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Better compatibility with Google Camera app?

The OnePlus 5T proved to be quite a challenge when it came to the ported Gcam app, while other Devices just worked. Apparently this was due to some weird Software/Firmware handling by OnePlus.
Has there been any info yet, on how OnePlus is handling their Camera on the 6? The Hardware has changed, but are they still using Camera API1 like on the 5T?
Btw...when will we start Seeing Reviews? Test Samples should be out there, but currently they still have some kind of NDA or Press embargo...

camera2 API is enabled by default

Good news. If you already have the OnePlus 6, can you test one of the recent Gcam Ports? Thanks!

CommanderROR said:
Good news. If you already have the OnePlus 6, can you test one of the recent Gcam Ports? Thanks!
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im curious about this embargo
so many people have the op6 and no one is talking about it in depth
im really curious about VOLTE and camera performance
if it doesnt have VOLTE then thats a no go for me
and as for camera, i have a p20 pro, i love the camera (i hate the selfie cam its so soft and beautified)
id hop on the op6 if the camera can come somewhat close to the p20 pro (i.e dxomark rating in the 3x digits) or atleast top 5 phones.
i had a 5T before my P20 pro and i really miss the speed and fluidity of it, and the ram management on the p20 pro is noticably sub-par
my op5t was incredibly quick, and its noticable that the p20 pro is somewhat slower.

The embargo seems to be gone now. The first Reviews are out, but still quite superficial. It will probably take a bit for the more thorough tests...

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@ detritu5
Coul you check camera2probe to check which hardware level it supports?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.weis.camera2probe

The 5T reports Level 3, but all three options below are then crossed out. What does the 6 say?

virtyx said:
im curious about this embargo
so many people have the op6 and no one is talking about it in depth
im really curious about VOLTE and camera performance
if it doesnt have VOLTE then thats a no go for me
and as for camera, i have a p20 pro, i love the camera (i hate the selfie cam its so soft and beautified)
id hop on the op6 if the camera can come somewhat close to the p20 pro (i.e dxomark rating in the 3x digits) or atleast top 5 phones.
i had a 5T before my P20 pro and i really miss the speed and fluidity of it, and the ram management on the p20 pro is noticably sub-par
my op5t was incredibly quick, and its noticable that the p20 pro is somewhat slower.
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It has dual sim volte support

Would like to know if it works too.
I am planning on getting the s8+, but if oneplus 6 got gcam, I might consider it

User latomeri on Reddit ran the camera probe and got "Full" for back and "Limited" for front.
I'm not allowed to post the URL here because I'm a new XDA user, you can see it at
reddit.com / r / oneplus / comments / 8kwiu7 / questions_for_those_who_already_have_the_device

A missing camera2api implementation was never the issue.
Also, it needs to be full because it has to support raw.
The issue is the wrong raw stream in hal3 which gets provided by the driver to the Google Camera.
Before anyone asks, I canceled my order so I don't have the OP6.
Wont buy until gcam support is confirmed.

RocketGeeezer said:
@ detritu5
Coul you check camera2probe to check which hardware level it supports?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.weis.camera2probe
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Yes.
Full

Since the 5T reports no support and the 6 says Full, there does seem to be a difference. Let's see how it goes...

RocketGeeezer said:
@ detritu5
Coul you check camera2probe to check which hardware level it supports?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.weis.camera2probe
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Here have a look.

CommanderROR said:
The 5T reports Level 3, but all three options below are then crossed out. What does the 6 say?
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Full. If I'm not mistaken, that's actually worse than level 3

Interesting.
My OnePlus 6 arrived today, and the Gcam V7 beta 9 seems to work, but I don't think HDR+ is actually functional...at least it doesn't look like it...
Other Gcam version just fc on launch, but I haven't tried them all yet obviously...
From what I just read, Level3 is actually needed for RAW capture, so that might act be the problem with Gcam HDR+?

Any updates ?? somebody are working on a port?

