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Thinking about trading my S6 Edge for a Ascend Mate 7

I'm deciding if I should make the trade. The main reason is the battery. I found the S6 Edge battery is not enough for me (getting 3 SOT max and it does not last more than 10 hours). So I want to install a Stock ROM on it (is it possible?) and have "infinite" battery life with a good phone.
Any feedbacks on this decision?

Go for P8 Max. It also has 6inch screen, 4000mAh and 16mp camera. The specs are better than Mate 7.
I admit Mate 7 is a good phone but why settle for an old model when there is a new one. Plus, P8 Max has a more updated software, and can be upgraded to Marshmallow in the future.
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The only advice I can think of is that if you like custom roms and rooting then you can't go wrong with samsung phones, i had a note 2 for 3 yrs and then got a mate 7 and i am a bit sorry as trying to root the phone has been a nightmare and i am VERY worried about bricking this phone..
the note 2 is ALMOST impossible to brick and the support for samsung is brilliant on this forum where as the mate even after one year is still iffy.
please don't get me wrong the Mate 7 is a fantastic phone but i am still very uncomfortable to root it as there are SO may opinions and different ways ... (

Mine runs rock solid rooted, still on kitkat.
Rooting is the best for it as you can strip out the google bloat from /system/app.
I've kept most of the Huawei extras but the launcher is rubbish and I installed Smart Launcher Pro. I also installed Viper4Android for awesome sound, poweramp for quality music playback UE. For convenience of screen use, kinscreen, and to help the battery and keep data use under control, leandroid. I also flashed in the Xperia kitkat keyboard through CWM and removed google keyboard.
An older version of xposed is installed with some modules.
All up, it runs well, battery lasts well and it's set up to suit me better. The hardware is good for the price. Connectivity is great.
Apart from the poor Huawei launcher, the Huawei software is actually quite good and even has built in tools to manage permission and memory residence.
The launcher is no big deal when you can just install another and set it as default even if not rooted.
Happy I got mine.

Not for the Mate 7. I have had nothing with issues with the screen on mine. Replaced 2 times by service center. There were lines across the screen that were brighter than the rest of the screen. Got the S6 a week ago.

XenSA said:
The only advice I can think of is that if you like custom roms and rooting then you can't go wrong with samsung phones......
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i agree, while i love the build quality of the mate 7 i cant stand the software. i "upgraded" from a nexus 5 and it just isnt the same. if the mate 7 came with a snapdragon soc rather than the huaweis proprietary soc it would truly be the best phone around. i suggest you wait, zte and other Chinese manufactures will be coming out with snapdragon 820 phablets this year.

droidbot1337 said:
i agree, while i love the build quality of the mate 7 i cant stand the software. i "upgraded" from a nexus 5 and it just isnt the same. if the mate 7 came with a snapdragon soc rather than the huaweis proprietary soc it would truly be the best phone around. i suggest you wait, zte and other Chinese manufactures will be coming out with snapdragon 820 phablets this year.
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What do you find so annoying about the software? I quite like the look and feel, very very stable and in my case it has even made up for the urge I normally have to flash roms, simply because there is no need. I appreciate that some may have had issues with the device but I guess you'll find that with every other device on the market.
I've had samsungs for quite a while before switching to the mate 7 and to be honest after so many years I got tired of Touchwiz with degrading performance or a CM alternative with poorer camera quality.
Instead of flashing one ROM after the other I find myself spending more time using the device enjoying its massive 6" screen [emoji1]
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kta said:
What do you find so annoying about the software?........
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i find it annoying that i cant fully control what i do with my phone. on my nexus 5 i was able to do many things that i now see is not possible with my mate7. yes, i as well love the massive screen but after playing with a few nexus 6p's i have become very jealous. this is how the mate 7 should be. all custom ui stuff should be an optional addon "feature". what makes things worse is that companies spend alot of time building this stuff which many often end up not liking.
look at motorola and sony. they have converted to damn near stock android. whatever customization is present fits nicely into aosp android. last night i installed the stock firmware for my mate 7 (B328) and its honestly..... meh! huawei really bastardized what is the best visual android update. they even managed to completely screw up the recent apps view. huawei should really consider this.
for now im just going to get over it and keep using my mate 7 as is. not fully happy but whatever. thankfully there will be a few full metal phablets with snapdragon 820 chips being released this year. i cant wait!

