p20 pro overrated? - Huawei P20 Pro Guides, News, & Discussion

Hello.
I've had this phone for 6 weeks now and I must admit that when I got it I had very high expectations.
All the reviews made this phone look like the best phone, both performance wise and camera wise.
Now, I can't really complain but I must admit that it's overrated: the camera quality is great but I don't think the phone deserves the "Best smartphone camera" title simply because some pictures lack detail/when you zoom in on a normal picture it's always slightly blurry (something I noticed in every Huawei phone).
Performance wise I can't really complain, the phone is smooooth!
And before you say anything, yes, I've used every camera mode and messed around with all the settings (pro mode/raw is very useful).
Last but not least, it seems like not a lot of people own this phone? The forums seem a bit quiet.

MrGiovanni said:
Hello.
The forums seem a bit quiet.
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Yep, development is pretty dead since Huawei stopped unlocking bootloaders and the average cost is now £30 to unlock it. There is also a lot of controversy around the kernel released to the public and the actual one used by the company. They are not a good company.
For me, the phone was a mistake, I should have stayed with OnePlus and their open approach to developers and users.

maddoguk said:
Yep, development is pretty dead since Huawei stopped unlocking bootloaders and the average cost is now £30 to unlock it. There is also a lot of controversy around the kernel released to the public and the actual one used by the company. They are not a good company.
For me, the phone was a mistake, I should have stayed with OnePlus and their open approach to developers and users.
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I wholeheartedly agree and I wish I checked better before getting it - especially since I'm paying it monthly (I mean, it's €15 a month but still).

maddoguk said:
Yep, development is pretty dead since Huawei stopped unlocking bootloaders and the average cost is now £30 to unlock it.
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It's a factor indeed but I don't think this is the only explanation for lack pf development. Every phone that hasn't been officially released in US has much worse development section. Moreover xda development used tp be a lot better in the past in general. My old HTC legend didn't have unlocked bootloader,. no soff possibility either.. Still we got fully worked cyanogenmod 7. Just an example.
Today only few devices can be really proud of its development section = Oneplus, pixel, pocophone, maybe htc (du to soff) For me personally neither of them is the option. Pixel is overpriced and offers only 4gb of ram. Pocophone lacks nfc anf its camera is mediocre. Oneplus lacks support for usb otg, notification/charging led, no video output, has mono farting speaker, worse camera than P20 Pro. P20 pro has its flaws indeed but for me it was still te best option in the August 2018. Today i'd probably choose sth else.

Add me to the list. The camera is awesome but the rest is pretty average. It also doesn't feel special to look at or hold and this is where other manufacturers like Samsung/Apple/Sony shine.
This is my first phone away from Samsung and I don't know how Huawei have managed to fool everyone into thinking this is more than a mid range phone with a decent camera setup.

Yes, I agree. Camera is great, battery is good but i think rest is awful. I cant even play Pubg on high settings. A lot of apps too laggy.
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I think everything is pretty good... Except kirin 970.

I think it is a decent Phone with a fantastic camera. I think there's no doubt about the camera quality especially in comparison to other phone models available.
But I can't comment on development issues, that's where the expert can evaluate its worth better.

erdignss said:
Yes, I agree. Camera is great, battery is good but i think rest is awful. I cant even play Pubg on high settings. A lot of apps too laggy.
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am quite surprise that you had problem with PUBG,
What firmware version are you on ? Is it got GPU Turbo enabled already ?

forever_lol said:
I think everything is pretty good... Except kirin 970.
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Yeah the Mali inside it is a turd (even on the 980) and the frequency of updates stink.
Every Month the P20 Pro is dropping in price by £50 and judging by how the Chinese are flooding the market with newer phones it will be sub 200 by the middle of next Year. Oh and I would be pizzed if I had paid It's launch price of £799 for it to be worth £200 a year later.