From reading around, it appears that the Snapdragon 845 just isn't compatible with Gcam. Once we get a new Pixel with SB845 that will change. Whether someone can crewte a workaround before then is uncertain...

We just need to wait for GCam to be ported to SD845.

Changing the pixel 2

Hi everybody, I want to get your thoughts. I want to change my pixel 2 for bigger screen and near camera performance. I would really like to wait for pixel 3 but it is not sold in my country. Which phone would you advice? Oneplus6? Zenfone 5z? LG Q7? I made lots of search on my favorite Zenfone 5z which is smaller than op6 and lgq7 , what I found is; everything is good except camera which have potentcial with future updates and lack of water resistance.
Any advice?
I am old Samsung user s7, s7edge, s8 and won't but Samsung again. That is why it is not on the list.

Anything even close to the Pixel is Oneplus. Get a 5T or a 6. If the camera is really important to you, then 6 is your choice. 5T's camera is underwhelming at best.

I'm not into new smartphones anymore because I settled into my Pixel 2 and will have it until it's not supported anymore. But everything I know is that OnePlus 6 has a good camera, probably they will upgrade it with the 6T so I would wait for that to be announced and tested. I wouldn't consider a Zenphone because if the quality is bad at release, It would hardly get better in future updates. Also you can use various Google Cam mods with OnePlus phones as I did with my 3 which broke after It flew off the bed when

harisyks said:
Anything even close to the Pixel is Oneplus. Get a 5T or a 6. If the camera is really important to you, then 6 is your choice. 5T's camera is underwhelming at best.
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The only problem with op6 is that 6 months of renewal having an old phone in 6 months is very bad fealing even if I wait for op6t

harisyks said:
Anything even close to the Pixel is Oneplus. Get a 5T or a 6. If the camera is really important to you, then 6 is your choice. 5T's camera is underwhelming at best.
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No OnePlus phone is even remotely close to the pixel 2 camera.
OnePlus phone offer better performance, but their camera tech isn't flagship level

using a Huawei P20 as a successor to my P20. great phone and all but I miss the small form factor and the fluidity of stock Android.

expand your candidates, add pixel 2 XL

Keep the Pixel 2, try 424 dp, and large font size.

thoughts on how this phone will compare to pixel4xl?

I realize this is kind of a ridiculous threat because that phone is at least 4 months away, although I'm going to be in the market for a new phone, and as far as I can deal there are only two options for unlocked phones on Verizon.
seems like this phone has been getting fantastic reviews. Harvard do you think that the OnePlus will be able to match the hardware? Google seems to have always skimped on the hardware. I'm hoping for at least 8 gig of RAM on the Pixel 4. That being said do you think it is worth waiting for that phone or should I just pull the trigger? Currently have 2 XL and it is running great, I'm just getting bored with it

I assume the pixel 4 will be like the pixel 2 but with hardware upgrades. If you're bored with the pixel OnePlus is a good alternative.
The camera will be a downgrade if you do get the 7pro

I still think there will be a notch or a cut out but it will be a much improved over the 3 XL design.
At least 6gb of ram and better battery life is a must .
The screen on the 3 XL was very good and I'm sure the 4 will be the same but I can't see Google going for the 90hz.
Considering the pixel 3 is still the best cam with an older sensor. I could only imagine what Google could do with updated lens. Maybe wide or telephoto too.
Will be released with Q as well which is looking promising

Thanks for the messages. I assume processor will still be the same? I really don't care about the camera as much. And mainly concerned about speed and performance

Have you seen the proposed apple and Google handset forms. Expect a move back to big square camera mods, and big square panels. Yikes.

Cowbell_Guy said:
Thanks for the messages. I assume processor will still be the same? I really don't care about the camera as much. And mainly concerned about speed and performance
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Well from what I heard about the pixel3's, OnePlus might have the pixel4xl beat in speed and performance. The OP7P has UFS3.0 and we have a RAM boost, not to mention other variables that contribute to a faster device like almost stock android with OOS. But that is comparing it to an older model... I guess for a final answer we will have to wait until the pixel4xl is released. I'll say the price gap might be significant enough to lean towards the OP7P though.