droidbot1337 said:
i find it annoying that i cant fully control what i do with my phone. on my nexus 5 i was able to do many things that i now see is not possible with my mate7. yes, i as well love the massive screen but after playing with a few nexus 6p's i have become very jealous. this is how the mate 7 should be. all custom ui stuff should be an optional addon "feature". what makes things worse is that companies spend alot of time building this stuff which many often end up not liking.
look at motorola and sony. they have converted to damn near stock android. whatever customization is present fits nicely into aosp android. last night i installed the stock firmware for my mate 7 (B328) and its honestly..... meh! huawei really bastardized what is the best visual android update. they even managed to completely screw up the recent apps view. huawei should really consider this.
for now im just going to get over it and keep using my mate 7 as is. not fully happy but whatever. thankfully there will be a few full metal phablets with snapdragon 820 chips being released this year. i cant wait!
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True, the Nexus 6p is very nice with an even better screen, although tiny smaller.
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Just switched my mate 7 out for a Nexus 6p - like many people on this thread while I thought the hardware was great (especially the battery life!), the iffy software and half assed updates got to me in the end (I came to the mate from a Nexus 5).
The 6p is spot on - shows what huawei can do when running Android as its meant to be. Battery life not so good as the mate 7, but plenty good enough. If you are coming from a high end phone like an s6 edge I'd say the 6p would be a better bet. As regards screen size... I'm not really noticing any reduction in what I can see on the 6p, but going down to 5.7 with a slim width does really help with holding the phone one handed.

I sold my note 5 and for the huawei mate 7, it hasn't arrived yet...I paid 250 for it, however I'm a tad concerned now , have I made a unwise decision .I did it so I could give huawei a chance and I'm seeing and hearing negatives.

psn1819 said:
I sold my note 5 and for the huawei mate 7, it hasn't arrived yet...I paid 250 for it, however I'm a tad concerned now , have I made a unwise decision .I did it so I could give huawei a chance and I'm seeing and hearing negatives.
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Well, all phones have their negative sides. I love this phone because of the big screen and long battery life. It has a decent camera. It doesnt lag when playing games.
Give it a chance and I hope you will love this phone too. If ever your Mate 7 still runs on KK just leave it be. Lots of bugs in LP.
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I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol

psn1819 said:
I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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To each his own I guess, but Lollipop is running super stable on my Mate 7.
Custom ROMS are not really an option on this device, there's pretty much no development going on, just have a quick look at the development sub forum and you can easily tell there's not so much going on there.
Make sure that if yo need to upgrade your device try following the official path first, allowing the phone to update itself to LP 5.1.1. If for some reason you don't get the updates just make sure you follow the instructions properly to update with an official ROM from Huawei's website and you should be just fine [emoji6]
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psn1819 said:
I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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I did have lollipop running on mine for a while, and to be fair it was OK. However, it did seem to be missing some things that were included in KK - the carrier aggregation toggle, and after a hard reset it lost the motion control gesture settings etc.
Hence my point about it being glitchy. The other things that I found annoying is the EMUI customization made it difficult to access some of the underlying android screens (such as data usage etc). Also, I found that Google Voice when used in the USA would not dial out with the correct caller ID and number due to Huawei dialer I couldn't change. The other thing is that it is a bit laborious to change ROMs - you've got to download this, incremental update that, flash this to go back to the start etc.....a bit of pain really and one I couldn't really work out why it was necessary - again points to Huawei releasing all sorts of different confusing updates worldwide some of which were not complete.
Don't get me wrong, fundamentally there's nothing wrong with the phone - its just not a good tinkerers phone, nor is is well supported - none of the ported over more 'pure android' roms have yet been able to make the fingerprint sensor operate and can have iffy result with bluetooth etc.

