Camera AI - HTC U11 Questions & Answers

Did HTC U11 have camera ai chip like google pixel 2?

no
and it is not really that big
yet the pixel 2's chip is not activated yet
we are yet to see wether it's worth it

Same CPU like pixel 2 have u11. I'm thinking it's software business

For U11 the answer is no. We will need to wait for someone who disassemble U11+ bcoz it was indeed the original Pixel 2 XL and may contain the Google Camera ISP chip hidden in it so we might have chance to port the google software for it.

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dammm google pixel 2..undecided...advise needed...

Hi
so i got a u11 already the 4g ram version..and about to order the 6gb ram in blue...
yesterday checked the google pixel2..its colours are horrile..in my opinion..the only thing i like is the screen size.. 5 inch its perfect..
the only complain i have about u11 its cause its big...to fit on my pocket etc...
but the u11 design its way way way better than the pixel 2..and also..pixel 2 comes only with 4gb ram..
what u guys think? order the 6g ram u11 or wait for the pixel 2?
thanks!!!
HcMAX said:
Hi
so i got a u11 already the 4g ram version..and about to order the 6gb ram in blue...
yesterday checked the google pixel2..its colours are horrile..in my opinion..the only thing i like is the screen size.. 5 inch its perfect..
the only complain i have about u11 its cause its big...to fit on my pocket etc...
but the u11 design its way way way better than the pixel 2..and also..pixel 2 comes only with 4gb ram..
what u guys think? order the 6g ram u11 or wait for the pixel 2?
thanks!!!
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If i was in the market for a new phone should I buy Pixel before U11. I have the U11 today.
the only thing for you to go to the pixel over the U11 is if you want 100 percent stock android look other than that in my opinion the 6gb/128 U11 is better
What you mean??
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I have the U11. I'm waiting for the U11 plus to come out before I decide what I'm upgrading to this Fall.
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I have the U11. I'm waiting for the U11 plus to come out before I decide what I'm upgrading to this Fall.
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Me too waiting for plus or mate 10
don't like the fingerprint sensor in the back, but it's personal preference. I like to unlock phone when it's sitting on a desk.
And is the Pixel camera better or is it just the software? I see that U11's camera has a larger aperture 1/1.7 vs Pixel's 1/1.8. Don't know about the sensor pixel size...
The squeeze feature on the Pixel can only launch the Google Assistant? I like it on U11 to launch the camera, quickest way to do so.
HcMAX said:
Hi
so i got a u11 already the 4g ram version..and about to order the 6gb ram in blue...
yesterday checked the google pixel2..its colours are horrile..in my opinion..the only thing i like is the screen size.. 5 inch its perfect..
the only complain i have about u11 its cause its big...to fit on my pocket etc...
but the u11 design its way way way better than the pixel 2..and also..pixel 2 comes only with 4gb ram..
what u guys think? order the 6g ram u11 or wait for the pixel 2?
thanks!!!
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yup, U11 looks much more pretty and I think 4GB ram for this price is real over priced so U11 6GB is probably still the best option. Plus I got dual sim and microSD on U11 which is also important to me.
It looks like pixel 2 only used the same rear camera sensor with U11 now with an improved HDR+ algorithm and software only. U11 Plus 18:9 6" screen will be coming out at Nov/Dec and I believe we will get some updates on camera later.
https://www.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_2_and_pixel_2_xl-review-1665p3.php
https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/4/16405192/new-google-pixel-2-xl-phone-photos-video-hands-on
What made me decided to pick U11 over Pixel1 bcoz I dislike the over saturation color from google and it looks like the same color reproduction found on Pixel 2. For me the color is much more accurate from U11 and I hate the yellow coast everywhere from Pixel1/2.
4GB of RAM is enough IMO... I certainly haven't been able to slow down my U11 w/ 4GB of RAM and I imagine that stock Android has a much smaller footprint than Sense does. The Pixel has a bigger battery and the lack of a SD card doesn't bother me either. I have already pre-ordered the XL and I think my time supporting HTC is over. Unless they can really turn things around, I don't see them garnering any more support from me. There's just much more support on the Pixel side of things and HTC's support, especially when it comes to things like accessories, has been dying for some time. It's been great and I do love my U11, but I just want less hassle and HTC seems to be the red-headed stepchild among the others.

HTC U11+ or Google pixel 2?