Pixel 4 needs major changes. Pixel 3 was a step back from pixel 2xl for me personally. 4gb ram with poor ram management made for a frustrating device. Pixel 2xl was one of my favorite phones ever. OP7 pro is very smooth like I was accustomed to with pixel 2xl. Yes camera is not as good but with some patience you can still get quality shots.

It's hard to tell, I would say the 7 pro will be faster but pixel will have better cameras.
It's easy for Google this year though, make a phone with the specs of the 7 pro, no notch and put their camera on it. Even with a 60hz screen I would be tempted. If they do something different I'm not sure what they are up to.

With a once a year concervative release, the Pixel line had always been behind. Except if you want a camera phone...

Google didn't have a good smartphone since Motorola Nexus 6. Before that, Google's (Samsung) Galaxy was a great phone. Except Google pays Samsung or OnePlus to make a new Google phone, I wouldn't bother. They are 2 years behind OnePlus and they are focused on ai and ar, not how to make good smartphone. Also, Google charges too much for crappy phones.
Next great phone will probably be new Samsung Note. The only thing missing on 7 pro would be lack of DeX (hopefully we get that with new iteration of Android OS), and 5x+ "periscope" optical zoom.

Pixel phones have never had particularly exciting hardware, especially if you consider how late in the year it launches. Once again, it seems like it will have a slightly dated look with semi-large bezels for a flagship. Their only redeeming quality is the software and the camera (which we know is also mostly about awesome software).

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Pixel phones have never had particularly exciting hardware, especially if you consider how late in the year it launches. Once again, it seems like it will have a slightly dated look with semi-large bezels for a flagship. Their only redeeming quality is the software and the camera (which we know is also mostly about awesome software).
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Since the leaked specs of that just came out... What do you guys think? Would anyone consider that phone over this? I'm looking to get a new phone in next few months just trying to figure out options for a Verizon unlocked bootloader

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Since the leaked specs of that just came out... What do you guys think? Would anyone consider that phone over this? I'm looking to get a new phone in next few months just trying to figure out options for a Verizon unlocked bootloader
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Pixel might not beat OnePlus 7 Pro in terms of smoothness and speed.. but camera is a different story.. I have 7 Pro and planning to buy Pixel 4.. if the performance degradation is really noticeable, I will return Pixel 4 and keep OnePlus 7 Pro

I think Pixel 4/4XL will be far superior to OnePlus 7 Pro in the camera department only at a guess.

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I think Pixel 4/4XL will be far superior to OnePlus 7 Pro in the camera department only at a guess.
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agreed, I think Camera is the one area that pixel is always king.
although that aside, I was disappointed to see that it is only rumored to have six gig of RAM. I can't really see any of the other specs being better than what we currently have. Honestly I'm debating between the 7 plus, before XL, or the next one plus. All I really care about is performance and speed. I'm not a huge photographer

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agreed, I think Camera is the one area that pixel is always king.
although that aside, I was disappointed to see that it is only rumored to have six gig of RAM. I can't really see any of the other specs being better than what we currently have. Honestly I'm debating between the 7 plus, before XL, or the next one plus. All I really care about is performance and speed. I'm not a huge photographer
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If thats the case then OnePlus 7 Pro is definitely the phone to get.

Don't forget that by when Pixel 4 releases, Oneplus will have a successor to this phone a month later

Big Nexus / Pixel fan here, having owned almost all Nexus phones, and the Pixel 2 XL and now the 3 XL, and only owned the original OnePlus One, but I have to say, that beast had a long life, with ROM's it performed very well for several years, a good 3+ years the OPO was still fast and smooth. But the stock Android experience doesn't seems as cool as it used to, seems a little laggy sometimes, or not as warp speed smooth.
Whereas Oxygen OS is super fast, extreme smooth, and has extra tweaks and more customization baked in. OnePlus phones is sort of like a Pixel that's running a custom ROM and customer tweaked kernel.
So this is how I see it playing out;
- Pixel 4 XL wins in the camera department, and of course first for updates direct from Google. And the little things like wireless charging and official IP68 rating.
- OnePlus 7 Pro wins other areas; smoother faster OS experience. Maybe better display screen. Faster charging. More customization baked in.