Mate 9 .... Future Development

I love my Nexus 6 but I am having some battery issues, I have always wanted a better camera and I need more storage than the 32gb I currently have.
I have been looking at the Mate 9 since early fall and then somewhat spur of the moment ordered one from Amazon (I get a year to pay for it) yesterday. It should arrive tomorrow. Unfortunately, as I have poured through the Mate 9 forums for the last 24 hrs I have found not much development as I hoped for.
I then looked at the comparable new phone forums like the OnePlus3T and saw a crap load of development.
Input would be greatly appreciated!
What is the likelihood of development being stepped up for the Mate 9 in the coming weeks / months?
Any thoughts from the perspective of buying a OnPlus3T 64gb (twice my current memory) vs staying with the Mate9 (and having almost 200gb right off the bat -- 64gb plus my 128 sd card)?
I guess if the thought is that there is little chance of significantly further development for the Mate 9 I might rather try the alternative.
Thanks!!!!

It's never going to be comparable to the OnePlus, for a start because it's powered by a Kirin SoC which is a brilliant chip in itself but not widely documented.
Doesn't bother me one bit though, the device runs smooth as butter and I stopped tinkering years ago, jailbreaking, rooting, the lot. I'm happy with it as is.
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Governa said:
It's never going to be comparable to the OnePlus, for a start because it's powered by a Kirin SoC which is a brilliant chip in itself but not widely documented.
Doesn't bother me one bit though, the device runs smooth as butter and I stopped tinkering years ago, jailbreaking, rooting, the lot. I'm happy with it as is.
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Exactly as I feel. If you want to have fun modifying your phone, go for the OnePlus, or a Samsung.
If you just want a great phone to use, stick with the Mate 9. You can't do better - at least until this year's new phones come out. And they will have to be brilliant to beat the Mate 9.

Ever since getting the honor note 8. I've been nothing but Huawei/Honor and nothing else. And haven't felt the need to root them.
Honor note 8
Honor 8
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Sure there a few quirks. But def a fresh of new air after living with Samsung and LG and everything else under the sun. Since androids inception. Gone through countless devices since the HTC hero and rooted every single one. Now don't even care anymore cause the crap just works now. Lol.
The mate 9 is a fantastic device that nobody will buy. ( Ie normal people )
What do u need root for. ?

spiritcrusher33 said:
Ever since getting the honor note 8. I've been nothing but Huawei/Honor and nothing else. And haven't felt the need to root them.
Honor note 8
Honor 8
Huawei mate 9
Sure there a few quirks. But def a fresh of new air after living with Samsung and LG and everything else under the sun. Since androids inception. Gone through countless devices since the HTC hero and rooted every single one. Now don't even care anymore cause the crap just works now. Lol.
The mate 9 is a fantastic device that nobody will buy. ( Ie normal people )
What do u need root for. ?
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I guess not so much just needing root ( for things like Titanium Backup [wouldn't even need that if there isn't any ROMs being developed], some Tasker functions, kernel tweaking , to name a few)
Granted I could do without most
BUT ... there are some little things that are made nice with Custom ROMs (esp just a plain ole AOSP ROM or maybe some Lineage based ROMs like Res Remix)
Ultimately though the Mate 9 is really nice ...... now I think I gotta decide whether I wanna keep the Mate 9 with 4gb ROM / 64 gb (and my 128 gb microSD card) ...... OR ........ the Mate 9 Pro with 6gb ROM / 128gb internal (and not use my microSD)
Any thoughts? I've had the Mate 9 for about 36 hrs ,,, get the Pro to try Wed

I'm guessing performance wise the 9 and pro are nearly identical except for the ram difference so I guess it all comes down to screen size. I'm more a the bigger the better kind of guy so I went with the normal mate 9. But since you can get your hands on both, see which size is more fit for you.