Has anyone tried both the google pixel 2 and HTC U11+? What are your experiences and opinions? Which one performs better, in terms of overall performance and quality?
also, in terms of camera, if i will download the google hdr+ camera on the HTC u11+, will it be at par with the google pixel 2?
here in my country, In terms of price, HTC U11+ seems to be the more worthy phone. (HTC U11+ 128gb is just around $20 cheaper than the google pixel 2 64gb variant)
BUT i don't have much information about it and i am afraid that i might regret not getting the pixel 2 instead.
I am so confused on which one i should buy and i assume both of them seems to be a very great phone.
PS: if there are any similar post as this, please feel free to put it here. I can't seem to find any similar post/answers in the search bar.
Thanks in advance for your answers. cheers!
If you're into custom rom and more updates and fast updates and amoled go for pixel 2 ,
chamitobear said:
Has anyone tried both the google pixel 2 and HTC U11+? What are your experiences and opinions? Which one performs better, in terms of overall performance and quality?
also, in terms of camera, if i will download the google hdr+ camera on the HTC u11+, will it be at par with the google pixel 2?
here in my country, In terms of price, HTC U11+ seems to be the more worthy phone. (HTC U11+ 128gb is just around $20 cheaper than the google pixel 2 64gb variant)
BUT i don't have much information about it and i am afraid that i might regret not getting the pixel 2 instead.
I am so confused on which one i should buy and i assume both of them seems to be a very great phone.
PS: if there are any similar post as this, please feel free to put it here. I can't seem to find any similar post/answers in the search bar.
Thanks in advance for your answers. cheers!
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If I were you I would definetly go for HTC U11+, the phone looks great performs really good and then again from the price point of view (not that big of a deal though)
Just in case if you are planning to get a HTC U11+, get the silver one it looks amazing. I got one and its freaking amazing.
I just bought the transparant one and sold my Pixel 2 XL
I was hesitating at some point between the pixel 2 xl and htc u11+, and couldn’t see any big advantage over the u11+ other than the obvious camera and faster software updates.
I was able to handle the pixel 2 xl in Germany and the feel in the hand was kinda “meh”... when the u11+ feels quite premium. Obviously this is just a personal preference, but if you want to compare specs, the u11+ is indeed on top (mainly battery, ram and memory).
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I just bought the transparant one and sold my Pixel 2 XL
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how did you like it so far? no regrets in switching from the pixel to the htc U11+?
chamitobear said:
Has anyone tried both the google pixel 2 and HTC U11+? What are your experiences and opinions? Which one performs better, in terms of overall performance and quality?
also, in terms of camera, if i will download the google hdr+ camera on the HTC u11+, will it be at par with the google pixel 2?
here in my country, In terms of price, HTC U11+ seems to be the more worthy phone. (HTC U11+ 128gb is just around $20 cheaper than the google pixel 2 64gb variant)
BUT i don't have much information about it and i am afraid that i might regret not getting the pixel 2 instead.
I am so confused on which one i should buy and i assume both of them seems to be a very great phone.
PS: if there are any similar post as this, please feel free to put it here. I can't seem to find any similar post/answers in the search bar.
Thanks in advance for your answers. cheers!
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I have both the Pixel 2 XL and the U11+ in this moment.
I was originally going to buy the U11+, but I bought the Pixel 2 XL with a nice offer 2 weeks ago.
Yesterday I bought the U11+ because I'm not happy with the blue issue in the Pixel 2 XL screen.
Phones are similar in many ways, but for me having a blue tint is kind of annoying, so that's why I got the U11+ to test it and see if I like it.
I think that if you can overcome the blue tint issue, you can enjoy a nice phone with the Pixel 2 XL, but for me, each time I see the screen, it makes me sad.
I tried to RMA, but Google said they are not making replacements for blue tint, and I have only 2 more days to decide if I return it or I keep it. For the U11+ I have 2 weeks as probation period.
If you have any specific question, I would answer happily.
I switched pixel 2 XL to HTC and I don't regret it.
i needed a second play device and tested the Pixel 2XL for a few days. decided against the Pixel 2XL (even though it has all the features i was looking for) and tested the OP5T. i returned the OP5T after 2 days use because i was running short on space so i ordered the 4GB/64GB U11+ transparent black. i've had it for a week and it's a keeper for me; n0 storage space issues, great looks, premium feel and that battery! so far it's working well... my only gripe is not being able to use the Google Dialer; it installs fine, but the dialer component always FCs.
If you're still thinking about which Phone to get, this may help you out.
The Pixel 2XL is made by LG, but many suspect that the HTC U11+ was also candidate for being the Pixel 2XL however google decided to stick with LG.