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Don't forget that by when Pixel 4 releases, Oneplus will have a successor to this phone a month later
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Good point. At the very least, night as well wait until the 4 comes out. Will force down prices of the 7, and the 8 will hopefully be released soon after
Which starts another argument- why would someone ever buy a phone with an old outdated processor when a new one was coming out a few months later

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Good point. At the very least, night as well wait until the 4 comes out. Will force down prices of the 7, and the 8 will hopefully be released soon after
Which starts another argument- why would someone ever buy a phone with an old outdated processor when a new one was coming out a few months later
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You buy a phone when you need it, simple as that. Something new is always around the corner, but if you wait for that you will be waiting forever.

im i not a pro ? (purchase decision)

so ive been looking to move from my Pixel 3 to a oneplus and.
1- Size:im not into big phones, ive had big ones before and i dont want to go back:
the OP7 is a bit smaller, isnt any noticable on use, or is it just shorte ?
2-Notch:id rather had a teardrop than frankenstein (pop-up)
3- Screen style: straight bezzel is better than curved for me
many complain and i dont think im going to be into the curve
4-Warp charge: would be nice, but not having it aint the end of the world for me
5-Battery: the Non-Pro probably lasts a little more on its 3700 than the 4000 on the pro version taking into consideration the screen ?
6-Resolution and refresh rate: i know ill love it if i see it, but well i can let myself not get used to it, aint that a solution ?
7- MOST IMPORTANT is the camera.... i love my pixel 3 camera and im sad im "downgrading?" but is the OP7 even more of the downgrade from the OP7 pro when it comes to the main shooter if we forget about the wide angle ?
thanks a lot for your time, please weight in
main reason im leaving pixel is that it aint really supported in Norway, so i have problems sometime, no support for 4g calling and wifi-calling which i kinda a killer for me, because im a professional translator and need the call quality
the price difference of 200 euros between OP7 6gb 128gb and OP7P 8gb 256 is not much for me at all, but i just dont want a bigger more expensive phone that i dont really long for currently

If you can buy the op7 pro then go for it.Battery life is better on 7 mainly because of small screen and lower refresh rate and the main shooter performs the same as 7 pro.I personally use op7 and I don't have any complaints

In your case I would by the OP7 (non pro)
I was in the same situation before I bought the standard op7. I also doesn't like the bigger size and the elevator camera. And the curved display is also a con for me.
Camera quality is almost the same if you take normal pictures and nothing special.

Probably the OP7 would work out well...

Camera not great on OnePlus 7 or any other non 7 pro Oneplus,
Maybe go for a Mi 9T or K20 pro or indeed mi 9 which has teardrop notch but good camera,
I would personally get a 7 pro if I didn't already have a 6t.coincidently, I'm thinking of swapping my 6T for a Mi 9T for the greater number of features,better cameras and battery,though am hesitant because I do enjoy quick updates on Oneplus but am realizing a lot of updates are useless updates to weather and other Oneplus apps that you don't need

manus31 said:
Camera not great on OnePlus 7 or any other non 7 pro Oneplus,
Maybe go for a Mi 9T or K20 pro or indeed mi 9 which has teardrop notch but good camera,
I would personally get a 7 pro if I didn't already have a 6t.coincidently, I'm thinking of swapping my 6T for a Mi 9T for the greater number of features,better cameras and battery,though am hesitant because I do enjoy quick updates on Oneplus but am realizing a lot of updates are useless updates to weather and other Oneplus apps that you don't need
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So you didn't have a OP7 and say camera is bad? Makes sense.
I switched from Mi9 to OP7 and I tell you Camera isn't better if you take standard pictures and nothing special. It's almost the same because the main sensor is the same. (48MP Sony IMX 586)