Yep, screen size wins it for me. But hey whatever floats your boat.
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Honor 8 a viable choice in 2017?

Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 340 USD and therefore Honor 8 has really caught my eye. I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Honor 8 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? From what I've seen, Huawei still hasn't released sources for Nougat. Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
Thanks in advance.

Hi , i will just speak about question 4 ....
I had iphone7 , Huawei P9, Galaxy s7 and since 2 month : Honor 8
Yes for me you can buy this phone in 2017
It's a very good phone , very fluid, no lags, the phone is not too big , not to small, you can use with one hand . Screen is good , photo too but not like Iphone7 or Galaxy S7 . I am very happy with quick charge . For me the phone is more faster than an Iphone7, or Galaxy S7 . You can personalize like you want , You have a lot of nice themes on XDA or Google+ Emui Community . Sound is good, with headset is not like an Iphone or Galaxy s7 but to listen music is suffisant for me . Voilà, my advice is very good phone, just photo and music with headset can be better but stay ok for daily use .

The device is solid. Runs fast, pretty good specs, and looks nice.
Expect zero updates. Zero custom ROM support, and even rooting is a pain in the butt.
If you're into it for the dev scene, move on. If you want a half decent device for daily use, not bad at all.
Personally I regret buying it because Huawei is terrible at updates and keeping promises.
But as a daily driver device, it's fine.

Don't buy it's an alright phone but no custom ROM support is like a death sentence for a phone. This phone has been out for like 9 months and doesn't have a fully working custom ROM, that right there tells you that this phone has no future. Also who keeps wants to keep a low to mid range phone for 3-4 years? Must be in a 3rd world country!

I am happy with the phone but I'm disappointed with Huawei/Honor when it comes to updates and I am not going to buy more phones from them.
I would get something else right now, it was a good choice when it was released
Next time I will just pay 200 extra euro and get a real phone

Yeah it is a good phone but i am disappointed i expected few roms by now...i wish i could turn time back and go for xiaomi rednote 3 pro

1. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
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It's hassle-free.
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Honor 8 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
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Huawei offer 2 years of updates, but not monthly updates. Taking a look at honor 6 released in august 2014 - it is indeed so. Latest update for honor 6 is september 30th 2016.
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? From what I've seen, Huawei still hasn't released sources for Nougat. Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device?
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No. Don't expect good custom ROM for this device.
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
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I'm pretty satisfied. I enjoy it's dimensions, design, performance and battery life. Games aside, it's faster than any SD820 phone and most SD821 phones (take a look at performance comparison videos on youtube), so it's definitely going to be quick enough for 3-4 years.
If no custom ROM support, lower than SD820 GPU performance and only 2 years of official updates are OK for you (as it is for me) - I definitely recommend it.

Fobos531 said:
Hello.
I'm looking for a new phone, my budget is around 340 USD and therefore Honor 8 has really caught my eye. I'd like to ask a couple questions.
1. Is the bootloader unlock process problematic? Have you faced any issues with it or is it hassle-free? Coming from an LG device, I want to be extra careful with this.
2. I plan to have this device for a longer period of time, around 3-4 years. Is Honor 8 a viable choice, despite the fact that it will soon be a year from the release? Will it be able to hold off for that long, in terms of ROM support and general performance/usage?
3. How do custom ROM development prospects look right now for the device? From what I've seen, Huawei still hasn't released sources for Nougat. Can I expect good custom ROM support from this device?
4. How satisfied are you with your phone? Would you recommend it to me? Are there anything you don't like about the phone?
Thanks in advance.
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You can easily get a code from Huawei to unlock the bootloader, but there's not much point to rooting the phone with development on it pretty nonexistent.
The hardware is really nice. The phone's a great size, the CPU is a beast, the GPU kind of sucks (but that doesn't matter if you're not playing new/demanding games on it like me), but the security updates are TERRIBLE. The most recent software update for the US version of the phone came out in the beginning of January. So we're almost four months into the year and the December 1st security patch is the most recent one available.
If you'd be happy with Nougat 7.0/EMUI 5.0 in a year from now and don't do anything that having security up to date matters it's fine, but otherwise I'd look elsewhere.