There's some features that make the Pixel better and there's others that make the LG better.
Pro's XL2
- Camera software
- Software update
- Unlimited storage for photo's and videos in the cloud
- Stock ROM
Pro's U11+
- Good camera
- Large battery
- Edge sense
- IP68 water proof
Cons XL2
- Back material will change when put in pockets of denim jeans (overtime)
- blue screen
- burn ins
Cons U11+
- portrait mode
- HTC support (not always the fastest)
- Screen isn't as bright
d.cortez said:
i needed a second play device and tested the Pixel 2XL for a few days. decided against the Pixel 2XL (even though it has all the features i was looking for) and tested the OP5T. i returned the OP5T after 2 days use because i was running short on space so i ordered the 4GB/64GB U11+ transparent black. i've had it for a week and it's a keeper for me; n0 storage space issues, great looks, premium feel and that battery! so far it's working well... my only gripe is not being able to use the Google Dialer; it installs fine, but the dialer component always FCs.
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How did you manager to install the Google Dialer ?, but it doesn't work ? Do you have the simgle SIM version of U11+ ?
I have the Dual SIM version and I can't even install the G Dialer, it gives an error in the installation screen.
I think I read somewhere that the G Dialer is incompatible with all Dual SIM phones, because Google never had a dual SIM one.
YorbenB said:
If you're still thinking about which Phone to get, this may help you out.
The Pixel 2XL is made by LG, but many suspect that the HTC U11+ was also candidate for being the Pixel 2XL however google decided to stick with LG.
There's some features that make the Pixel better and there's others that make the LG better.
Pro's XL2
- Camera software
- Software update
- Unlimited storage for photo's and videos in the cloud
- Stock ROM
Pro's U11+
- Good camera
- Large battery
- Edge sense
- IP68 water proof
Cons XL2
- Back material will change when put in pockets of denim jeans (overtime)
- blue screen
- burn ins
Cons U11+
- portrait mode
- HTC support (not always the fastest)
- Screen isn't as bright
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I will like to add a couple more:
Cons XL2
- Super slow charge
- Random Bluetooth issues
- Slow fingerprint scanner
- Random mail problems
- Mediocre signal
Pro's U11+
- Really nice audio
- Super nice speakers
- A lot of accessories included
About the screen of the U11+, is true that is not bright as many other flagships, but for me is not a problem because I don't like to have a super lamp in front of my eyes; I usually stick with medium brightness always, even on TV and monitor. With the Pixel 2 XL I had the screen at 35% with adaptive brightness and with the U11+ I have it at 50%. I tested yesterday in direct sunlight and I didn't have any issue looking at the screen.
I made some other tests, and overall, the 100% brightness of the U11+ is like ~80% brightness of the Pixel 2 Xl; I think this shouldn't be an issue because the U11+ screen also has HDR10 support, so is more than enough for most people, with the exception if you like really bright displays.
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Galaxo60 said:
I will like to add a couple more:
Cons XL2
- Super slow charge
- Random Bluetooth issues
- Slow fingerprint scanner
- Random mail problems
- Mediocre signal
Pro's U11+
- Really nice audio
- Super nice speakers
- A lot of accessories included
About the screen of the U11+, is true that is not bright as many other flagships, but for me is not a problem because I don't like to have a super lamp in front of my eyes; I usually stick with medium brightness always, even on TV and monitor. With the Pixel 2 XL I had the screen at 35% with adaptive brightness and with the U11+ I have it at 50%. I tested yesterday in direct sunlight and I didn't have any issue looking at the screen.
I made some other tests, and overall, the 100% brightness of the U11+ is like ~80% brightness of the Pixel 2 Xl; I think this shouldn't be an issue because the U11+ screen also has HDR10 support, so is more than enough for most people, with the exception if you like really bright displays.
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Ohh i wasn't aware of these issues just yet, good thing i didn't decide to go for the pixel in the end as it also was a 400 euro increase compared to the U11+.
The slow charging speed, was an issue related to the maximum voltage output i believe. I was under the impression that that was fixed in an update.
The screen brightness will be an issue once summer starts again, when walking or watching something outdoors it'll be annoying.
YorbenB said:
If you're still thinking about which Phone to get, this may help you out.
The Pixel 2XL is made by LG, but many suspect that the HTC U11+ was also candidate for being the Pixel 2XL however google decided to stick with LG.
There's some features that make the Pixel better and there's others that make the LG better.
Pro's XL2
- Camera software
- Software update
- Unlimited storage for photo's and videos in the cloud
- Stock ROM
Pro's U11+
- Good camera
- Large battery
- Edge sense
- IP68 water proof
Cons XL2
- Back material will change when put in pockets of denim jeans (overtime)
- blue screen
- burn ins
Cons U11+
- portrait mode
- HTC support (not always the fastest)
- Screen isn't as bright
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wow thanks for all these. i appreciate it a lot