Kollachi said:
So you didn't have a OP7 and say camera is bad? Makes sense.
I switched from Mi9 to OP7 and I tell you Camera isn't better if you take standard pictures and nothing special. It's almost the same because the main sensor is the same. (48MP Sony IMX 586)
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Don't need to have it,read plenty and have the 6T,Ido believe the mi9 is better going on what majority of comparisons I've seen

manus31 said:
Don't need to have it,read plenty and have the 6T,Ido believe the mi9 is better going on what majority of comparisons I've seen
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Believe it or not. OP7 Camera setup isn't the best, that's right but "better" always depends on point of view. It's not right if you say "OP7 is not great". That's absolutely bullsh.. You can take great Pictures even with one less lense.
Btw... I would never trust paid YouTuber...

Kollachi said:
Believe it or not. OP7 Camera setup isn't the best, that's right but "better" always depends on point of view. It's not right if you say "OP7 is not great". That's absolutely bullsh.. You can take great Pictures even with one less lense.
Btw... I would never trust paid YouTuber...
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Sorry for commenting on your new phone dude, your obviously very protective of that bad boy.But having had OnePlus 3,6,and 6T,I still believe OnePlus software is not good enough in the camera department. My 6T sucks without google cam. Xaoimi does it better IMOPO

manus31 said:
Sorry for commenting on your new phone dude, your obviously very protective of that bad boy.But having had OnePlus 3,6,and 6T,I still believe OnePlus software is not good enough in the camera department. My 6T sucks without google cam. Xaoimi does it better IMOPO
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Hi guys! Bought OnePlus 7 last week and have been playing with it for the past few days.
I have had my usage of flagships and budget phone, as my previous smartphones have been Galaxy S1, HTC One X, Motorola Droid RAZR, Xiaomi Mi3, Nexus 6P, Nokia 7 Plus and now OnePlus 7.
I was also very skeptical about the mixed reviews that this phone received for its camera and picture quality but after buying and using it for a brief time period, I am sure of one thing that it certainly is not "GOD level" aka Pixel Camera but the phone is pretty good for the price that is being offered.

Advice from p40 pro owners

Hey whats up , just looking for advice /opinions from p40 pro owners
Ok got me the oneplus 8 pro on (H3G) UK and well that was a big let down in the camera department and battery life not to mention display issues , anyway within my 14 days I can exchange to pretty much any phone they have so camera is pretty important so I toy'd with idea of p40 pro but without Google was a bit off putting so I decided on the S20 Ultra and well let's say I'm not blown away with the camera on that,
has just been updated and is kinda beta especially auto focus was main issue at the time , so my question is should I while I'm still in my 14 days retun S20 ultra for the P40 pro as s20 ultra 100x zoom is well waste of time I know anything pretty much past 30x is a blurr but over all watching YouTube video although samsung looks more natural colour's the detail of the p40 pro can be slightly better its very subjective in most comparisons I can get over the fact there's no Google but should I switch or stick with the ultra and hope samsung can improve further anybody actually switched from s20 ultra to p40 pro and regret it or are you much happier , I know on paper s20 ultra spec wise display ok 120hz at 1080p isn't ideal but display is beautiful and 12gb ram and stereo speakers and tech better front facing cam ,again subjective . I just don't know want to do , thanks for reading hope you can help decide , Lol stay safe [emoji4]
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Personally, I'd prefer the P40P and that's not just because it's cheaper and better value depending on how your needs. It's also important to summarize and weigh up the pros and cons for both devices. If you're in the UK with a Exynos CPU, then I'd personally avoid the S20 Ultra altogether due to the hot attention it's been getting for its inferior battery life and CPU performance.
Screen - Samsung (120hz, brighter and higher quality display, no huge pill-shaped punch hole notch)
Battery Life and Charging - Tie IMO (P40P's 5G chipset is more efficient since it has a built-in 5G modem and Huawei tend to be more memory aggressive with closing down background apps). Exynos S20 Ultra isn't as good as the Snapdragon model as it's less power efficient so its chipsets just aren't created equally. Some proof shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63T5lrDivn8
Camera - P40P (doesn't have the auto focus issues, has superior night mode, slightly better zoom, front cameras are one of the best and even though the wide angle has a smaller field of view, it's a far bigger sensor which lets lets you capture better detailed shots)
Software - Samsung (as Huawei are banned from Google Play Services but you can still sideload most of the apps you need)
Overall aesthetics and design - P40P (mainly down to personal preference but the S20 Ultra is too big and chunky in my opinion and the sleek Frost Silver back, along with the smaller and tidier rear camera bump makes it a winner for me in the attractiveness department)