Some questions about U12+ before making a switch

I currently own an iPhone X but I feel like iOS 11 is garbage in lots of aspects compared to it's predecessors and also notch is annoying when watching movies.. I've used to own Samsung S/Note phones but I am done with their laggy TouchWiz/Samsung Experience UI. That said, U12+ looks like a phone worth giving a shot. I like to take videos and photos with my phone so camera plays an important role. Is it good? Does it have any major overheating issues? Second thing - how does HTC deal with updates? Can I count on receiving security updates in 1-2 months or they don't really care much? The last thing is battery - I currently get to around 4,5h SoT with my iPhone, any chance HTC performs the same or better? I will be grateful for any responses before I spend my money

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I currently own an iPhone X but I feel like iOS 11 is garbage in lots of aspects compared to it's predecessors and also notch is annoying when watching movies.. I've used to own Samsung S/Note phones but I am done with their laggy TouchWiz/Samsung Experience UI. That said, U12+ looks like a phone worth giving a shot. I like to take videos and photos with my phone so camera plays an important role. Is it good? Does it have any major overheating issues? Second thing - how does HTC deal with updates? Can I count on receiving security updates in 1-2 months or they don't really care much? The last thing is battery - I currently get to around 4,5h SoT with my iPhone, any chance HTC performs the same or better? I will be grateful for any responses before I spend my money
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Let me try to answer some of your questions:
1. Camera: It has the best Camera right after the P20 Pro. So you should be all set here, and gain great results from it.
2. Overheating: It is on the release software 1.15.401.4 getting warmer, but not that hot, from time to time, due to some improvement on clocking of the CPU that are necessary. This has been dealt with and an update is currently starting to roll out and address such issues.
3. Updates: It has been an up and down during the last years to be honest. But HTC finally established so called QMRs (Quaterly Maintenance Releases) for the U12+ as well the U11. As I write the OTA is imminent to roll out to all variants now. The may jump an QMR if there are no security patches by Google that explicitly adress their very devices. To understand the often misguided discussion about that very topic you might make yourself familiar with the Google Security Bulletin, and what it tells you.
4. SoT: I always get 5 - 7h SoT with battery holding up for 24h. I'm quite pleased by those results imho.
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Monnq said:
I currently own an iPhone X but I feel like iOS 11 is garbage in lots of aspects compared to it's predecessors and also notch is annoying when watching movies.. I've used to own Samsung S/Note phones but I am done with their laggy TouchWiz/Samsung Experience UI. That said, U12+ looks like a phone worth giving a shot. I like to take videos and photos with my phone so camera plays an important role. Is it good? Does it have any major overheating issues? Second thing - how does HTC deal with updates? Can I count on receiving security updates in 1-2 months or they don't really care much? The last thing is battery - I currently get to around 4,5h SoT with my iPhone, any chance HTC performs the same or better? I will be grateful for any responses before I spend my money
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Hi!
So I own iPhone X from about 2 months, and I owned iPhone from the first iPhone 2G! ... anyway I don't like anymore iOS , especially the iOS 11
Anyway:
1) HTC u12+ is a fast and fluid phone, I can say that is smoother than iPhone x
2) Photo and Video are better than iPhone x, the autofocus is fast, the colour are correct and the final image is amazing, in many ways better than pixel 2xl that it is a monster camera phone.
3) no major overheating issues.. somethimes under the sun at 35 Celsius can happen a little bit warm but not in a normal day
4) htc is fast to update to every new mayor release of android, until now the secure patch was slow but it seems that is changed now (read up)
5) battery is good but i think will be better with the new upcoming update (and better than iPhone x)
6) I can say only this.. the phone is very good: remember only that is a little bigger than iPhone x, and the screen is more accurate in color than iPhone x but is less brighter so if you work outside all the day maybe is not the best choice for you, if you work in a office or you don't stay all day under the sun is great
ciao !