Galaxo60 said:
I will like to add a couple more:
Cons XL2
- Super slow charge
- Random Bluetooth issues
- Slow fingerprint scanner
- Random mail problems
- Mediocre signal
Pro's U11+
- Really nice audio
- Super nice speakers
- A lot of accessories included
About the screen of the U11+, is true that is not bright as many other flagships, but for me is not a problem because I don't like to have a super lamp in front of my eyes; I usually stick with medium brightness always, even on TV and monitor. With the Pixel 2 XL I had the screen at 35% with adaptive brightness and with the U11+ I have it at 50%. I tested yesterday in direct sunlight and I didn't have any issue looking at the screen.
I made some other tests, and overall, the 100% brightness of the U11+ is like ~80% brightness of the Pixel 2 Xl; I think this shouldn't be an issue because the U11+ screen also has HDR10 support, so is more than enough for most people, with the exception if you like really bright displays.
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yes. for me too, i usually don't maxed out on super bright screen displays. i usually just set it to 30-50% unless i use it in direct sunlight as it usually strains my eyes when the screen is always too bright.
chamitobear said:
yes. for me too, i usually don't maxed out on super bright screen displays. i usually just set it to 30-50% unless i use it in direct sunlight as it usually strains my eyes when the screen is always too bright.
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I have been 3 days with the U11+ by now and overall I think is a lot better value for money, but also it depends on your needs and tastes, because the Pixel 2 XL was its own nice features (mostly useless, but still nice), like the songs listening feature, the AR stickers in the camera, the live wallpapers and other than maybe are appealing to you.
If the screen in the Pixel 2 Xl was as good as the one in the U11+, it would be an easier choice, but for that money and receiving sub-par quality screen, is kind of lame.
I put yesterday side by side the phones to compare the screen and I was amazed with U11+ screen. It has perfect calibration and smooth colors. The Pixel 2 XL, even with the blue tint, looked yellowish in white.
I'm quite happy with the phone overall, and I think is a really nice buy, but if your heart is with the Pixel, even with its flaws, go with the Pixel. The important is to be happy with any decision you make.
andreipaval said:
How did you manager to install the Google Dialer ?, but it doesn't work ? Do you have the simgle SIM version of U11+ ?
I have the Dual SIM version and I can't even install the G Dialer, it gives an error in the installation screen.
I think I read somewhere that the G Dialer is incompatible with all Dual SIM phones, because Google never had a dual SIM one.
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First, my dual sim u11+ is rooted so I flashed the Google framework.zip from another thread and the Google Dialer installed with no problem. The problem I have is with the dialer component; it will FC when I attempt to dial numbers. The in-call UI feature (appears after initiating a call) works just fine.
I'm not sure about the Google dialer not working with a dual SIM phone, I was able to install the Google dialer on the OnePlus 5T and it worked with no issue.
Sent from my Transparent Black U11+
I've had them both but kept the pixel 2 (the small one). My u11+ was on the October security patch until January 16, after which it was updated to the December patch and who knows for how many months it will stay at that version. I have the impression that HTC will soon forget about this phone so I decided to sell it.
Cinner said:
I've had them both but kept the pixel 2 (the small one). My u11+ was on the October security patch until January 16, after which it was updated to the December patch and who knows for how many months it will stay at that version. I have the impression that HTC will soon forget about this phone so I decided to sell it.
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I don't think so, and more over than Google and HTC are working really closely right now with the Pixel line and also sharing a lot of patents and other things. Maybe you won't have the monthly updates, but at least every 2-3 months and also HTC is known because it updates its phones at least 2 years.
Maybe I'm wrong, but only time will tell.
Galaxo60 said:
I don't think so, and more over than Google and HTC are working really closely right now with the Pixel line and also sharing a lot of patents and other things. Maybe you won't have the monthly updates, but at least every 2-3 months and also HTC is known because it updates its phones at least 2 years.
Maybe I'm wrong, but only time will tell.
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Indeed, time will tell. Don't get me wrong, the U11+ is a nice phone and a good value compared to a Pixel 2 XL. What bothered me most of all about the U11+ now I think about it, is how incredibly slippery the glass back is. To me the phone was an accident waiting to happen. It looks amazing, but I prefer a less slippery phone since I dislike using a case.
BTW from a performance perspective, after the January update I got the impression the U11+ was even smoother than before. I couldn't really tell a difference between it and my pixel 2, and I consider myself very sensitive to those differences.