Coming from iPhone X and pixel 2, I also feel cheated by reviewers. Its front camera is terrible and my phone is too laggy even with nova launcher and emui 9

tenchu_712 said:
Coming from iPhone X and pixel 2, I also feel cheated by reviewers. Its front camera is terrible and my phone is too laggy even with nova launcher and emui 9
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EMUI is unfortunately choppy UI.
I hope AOSP will get stable soon.

Phone on paper isn't bad, I was worried about the chipset but it's been decent. Ppsspp runs perfectly, GameCube / dolphin runs perfectly which is no mean feat.
Development is odd, but not totally dead, plus you can flash treble and honor view 10 ROMs.
I'm currently on AOSIP and it's stupidly smooth,, EMUI is horrific IMHO.
Now root is available on pie so things will certainly pick up.
Personally wouldn't buy it now but it's not a bad phone overall and development hopefully will pick up.

I bought this phone on a upgrade from the s8 plus on the basis of the camera. Never used emui before and never owned a Huawei before. The camera(S) have earned me some money so I cannot complain. To get the best out of it you have to know its limitations. As a phone in general, I wasn't assed about the chipset. It does a great job. My phone is very responsive, but does have a random pause once in the blue moon. It runs everything without a hiccup and I am very happy with it still. I am in no rush to upgrade, but when I do, I'm goin.. Goin.. Back.. Back.. To.. Sammie.. Sammie..
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I don't agree.
The camera is awesome. EMUI is nothing bad, I would never buy an aosp phone without for example the desktop mode.
Updates are coming fast.
Unlocking bootloader is the only problem, I personally don't care, but I know that this is a real problem.
My next phone will be huawei.

I'm very satisfied with the P20 Pro. The battery is awesome, the design is great, no lag at all, I don't have any problem with Emui. And most important, I know the limitations of a mobile camera.
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forever_lol said:
EMUI is unfortunately choppy UI.
I hope AOSP will get stable soon.
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Check out AOSIP for the Honor view 10. Works on the p20 pro.
NFC and stereo are the only two things not working.
The treble p20 camera in the treble forum works with gallery, the speed is sublime.
I can't go back to emui now.

dladz said:
Check out AOSIP for the Honor view 10. Works on the p20 pro.
NFC and stereo are the only two things not working.
The treble p20 camera in the treble forum works with gallery, the speed is sublime.
I can't go back to emui now.
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its kind a pitty about NFC
i need it in my country for easier highway payment

After pie update, phone becomes worse..

otonieru said:
am quite surprise that you had problem with PUBG,
What firmware version are you on ? Is it got GPU Turbo enabled already ?
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I am on 161 now. It s disabled but does it really matter? It shouldnt be laggy anyways.
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Thinking about trading my S6 Edge for a Ascend Mate 7

