Noise profiles, especially, are very unique from sensor to sensor.
Image stacking and averaging, which is one of they key components to the HDR+ process, COULD potentially be a better way to handle low light, but it is significantly more CPU-intensive and thus a little slower. Remember, our low-light shots on the S7 right now are instant. Perhaps Samsung will implement advanced stacking in future phones. But so far, it has not been needed because they're using good camera sensors with smart post-processing.
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Not quite. HDR+ is a Google-specific product and as such is tuned to Google's products. HDR+ on our phones would be worse than stock because our camera sensors are different than the Pixel's or Nexus phones'. Look at the examples from the S8 where they were able to get this camera app working -- the low-light shots are noticeably worse than stock. This is because the HDR+ processing is not fine-tuned specifically for the S8 camera sensor. Noise profiles, especially, are very unique from sensor to sensor.
Image stacking and averaging, which is one of they key components to the HDR+ process, COULD potentially be a better way to handle low light, but it is significantly more CPU-intensive and thus a little slower. Remember, our low-light shots on the S7 right now are instant. Perhaps Samsung will implement advanced stacking in future phones. But so far, it has not been needed because they're using good camera sensors with smart post-processing.
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I didn't test it on my S7 "exynos" and didn't see how is image quality on the S8 but on the One+ 3, G cam is much better than stock.
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Not quite. HDR+ is a Google-specific product and as such is tuned to Google's products. HDR+ on our phones would be worse than stock because our camera sensors are different than the Pixel's or Nexus phones'. Look at the examples from the S8 where they were able to get this camera app working -- the low-light shots are noticeably worse than stock. This is because the HDR+ processing is not fine-tuned specifically for the S8 camera sensor. Noise profiles, especially, are very unique from sensor to sensor.
Image stacking and averaging, which is one of they key components to the HDR+ process, COULD potentially be a better way to handle low light, but it is significantly more CPU-intensive and thus a little slower. Remember, our low-light shots on the S7 right now are instant. Perhaps Samsung will implement advanced stacking in future phones. But so far, it has not been needed because they're using good camera sensors with smart post-processing.
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Median stacking is a proven effective way to handle low light problems. Those problems are noise and dynamic range. It's not just done in the Google pixel. It's been done for years in astrophotography
There has been a 3rd party app out for YEARS now that has worked on some S7s that does precisely what Pixel. HDR+ does ...it's called Cortex Camera. It's buggy and very slow and doesn't work on all cameras , but results I have seen out of an S7 are far superior to any stock jpeg or raw out of the S7. Does not work on all S7s In ideal conditions , it's better than anything out there.
If a sensor is tiny....like ALL phone cameras to date, it is going to be noisy in low light. The only way to maintain detail and mitigate noise and allow higher dynamic range is something like median stacking...even at base iso and unlimited shutter.
I use the app "Open Camera" in darker settings and find it does a better job than the stock camera on my Samsung Galaxy S7. It also has a dedicated picture vs video mode which is good for my selfie stick/tripod.
Also has waaaaaaaaaaaay more options.
So, will this work on a Stock S7e ?
Working s7 930f thanks
You can clearly tell that the camera app on the s8 is trash why is it so bad? Cant they optimize the camera?
Just took the pictures with the same settings without flash left one is stock samsung right one is google pixel 2 app port
Could you share the APK you've used?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=75118407&postcount=252
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Could you share the APK you've used?
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There doesn't seem to be portrait mode. How do I turn that on?
Stock is better in everything except portrait..
pogi.paul0119 said:
Stock is better in everything except portrait..
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Well, I wouldn't say that the stock app is "trash". Last year it was one of the best cameras and now it's trash? Probably not
Stock Cam still takes great pics in normal situations. And in low light it's better than the Gcam-port, because there is less noise in the stock app. But when taking portrait or HDR pictures... Damn that google cam is good!
By the way: There are some versions of the port, where HDR+ works even better than it does in the version with portrait mode(I'm on Exynos). I'm using "Gcam...1.3dAllinone". You can google this version or just wait one or two weeks until, there is a version, that can do both great.
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Well, I wouldn't say that the stock app is "trash". Last year it was one of the best cameras and now it's trash? Probably not
Stock Cam still takes great pics in normal situations. And in low light it's better than the Gcam-port, because there is less noise in the stock app. But when taking portrait or HDR pictures... Damn that google cam is good!
By the way: There are some versions of the port, where HDR+ works even better than it does in the version with portrait mode(I'm on Exynos). I'm using "Gcam...1.3dAllinone". You can google this version or just wait one or two weeks until, there is a version, that can do both great.
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If you can post photos from two cameras .. so we can compare the two..
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Stock is better in everything except portrait..
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the second is clearly better !!
Gcam port is not even better. It's way better than stock Samsung camera apk. Gcam produces more natural pics. Not oversharpened like Sam does. Just try it and judge by yourself. Easy.