Android One And google camera

Do you think you can get an official google camera app on this phone since its android one?
Megaromania said:
Do you think you can get an official google camera app on this phone since its android one?
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I guess nokia will customize the camera app with features like boothie and some other hardware specific stuff just like Xiaomi did with the Mi A1. Google camera port will be the best alternative to the stock camera app
No, it will have the Nokia one : https://goo.gl/8GPq3r
The Nokia Pro Camera mode has been around since the company's Windows Phone days and is primed to make a comeback.
Dhalsim43 said:
No, it will have the Nokia one : https://goo.gl/8GPq3r
The Nokia Pro Camera mode has been around since the company's Windows Phone days and is primed to make a comeback.
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Is it any good? i will be getting rid of my pixel 2 xl since every damn update there is something new that breaks , so i was wondering if at least we can get the HDR processing from the google camera on Nokia
Megaromania said:
Is it any good? i will be getting rid of my pixel 2 xl since every damn update there is something new that breaks , so i was wondering if at least we can get the HDR processing from the google camera on Nokia
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The Pixel 2 XL has the best camera after S9 and you'll not get that HDR processing in the Nokia 7 Plus, you can use the ported GCam mod for better quality but the Pixel 2 XL's visual core chip does the real magic. I don't know much about the Nokia Pro Camera app but I'm 101% sure that it won't be able to match the quality against GCam
venom928 said:
The Pixel 2 XL has the best camera after S9 and you'll not get that HDR processing in the Nokia 7 Plus, you can use the ported GCam mod for better quality but the Pixel 2 XL's visual core chip does the real magic. I don't know much about the Nokia Pro Camera app but I'm 101% sure that it won't be able to match the quality against GCam
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Umm I thought it was all pretty much the app? The visual core was just activated no? It would reduce the time to process the image
Megaromania said:
Umm I thought it was all pretty much the app? The visual core was just activated no? It would reduce the time to process the image
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The visual core is responsible for the better images. The software algorithms are necessary for processing but hardware is also necessary. So the visual core and HRD+ algorithms together make the pixel 2 xl "the best camera phone"
venom928 said:
The visual core is responsible for the better images. The software algorithms are necessary for processing but hardware is also necessary. So the visual core and HRD+ algorithms together make the pixel 2 xl "the best camera phone"
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Well this MWC was awful
Only phones that were nice were Nokia 7 plus and vivo apex
I am kinda waiting to see the the mi mix 2 and the p20 pro
So I am debating what to get
Megaromania said:
Well this MWC was awful
Only phones that were nice were Nokia 7 plus and vivo apex
I am kinda waiting to see the the mi mix 2 and the p20 pro
So I am debating what to get
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get yourself a S9 Plus.....but if you can wait for the Note 8, it will be a much better option
venom928 said:
get yourself a S9 Plus.....but if you can wait for the Note 8, it will be a much better option
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tbh i had a bad experience with samsung never again lol
huawei over samsung any day
but will see how the mi mix 2s and p20 pro play out
i dont even care if they have a notch i would rather have a notch than an ugly thick bezzle lol
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tbh i had a bad experience with samsung never again lol
huawei over samsung any day
but will see how the mi mix 2s and p20 pro play out
i dont even care if they have a notch i would rather have a notch than an ugly thick bezzle lol
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Note 9**** I was talking about.
If you are ok with the processor on Huawei devices then the mate 10 pro or any other huawei flagship will be the best choice
Hmd is a bit arrogant, arrogant enterprise won't succeed
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venom928 said:
The visual core is responsible for the better images. The software algorithms are necessary for processing but hardware is also necessary. So the visual core and HRD+ algorithms together make the pixel 2 xl "the best camera phone"
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Bro it's just used for processing. No other thing. Visual core is just responsible for faster processing and efficiency. Ok. Because hdr+ takes much cpu usage resulting in low battery life. So visual core is a chip made by Google to use minimal battery and faster image processing.
Vkboy said:
Bro it's just used for processing. No other thing. Visual core is just responsible for faster processing and efficiency. Ok. Because hdr+ takes much cpu usage resulting in low battery life. So visual core is a chip made by Google to use minimal battery and faster image processing.
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Image Processing.........thats the real magic behind Pixel 2's so impressive camera output and the visual core does that only
Some misinformation here, the visual core is only used for other apps like Snapchat and Instagram, on the pixel 2 the camera app doesn't use the visual core at all. The visual core was completely disabled when it was released.
That's why photos in third party apps often suck, because they're not using the image processing your phone manufacturer developed.
Perhaps they're moving forward to using it for everything in the next pixel.
I think the processor is more important - the pixel 2 has an 835 but this has a 660. Other phones that have ports use the same processor, maybe someone knows if that matters?
What would probably make a bigger difference is the lack of OIS on the Nokia 7 Plus. It's unfortunate since the Nokia 8 Scirocco has the same camera system but includes OIS.
speedyg0nz said:
What would probably make a bigger difference is the lack of OIS on the Nokia 7 Plus. It's unfortunate since the Nokia 8 Scirocco has the same camera system but includes OIS.
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It is a shame. I'm waiting for a good camera review of this phone. If it's good I can't see why people would pay twice the price for the 8.
speedyg0nz said:
What would probably make a bigger difference is the lack of OIS on the Nokia 7 Plus. It's unfortunate since the Nokia 8 Scirocco has the same camera system but includes OIS.
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I'm planning to get myself one but after reading your post, meh. i'll drop this phone out of my list.
It really is a shame for a high tier mid range came out with no OIS in the camera dept.
N.ORMs said:
I'm planning to get myself one but after reading your post, meh. i'll drop this phone out of my list.
It really is a shame for a high tier mid range came out with no OIS in the camera dept.
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you may get EIS manually too, but yeah OIS has its own advantages