I'm deciding if I should make the trade. The main reason is the battery. I found the S6 Edge battery is not enough for me (getting 3 SOT max and it does not last more than 10 hours). So I want to install a Stock ROM on it (is it possible?) and have "infinite" battery life with a good phone.
Any feedbacks on this decision?
Go for P8 Max. It also has 6inch screen, 4000mAh and 16mp camera. The specs are better than Mate 7.
I admit Mate 7 is a good phone but why settle for an old model when there is a new one. Plus, P8 Max has a more updated software, and can be upgraded to Marshmallow in the future.
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The only advice I can think of is that if you like custom roms and rooting then you can't go wrong with samsung phones, i had a note 2 for 3 yrs and then got a mate 7 and i am a bit sorry as trying to root the phone has been a nightmare and i am VERY worried about bricking this phone..
the note 2 is ALMOST impossible to brick and the support for samsung is brilliant on this forum where as the mate even after one year is still iffy.
please don't get me wrong the Mate 7 is a fantastic phone but i am still very uncomfortable to root it as there are SO may opinions and different ways ... (
Mine runs rock solid rooted, still on kitkat.
Rooting is the best for it as you can strip out the google bloat from /system/app.
I've kept most of the Huawei extras but the launcher is rubbish and I installed Smart Launcher Pro. I also installed Viper4Android for awesome sound, poweramp for quality music playback UE. For convenience of screen use, kinscreen, and to help the battery and keep data use under control, leandroid. I also flashed in the Xperia kitkat keyboard through CWM and removed google keyboard.
An older version of xposed is installed with some modules.
All up, it runs well, battery lasts well and it's set up to suit me better. The hardware is good for the price. Connectivity is great.
Apart from the poor Huawei launcher, the Huawei software is actually quite good and even has built in tools to manage permission and memory residence.
The launcher is no big deal when you can just install another and set it as default even if not rooted.
Happy I got mine.
Not for the Mate 7. I have had nothing with issues with the screen on mine. Replaced 2 times by service center. There were lines across the screen that were brighter than the rest of the screen. Got the S6 a week ago.
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The only advice I can think of is that if you like custom roms and rooting then you can't go wrong with samsung phones......
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i agree, while i love the build quality of the mate 7 i cant stand the software. i "upgraded" from a nexus 5 and it just isnt the same. if the mate 7 came with a snapdragon soc rather than the huaweis proprietary soc it would truly be the best phone around. i suggest you wait, zte and other Chinese manufactures will be coming out with snapdragon 820 phablets this year.
droidbot1337 said:
i agree, while i love the build quality of the mate 7 i cant stand the software. i "upgraded" from a nexus 5 and it just isnt the same. if the mate 7 came with a snapdragon soc rather than the huaweis proprietary soc it would truly be the best phone around. i suggest you wait, zte and other Chinese manufactures will be coming out with snapdragon 820 phablets this year.
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What do you find so annoying about the software? I quite like the look and feel, very very stable and in my case it has even made up for the urge I normally have to flash roms, simply because there is no need. I appreciate that some may have had issues with the device but I guess you'll find that with every other device on the market.
I've had samsungs for quite a while before switching to the mate 7 and to be honest after so many years I got tired of Touchwiz with degrading performance or a CM alternative with poorer camera quality.
Instead of flashing one ROM after the other I find myself spending more time using the device enjoying its massive 6" screen [emoji1]
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kta said:
What do you find so annoying about the software?........
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i find it annoying that i cant fully control what i do with my phone. on my nexus 5 i was able to do many things that i now see is not possible with my mate7. yes, i as well love the massive screen but after playing with a few nexus 6p's i have become very jealous. this is how the mate 7 should be. all custom ui stuff should be an optional addon "feature". what makes things worse is that companies spend alot of time building this stuff which many often end up not liking.
look at motorola and sony. they have converted to damn near stock android. whatever customization is present fits nicely into aosp android. last night i installed the stock firmware for my mate 7 (B328) and its honestly..... meh! huawei really bastardized what is the best visual android update. they even managed to completely screw up the recent apps view. huawei should really consider this.
for now im just going to get over it and keep using my mate 7 as is. not fully happy but whatever. thankfully there will be a few full metal phablets with snapdragon 820 chips being released this year. i cant wait!