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I guess it's subjective how you feel about quality.
Attached are both HDR images, one with the latest stable GCam (without portrait mode) and the other taken with the Samsung camera. Both taken without messing around with any settings other than enabling HDR.
The image with the Samsung camera is much bright and less compressed with an ISO of 200, whereas the the GCam image is darker, way more compressed and an ISO of 349.
I noticed the Samsung camera has a faster shutter speed which is interesting considering how bright the image is.
Anyway I'll let you judge the rest for yourselves.
What is the size of those pics? With highest settings i got about 11 MB from Gcam and about 4 MB from Samcam. And try to take photos from same position.
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maderos said:
What is the size of those pics? With highest settings i got about 11 MB from Gcam and about 4 MB from Samcam. And try to take photos from same position.
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Around 6MB with SamCam and 3MB with GCam.
I have just downloaded the 1.5Beta2 from Arnova so will test this out. Not sure why the image flipped when I uploaded it but they were both same position.
Will post more images after more tests. Probably some outdoor tests.
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Around 6MB with SamCam and 3MB with GCam.
I have just downloaded the 1.5Beta2 from Arnova so will test this out. Not sure why the image flipped when I uploaded it but they were both same position.
Will post more images after more tests. Probably some outdoor tests.
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BTW: HDR is best used in situations, where you have very bright and very dark areas in the same picture. For example taking a photo against the sun. That's where Google's HDR+ really shines. At least in my opinion.
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What is the size of those pics? With highest settings i got about 11 MB from Gcam and about 4 MB from Samcam. And try to take photos from same position.
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Ok, much better results with GCam this time round. First pic is the GCam result with the following output:
ISO: 50
Shutter speed: 1/454
File size: 2.7MB
SamCam result output:
ISO: 40
Shutter speed: 1/564
File size: 7.8MB
Really interesting to see better colour with GCam. On closer inspection I see that SamCam produces better detail. Might be to do with B-S-G settings maybe.
My GCam B-S-G:
Config HDR+: Nexus 6 Auto
Model: Pixel 2XL
HDR+ Parameters: Default
Let me know if any changes may produce better results.
Otherwise I'm pleasantly surprised. Let me know your thoughts.
Try to use higher setting for hdr+ mode. I got "high" and 100% output jpg file.
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Try to use higher setting for hdr+ mode. I got "high" and 100% output jpg file.
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I've now switched cams to the one I've linked to in my GDrive. It allows me to use Pixel 2XL as the Model and Nexus 6 Hdr+ Auto as the Config. HDR+ is set to Super High and Final jpg quality is set to 100%
Camera: MGC_5.1.016_7.0+C2API_v.1.3d_AllinOne.apk
Images are higher quality and higher in size with this version.
More photos to come later
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I've now switched cams to the one I've linked to in my GDrive. It allows me to use Pixel 2XL as the Model and Nexus 6 Hdr+ Auto as the Config. HDR+ is set to Super High and Final jpg quality is set to 100%
Camera: MGC_5.1.016_7.0+C2API_v.1.3d_AllinOne.apk
Images are higher quality and higher in size with this version.
More photos to come later
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thanks for sharing.
for HDR+ (not working portrait it's ok), tried from your link above, but can't get it work. any ideas? mine exynos version. only black screen.
for portrait im using from below link and it's work. in fact it's HDR function also works (no portrait from selfie cam yet though).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...camera-hdr-t3687312/post75118407#post75118407
Mine results with Galaxy S8 Active T-Mobile
I attached my results using stock and G-Cam. The properties of the pictures are attached too. The G-Cam has an orange basketball mark on the upper right corner.
Both have HDR enabled. I couldn't tell the difference though. ?
Hey guys, I'm new here, so I'm sorry if this has already been covered.
I have an unrooted international version of the One plus 6, with the pixel camera app side loaded.
I was just tinkering in the camera settings and I noticed that the pixel camera will, by default, only capture images in both 4;3 & 16;9 resolutions, utilizing anywhere from 2.8mp - 12mp on the rear camera.
With that in mind, one could make the assumption that the software isn't utilizing the potential of the hardware. (I'm also curious to know how the second lens is cooperating with it).
Basically, I'm just wondering if there is a way to fully utilize both the 20mp and 16mp sensors within the pixel camera..
Any feedback would be awesome! Also, if I'm being dumb by asking this because I'm not educated in this subject, then please, enlighten me so that I may learn ?
Thank you guys!
I don't think it's possible, for a simple reason : The Pixel 3 only has one sensor, and only 12 MP. So, GCam only uses one sensor, and handles 12 MP
But to be honest, it still produces pictures that are vastly superior to the OOS cam, so, for me at least, not a big deal !