Should I swap the P20 Pro for Pixel 2 XL?

Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
w2830 said:
Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
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I would suggest waiting for Pixel 3 which is due out in October/November as it would be pointless buying it now.
You have described that you require Bluetooth 5.0 (do you have any devices that specifically require it). Bluetooth 4.2 can still be pretty decent as it has low power consumption
P20 Pro does come with gorilla glass
mulkman said:
I would suggest waiting for Pixel 3 which is due out in October/November as it would be pointless buying it now.
You have described that you require Bluetooth 5.0 (do you have any devices that specifically require it). Bluetooth 4.2 can still be pretty decent as it has low power consumption
P20 Pro does come with gorilla glass
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I don't really need the added benefit of the Bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like the fact that they have cheaped out on this comparing samsung has started using 5.0 since s8 and lots of others. It doesn't offer any confidence in this phone when knowing this. Waiting for Pixel 3 is probably is a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
The phone costs less though so you gotta expect some compromises.
Hell no, from my experience the XL2 runs fast BUT very unstable. Apps especially Google Map can quit while you're driving, or whole system can reboot anytime.
My answer is no, if you want to go down pixel line wait until 3 comes out.
I've owned the nexus range and the pixel xl and was going to get a pixel 2 xl, but they are overpriced for what they are (just like apple) and they are full of bugs just like the XL
Pixel line of phones have long lost there edge compared to the Nexus line.
One plus in my opinion make the best "stock" android phones. Anyway back onto topic.
Gorilla glass Vs the tempered glass on the p20 Pro. Both scartch at a level 6 on the Moe's scale of hardness. So I wouldn't be to concerned
Bluetooth 4.2 Vs 5 can't really see much of a argument in a real life setting to why anyone would need 5 compared to 4.2.
If you can't get a one plus 6 and you have to make the choice like now then it feels your online option is the pixel.
There is no way I'd swap my phone for the px2
Or the XL.
The 3 ? Maybe but I'd have to see it
w2830 said:
Hi guys,
I've had the phone for a couple of days. What bothers me are the fact that as a latest fragship, it cheaps out on bluetooth chip(4.2). Other devices like pixel 2 from last year already start using 5.0. Not that I really need the bluetooth 5.0. I just don't like being cheaped out to. Also no gorilla glass? I'd admit these are very minor "issues". Maybe I'm a bit of a brand whore. I just can't seem to enjoy looking at the ugly logo of the brand inside and out. The phone is from a contract with the carrier and therefore my choices are limited to what they have at this time. LG 7, V30, Pixel 2 XL to name a few. I'm not interested in anything with storage space less than 128GB (I don't like using sd cards, sorry but I think they are inferior), which brings me down pretty much to Pixel 2 XL. Now I notice there are people here who are coming from Pixel 2 to P20 Pro. I'd really like to hear their thought on comparing these two phones from all aspects before making the decision. I'm also open to other suggestions. Would really appreciate the input!
Neil
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am personally let go my pixel 2 xl after having p20 pro.
camera is more versatile. smoothness is comparable. screen color is better for doing graphic works (at least IMO), and this one might surprise you, my apps crash less on this phone than on my pixel 2 xl, and 6GB of ram wont hurt either (disable zRAM to feel the true smoothness of this phone)
now am using p20 pro as main driver and redmi note 5 Ai as secondary phone. saving 400++ bucks by doing so. cant be happier
If I could go back in time, I would keep my Pixel 2 XL. That is not without issues though.
On the Pixel 2 XL, Touchscreen is a bit iffy. Battery life is worse (7 hours SOT over a day as opposed to 9 on the Huawei). Display is a little dark, not enough brightness in sunshine. But, if I could go back, I would keep it.
The Pixel is smoother and faster in apps, scrolling is much quicker, graphics power on the Pixel 2 XL is better, the P20 is quite stuttery and laggy.
But I would stick with the P20 for now.
Pros of switching to Pixel 2 XL:
1. Faster, fluid and cleaner software stock android experience. I used Pixel 2 as a work phone and love the Google experience. People buy Pixel for software and camera
2. Faster update to Android P
3. Snapdragon 835 is faster than Kirin 970, especially GPU
4. Google's camera is much simpler than P20 Pro's
5. Pixel 2 has better Stereo speakers
6. Pixel 2 has Bluetooth 5
Reasons for sticking with P20 Pro:
1. P20 Pro has a much better screen to body ratio, more content on a smaller screen
2. P20 Pro's camera hardware is future proof; amazing night mode, the best in market; P20 Pro is basically a camera phone
3. P20 Pro has a bigger battery and well optimized, resulting in much better battery life
4. P20 Pro's face unlock is more convenient than Pixel 2's rear mounted fingerprint reader
5. Pixel 2 XL's screen quality is inferior to P20 Pro's, which has fantastic AMOLED display
6. P20 Pro is future proof because of 6 GB ram, although Pixel 2 XL works equally well with 4GB ram.
Long story short, P20 Pro has a better hardware, but poor software experience in my opinion. Pixel 2 XL's Google experience is a class of its own. Never got such a fluid experience on any phone ever (Not even on One plus series).
I hope it helps
gautam.malik said:
Pros of switching to Pixel 2 XL:
1. Faster, fluid and cleaner software stock android experience. I used Pixel 2 as a work phone and love the Google experience. People buy Pixel for software and camera
2. Faster update to Android P