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i find it annoying that i cant fully control what i do with my phone. on my nexus 5 i was able to do many things that i now see is not possible with my mate7. yes, i as well love the massive screen but after playing with a few nexus 6p's i have become very jealous. this is how the mate 7 should be. all custom ui stuff should be an optional addon "feature". what makes things worse is that companies spend alot of time building this stuff which many often end up not liking.
look at motorola and sony. they have converted to damn near stock android. whatever customization is present fits nicely into aosp android. last night i installed the stock firmware for my mate 7 (B328) and its honestly..... meh! huawei really bastardized what is the best visual android update. they even managed to completely screw up the recent apps view. huawei should really consider this.
for now im just going to get over it and keep using my mate 7 as is. not fully happy but whatever. thankfully there will be a few full metal phablets with snapdragon 820 chips being released this year. i cant wait!
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True, the Nexus 6p is very nice with an even better screen, although tiny smaller.
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Just switched my mate 7 out for a Nexus 6p - like many people on this thread while I thought the hardware was great (especially the battery life!), the iffy software and half assed updates got to me in the end (I came to the mate from a Nexus 5).
The 6p is spot on - shows what huawei can do when running Android as its meant to be. Battery life not so good as the mate 7, but plenty good enough. If you are coming from a high end phone like an s6 edge I'd say the 6p would be a better bet. As regards screen size... I'm not really noticing any reduction in what I can see on the 6p, but going down to 5.7 with a slim width does really help with holding the phone one handed.
I sold my note 5 and for the huawei mate 7, it hasn't arrived yet...I paid 250 for it, however I'm a tad concerned now , have I made a unwise decision .I did it so I could give huawei a chance and I'm seeing and hearing negatives.
psn1819 said:
I sold my note 5 and for the huawei mate 7, it hasn't arrived yet...I paid 250 for it, however I'm a tad concerned now , have I made a unwise decision .I did it so I could give huawei a chance and I'm seeing and hearing negatives.
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Well, all phones have their negative sides. I love this phone because of the big screen and long battery life. It has a decent camera. It doesnt lag when playing games.
Give it a chance and I hope you will love this phone too. If ever your Mate 7 still runs on KK just leave it be. Lots of bugs in LP.
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I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
psn1819 said:
I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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To each his own I guess, but Lollipop is running super stable on my Mate 7.
Custom ROMS are not really an option on this device, there's pretty much no development going on, just have a quick look at the development sub forum and you can easily tell there's not so much going on there.
Make sure that if yo need to upgrade your device try following the official path first, allowing the phone to update itself to LP 5.1.1. If for some reason you don't get the updates just make sure you follow the instructions properly to update with an official ROM from Huawei's website and you should be just fine [emoji6]
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psn1819 said:
I'm confused ...is the stock lollipop rom buggy ...how can that be lol? Did I jump the gun a bit selling the note 5? Are they're any stable cutom roms you could recommend. I just want it to last me a while and be a wise investment is all...I'm usually fine but this will be my first huawei anything and now a bit ehh lol
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I did have lollipop running on mine for a while, and to be fair it was OK. However, it did seem to be missing some things that were included in KK - the carrier aggregation toggle, and after a hard reset it lost the motion control gesture settings etc.
Hence my point about it being glitchy. The other things that I found annoying is the EMUI customization made it difficult to access some of the underlying android screens (such as data usage etc). Also, I found that Google Voice when used in the USA would not dial out with the correct caller ID and number due to Huawei dialer I couldn't change. The other thing is that it is a bit laborious to change ROMs - you've got to download this, incremental update that, flash this to go back to the start etc.....a bit of pain really and one I couldn't really work out why it was necessary - again points to Huawei releasing all sorts of different confusing updates worldwide some of which were not complete.
Don't get me wrong, fundamentally there's nothing wrong with the phone - its just not a good tinkerers phone, nor is is well supported - none of the ported over more 'pure android' roms have yet been able to make the fingerprint sensor operate and can have iffy result with bluetooth etc.