Get iOS 12 betas a try?
It's been getting some serious good points for a beta compared to iOS 11.
Also if it managed to hold you off until September when it's finalized. The U12 will.be cheaper with HTC discounts or mint condition used phones on resale sites.
By then you'll have more information on the fall phone releases.

imaximuss said:
Hi!
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4) htc is fast to update to every new mayor release of android, until now the secure patch was slow but it seems that is changed now (read up)
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ciao !
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Are you serious!? My U11 Flagship stucks in 2.33.401.10 (what is WWE, not branded) Patch Level 11/2017 Android 8.0. We have 7/2018!
Well, my wife's U11 life get updates because of AndroidOne -today my U12+ 128GB arrived, very disappoited, also no Android One, 8.0 -at least Patchlevel 3/2018. Some Options appear in....don't know! Traditional Chinese? Version is .408., Language is set to German, Google keyboard is NOT adjustable to German. Not the best first impression! :|

Groby said:
Are you serious!? My U11 Flagship stucks in 2.33.401.10 (what is WWE, not branded) Patch Level 11/2017 Android 8.0. We have 7/2018!
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You ever happened to check security with SnoopSnitch, as it would show that the U11 is still secure. And did you ever check the Google Security Bulletin, if there are updates affecting HTC, or if not. This update discussion is absolutely unnecessary, due to the fact that the Patch Level is only half of the truth and information. But nobody cares to take in all information needed. You neither guessing by you post.
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs

Groby said:
Are you serious!? My U11 Flagship stucks in 2.33.401.10 (what is WWE, not branded) Patch Level 11/2017 Android 8.0. We have 7/2018!
Well, my wife's U11 life get updates because of AndroidOne -today my U12+ 128GB arrived, very disappoited, also no Android One, 8.0 -at least Patchlevel 3/2018. Some Options appear in....don't know! Traditional Chinese? Version is .408., Language is set to German, Google keyboard is NOT adjustable to German. Not the best first impression! :|
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he talked about the major android updates and yes, HTC updates phones fast, when switching from let's say nougat to Oreo, or in the case soon from Oreo to P
also from where did you get the device? if it's from EMEA, then it's normal you might face issues with language, since you got a 128gb version, which is not available in Germany

Groby said:
Are you serious!? My U11 Flagship stucks in 2.33.401.10 (what is WWE, not branded) Patch Level 11/2017 Android 8.0. We have 7/2018!
Well, my wife's U11 life get updates because of AndroidOne -today my U12+ 128GB arrived, very disappoited, also no Android One, 8.0 -at least Patchlevel 3/2018. Some Options appear in....don't know! Traditional Chinese? Version is .408., Language is set to German, Google keyboard is NOT adjustable to German. Not the best first impression! :|
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You have bought an imported Taiwan version, It's not an HTC fault but yours. Same argument for Android One, as we replied on your thread

5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Let me try to answer some of your questions:
1. Camera: It has the best Camera right after the P20 Pro. So you should be all set here, and gain great results from it.
2. Overheating: It is on the release software 1.15.401.4 getting warmer, but not that hot, from time to time, due to some improvement on clocking of the CPU that are necessary. This has been dealt with and an update is currently starting to roll out and address such issues.
3. Updates: It has been an up and down during the last years to be honest. But HTC finally established so called QMRs (Quaterly Maintenance Releases) for the U12+ as well the U11. As I write the OTA is imminent to roll out to all variants now. The may jump an QMR if there are no security patches by Google that explicitly adress their very devices. To understand the often misguided discussion about that very topic you might make yourself familiar with the Google Security Bulletin, and what it tells you.
4. SoT: I always get 5 - 7h SoT with battery holding up for 24h. I'm quite pleased by those results imho.
Sent from my HTC U12+ using XDA Labs
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How are you able to get 5 - 7hrs SoT? I only get 4 - 5hrs daily.