3. Snapdragon 835 is faster than Kirin 970, especially GPU
4. Google's camera is much simpler than P20 Pro's
5. Pixel 2 has better Stereo speakers
6. Pixel 2 has Bluetooth 5
Reasons for sticking with P20 Pro:
1. P20 Pro has a much better screen to body ratio, more content on a smaller screen
2. P20 Pro's camera hardware is future proof; amazing night mode, the best in market; P20 Pro is basically a camera phone
3. P20 Pro has a bigger battery and well optimized, resulting in much better battery life
4. P20 Pro's face unlock is more convenient than Pixel 2's rear mounted fingerprint reader
5. Pixel 2 XL's screen quality is inferior to P20 Pro's, which has fantastic AMOLED display
6. P20 Pro is future proof because of 6 GB ram, although Pixel 2 XL works equally well with 4GB ram.
Long story short, P20 Pro has a better hardware, but poor software experience in my opinion. Pixel 2 XL's Google experience is a class of its own. Never got such a fluid experience on any phone ever (Not even on One plus series).
I hope it helps
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But software can always be improved, and / or we have Roms.
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But software can always be improved, and / or we have Roms.
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Development hasn't been looking good so far, but i do hope we get some more going eventually. Also, yeah i hope stop EMUI gets improved as well.
If P2XL didn't have the issues with screen I would have probably got it as liked the Pixel XL, but I had the initial issues with the halo when taking photos, I couldn't automatically connect to Bluetooth devices and had to manually switch over. It never 6with wifi calling when switched network as that feature was locked to EE and it same on the Pixel 2.
I have a Huawei Watch and switching over phones lost my data as couldn't be backed up on Pixel phones and Google Fit is more than useless with not keeping GPS data and not showing correctly across devices. Apple, Fitbit, Sony and even Garmin apps better.
Even Huawei Health provides better data than Google Fit just shame it can only be backed up and restored on Huawei devices otherwise u lose all data.
I'm still debating which device to get next and may depend on Watch compatibility.
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Thread from the dead: which phone should I keep?
So I found myself having my P2XL 128gb replaced by Google due to screen burn and a new (refurb) one arrives tomorrow.
In the meantime I had been rolling with a Huawei P20 Pro and it's not bad... Camera IS LOVELY and battery life amazing but I run Rootless Pixel Launcher as I can't stand whatever Huawei call their interface.
So, I can get £300 for my pixel 2 on popular recycling sites or £353 for the Huawei. My buy out on contract is £267.50 so either way I'm quids in.
Now, which one do I keep? It's worth noting my work phone is rolling a P3XL and, to some degree, I need to be in Android Beta Programmes (Q next?) as I'm a dev PM. The P3XL answers this need.
Heart says keep the pixel and flog the Huawei. Head says Huawei mobile the newer model (though not newer handset as, if you remember, just getting a replacement from The Big G).
The pixel FEELS better to me but, as this is my social phone, I'm more concerned with the camera than anything else. Does the P20 Pro triple camera make it worth getting rid of the P2XL? The snail pace of updates to the P20 annoys but thata just me wanting latest and greatest all the time.
Oh, decisions decisions. Either way ONE phone must go tomorrow in the post as I've locked in the prices for both with recyclers.
What would *you* do? Snapper or Pixel?
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So I found myself having my P2XL 128gb replaced by Google due to screen burn and a new (refurb) one arrives tomorrow.
In the meantime I had been rolling with a Huawei P20 Pro and it's not bad... Camera IS LOVELY and battery life amazing but I run Rootless Pixel Launcher as I can't stand whatever Huawei call their interface.
So, I can get £300 for my pixel 2 on popular recycling sites or £353 for the Huawei. My buy out on contract is £267.50 so either way I'm quids in.
Now, which one do I keep? It's worth noting my work phone is rolling a P3XL and, to some degree, I need to be in Android Beta Programmes (Q next?) as I'm a dev PM. The P3XL answers this need.
Heart says keep the pixel and flog the Huawei. Head says Huawei mobile the newer model (though not newer handset as, if you remember, just getting a replacement from The Big G).
The pixel FEELS better to me but, as this is my social phone, I'm more concerned with the camera than anything else. Does the P20 Pro triple camera make it worth getting rid of the P2XL? The snail pace of updates to the P20 annoys but thata just me wanting latest and greatest all the time.
Oh, decisions decisions. Either way ONE phone must go tomorrow in the post as I've locked in the prices for both with recyclers.
What would *you* do? Snapper or Pixel?
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Do not get rid of the P2xl because of the triple camera on the P20 Pro. The pixel is still the better all round camera regardless, and with its own new night sight mode, it just got even better.
Keep the pixel
Is it though, Patchy? I took an awesome shot on holiday where you could see Saturn and the P20 picked it out.
Ugh. I'm so conflicted!
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Is it though, Patchy? I took an awesome shot on holiday where you could see Saturn and the P20 picked it out.
Ugh. I'm so conflicted!
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I have both phones. It comes to preference, but yeah I find the Pixel always takes nicer photos. Way more consistent. Your call man.
i traded my pixel 2 xl because i was bored with stock android and the ram management was crap . portrait mode was better on pixel 2 xl. But i love the p20 pro for when zooming in pics the pics are still amazingly sharp