Low activity for the X play

While I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive I'm wondering why the dev community for the X play is so small. The LG G4 also suffers from this problem. Coming from a nexus device this is new for me. Maybe someone might have an answer for me. Too new phone? no code from motorola to work on Marshmallow builds? Unattractive phone? Everyone waiting for the MM code drops?
I'm happy there are devs at all, you're the reason I decided for the phone, so keep up the good work
Benjamin_L said:
While I'm still waiting for my phone to arrive I'm wondering why the dev community for the X play is so small. The LG G4 also suffers from this problem. Coming from a nexus device this is new for me. Maybe someone might have an answer for me. Too new phone? no code from motorola to work on Marshmallow builds? Unattractive phone? Everyone waiting for the MM code drops?
I'm happy there are devs at all, you're the reason I decided for the phone, so keep up the good work
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Nexus as everyone knows has a huge fan following. This particular device hasn't much fan following. The stock firmware is already out. Unattractive I won't say.
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The more owners any given model has, the more likely it is that there are programmers among them capable of android development. Then there's the question of how much of the drivers/firmware is available as open source or compatible third-party stuff. Finally, there's the question of how much the phone actually benefits from custom anything.
Currently, i am on a stock ROM stock kernel with xposed and gravitybox and i currently have no open wishes ... except maybe the LED notification light, that would only work with a custom kernel.
X play is great, even with stock
@AtomicStryker I totally agree. Stock 6.0 is fast and smooth. Really not missing the bugs or broken features of the latest CM versions
Get a themeable launcher, like Slim launcher form Xda, root for adaway or netguard if you don't root, and basically you're done ! Enjoy.
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@AtomicStryker I totally agree. Stock 6.0 is fast and smooth. Really not missing the bugs or broken features of the latest CM versions
Get a themeable launcher, like Slim launcher form Xda, root for adaway or netguard if you don't root, and basically you're done ! Enjoy.
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For systemwide themes, layers is there and everything is settled.
Even the sound performance on earphones is so good, no need of any sound mods. ?
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I'm waiting on my phone too, but the community will hopefully pick up as more dev teams get their hands on the device and whatnot. Things should gain traction after the overall international release of Marshmallow on this device is done, I'd say. Fingers crossed.
That's true. I was using xiaomi mi3 . great hardware for its price. But hated to use KitKat forever. It has got great developers .
But once I lost the mobile I got mxp. Honestly it's got very less support at the moment. I expected lot of activity.
I used to have so many notifications in xda when I was using mi3
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Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
MrBelter said:
Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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Having recently ordered this phone to replace my N5, this is reassuring to hear.
MrBelter said:
Best thing i did was go from the Nexus 5 to the MXP. The N5 needed all the dev work to be usable where as the MXP is great out of the box.
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The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
fingerprinted said:
The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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I do agree with you on the superior performance of the N5 compared to the MXP. But let's focus on the important things, do we want to charge our smartphone everytime at the end of the day?
This is one of the reasons I moved from my beloved N5 to this new phone. Regularly, I use my smartphone for IM, browsing and e-mail. Do I need to have the best performance ? Certainly not.
More important is to have a phone that brings a battery endurance that lasts up to 2 days. The N5 in my 2 years of usage was like driving a ferrari. Unprecedented performance but an appalling operating range (battery life), charging the phone twice a day was nothing special.
As for the dev activity. The nexus community is unmatched when it comes to this. It can certainly be better but we have xposed framework + gravity box and also an unoffical cm13 build that looks promising to reach official status soon.
Cheers,
Ynternet
fingerprinted said:
The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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No Nexus phone offers Bluetooth aptX or µSD card support, the bright screen of the MXP is excellent in itself, the front facing speaker is loud etc.
fingerprinted said:
The battery life and the camera are the only noticeable upgrades of the Moto x play, but performance wise, the nexus 5 is superior.
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Patience friend, Marshmallow is coming.
Joining the family soon.. To be precise Tomorrow.
I wouldn't compare Motorola's phones to Nexus line at all. Dev's love Nexuses, they always did. Sure, Moto's look kinda similar, being so close to stock and all, but it's not actually stock android right? You can kinda see the dev scene picking up slowly and I think it's only going to get better once MM is available worldwide.
On a side note, it's nice to see I wasn't the only one coming from Nexus 5 to MXP. Turns out there are plenty of people willing to trade off some pure benchmark performance for actual quality-of-life improvements, like battery and screen.
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My previous phone was a nexus 5 also, roll on MM.