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Use xtrme's gcam mod! Though the settings say that the limit is 12 MP, my photos thus far have always been saving in 16.3 MP (100% JPEG quality vs 15.9 MP on 95% default) unless you do some zooming (it will be scaled back to 12 MP but still very very usable). AFAIK that variant of GCam was specifically tinkered to work with OP6.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog370/
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Use xtrme's gcam mod! Though the settings say that the limit is 12 MP, my photos thus far have always been saving in 16.3 MP (100% JPEG quality vs 15.9 MP on 95% default) unless you do some zooming (it will be scaled back to 12 MP but still very very usable). AFAIK that variant of GCam was specifically tinkered to work with OP6.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog370/
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The Xtrme's version is indeed pretty good ! Used it for some time.
I feel like the Advanced 1.4 from Arnova is better though, it even has Focus Tracking, which is the best thing ever
Just checked it, the photos save at 16.3 MP with 100% JPEG quality on 1.4 Advanced too. Note that i'm using the OP6 config that is available for it.
Still don't know if it uses both cameras though. On GCam and OOS Cam, the viewfinder only uses the bottom camera, that seems normal.
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The Xtrme's version is indeed pretty good ! Used it for some time.
I feel like the Advanced 1.4 from Arnova is better though, it even has Focus Tracking, which is the best thing ever
Just checked it, the photos save at 16.3 MP with 100% JPEG quality on 1.4 Advanced too. Note that i'm using the OP6 config that is available for it.
Still don't know if it uses both cameras though. On GCam and OOS Cam, the viewfinder only uses the bottom camera, that seems normal.
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Do you perhaps have a link for Advanced 1.4 from Arnova?
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Do you perhaps have a link for Advanced 1.4 from Arnova?
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First one, in red
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-arnova8G2/
You can also get the config file, put it in a folder names "GCAM/Configs" on your storage, and double tap near the shutter in the app to enable it ! (The black part between the shutter and the link to the photos app for example)
These are all great suggestions guys, thank you!
Does the advanced 1.4 and the Xtreme mod allow for shooting in raw formats?
I'm trying to set my phone up to be the best point and shoot it can be, for the sole purpose of stock photography. I know both the pixel camera and the oos camera shoot in raw (oos pro mode is a beast and has outperformed the pixel manual settings consistently but is too cumbersome and doesn't shoot in true 16:9)
The front camera resolution is 20 mp and the photos it takes are quite nice. But it apparantly supports pixel binning for low light conditions, but I have never seen it work. Gcam produces way better quality selfies that are 5 mp. So I guess it uses pixel binning or it's just their processing.
Whatever be the case, I want to if anyone has seen pixel binning actually work by the stock camera app.
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The front camera resolution is 20 mp and the photos it takes are quite nice. But it apparantly supports pixel binning for low light conditions, but I have never seen it work. Gcam produces way better quality selfies that are 5 mp. So I guess it uses pixel binning or it's just their processing.
Whatever be the case, I want to if anyone has seen pixel binning actually work by the stock camera app.
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Hi, late reply but worth mentioning. I have been doing my homework looking into why my 20MP front camera takes 5MP like shots. Well this is because there is pixel binning.
The stock camera app does take 20MP shots but the quality is very comparable to 5MP due to pixel binning. All other camera apps have so far produced real 5MP photos. In the end I prefer to keep the other apps and not waste my time with stock camera as it only gives a higher resolution, along with a heavier file, only to get a 5MP quality picture.
I am looking into finding a possible way to get a proper 20MP photo without pixel binning that may produce better quality photos.
I have moto one 5G(UW) , it's have 48 MP camera but due to Pixel binning it comes out with 12MP picture, i want to disable Pixel binning, is there any App that help me out.
That'll be appreciated if you help me out
Hi all,
I have no idea at all about this sort of thing. Assuming there's not a proprietary Samsung framework the Samsung camera app is dependent on, is it at all possible to port the Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra/Note 20 Ultra Camera app the the Mi 10? Given the main camera module is much the same, would it not theoretically work?
Thanks,
K
Why though...?
gcam is miles and miles ahead ..
galr said:
Why though...?
gcam is miles and miles ahead ..
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I disagree. I've used GCam with multiple XML files from here but the quality was never on par with the stock camera. Only the selfie camera seemed to benefit.
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I disagree. I've used GCam with multiple XML files from here but the quality was never on par with the stock camera. Only the selfie camera seemed to benefit.
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I assume you probably used old configs \ gcam versions?
Details wise, there is no comparison - gcam blows stock out of the water.
I do think that stock sometimes handle exposure \ colors better , but you can change gcam configurations to your liking.
No, I haven't used my own configs. As I said in my post I've used multiple XML files to load configs.
At 100% crop, the stock camera resolves much more fine detail than gcam.
EDIT: I used the latest versions linked in this thread.
I've since used the Burial version of the gcam app and I'm getting much better results although I'm not sure it blows the stock app out of the water. I'd still be interested to see how the Samsung camera app goes considering they share the same sensor and the Note 20 Ultra photos from the main camera are much better than the Mi 10 particularly in low light.