kyero985 said:
Personally, I'd prefer the P40P and that's not just because it's cheaper and better value depending on how your needs. It's also important to summarize and weigh up the pros and cons for both devices. If you're in the UK with a Exynos CPU, then I'd personally avoid the S20 Ultra altogether due to the hot attention it's been getting for its inferior battery life and CPU performance.
Screen - Samsung (120hz, brighter and higher quality display, no huge pill-shaped punch hole notch)
Battery Life and Charging - Tie IMO (P40P's 5G chipset is more efficient since it has a built-in 5G modem and Huawei tend to be more memory aggressive with closing down background apps). Exynos S20 Ultra isn't as good as the Snapdragon model as it's less power efficient so its chipsets just aren't created equally. Some proof shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63T5lrDivn8
Camera - P40P (doesn't have the auto focus issues, has superior night mode, slightly better zoom, front cameras are one of the best and even though the wide angle has a smaller field of view, it's a far bigger sensor which lets lets you capture better detailed shots)
Software - Samsung (as Huawei are banned from Google Play Services but you can still sideload most of the apps you need)
Overall aesthetics and design - P40P (mainly down to personal preference but the S20 Ultra is too big and chunky in my opinion and the sleek Frost Silver back, along with the smaller and tidier rear camera bump makes it a winner for me in the attractiveness department)
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Yes it is a dilemma but thats pretty much my conclusion as well on them both if only three had the oppo x2 find pro [emoji848]
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Yes it is a dilemma but thats pretty much my conclusion as well on them both if only three had the oppo x2 find pro [emoji848]
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The OPPO Find X2 Pro is very similar to the OnePlus 8 Pro though. They have near identical camera specifications (same main sensor), battery size and screen.
I see it as an overpriced version of a OP8P and with inferior software updates since OnePlus are better at releasing new firmware regularly than both Oppo and Samsung. I wouldn't consider it.

kyero985 said:
The OPPO Find X2 Pro is very similar to the OnePlus 8 Pro though. They have near identical camera specifications (same main sensor), battery size and screen.
I see it as an overpriced version of a OP8P and with inferior software updates since OnePlus are better at releasing new firmware regularly than both Oppo and Samsung. I wouldn't consider it.
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Oh I best un cancel my canceld p40 pro exchange then lol [emoji38]
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Oh I best un cancel my canceld p40 pro exchange then lol [emoji38]
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If you're purely after a flexible and strong camera performance across all lens and don't mind losing Google Play Services, the P40 Pro is almost impossible to beat in my opinion. The latest .131 firmware update that just came through about a week ago further improves its shooting performance and it can now take macro shots to an extent (I've posted a few other photos in another thread).
The S20 Ultra with its Exynos chipset is just not worth it. Every user has complained of auto focus issues, poor battery life versus its Snapdragon variant and the price tag has set a lot of expectations for perfection which Samsung couldn't deliver (there's a reason why the S20 series sold 50% less than the S10 series and petitions were started demanding Samsung to answer why they separated these two chipsets across various regions) - I'm not against Samsung but this is a sign that there's problems with this phone. The autofocus issues and its inability to take close-up shots are supposedly being fixed in the Note 20+ though.
The OnePlus 8 Pro on the other hand is the best all-rounder I'd say and I'd choose it over the S20 Ultra any day because the screen is just as good as the S20U, has Snapdragon 865 and not the Exynos and is regularly updated with new firmware (a friend of mine coming from the P30 Pro said it was a nice upgrade). It takes great videos too and is amazing value.