Thinking of getting honor 8

I'm a big phone junkie. Would like to try various phones. Used bb10 for a long time and since then I've tried many android phones before settling down on the new BlackBerry dtek50. Big fan of BlackBerry android features such as hub, productivity tab, swipe up short cuts etc.
Is it worth getting the honor 8 in my case? Not a big gamer - heavy business's user with phone, email, text and browsing. I'll probably miss the BlackBerry features a lot. But reviews for this phone is pretty good. Would u guys recommend this?
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Go to best buy if you can and try one out. The UI is not the best the phone hardware is amazing though...
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Jesushasadroid said:
Go to best buy if you can and try one out. The UI is not the best the phone hardware is amazing though...
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I would love to. But I'm in canada and no one carries this phone for a demo.
The emui 5 update is supposed to be a lot better than the current one. Not sure whether i can update the honor8 with that yet. The websites say its available only for UK users.
It will update on Honor 8 at some point
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I'm a big phone junkie. Would like to try various phones. Used bb10 for a long time and since then I've tried many android phones before settling down on the new BlackBerry dtek50. Big fan of BlackBerry android features such as hub, productivity tab, swipe up short cuts etc.
Is it worth getting the honor 8 in my case? Not a big gamer - heavy business's user with phone, email, text and browsing. I'll probably miss the BlackBerry features a lot. But reviews for this phone is pretty good. Would u guys recommend this?
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If you have High priority for your camera, then you can go for Honor 8. Else OP3T will be good.
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If you have High priority for your camera, then you can go for Honor 8. Else OP3T will be good.
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Im not a big fan of big phones. 5.5" is too big for me. Max is 5.2-5.3"
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I am going from a Nexus 6p to this phone. After it updates with the latest FW its actually not a bad device. A lot of reviewers highlight problems that are now fixed such as the backlight and a few interface glitches. The audio is not as good as my 6p headphone wise but it is live withable. I am thinking if I root it and see if viper audio loads it may fix that issue. The fingerprint reader works faster then on my n6p however it does have to be more on the reader (my 6p would unlock if I had half my finger on the sensor) but also acts as a button and swipe commands.
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Im not a big fan of big phones. 5.5" is too big for me. Max is 5.2-5.3"
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Oh... Then Honor 8 is the right one.
vhl71 said:
I would love to. But I'm in canada and no one carries this phone for a demo.
The emui 5 update is supposed to be a lot better than the current one. Not sure whether i can update the honor8 with that yet. The websites say its available only for UK users.
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This is purely speculation, but I'd guess they'll roll out EMUI 5/Nougat for everyone in a month or two. The US closed beta has already started and I really like the changes. There's one going on in India and China as well.
My biggest reservation when picking up the phone a little under two months ago was the software. Reviews made EMUI 4.1 sound like the worst thing ever. I wasn't a huge fan of the task switcher which scrolls horizontally and shows the recently run apps as unstacked screenshots with a tendency (for me at least) to overscroll when I just wanted to move one to the left or right, but it worked well enough. The notification shade is also split between a left tab with notifications and a right tab with settings. You can swipe left or right on the opened shade to go between the two and there's an option to pick which you want to access by which side of the top of the screen you swipe down from. But I have tiny, Trump-like hands, so I use the swipe down on the fingerprint sensor to access it usually. Accessing it that way will open it to the left tab with notifications if you have any currently, but defaults to the right quick toggle options for WiFi, NFC, flashlight/torch, etc if you do not. I don't think it was the best way to set that up, but I pretty quickly got used to it.
You also have to manually whitelist apps you want to have continue running when the screen is turned off and enable notifications to show up on the lock screen. The average person might have trouble with this, but I'd think most people reading this forum either figured it out for themselves or you can just post here and ask how to do it (there's already a couple threads on it).
If you do pick up an Honor 8 I'd recommend a case and screen protector as I find it rather slippery without one.
As was previously suggested I'd try the phone out in Best Buy and see if you like it. Now's a good time to buy one if you do as there's a bunch of sales going on. Overall, I really like the phone and the EMUI 5 update has made it even better.
vhl71 said:
I would love to. But I'm in canada and no one carries this phone for a demo.
The emui 5 update is supposed to be a lot better than the current one. Not sure whether i can update the honor8 with that yet. The websites say its available only for UK users.
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emui5 does look promising
Agree with the UI not being the best but the software is amazing, the screen is sharp and the dual cameras are superb. EMUI's gestures are really useful too.