Changing the pixel 2

Hi everybody, I want to get your thoughts. I want to change my pixel 2 for bigger screen and near camera performance. I would really like to wait for pixel 3 but it is not sold in my country. Which phone would you advice? Oneplus6? Zenfone 5z? LG Q7? I made lots of search on my favorite Zenfone 5z which is smaller than op6 and lgq7 , what I found is; everything is good except camera which have potentcial with future updates and lack of water resistance.
Any advice?
I am old Samsung user s7, s7edge, s8 and won't but Samsung again. That is why it is not on the list.
Anything even close to the Pixel is Oneplus. Get a 5T or a 6. If the camera is really important to you, then 6 is your choice. 5T's camera is underwhelming at best.
I'm not into new smartphones anymore because I settled into my Pixel 2 and will have it until it's not supported anymore. But everything I know is that OnePlus 6 has a good camera, probably they will upgrade it with the 6T so I would wait for that to be announced and tested. I wouldn't consider a Zenphone because if the quality is bad at release, It would hardly get better in future updates. Also you can use various Google Cam mods with OnePlus phones as I did with my 3 which broke after It flew off the bed when
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Anything even close to the Pixel is Oneplus. Get a 5T or a 6. If the camera is really important to you, then 6 is your choice. 5T's camera is underwhelming at best.
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The only problem with op6 is that 6 months of renewal having an old phone in 6 months is very bad fealing even if I wait for op6t
harisyks said:
Anything even close to the Pixel is Oneplus. Get a 5T or a 6. If the camera is really important to you, then 6 is your choice. 5T's camera is underwhelming at best.
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No OnePlus phone is even remotely close to the pixel 2 camera.
OnePlus phone offer better performance, but their camera tech isn't flagship level
using a Huawei P20 as a successor to my P20. great phone and all but I miss the small form factor and the fluidity of stock Android.
expand your candidates, add pixel 2 XL
Keep the Pixel 2, try 424 dp, and large font size.

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