kyero985 said:
If you're purely after a flexible and strong camera performance across all lens and don't mind losing Google Play Services, the P40 Pro is almost impossible to beat in my opinion. The latest .131 firmware update that just came through about a week ago further improves its shooting performance and it can now take macro shots to an extent (I've posted a few other photos in another thread).
The S20 Ultra with its Exynos chipset is just not worth it. Every user has complained of auto focus issues, poor battery life versus its Snapdragon variant and the price tag has set a lot of expectations for perfection which Samsung couldn't deliver (there's a reason why the S20 series sold 50% less than the S10 series and petitions were started demanding Samsung to answer why they separated these two chipsets across various regions) - I'm not against Samsung but this is a sign that there's problems with this phone. The autofocus issues and its inability to take close-up shots are supposedly being fixed in the Note 20+ though.
The OnePlus 8 Pro on the other hand is the best all-rounder I'd say and I'd choose it over the S20 Ultra any day because the screen is just as good as the S20U, has Snapdragon 865 and not the Exynos and is regularly updated with new firmware (a friend of mine coming from the P30 Pro said it was a nice upgrade). It takes great videos too and is amazing value.
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I've had the 8 pro and wasn't at all impressed tbh camrea wasn't good and battery life and screen issues with greys and black looked wrong and washed out are stick with P40 pro I think it has best camera option that I'm after and battery life and optimization is Stella on Huawei's I can always install my bank app on tablet so not a deal braker tbh to hell with trump hopefully once he's out the ban will be lifted ,
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I've had the 8 pro and wasn't at all impressed tbh camrea wasn't good and battery life and screen issues with greys and black looked wrong and washed out are stick with P40 pro I think it has best camera option that I'm after and battery life and optimization is Stella on Huawei's I can always install my bank app on tablet so not a deal braker tbh to hell with trump hopefully once he's out the ban will be lifted ,
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OP8P's camera is a solid performer, but it's far from a flagship champion in the photography department in my opinion since the P40P is superior in both hardware and software.
Another reason why The P40P is also great in the battery life department is because there aren't any Google Play Services and other Google-related processes running in the background 24/7. I can disable most of Huawei's app services whenever I want, including their App Store, HiCare, HiSearch and their other apps quickly and easily. Yes, even though the battery capacity is only 4200mAh, Huawei has great RAM management and it's not as bloated anymore with other unwanted apps (at least the global version is pretty clean).

I have both the S20U and P40P, i have to say the Huawei is the better device hardware/software wise i u set it up properly HMS/GMS/ICE BOX. I previously had a P30P and i loved it thought i would go Samsung but honestly they are not top of the crop even if the price is.
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I'm really into the Hardware and aesthetic of the phone, and I think the P40 Pro is the best on the market in that aspect. It really feels premium and worth the price. It's the perfect size and weight and the materials are top notch. The Samsungs S20's just don't feel their price which is the first thing that lets it down to me (the Note 10's were much better in that respect).
If you have some patience and are good with technology and can side load GMS on the P40 Pro I'd definitely recommend it. It's the first phone out of the recent flagships that I want to keep for the next 12 months.
Another option I'd suggest is the Oppo Find X2 Pro. ColourOS I actually find I prefer to Oxygen OS. The camera is excellent and the phone feels and looks quality.

Thanks good to hear , yes had p40 lite briefly had issues getting GMS working on that but alot of the vids aimed at the p40 pro gave up with it in the end , hope to have more success with p40 pro just to be on safe side and to get my Google fix I've also ordered a oneplus 8 12GB green so will have the best of both worlds preferred it over the pro having the p40 pro as main camera phone dont see the point in getting another pro as well Roll on Monday and good buy Ultra [emoji3]
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