How's the performance after a year?

Guys I'm considering buying the Honor 8 and want to know how it performs daily after months of usage. Any lagging/stuttering/slow downs?
Reviewers say the phone is fast and but I remember them saying that about Honor 5X too...but it was laggy and slow from day one and only custom roms made it a little bit better for some time, until they too began to lag and be slow in general use.
I've heard that Honor 8 doesn't let you use all 4GB of RAM (somewhere on reddit) and that's got me concerned too.
Please share your long-term experiences with this phone and help me out. Thanks!!
hsanjay19 said:
Guys I'm considering buying the Honor 8 and want to know how it performs daily after months of usage. Any lagging/stuttering/slow downs?
Reviewers say the phone is fast and but I remember them saying that about Honor 5X too...but it was laggy and slow from day one and only custom roms made it a little bit better for some time, until they too began to lag and be slow in general use.
I've heard that Honor 8 doesn't let you use all 4GB of RAM (somewhere on reddit) and that's got me concerned too.
Please share your long-term experiences with this phone and help me out. Thanks!!
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Don't know about the ram because it wasn't needed yet.
( I usually only use around 2 gigs).
Got mine in January and other than the battery degrading maybe a little it's still snappy as ever.
But forget custom roms entirely for now and software updates are painfully slow. Oreo is still questionable atm so theres that. And don't get the 64gb models. It seems the update situation is way worse there.
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SharxX8 said:
Don't know about the ram because it wasn't needed yet.
( I usually only use around 2 gigs).
Got mine in January and other than the battery degrading maybe a little it's still snappy as ever.
But forget custom roms entirely for now and software updates are painfully slow. Oreo is still questionable atm so theres that. And don't get the 64gb models. It seems the update situation is way worse there.
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Thanks! Notice any bugs after the stable Nougat update?
Personally, no. However depending on the model that may vary. But I'm sure you can find that around here
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Have it 9 months, did all the updates, everything works just fine.
Battery was a little better before Android N but still, i can't complain (1.5-2 days with a full charge).
Games, apps, cam, everything works just fine. Its my everyday tool for everything.
About the RAM question, never had an issue.
I bought it 2 weeks back, and it's an excellent device for the price, maybe the best bang for the buck at the moment in India atleast. The software is very very stable and there are no hiccups whatsoever. The ram management can be a bit agressive at times but I doubt you will notice it if you don't play 3 games simultaneously. The only little gripe I personally have is the lack lusture development community. Just know, if you buy it there is no guarantee for Oreo, if you don't care about that, it's almost perfect.
I have been using it for about a year now. Really didn't feel the difference to Day 1. The battery life is better on EMUI 5.1 than the original EMUI 4. Performance is stable and consistent so far.
L04, US model.
This device after almost year of use is still in perfect condition. Personally I rolled back to Marshmallow, as I can use kingroot to temporary enhance or remove system apps, etc. The ? well if used not for gaming or any other constant video watching it can last all day. I wouldn't get to exited if you are heavy gamer, because next generation games might run on lower settings then other flagship phones.
CaLthulhas said:
This device after almost year of use is still in perfect condition. Personally I rolled back to Marshmallow, as I can use kingroot to temporary enhance or remove system apps, etc. The well if used not for gaming or any other constant video watching it can last all day. I wouldn't get to exited if you are heavy gamer, because next generation games might run on lower settings then other flagship phones.
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how u use kingroot
Tomar777 said:
Have it 9 months, did all the updates, everything works just fine.
Battery was a little better before Android N but still, i can't complain (1.5-2 days with a full charge).
Games, apps, cam, everything works just fine. Its my everyday tool for everything.
About the RAM question, never had an issue.
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Thanks! What's your model number?
hsanjay19 said:
Thanks! What's your model number?
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FRD- L09

Mate 9 and custom Roms?