enyaj said:
How are you able to get 5 - 7hrs SoT? I only get 4 - 5hrs daily.
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Take a look at my thread about SoT. There's not just me getting those numbers. Here's my personal stats. I even get it, using a lot of power hungry apps:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/u1...12-ime-battery-life-sot-t3797865/post76977119
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Razorbacktrack5535 said:
You have bought an imported Taiwan version, It's not an HTC fault but yours. Same argument for Android One, as we replied on your thread
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I really feel a litte bit like an beta tester -normaly Android is spread in all languages, and (as I'm an IT guy) I kow that there are compairing tools -is somethig have an gap -you will noticed.
And I really like HTC -I buy it since 2002 -16 Years! At least2 device, for me and my wife, additional for work and employees -let's say roundabout 4 devices at 16 years -that will be 64 at a minimum -plus all I have to support from my family and fried which I have recommended to friend and customer. Round it up to 150, beginning from Typhoo, Feeler and the whole spectrum.
It makes a litle bit sad if you always try to buy Flagships and waiting for updates. My Samsung A5, a really low cost Device says in weeks, not moths, there are Updates. :|
And as I'm IT Professional -better then Antivirus and other just cobble things which are just follow vulnerabiles is to get a Patch for it. I have the problem that I get annoyed fram Ads -and I just have some Apps installen, no games, no bull**** -mostly buyed full versions. And "tap and hold" to see which process the Ad cause doe not work -they find a new way to cover it. :/
Patches really elp, in special he great december Update from Android AFAIR...
Is it really to much to expect to get more then one or two updates after paying 700+ Euro, and can read all menue?

p20 pro overrated?

Hello.
I've had this phone for 6 weeks now and I must admit that when I got it I had very high expectations.
All the reviews made this phone look like the best phone, both performance wise and camera wise.
Now, I can't really complain but I must admit that it's overrated: the camera quality is great but I don't think the phone deserves the "Best smartphone camera" title simply because some pictures lack detail/when you zoom in on a normal picture it's always slightly blurry (something I noticed in every Huawei phone).
Performance wise I can't really complain, the phone is smooooth!
And before you say anything, yes, I've used every camera mode and messed around with all the settings (pro mode/raw is very useful).
Last but not least, it seems like not a lot of people own this phone? The forums seem a bit quiet.

MrGiovanni said:
Hello.
The forums seem a bit quiet.
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Yep, development is pretty dead since Huawei stopped unlocking bootloaders and the average cost is now £30 to unlock it. There is also a lot of controversy around the kernel released to the public and the actual one used by the company. They are not a good company.
For me, the phone was a mistake, I should have stayed with OnePlus and their open approach to developers and users.

maddoguk said:
Yep, development is pretty dead since Huawei stopped unlocking bootloaders and the average cost is now £30 to unlock it. There is also a lot of controversy around the kernel released to the public and the actual one used by the company. They are not a good company.
For me, the phone was a mistake, I should have stayed with OnePlus and their open approach to developers and users.
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I wholeheartedly agree and I wish I checked better before getting it - especially since I'm paying it monthly (I mean, it's €15 a month but still).

maddoguk said:
Yep, development is pretty dead since Huawei stopped unlocking bootloaders and the average cost is now £30 to unlock it.
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It's a factor indeed but I don't think this is the only explanation for lack pf development. Every phone that hasn't been officially released in US has much worse development section. Moreover xda development used tp be a lot better in the past in general. My old HTC legend didn't have unlocked bootloader,. no soff possibility either.. Still we got fully worked cyanogenmod 7. Just an example.
Today only few devices can be really proud of its development section = Oneplus, pixel, pocophone, maybe htc (du to soff) For me personally neither of them is the option. Pixel is overpriced and offers only 4gb of ram. Pocophone lacks nfc anf its camera is mediocre. Oneplus lacks support for usb otg, notification/charging led, no video output, has mono farting speaker, worse camera than P20 Pro. P20 pro has its flaws indeed but for me it was still te best option in the August 2018. Today i'd probably choose sth else.