I was thinking of getting Mate 9, and i just noticed that there are not much development of custom roms like other devices such as LG and samsung, is there a reason or just the mate series not getting much attention?
Shady282 said:
I was thinking of getting Mate 9, and i just noticed that there are not much development of custom roms like other devices such as LG and samsung, is there a reason or just the mate series not getting much attention?
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First and second both.
Reason - You can build working boot from kernel sources. But camera will not work.
And Mate 9 has not much developers.
But in defense of phone I can say that it is great device. We are able to root and Magisk, install every stock ROM, rebrand between localizations, use Xposed. Stock ROMs are good, quick and have many useful functions.
5[Strogino] said:
First and second both.
Reason - You can build working boot from kernel sources. But camera will not work.
And Mate 9 has not much developers.
But in defense of phone I can say that it is great device. We are able to root and Magisk, install every stock ROM, rebrand between localizations, use Xposed. Stock ROMs are good, quick and have many useful functions.
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Oh thank you for your reply. :good:
can please explain what does the "rebrand between localizations" means? because i ve been reading it everywhere but not able to understand what does it mean and its purpose? and does that void warranty?
Also, someone told me on a forum that if you bought huawei from a specific region like Europe and you are using it outside of europe, as in not european simcard, you will not receive updates ? only until you use a sim related to where you bought the phone from? is this related to the "rebrand between localizations" ?
You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
sutty86 said:
You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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Absolutely fantastic battery life and fast phone! ?
grinch247 said:
Absolutely fantastic battery life and fast phone!
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+1 Great phone! I am running stock longer than any rom in 10 years! Think about all the things you can do in your life without constantly tinkering with a phone :laugh:
Shady282 said:
Oh thank you for your reply. :good:
can please explain what does the "rebrand between localizations" means? because i ve been reading it everywhere but not able to understand what does it mean and its purpose? and does that void warranty?
Also, someone told me on a forum that if you bought huawei from a specific region like Europe and you are using it outside of europe, as in not european simcard, you will not receive updates ? only until you use a sim related to where you bought the phone from? is this related to the "rebrand between localizations" ?
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Rebrand between localizations means that you are able to buy Chinese model MHA-AL00 with Chinese ROM and rebrand to world ROM and vice versa.
Models are same by hardware.
About sim and updates - yeah, problem still exists. To get updates quickly after they released need phone with proper region/localization and proper sim.
So, I live in Russia and have Russian operator's sim. I bought European Mate 9 cause Huawei doesn't sell Mate's series in Russia (Russia is C10 in Huawei customization). My chances to get update on my MHA-L29C432 faster than European owners are very small. Fortunately, it is not problem to me.
P.s. I told that chances are small but they are not null. Huawei rolls on some ROMs to all after some time (about month)
sutty86 said:
You are correct there is a few variants, Chinese normally get update faster believe it's running beta 8.0 atm
I have had many flagships in past 5 years, all oneplus, s7, s8, LG g5, 6p,
Pixel is my backup phone.
If you can get the mate 9 at a good price I swapped mine for an iPhone 7, as don't like Apple and prefer big screens.
It's a cracking phone.
The os is on par with oxygen imo.
Screen is great 1080p,
Battery life is exceptional 7hours sot out and about.
Rooted and using magisk for Android pay.
Ohhh and has stereo speakers
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Oh but a lot of users reported that huawei does not have a good customer support in case of issues with the phone and such. is it true?
What about updates? do you expect getting oero and so on OS ? since there are not a lot of custom roms?
tho i didn't like the fact the regional update lock based on the sim card region you are using.
but i love the good SOT.

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