Add me to the list. The camera is awesome but the rest is pretty average. It also doesn't feel special to look at or hold and this is where other manufacturers like Samsung/Apple/Sony shine.
This is my first phone away from Samsung and I don't know how Huawei have managed to fool everyone into thinking this is more than a mid range phone with a decent camera setup.

Yes, I agree. Camera is great, battery is good but i think rest is awful. I cant even play Pubg on high settings. A lot of apps too laggy.
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I think everything is pretty good... Except kirin 970.

I think it is a decent Phone with a fantastic camera. I think there's no doubt about the camera quality especially in comparison to other phone models available.
But I can't comment on development issues, that's where the expert can evaluate its worth better.

erdignss said:
Yes, I agree. Camera is great, battery is good but i think rest is awful. I cant even play Pubg on high settings. A lot of apps too laggy.
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am quite surprise that you had problem with PUBG,
What firmware version are you on ? Is it got GPU Turbo enabled already ?

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I think everything is pretty good... Except kirin 970.
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Yeah the Mali inside it is a turd (even on the 980) and the frequency of updates stink.
Every Month the P20 Pro is dropping in price by £50 and judging by how the Chinese are flooding the market with newer phones it will be sub 200 by the middle of next Year. Oh and I would be pizzed if I had paid It's launch price of £799 for it to be worth £200 a year later.

Coming from iPhone X and pixel 2, I also feel cheated by reviewers. Its front camera is terrible and my phone is too laggy even with nova launcher and emui 9

tenchu_712 said:
Coming from iPhone X and pixel 2, I also feel cheated by reviewers. Its front camera is terrible and my phone is too laggy even with nova launcher and emui 9
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EMUI is unfortunately choppy UI.
I hope AOSP will get stable soon.

Phone on paper isn't bad, I was worried about the chipset but it's been decent. Ppsspp runs perfectly, GameCube / dolphin runs perfectly which is no mean feat.
Development is odd, but not totally dead, plus you can flash treble and honor view 10 ROMs.
I'm currently on AOSIP and it's stupidly smooth,, EMUI is horrific IMHO.
Now root is available on pie so things will certainly pick up.
Personally wouldn't buy it now but it's not a bad phone overall and development hopefully will pick up.

I bought this phone on a upgrade from the s8 plus on the basis of the camera. Never used emui before and never owned a Huawei before. The camera(S) have earned me some money so I cannot complain. To get the best out of it you have to know its limitations. As a phone in general, I wasn't assed about the chipset. It does a great job. My phone is very responsive, but does have a random pause once in the blue moon. It runs everything without a hiccup and I am very happy with it still. I am in no rush to upgrade, but when I do, I'm goin.. Goin.. Back.. Back.. To.. Sammie.. Sammie..
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I don't agree.
The camera is awesome. EMUI is nothing bad, I would never buy an aosp phone without for example the desktop mode.
Updates are coming fast.
Unlocking bootloader is the only problem, I personally don't care, but I know that this is a real problem.
My next phone will be huawei.

I'm very satisfied with the P20 Pro. The battery is awesome, the design is great, no lag at all, I don't have any problem with Emui. And most important, I know the limitations of a mobile camera.
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forever_lol said:
EMUI is unfortunately choppy UI.
I hope AOSP will get stable soon.
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Check out AOSIP for the Honor view 10. Works on the p20 pro.
NFC and stereo are the only two things not working.
The treble p20 camera in the treble forum works with gallery, the speed is sublime.
I can't go back to emui now.

dladz said:
Check out AOSIP for the Honor view 10. Works on the p20 pro.
NFC and stereo are the only two things not working.
The treble p20 camera in the treble forum works with gallery, the speed is sublime.
I can't go back to emui now.
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its kind a pitty about NFC
i need it in my country for easier highway payment

After pie update, phone becomes worse..

otonieru said:
am quite surprise that you had problem with PUBG,
What firmware version are you on ? Is it got GPU Turbo enabled already ?
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I am on 161 now. It s disabled but does it really matter? It shouldnt be laggy anyways.
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